hadly hadened (Boston dialect) if Guido is not watching it.
Mehma
===
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Han Boetes wrote:
> Chris Bennett wrote:
> > You people have no sense of where security really lies at!
> > If you don't remove the hard drive, there is no security at all!
>
> I simply put m
It works, i remove my "enc0" from "set skip on {lo enc0 }" like told Mitja.
Thank's to Mitja.
Chris Bennett wrote:
> You people have no sense of where security really lies at!
> If you don't remove the hard drive, there is no security at all!
I simply put my servers into armored concrete. After that I dump
them somewhere in the middle of the ocean where the level is at
least 3 km. That's h
FWIW if I connect (boot with) my RAID enclosure to my eSATA card, the
problem goes away at shutdown time. Any ideas?
On 3/14/10, Anders Langworthy wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:44 PM, J.C. Roberts
> wrote:
>> Now getting back to the link/problem posted by Frank which mentions
>> firefox, as
Jeff Ross wrote:
...
> As a followup, here's what I have done to try to alleviate this:
>
> I bought and installed the plastic air shroud using the passive
> heatsinks that came with the motherboard. System still overheats and
> shuts down within a couple of minutes.
>
> I bought 2 AMD brand
2010/3/14 Adriaan :
> It is a failing name lookup. Just like the following done with dig
> from the command line:
>
> Adriaan
ok, thank you very much.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> Then why don't you use pfsense and port it back to OpenBSD.
I have never used pfsense but I see from the frontpage that it has
been forked from m0n0wall. Back then, m0n0wall did not support IPv6
(although now it does:
http://m0n0.ch/wall/li
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:43:13PM -0400, Douglas Maus wrote:
> When using mail, some header fields are not shown based on
> /etc/mail.rc: ignore (system)
> and
> ~/.mailrc: ignore (user)
>
> Even if a user removes the 'ignore' lines from his/her ~/.mailrc
> the system /etc/mail.rc 'ignore' line
On 3/14/2010 5:36 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
And I thought your suggestion was intentional...
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2009-12/chinese-woman-surgically-switches-fingerprints-evade-japanese-immigation-officers
If Bruce O'Neel is a Japanese woman, then I apologize yet again.
On 3/14/2010 5:32 PM, bofh wrote:
Amateur. I remove the entire computer for complete security.
Sloppy work. You didn't delete the computer's account from Active
Directory.
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:54:55 +0100 Robert
wrote:
> Chris Bennett wrote:
> > Matthias Kilian wrote:
> >> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> >>
> > ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm )
> >
> He forgot to remove sh(1), un
On 15/03/2010, at 10:10 AM, Steve Shockley wrote:
On 3/14/2010 4:11 PM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
Seriously, 40s should feel hot. 80s should burn. 100s should leave
a blister.
True, but even with 100C core temps the heat sink will probably be
nowhere close to that.
My apologies if following my
Chris Bennett wrote:
Matthias Kilian wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm )
He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1).
and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd
Better remove th
When using mail, some header fields are not shown based on
/etc/mail.rc: ignore (system)
and
~/.mailrc: ignore (user)
Even if a user removes the 'ignore' lines from his/her ~/.mailrc
the system /etc/mail.rc 'ignore' lines still are in effect.
I know a user can 'Type' (with capital T) to show al
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:10:07 -0400 Steve Shockley
wrote:
> On 3/14/2010 4:11 PM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
> > Seriously, 40s should feel hot. 80s should burn. 100s should leave
> > a blister.
>
> True, but even with 100C core temps the heat sink will probably be
> nowhere close to that.
>
> My ap
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Chris Bennett <
ch...@bennettconstruction.biz> wrote:
> You people have no sense of where security really lies at!
> If you don't remove the hard drive, there is no security at all!
>
>
Amateur. I remove the entire computer for complete security.
--
http://www.
On 3/14/10 5:12 PM, Steve Shockley wrote:
On 3/14/2010 2:38 PM, Denny White wrote:
2010/3/14-12:29:45-27293
I can play too!
