nd the program is GPL.
[1]: http://haskell.org/cpphs/
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Andrew Coppin writes:
> Is there a reason why a new precompiled binary can't be put up for
> download?
I would assume because no-one has supplied one (Duncan doesn't use
Windows; don't know about the rest of the cabal-install developers).
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[1] http://github.com/jgm/illuminate
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Vasyl Pasternak writes:
> Could anyone tell me what is going on, and how to declare SomeMonad as
> instance of Applicative ?
You can't, because you can't define new instances for type aliases. If
you really want SomeMonad to have a custom instance, define it as a
newtype.
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bleInstances, FlexibleContexts, EmptyDataDecls, ScopedTypeVariables,
> TypeOperators, TypeSynonymInstances #-}
You sure you have enough language extensions there? ;-)
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boblettoj writes:
> shuffle i cards = do
> gen <- mkStdGen 10
> return ([(cards!!i) : (shuffle (randomR (0, ((length cards)-2)) gen)
> (delete (cards!!i) cards))])
Thta last line doesn't make sense; should it be on the line above?
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l, why are you using a do block?
Secondly, mkStdGen :: Int -> StdGen : you need to provide it with a
number and it doesn't return a monadic value, so you can't use <- with
it.
Thirdly, have a look at randoms and randomRs.
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OK, I thought you were doing something with random ordering of lists
(note that if you want to shuffle some lists, there is a package on
Hackage that implements Oleg's perfect shuffling function).
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Integer deriving (Eq, Ord)
>
> and
> import Data.Ratio
> newtype Fixed e = F Rational deriving (Eq, Ord, Enum, Real, RealFrac)
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We will shortly be adding an extended version of the "Who" table; please
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ked at the package.) Providing a
ByteString version as well might be a viable option; replacing the
current one is quite likely not.
> My question or discussion point: Why not depreciate [Char] altogether
> and favour of lazy Bytestrings?
I believe I've answered this abov
Don Stewart writes:
> The beta of the 2010.2.0.0 release is now up, which is based on GHC
> 6.12.
Hang on, you just announced 2010.1.0.0... have you suddenly released
_another_ major version? :p
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Foo instantiates a typeclass Baz, then you can derive
Baz for newtype Bar = Bar Foo.
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) Use the text package for I/O (and set an encoding)
3) GHC 6.12.1 uses the system's locale for encoding; as such if your
system normally lets you see accented characters then putStrLn,
etc. will print them out.
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7;old' version (2009.2.0.2) which contains ghc 6.10
The windows version hasn't been finalised yet. See
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/libraries/2010-March/013299.html for a
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> In the expression: ((>>=) . f) 1 (\ f x -> f x) 2
> In the definition of `it': it = ((>>=) . f) 1 (\ f x -> f x) 2
>
Some definitions and exports got changed, so in 6.12 the (-> a) Monad
instance is exported whereas in 6.10 it isn'
David Menendez writes:
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
> wrote:
>> Some definitions and exports got changed, so in 6.12 the (-> a) Monad
>> instance is exported whereas in 6.10 it isn't.
>
> What? From where?
>
> I thought the wh
zaxis writes:
>>>Why do you bother with the interior definition of f in there?
> Because i want to try a C code style not layout style without `do` syntax
> sugar .
Haskell /= C, so stop trying to code as if it is. If you like C so
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ckages on Hackage. It might be worth looking into.
We may not have as many packages as Arch (because we don't just churn
them willy-nilly) but Gentoo has a fair number of up-to-date Haskell
packages in its overlay.
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's too "boring" and depressing with all that grayscale. Why
not use the coloured version of the logo (
http://haskell.org/sitewiki/images/a/a8/Haskell-logo-60.png ) and base
the colour scheme off that?
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gt;
> Any thoughts on how to best present this?
A list of package names with links to the specific version on Hackage
(and maybe a short description of what they are)?
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want to use, and that makes cabal
> unhappy.
Better (well, OK, maybe not _better_ per se but relevant) question: why
isn't QuickCheck usage optional in so many of these libraries? There
should be no reason for most people to build the testing functions,
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> Ubuntu (10.4) doesn't seem to? Is this an omission?
Hasn't been ported yet IIRC.
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lleviated (through the use of testing, creating
installers, etc.). The same goes with Mac OSX.
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IRC, it doesn't really have many graph operations defined there.)
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ed as an Int _are_ stored as an Int (IIUC anyway); however
computable reals are almost always inefficient.
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n what it prints and parses is consistent: I
don't expect a user to bother running it (and would question why anyone
would). How does the inclusion of a "test" option to Cabal allow any
substantial benefits to developers over building the package with a
build-time f
quot;
would require using something like the GHC API, which immediately
reduces the "niceness" and portability of such a tool/library.
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> Well, you can 'script' GHC:
[snip]
> To at least get the fully qualified types exported from a module.
