Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Stefan Beller wrote: > So this is really bikeshedding at its finest. You don't seem to understand what is bikeshedding. The reason a bikeshed is used as reference is because the primary function of a bikeshed is to store bikes, and therefore the color of the bikeshed doesn't really matter. A logo

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > The motion is about this: > > Outside people, like the party who approached us about putting > our logo on their trinket, seem to associate that logo we see on > git-scm.com today with our project, but we never officially said >

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

So this is really bikeshedding at its finest. I'd personally do agree on the logo proposed in the first mail by Junio. However who is the core community, who am I to judge? So maybe the decision process on this issue may need a more centrally steered opinion, so why not call for votes and weight

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

I think it is a suitable logo. It might not be the one I would think of, but I see with good eyes using it as one of the project logos. Javier Domingo Cansino -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Jeff King wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 08:24:48AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > > I would actually like you (everyone) to be honest and answer this > > question; > > > > Have you actually analized the logo? Or are you just arguing against > > change, because the logo is already used by g

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 08:24:48AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > I would actually like you (everyone) to be honest and answer this > question; > > Have you actually analized the logo? Or are you just arguing against > change, because the logo is already used by git-scm.com, and related > stuff

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:25:17PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > The mention of "dev.git-scm.com" gives me a mixed feeling. The > chasm between the developer community and casual end-users who know > about Git primarily via their perusal of git-scm.com is one of the > root causes of this confusi

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On 04/11/2014 09:25 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > [...] > The motion is about this: > > Outside people, like the party who approached us about putting > our logo on their trinket, seem to associate that logo we see on > git-scm.com today with our project, but we never officially said >

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Junio: On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > The pages at https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page are > done primarily by developers, and between the two logos on that > page, the one that appears inside the page under "Main Page" header > has long been the logo that Gi

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Max Horn wrote: > On 11.04.2014, at 20:56, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Max Horn wrote: > >> Come back when you have facts, as opposed to the illusion that you are the > >> spokesperson of the (apparently silent) majority of Git users. > > > > Facts: > > > > 1) A hunk that removed (-) is represen

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Please help us by letting us answer "Yup, that is a logo (among > others) that represents our project, and we are OK with you > using it to help promote our project" instead. > > That is what I meant by "our official logo" in t

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Junio C Hamano wrote: > In any case, this motion is not about "let's declare the logo we see > on git-scm.com today as _the_ official one". Phew. :) [...] > Please help us by letting us answer "Yup, that is a logo (among > others) that represents our project, and we are OK with you >

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Jeff King writes: > The git-scm.com page is mostly targeted at end users: what is it, how do > I get it, where is the documentation. Things like a logo repository, or > developer information is spread across various wikis and other sites. > If there's interest, we can make "dev.git-scm.com" for s

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On 11.04.2014, at 20:56, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Max Horn wrote: >> On 11.04.2014, at 17:21, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> Max Horn wrote: On 11.04.2014, at 15:29, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Max Horn wrote: > > You don't think red represent an oldness in Git? Whereas gre

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Max Horn wrote: > On 11.04.2014, at 17:21, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Max Horn wrote: > >> On 11.04.2014, at 15:29, Felipe Contreras > >> wrote: > >>> Max Horn wrote: > >>> > >>> You don't think red represent an oldness in Git? Whereas green > >>> represents progress? > >> > >> No, I don't th

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

> On 11.04.2014, at 17:21, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Max Horn wrote: >> On 11.04.2014, at 15:29, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> Max Horn wrote: >>> >>> You don't think red represent an oldness in Git? Whereas green >>> represents progress? >> >> No, I don't think that. > > Then you belong to t

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On 11.04.2014, at 17:39, Philippe Vaucher wrote: >>> You don't think red represent an oldness in Git? Whereas green >>> represents progress? >> >> No, I don't think that. >> >> Perhaps you think that, but if that is the case, it is based on your own >> sociocultural background. Hey, and let's

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Holger Hellmuth wrote: > Am 11.04.2014 17:39, schrieb Philippe Vaucher: > >FWIW, I think if you made a poll and asked which color is the most > >"positive" between green and red, the vast majority of people would > >say "green". Examples could be traffic green lights vs red lights, or > > Coca-Col

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Karsten Blees writes: > Additionally, orange/red alerts and attracts the eye while green is > calming, uninteresting. Imagine a page with five different SCM > logos. If you want git to stand out, choose orange/red. If you want > git to be overlooked choose green. How about using the "blink" attr

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Am 09.04.2014 18:43, schrieb Felipe Contreras: > Junio C Hamano wrote: >> - To officially adopt the logo that appears on the "project >>home page" as our "project logo". > > I have made my objections to that logo before, but here it goes again: bright > red is a horrible color for a logo, as