Order number 2010/3/12-10:57:51-952
Hey,
No cheating. (;>
That's before the 4.7 release was even done.
You order 4.6, not 4.7 right?
On 3/14/2010 2:38 PM, Denny White wrote:
2010/3/14-12:29:45-27293
I can play too!
Order number 2010/3/12-10:57:51-952
On 3/14/2010 4:11 PM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
Seriously, 40s should feel hot. 80s should burn. 100s should leave
a blister.
True, but even with 100C core temps the heat sink will probably be
nowhere close to that.
My apologies if following my advice would have changed your thumbprint.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Jason Dixon spoke thusly:
> https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order?CD47=1&CD47%2b=Add
>
> --
> Jason Dixon
> DixonGroup Consulting
> http://www.dixongroup.net/
>
2010/3/14-12:29:45-27293
Way behind the others, but better late than never. ;)
--
==
Matthias Kilian wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm )
He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1).
and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd
Better remove the mainboard. That's w
Time how fast the blister forms on your right thumb.
Repeat multiple trials with your left thumb on a temp calbrated
hot plate. There's your answer.
Seriously, 40s should feel hot. 80s should burn. 100s should leave
a blister.
cheers
bruce
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Jeff Ros
- Matthias Kilian wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> > > > ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm )
> > >
> > > He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1).
> >
> > and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd
>
> Better remove the mainbo
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> > > ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm )
> >
> > He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1).
>
> and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd
Better remove the mainboard. That's way more secure and takes less
eff
On 3/14/2010 2:53 PM, Jeff Ross wrote:
I think I'll pass on this one. If the motherboard sensors are that far
off I don't want the server online anyway.
Agreed, but I think the sensors are in the CPU.
If you happen to have a meter and thermocouple laying around, or one of
those IR thermometer
And I thought I was early!
Just a bit under 10 minutes from the cvs email.
Not sure if you are the first one, but I challenge you for the next
release! (;>
The looser have to buy two!
Any other up for the challenge?
On 3/14/10 11:23 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
Date Sat Mar 13 16:36:24 MST 201
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:36:04PM +0100, Matthias Kilian wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:43:43PM +0200, Ozgur Kazancci wrote:
> > Is this a joke?
>
> No, just complete idiocy. The person who wrote this bullshit clearly
> qualifies for the german parliament.
>
> > (Removing OpenBSD unnecessa
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:43:43PM +0200, Ozgur Kazancci wrote:
> Is this a joke?
No, just complete idiocy. The person who wrote this bullshit clearly
qualifies for the german parliament.
> (Removing OpenBSD unnecessary and/or dangerous files)
>
> http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove.
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, STeve Andre' wrote:
On Sunday 14 March 2010 14:31:28 Bret S. Lambert wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote:
Steve Shockley wrote:
On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote:
I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly
the
On Sunday 14 March 2010 14:31:28 Bret S. Lambert wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote:
> > Steve Shockley wrote:
> > >On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote:
> > >>I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly
> > >>these processors should not
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote:
> Steve Shockley wrote:
> >On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote:
> >>I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly
> >>these processors should not exceed 71 deg C but I see temps near that at
> >>inear dle.
> >
>
Steve Shockley wrote:
On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote:
I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly
these processors should not exceed 71 deg C but I see temps near that at
inear dle.
If your next one does the same thing, it might be interesting to see
if the
There are different definitions of "security". When OpenBSD is
advertised as being secure, it means that users do not have access to
root.
In contrast, this person appears to equate security with total
authoritarian control of what users can do. My favorite quote from
http://geodsoft.com/howto
On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote:
I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly
these processors should not exceed 71 deg C but I see temps near that at
inear dle.
If your next one does the same thing, it might be interesting to see if
the processor temp is actua
On 14/03/2010 16:31, Martin Schrvder wrote:
2010/3/14 Edd Barrett:
Is anyone from openbsd europe on this list? I have some problems with
my pre-order and the "contact" email page doesnt work on the site.
And a site calling itself OpenBSD "Europe" should accept non-ascii
characters in names and
Ozgur Kazancci writes:
> Is this a joke?
