geting.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Matt
>
> From: Mike or Penny Novack<mailto:stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com>
> Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018 3:12 AM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets
&g
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To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets
On 2/4/2018 1:21 AM, Christopher Lam wrote:
> Looks nice. My main concern with these "shadow accounts" is that they will,
> by default, be counted in the Net worth repor
On 2/4/2018 1:21 AM, Christopher Lam wrote:
Looks nice. My main concern with these "shadow accounts" is that they will,
by default, be counted in the Net worth reports, income reports, etc, and
must be manually deselected every time.
In my view budget allocations are technically "outside the boo
We're getting into nebulous, philosophical territory, but I'll take you up on
your position.
By putting cash into an envelope, it's allocated and is now an obligation. If
you have made the decision to abide by the purpose of allocating monies to
envelopes, then you understand that the cash you
If the money is physically divided into envelopes, or left in some bank account
and ‘segregated in place’ then it IS an asset.
If this allocation is merely virtual and has no relationship to where it
actually exists, then it isn’t ANY of the top level accounts, certainly NOT a
liability. You do
*Sunday, 4 February 2018 11:39 AM *To: *gnucash-
> u...@gnucash.org *Subject: *Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets>
> Sorry for the delayed response, just managing to catch up on
> this thread.
>
> I've been looking at how to do envelope-style budgeting for my
> personal
I understand your concern, but I don't think that would be the
case here.
They may be included in the net worth but because all entries net to
zero they are balanced and they have no net effect on net worth.
The issue I've seen with previous proposals both here and in the
mentioned blog post is tha
Looks nice. My main concern with these "shadow accounts" is that they will,
by default, be counted in the Net worth reports, income reports, etc, and
must be manually deselected every time.
In my view budget allocations are technically "outside the books" and must
therefore ideally be recorded in
<mailto:ebrid...@eqbridges.com>
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018 11:39 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets
Sorry for the delayed response, just managing to catch up on this thread.
I've been looking at how to
Sorry for the delayed response, just managing to catch up on this thread.
I've been looking at how to do envelope-style budgeting for my personal
finances using GnuCash for about 6-7 months. Like you, this began with this
article from 2008 "[Better Budgeting with
GnuCash"](http://allmybrain.com/2
From: David T.
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018 2:31 PM
To: matt_graham2...@hotmail.com;Adrien Monteleone; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: RE: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
Matt,
I see one huge problem: where are you balancing the funds for the allocated
12:11 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
Thanks for the run down Matt,
I wouldn’t say “stupid” at all, but certainly, that method is extra work. And I
don’t really see the benefit that ma
:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>;
gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: RE: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
Matt,
I see one huge problem: where are you balancing the funds for the allocated
accounts? They need balancing, and once you add s
Matt,
I see one huge problem: where are you balancing the funds for the allocated
accounts? They need balancing, and once you add something to balance them, you
might as well male them Subaccounts of checking anyway.
Cheers,David
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:06, Matt Graham
[Snip]If, rathe
omes a simple
> Cr Checking:Dining $20
> Dr Expenses:Dining $20
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Matt
>
> From: Adrien Monteleone <mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2018 6:45 PM
> To: gnucash-user@g
ilto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
Matt,
You lost me again.
I don’t understand why you’d have a negative 'segmented spending money' asset.
You receive a paycheck, say $1000.
You earmark 50% of that into various sub-a
derspending means the money is available for later.
>
> Am I understanding you right?
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Matt
>
>
> ---- Original message ----
> From: Mike or Penny Novack
> Date: 30/1/18 09:31 (GMT+10:00)
> To: Matt Graham
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnuc
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Original message
From: Mike or Penny Novack
Date: 30/1/18 09:31 (GMT+10:00)
To: Matt Graham
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
On 1/28/2018 8:11 PM, Matt Graham wrote:
When you look at what liabilities
On 1/28/2018 8:11 PM, Matt Graham wrote:
When you look at what liabilities really are, Adrien and I
concluded on this thread that this situation (segmenting money for
future) is really using a separate asset account. After all - creating
a liability INCREASES your cash available. .
w it
goes.
Thanks again everyone,
Matt
Original message
From: Adrien Monteleone
Date: 29/1/18 15:22 (GMT+10:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
Matt,
What Mike was talking about with Liabilities was with respect t
Hmmm now that I re-read your email, I think you might have meant this
> already. Sorry!