Which increases the portability _how_ precisely? :p
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Don Stewart writes:
> Portability? You already have GHC on the machine, right? You don't
> necessarily need the GHC API to get something prototyped quickly.
I meant in the sense of writing this as a tool, which will also work if
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> a different version of the Cabal library than what cabal-install uses.
My understanding is that Setup.hs will use whatever libraries you
already have installed; cabal-install will use the latest allowable
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anonymous in these kinds of situations,
but in terms of submitting open source software? Unless their employer
is worried about them releasing proprietary software on Hackage, I don't
see the potential for embarrasment there.
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Joe Fredette writes:
> You guys don't _really_ think my name is Joe Fredette, right?
>
> I'm actually Batman.
Batman, Joe, whatever your name is...
I notice that the HWN has turned into the Haskell
Whenever-I-can-be-bothered-getting-around-to-it News... >_>
Joe Fredette writes:
> Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered
> and more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN
> should be back shortly.
Hang on, I thought your name was Batman, not Joe...
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"well, why not?" has been Ross (and I hope
> I dealt with the flaky arguments he linked to in my reply).
And yet at times (and I would think that this is one of those times)
"well, why not?" _can_ be a valid argument. I am frankly amazed that
"why should I use my real
h this is to do with
the inconsistency you mention above).
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Miguel Mitrofanov writes:
> Out of curiosity: is there something wrong with my nickname "migmit"?
How it was derived is at least apparent, as opposed to nicknames that
have nothing to do with people's real names.
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t) rather than against...
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Thomas Schilling writes:
> Another attempt: http://i.imgur.com/ENvl7.png
I like the layout, but hate the colour scheme.
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I have a Symbian phone, so I can probably help you out there.
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upon it with another version of GHC (since the package manager _knows_
that the dependency is installed, yet GHC is vehement that it knows
nothing about it).
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Tomas Janousek writes:
> (Who's supposed to send it to vim maintainer? Me, or cafe?)
You. It's your patch/fix, and it's a bit difficult to ascertain which
part of the amorphous mass that is haskell-cafe is meant to be doing
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> Cabal is far superior to all of them 8-)
Except for the fact that you can't uninstall, check for
non-Haskell-library dependencies, etc. ...
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Jason Dusek writes:
> A new release of JSONb, taking advantage of the latest Attoparsec.
>
> http://hackage.haskell.org/package/JSONb-1.0.0
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ptions don't appeal to me as being excessive usage of
boilerplate; the third involves too much code duplication. However, I
am loath to just go and disable a warning globally.
What does the Haskell community think? Is -fwarn-unused-do-bind a
worthwhile warning (and code should be updat
l haskell
> definitions on the haddock page, and then hide most of them by default under
> an expander of some sort.
Rather than, you know, providing the maintainer with a patch with some
improved documentation?
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ng to get a darcs repo?
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it irritating...
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kages! [y/n]"
Which, in its own way, means that cabal-install is still phoning home;
you then even need network access if you're building packages that
you've already downloaded the sources for.
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v]
>
> Please report this as a GHC bug: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/reportabug
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You didn't make such a restriction; you wanted it for _all_ function types.
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Short version: using something like mapM but disregarding the result
(rather than using mapM_) can sometimes lead to space leaks.
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http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/options-phases.html
(Note: I don't know how authorative/complete that list is.)
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Looks built to me...
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uot;other-module",
> then "cabal install" happily builds and installs (!) the package anyway,
> but I'm getting linker errors when using it.
Interesting; it normally complains when this occurs (for me at least);
care to share the .cabal file to see which fi
Sean Leather writes:
> Hmm, now it does. Apparently, the server saw my email and responded
> nicely.
Well, it takes half an hour or so...
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> I believe that's longer than 30 minutes.
Interesting maybe there was some error on Hackage that stopped the
builder from working...
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doesn't this do what I think it should"? None of its definitions seem
to match what you mean:
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=moral
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x.h which should probably be included and used on
Windows.
> As far as I know Haskell Platform uses MinGW and it includes
> regex-posix.
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ays reinstall all the dependencies on every change.
>> It doesn't seem to see that they're already installed.
>
> Can we have more details, please?
>
> As a first idea, you might try
>
> ghc-pkg unregister offending-package
>
Stefan Holdermans writes:
> Irrefutable pattern? ;-)
Ahhh, yes, that's it. I knew it started with `i', but that's about it...
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> From: thebenmach...@googlemail.com [mailto:thebenmach...@googlemail.com] On
> Behalf Of Ben Millwood
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 20:57
> To: Phyx
> Cc: Ivan Lazar Miljenovic; haskell-cafe@haskell.org
> Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] ghc package problem
>
> On Fri
en upon a time machine, we here
at Humorix (and, indeed, the whole world) implore you to travel back to
1100, track down a law teacher called Irnerius, and prevent him from
founding his school using whatever means necessary. Your contribution to
humanity will truly make the world (in an alternate
nce
other applications would probably want to keep using /tmp for TMPDIR.