As far as I can tell from browsing the site, he meant it as he wrote
it. It's possible this fit his particular application well, but I
find it a bit hard right off to tell what the real purpose was.
More importantly, note the dates and versions. This
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Robert wrote:
>
> There is nothing wrong with cripling an os by deleting files, if one
> isn't hurting enough yet.
> If some random textfile referencing 2.8 helps you achieve what you
> want, go for it.
There are very good reasons to remove files from an operating
Could not view the HTML letter from Click Jordan
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Edd Barrett wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Jason Dixon wrote:
>> https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order?CD47=1&CD47%2b=Add
>
> Is anyone from openbsd europe on this list? I have some problems with
> my pre-order and the "contact" email page doesnt work
2010/3/14 Edd Barrett :
> Is anyone from openbsd europe on this list? I have some problems with
> my pre-order and the "contact" email page doesnt work on the site.
And a site calling itself OpenBSD "Europe" should accept non-ascii
characters in names and addresses... :-(
It worked much easier bef
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Igor Sobrado wrote:
> You may try
> contacting with Mr. Foy by email if the form does not work (the email
> address is at the bottom of the "contact" page).
Have done, thanks
--
Best Regards
Edd Barrett
http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk
On 15/03/2010, at 3:09 AM, Sevan / Venture37 wrote:
On 13 Mar 2010, at 10:00 PM, Graeme Lee wrote:
FreeBSD and Linux
The routing is done on FreeBSD. UI on Linux
It's hardly rocket science either. It could easily be done on
OpenBSD, but we would need to add a "strip private" or similar to
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:43:43 +0200 (EET)
Ozgur Kazancci wrote:
> Hello.
> Is this a joke?
Uh, yes, i guess your mail could be considered a joke by some people. (:
There is nothing wrong with cripling an os by deleting files, if one
isn't hurting enough yet.
If some random textfile referencing
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Ozgur Kazancci
wrote:
> Hello.
> Is this a joke?
>
> (Removing OpenBSD unnecessary and/or dangerous files)
Welcome to the internet. Caution: idiots ahead.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Jason Dixon wrote:
> https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order?CD47=1&CD47%2b=Add
Is anyone from openbsd europe on this list? I have some problems with
my pre-order and the "contact" email page doesnt work on the site.
--
Best Regards
Edd Barrett
http://www.theun
Well that depends really.
If you dont need something why have it on you're machine?
Even if it's not a networked application it may make life easier
one someone does crack their way into you're machine.
Personally I like to lock things down as much as possible, just
because I find that in the
Hello.
Is this a joke?
(Removing OpenBSD unnecessary and/or dangerous files)
http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove.txt
( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm )
--
Ozgur
Date Sat Mar 13 16:36:24 MST 2010
Nope, I still win!
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> Daniel Ouellet writes:
>
> > But you didn't beat me! (;>
> >
> > Order number 2010/3/13-16:45:14-18205:
>
> Looks like I managed to sneak in before you then
>
> Order number
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:44 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
> Now getting back to the link/problem posted by Frank which mentions
> firefox, as well as your complaint about the speed of firefox... Yep,
> the final stop on the reality tour is most likely the fact that firefox
> might be *STILL* trying to s
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:10 PM, fqui nonez wrote:
> 2010/3/13 fqui nonez :
>> hello
>>
>> i founded messages on authlog of a OBSD-4.6, i have not seen it
>> before, and i was not able to find information at archives and google.
>>
>> Mar 9 02:20:25 OpenBSD kdeinit: gethostby*.getanswer: asked fo
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, I ended up reinstalling 4.6.
I suppose i shouldn't have so I could have figured out the problem.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Miod Vallat wrote:
>> Just an update:
>> I am able to cat > /dev/ttyC0 and cat /dev/ttyC0 and send and get text
>> both ways.
> Just an update:
> I am able to cat > /dev/ttyC0 and cat /dev/ttyC0 and send and get text
> both ways.
>
> If I run /usr/klibexec/getty std.9600 /dev/ttyC0, I get nothing. the
> only way to get out is ^Z and then kill it.