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Matt
>
>
> Original message
> From: Adrien Monteleone <mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
> Date: 28/1/18 15:33 (GMT+10:0
;
> Thanks and regards,
> Matt
> Original message
> From: Mike or Penny Novack
> Date: 29/1/18 00:51 (GMT+10:00)
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
>
> On 1/27/2018 10:25 PM, Matt Grah
1/18 15:33 (GMT+10:00)
To: GNU Cash User
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
You can already use formulas in scheduled transactions, I just don’t think you
can use a present GC register value as a variable. (such as x% of the balance
of Assets:Checking) I could be wr
think I'll type all this up
with some examples (it is easier to show with exampes).
Thanks and regards,
Matt
Original message
From: Mike or Penny Novack
Date: 29/1/18 00:51 (GMT+10:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Bu
t; Thanks again - greatly appreciate your time,
> Matt
>
>
> Original message
> From: Adrien Monteleone
> Date: 27/1/18 18:15 (GMT+10:00)
> To: GNU Cash User
> Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
>
> That’s an int
On 1/27/2018 10:25 PM, Matt Graham wrote:
Nice! It seems like we are getting somewhere. I am convinced that the process
we think of budgeting where we are saving up for something is really a case of
segmenting money within a sub-account. And it looks like Gnucash is already
happy with this kin
MT+10:00)
To: GNU Cash User
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
That’s an interesting use of future dated transactions. Thanks!
Regards,
Adrien
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:
>
> I was following the budget discussion, and I deci
Monteleone <mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
> Date: 27/1/18 18:15 (GMT+10:00)
> To: GNU Cash User <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
> Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
>
> That’s an interesting use of future dated transactions. T
teleone
Date: 27/1/18 18:15 (GMT+10:00)
To: GNU Cash User
Subject: Re: Subaccounts [WAS Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets]
That’s an interesting use of future dated transactions. Thanks!
Regards,
Adrien
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:
>
> I was following the b
That’s an interesting use of future dated transactions. Thanks!
Regards,
Adrien
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:
>
> I was following the budget discussion, and I decided to split my comment
> into a different thread. I'm not responding to any particular comment, and
> this
I was following the budget discussion, and I decided to split my comment
into a different thread. I'm not responding to any particular comment, and
this isn't quite germane to budgeting.
But I want to clear up a few misunderstandings I'm seeing folks express
about reconciling with sub-accounts. Su
If they are allocations from the parent then the parent should have the
reversing entry already and it should wash.
The only issue would be if you transfer from say Checking to a sub of Savings.
Regards,
Adrien
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 5:47 AM, Maf. King wrote:
>
> On Friday, 26 January
ncrease (dr) in the specific
>>> “Allocated Assets”:”Spending Money” account.
>>> Spending is the same as above, but the increase to make “Money Allocated”
>>> less negative is balanced by the decrease in the relevant Allocated assets
>>> account
>>>
&g
Hi Matt
I think there is merit in your idea.
I think some of the logic has already been baked into the Scheduled
Transactions (SX) facility.
So far, we know the transactions in the database are perfect for recording
*past* activity. Sometimes I'll also record transactions in the future e.g.
for upc
On Friday, 26 January 2018 11:34:52 GMT David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> Adrien,
>
> A small point: there is an option on the reconcile window to include
> subaccounts, so that should not pose a problem.
>
> David
>
David,
I too thought about that option, but also considered that the transac
? Would need both aspects – viewing “how
>> much I have left” to spend for that purpose (budget line item?), but also
>> ensuring “I have the money in my accounts to be able to buy it”. That all
>> sounds too complicated – it would be easier to allow the user to tag an
>> e
.. Same conclusion as before – I’m going to try it out for a while
> before suggesting any program changes...
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Matt
>
> From: Adrien Monteleone
> Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 4:32 PM
> To: GNU Cash User
> Subject: Re: Future allocated m
PM
To: GNU Cash User<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Future allocated money vs Budgets
Here’s my attempt to save you a few months…
I think you’re spinning wheels into something more complicated than it needs to
be.
For starters, there’s no reason any liability account or exp
Here’s my attempt to save you a few months…
I think you’re spinning wheels into something more complicated than it needs to
be.
For starters, there’s no reason any liability account or expense account should
enter the picture of ‘saving’ for any particular purpose. ‘Spending Money’
savings is
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