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thinks that all the libraries i removed are still there. how
> can i fix this?
Cabal uses the ghc-pkg "database" to know which libraries are installed.
If you want to wipe everything and start afresh, then delete the ~/.ghc
directory (assuming you did per-user installs).
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Erlend Hamberg writes:
> On Sunday 18. April 2010 00.49.28 Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
>> Except I think Chris wants to be able to specify a directory, since
>> other applications would probably want to keep using /tmp for TMPDIR.
>
> alias cabal="TMPDIR=/foo cabal&q
t;
I wonder, could you have gone straight from 6.8.3 to 6.12.1 (or if not
that, since 6.10.1 built then presumably 6.10.4 probably would have as
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Daniel Fischer writes:
> Wow. Makes me wonder what quicksilver says about IncoherentInstances.
Not quicksilver, but according to lambdabot:
@quote incoherent
sproingie says: * enables IncoherentInstances and ends up
with Sarah Palin in his living room
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ehow the same thing or where is it hidden/what am i
> overlooking?
There is as yet no release of gtk2hs that works with GHC 6.12.1.
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most "newer" languages have
the same name as their defacto implementation (Python [though the
implementation is technically CPython], Perl, Ruby, etc.).
Whilst Haskell has other implementations apart from GHC, none of the
others are as featureful, etc. So pretty much if you want "
n I build the project without the "-prof -auto-all", the project
> compiles without any error or warning. I build GHC (6.10.4) from
> source, without changing any build option.
This has nothing to do with GHC.
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perfect. The
fact that we encourage smaller, more modular libraries over large
monolithic ones also affects this.
When considering Haskell vs Python, I wonder if the "stability" of
Python's libraries is due to their relative maturity in that the
"fundamental" libraries
g the package.
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; Prelude System.Process> runCommand "echo привет"
> ?...@825b
Are you arguing about IO-specific stuff like this, or for all non-ASCII
Strings?
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there are some projects which generally _are_
buildable/usable for their repositories (e.g. XMonad and
XMonad-Contrib). But these are large multi-person projects with moving
targets; the stuff i write is being developed by myself only.
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Gwern Branwen writes:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
> wrote:
>> 2) Not all head repositories are kept stable/buildable at all times.
>
> Perfect, meet better. Wait, no no - aw goddammit Perfect! Why do you
> do this every single time? *You* get
sions to be bumped
> whenever those change (sufficiently)?
I don't get this; just because someone changes a unit test (because they
thought of a new case, etc.) they should bump the package version even
if all the changes were internal and not exported?
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Roman Leshchinskiy writes:
> On 24/04/2010, at 18:06, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
>> I would think that the API is all the
>> functions/classes/datatypes/instances/etc. exported from the library in
>> combination with their types.
>
> So the semantics of those func
s, etc. how
would you go about automating the test for detecting if the "intention"
of a function changes in this manner?
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Even if we could get around this, there remains another problem:
automatically generating the kind of input each function expects (how do
you encode pre-conditions automatically for such a tool to pick up?
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everal times. However, this is causing problems with building haddock
documentation: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/ticket/656
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good idea; at a guess I would think that it hasn't already
because if the semantics of a function change then in most cases
developers would either change the function name or its type at the same
time and so this situation hasn't arisen too many times (John's example
to the
but we could bump the version
> number as it would require little work.
I would argue that it would involve bumping a minor version number, not
a major version number (which indicates an API change) since it's just a
bug fix.
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Ross Paterson writes:
> Same major version: any code using fully explicit imports that worked
> with the old version will work with the new version, in the same way.
By this you mean that additions have been made?
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t; interested in taking over the maintenance and future development.
>
> Anybody interested?
I'm willing to help out.
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I can't take over FGL fully though, as I've got a huge backlog of other
project I want to work on (then again, I guess everyone does... >_> ).
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rk?) or can you use a pre-defined function?
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raphs that are
simple, or maybe multiple edges are fine. Even when considering
Arbitrary instances for something like String you may wish to have a
custom variant that makes sense for what you're testing.
My conclusion: it is not possible to have hard-and-fast conclusions for
things like this
ld people prefer I work on FGL
instead?
[5]: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/SourceGraph
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Christian Maeder writes:
> Ivan Lazar Miljenovic schrieb:
>> - Having a separate parameter (using associated types?) for the node
>> type rather than just using Int.
>
> "Just Int" for nodes was disappointing. It should have been at least a
> "new
some point, it would be nice if it survives in the
> code.
Hmmm I haven't come across "Metamorphic Programming" before, will
have to have a read through it (which isn't that appealing at the
moment, since I'm in the middle of the literature review secti
raries/base-4.2.0.0/Prelude.html#t%3AIO
>
> 2) Click "source", which redirects to
> http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/6.12.1/html/libraries/base-4.2.0.0/src/GHC-Types.html#IO
>
> 3) Observe a "Not Found" page
>
> Is there anyone interes
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