>
> Also, getty is not running when I start up. I check ps ax and its no
2010/3/13 fqui nonez :
> hello
>
> i founded messages on authlog of a OBSD-4.6, i have not seen it
> before, and i was not able to find information at archives and google.
>
> Mar 9 02:20:25 OpenBSD kdeinit: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for
> "srx.main.ebayrtm.com IN ", got type "SOA"
> Mar 9
On 13 Mar 2010, at 10:00 PM, Graeme Lee wrote:
FreeBSD and Linux
The routing is done on FreeBSD. UI on Linux
It's hardly rocket science either. It could easily be done on
OpenBSD, but we would need to add a "strip private" or similar to
make it implementable.
Thanks for letting us kno
hmm, on Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 04:46:26PM -0500, nixlists said that
> On 3/5/10, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
> >
> > look for the `-p` flag.
> >
>
> Know all about it. The problem is the kernel won't even get to that
> point - it hangs on "syncing disks..." stage.
this is an issue on my eeepc701 both
Daniel Ouellet writes:
> But you didn't beat me! (;>
>
> Order number 2010/3/13-16:45:14-18205:
Looks like I managed to sneak in before you then
Order number 2010/3/13-16:41:5-2017
:)
And /. took up my submitted story, hopefully that generates some extra
orders.
- Peter
--
Peter N. M. Hanst
On 3/14/10 5:47 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:53:12 -0700 Ted Roby wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Jason Dixon
wrote:
https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order?CD47=1&CD47%2b=Add
--
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net/
You're late!
I already
2010/3/14 Daniel Ouellet :
> On 3/14/10 3:48 AM, P P;Q Q P(P8P?P8Q P8P= wrote:
>>
>> the problem was described very precisely "pf gui like pfsense, but
>> installable on clean OpenBSD box", wasn't it ?
>
> Then why don't you use pfsense and port it back to OpenBSD.
because I don't like to waste m
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:52:29 +0100 (CET) Antoine Jacoutot
wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm usually not very active on misc@ but since pre-order for 4.7 have
> started, I think it is the right time to remind us all that CD sales
> are not only important but critical to the project.
>
> First, lack of money
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:47:45 -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:53:12 -0700 Ted Roby wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Jason Dixon
>> wrote:
>>
>> > https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order?CD47=1&CD47%2b=Add
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jason Dixon
>> > DixonGroup Consulting
>>
On 3/14/10 3:48 AM, PP;Q Q P(P8P?P8QP8P= wrote:
the problem was described very precisely "pf gui like pfsense, but
installable on clean OpenBSD box", wasn't it ?
Then why don't you use pfsense and port it back to OpenBSD.
After all pf was created on OpenBSD and works better on OpenBSD anywa
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:53:12 -0700 Ted Roby wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Jason Dixon
> wrote:
>
> > https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order?CD47=1&CD47%2b=Add
> >
> > --
> > Jason Dixon
> > DixonGroup Consulting
> > http://www.dixongroup.net/
> >
> >
> You're late!
> I already put
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:26:01AM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote:
> if I control-C out of the install/upgrade script and run the command I
> *think* the upgrade script is running, base46.tgz installs just fine.
>
> This is the command I *think* is being run by the upgrade script but
> i'm not 1
if I control-C out of the install/upgrade script and run the command I
*think* the upgrade script is running, base46.tgz installs just fine.
This is the command I *think* is being run by the upgrade script but
i'm not 100% positive:
# ftp -V -o - -m file://mnt2/4.6/i386/base46.tgz | cat | tar zxp
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Predrag Punosevac
wrote:
> I am probably missing something big time but could somebody enlight me
> and explain why would 4.7 be released May 19 2010?
>
> If the schedule is going back to normal it should be May 1st. If 4.7
> is to be released six months from 4.6 i
Hi.
I'm usually not very active on misc@ but since pre-order for 4.7 have
started, I think it is the right time to remind us all that CD sales are
not only important but critical to the project.
First, lack of money means less hackathons, which renders hacking less
fun, and fun is the number 1
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