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On 2014-04-11 13:32, Javier Domingo Cansino wrote: > I have never thought on that logo as the Git logo (the red one), and > thought it was [1]. Mainly because the logo itself has git inside. > [1] Git logo: > http://git-osx-installer.googlecode.com/files/GitLogo.jpg -- Like Javier, I too assumed

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Am 11.04.2014 17:39, schrieb Philippe Vaucher: FWIW, I think if you made a poll and asked which color is the most "positive" between green and red, the vast majority of people would say "green". Examples could be traffic green lights vs red lights, or Coca-Cola uses red. So red is refreshing an

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On 04/09/2014 06:43 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Junio C Hamano wrote: >> - To officially adopt the logo that appears on the "project >>home page" as our "project logo". > > I have made my objections to that logo before, but here it goes again: bright > red is a horrible color for a logo, as

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

> FWIW, I think if you made a poll and asked which color is the most > "positive" between green and red, the vast majority of people would > say "green". Examples could be traffic green lights vs red lights, or > that in nature quiet & peaceful usually involves green while > danger/action involves

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> > You don't think red represent an oldness in Git? Whereas green > > represents progress? > > No, I don't think that. > > Perhaps you think that, but if that is the case, it is based on your own > sociocultural background. Hey, and let's not forget that supposedly 8% or so > of all males are re

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Felipe Contreras > wrote: > > > > Moreover, even the black ones have the issue I already mentioned; they > > picture the equivalent of two root commits (with no parents) that are > > immediately merged, and the history continues, but

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Max Horn wrote: > On 11.04.2014, at 15:29, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Max Horn wrote: > > > > You don't think red represent an oldness in Git? Whereas green > > represents progress? > > No, I don't think that. Then you belong to the minority of Git users. Those of us that see patches day and n

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On 11.04.2014, at 15:29, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Max Horn wrote: >> As for the logo, I think it's nice and simple, > > You don't think red represent an oldness in Git? Whereas green > represents progress? No, I don't think that. Perhaps you think that, but if that is the case, it is based o

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Moreover, even the black ones have the issue I already mentioned; they > picture the equivalent of two root commits (with no parents) that are > immediately merged, and the history continues, but who is interested in > the initial commit

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Felipe Contreras writes: > Secondly, the logos that are not black, are bright red, which is > horrible; not only do they look bad in almost every situation due to the > contrast, but in a Git's mindeset red implies old, a minus, the hunk > removed, an error, which is not good. Actually, the best

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Max Horn wrote: > As for the logo, I think it's nice and simple, You don't think red represent an oldness in Git? Whereas green represents progress? > and based on experience I think that for every logo you'll find people > who object to it. So we should just accept any logo without thinking abo

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Jeff King wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:24:24AM +1000, Andrew Ardill wrote: > > > It's normal for an organisation to have a collection of logos to > > choose from, with one 'official' version. For example, a black and > > white version is useful for print. Similarly, it's useful to have a >

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

My two cents: I like git-scm.com quite a bit. As for the logo, I think it's nice and simple, and based on experience I think that for every logo you'll find people who object to it. E.g. the red color of the log on git-scm.com looks great to me, while I dislike e.g. the color variation Felipe is

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:24:24AM +1000, Andrew Ardill wrote: > It's normal for an organisation to have a collection of logos to > choose from, with one 'official' version. For example, a black and > white version is useful for print. Similarly, it's useful to have a > couple of different contras

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

I have never thought on that logo as the Git logo (the red one), and thought it was [1]. Mainly because the logo itself has git inside. I have to agree with David Kastrup on that I see no connection to git only by the image (red one). Maybe is because I am accustomed to the older one[1] I started

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Andrew Ardill writes: > I think it is fair to say that the red version is the one people > recognise as 'git' and so should be kept as the official version. Who is "people"? I never associated anything with it. I had to look at the actual web page to see what people are talking about. It's fa

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

On 10 April 2014 02:43, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Junio C Hamano wrote: > > - To officially adopt the logo that appears on the "project > >home page" as our "project logo". > > I have made my objections to that logo before, but here it goes again: bright > red is a horrible color for a logo,

RE: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Junio C Hamano wrote: > - To officially adopt the logo that appears on the "project >home page" as our "project logo". I have made my objections to that logo before, but here it goes again: bright red is a horrible color for a logo, as it only looks good in limited situations. I propose you u

Re: Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Junio C Hamano writes: > - To officially adopt "git-scm.com " (and >"git-scm.org ") as our "project home >page"; and > > - To officially adopt the logo that appears on the "project >home page" as our "project logo". For those like me who wond

Our official home page and logo for the Git project

Recently, somebody approached Software Freedom Conservancy, wishing to obtain our blessing for using the Git logo on some trinket they are planning to make. We joined Conservancy earlier, primarily so that we have a legal entity that can receive and pool the GSoC mentor stipend, and because we are