Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Oct 4, 2014 4:01 AM, "Andrea Faulds" wrote: > > > On 3 Oct 2014, at 17:21, Thomas Gossmann wrote: > > > I was wondering if it is possible to deprecate/remove the function keyword from class methods in php7 or at least make it optional when one of the visibility keywords is present? > > > > I f

[PHP-DEV] Seminario: Análisis de la Reforma Tributaria.

2014-10-03 Thread Reforma Tributaria
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Eli
On 10/3/14 4:57 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Easy to implement, too. What are the list’s thoughts? I don’t think it really > hampers readability much. > I disagree. This is a case where verbosity is a good thing. Removing the word 'function' is akin (pardon the analogy) to arguing the $x is just

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Sara Golemon
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Thomas Gossmann wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to deprecate/remove the function keyword > from class methods in php7 or at least make it optional when one of the > visibility keywords is present? > No. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Ingwie Phoenix wr

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
2014-10-04 0:06 GMT+02:00 Arvids Godjuks : > I really have to ask, did you work with really big projects? Like really > sizeable. Yes I have and I deal with it, instead of going into grindy small details about how the code looks like, I work with it and can quickly adapt to the project I work on n

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Arvids Godjuks
04 окт. 2014 г. 1:03 пользователь "Kalle Sommer Nielsen" написал: > > Hi > > 2014-10-03 22:00 GMT+02:00 Arvids Godjuks : > > Hello internals. > > > > I'm firmly against removing the "function" keyword. PHP is a dynamic > > language, that means that even using the latest most functional IDE's out >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi 2014-10-03 22:00 GMT+02:00 Arvids Godjuks : > Hello internals. > > I'm firmly against removing the "function" keyword. PHP is a dynamic > language, that means that even using the latest most functional IDE's out > there, finding the implementation is not always few clicks away (PhpStorm's > "Fi

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > Easy to implement, too. What are the list’s thoughts? I don’t think it really > hampers readability much. It's pretty faint praise - "doesn't hamper much". I think language feature should do better than not hurting too much. We don't need to change things and fragment the language just bec

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Loop... or...

2014-10-03 Thread Leigh
On 3 October 2014 20:04, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > Huh, why is the keyword choice not part of the vote? So, if people vote for > it with ‘or’, you could change it to something completely different? > > I don’t think that’s normal procedure. Because there currently isn't a choice. -- PHP Internal

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 3 Oct 2014, at 17:21, Thomas Gossmann wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to deprecate/remove the function keyword > from class methods in php7 or at least make it optional when one of the > visibility keywords is present? > > I feel like writing a completely unnecessary keyword eac

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Loop... or...

2014-10-03 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 3 Oct 2014, at 08:39, Leigh wrote: > If there are no outstanding issues raised by tonight (UTC), I will > open this RFC up to a vote. > > I'd like to remind everyone that we're discussing and voting on the > concept here rather than the implementation. I'm personally not happy > with "or", b

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] Loop + or control structure

2014-10-03 Thread Leigh
Hi all, Opening the vote on loop + or control structures. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/loop_or Voting will close in 1 week and requires a 2/3 in favour to pass. Remember at this stage the implementation is flexible. Cheers, Leigh. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsub

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Kris Craig
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > Hello internals. > > I'm firmly against removing the "function" keyword. PHP is a dynamic > language, that means that even using the latest most functional IDE's out > there, finding the implementation is not always few clicks away (PhpStorm

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Arvids Godjuks
Hello internals. I'm firmly against removing the "function" keyword. PHP is a dynamic language, that means that even using the latest most functional IDE's out there, finding the implementation is not always few clicks away (PhpStorm's "Find Usages") and you need to do a search in the project. And

[PHP-DEV] Regression in RecursiveRegexIterator

2014-10-03 Thread Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa
Hello :-), Does anyone know something about this bug: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68128 ? Thanks! -- Ivan Enderlin Developer of Hoa http://hoa-project.net/ PhD. at DISC/Femto-ST (Vesontio) and INRIA (Cassis) http://disc.univ-fcomte.fr/ and http://www.inria.fr/ Member of HTML and WebApps

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Mike Willbanks
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ingwie Phoenix wrote: > > Am 03.10.2014 um 19:38 schrieb Levi Morrison : > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Thomas Gossmann > > wrote: > > > >> Hey there, > >> > >> I'm just a php developer, thus not even having a php.net account. > >> > >> I was wondering if

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Ingwie Phoenix
Am 03.10.2014 um 19:38 schrieb Levi Morrison : > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Thomas Gossmann > wrote: > >> Hey there, >> >> I'm just a php developer, thus not even having a php.net account. >> >> I was wondering if it is possible to deprecate/remove the function keyword >> from class met

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Levi Morrison
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Thomas Gossmann wrote: > Hey there, > > I'm just a php developer, thus not even having a php.net account. > > I was wondering if it is possible to deprecate/remove the function keyword > from class methods in php7 or at least make it optional when one of the > vis

[PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Thomas Gossmann
Hey there, I'm just a php developer, thus not even having a php.net account. I was wondering if it is possible to deprecate/remove the function keyword from class methods in php7 or at least make it optional when one of the visibility keywords is present? I feel like writing a completely unn

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Loop... or...

2014-10-03 Thread Leigh
If there are no outstanding issues raised by tonight (UTC), I will open this RFC up to a vote. I'd like to remind everyone that we're discussing and voting on the concept here rather than the implementation. I'm personally not happy with "or", but if there is enough support during voting then I am

[PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE][RFC] 64 bit format codes for pack() and unpack()

2014-10-03 Thread Leigh
On 26 September 2014 08:58, Leigh wrote: > Voting is now open for this RFC. Voting closes around this time on the > 3rd of October 2014. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pack_unpack_64bit_formats > > Thanks, > > Leigh. Voting is now closed. RFC accepted with 100% in favour. Pull request for the impl