"Bryan Harris" wrote:
> "My mother had a favorite saying (origin unknown): "You can get used to
> anything if you do it long enough. Even hanging." She trotted out that
> saying whenever my siblings or I complained about something that wasn't
> going to change."
>
> And later:
>
> "Persuasion Tip
Re: question:
> How did you solve the "like" factor?
I don't know how true, but I like these passages.
"My mother had a favorite saying (origin unknown): "You can get used to
anything if you do it long enough. Even hanging." She trotted out that
saying whenever
Yes, this may well be the problem: easier to understand if we speak of teddy
bear, much harder if we speak
of software upgrades! And yet, here we are...
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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 02:17, wrote:
> I wrote: > > In that case, I'd interpret the beancounter's reponse as 'ha
LibreOffice has the *old* Microsoft Office GUI, which is what the users wanted.
The change was introduced to help them keeping the old workflow with the old
GUI while meeting the demands of automated software deployment, relevant ISO
27001/2 policies, and yes, get past the Microsoft licencing ni
I wrote:
>
> In that case, I'd interpret the beancounter's reponse as 'have to make
> sacrifices, don't we? *sigh*'.
I amend that.
Isn't it just loss?
We experienced techies try not to allow ourselves to get too attached
to an environment, don't we? But hasn't there been a 'first time' this
has
Muscle memory and shortcuts are certainly something we must look after, within
reason. Microsoft itself has changed menu one time too many, to the point of
having people complain for it and not wanting to use the new versions. As they
now have a menu that is close to the original favourite, and
> Yeah, but like in most other abusive relationships, those people find
> it very hard to leave M$, whatever they do.
>
> And will still eye a potential replacement partner with a lot of
> scepticism (not quite unjustified).
It won't help the case if you come across as unsympathet
"Rupert Gallagher" wrote:
> Well, people hated Microsoft's new GUIs, and wanted the old windows xp/7
> back, which we delivered. They are happy now, and so do we.
>
> They also hated the new GUI with the latest Office suite, so they kept using
> the older version. LibreOffice has the Microsoft O
Well, people hated Microsoft's new GUIs, and wanted the old windows xp/7 back,
which we delivered. They are happy now, and so do we.
They also hated the new GUI with the latest Office suite, so they kept using
the older version. LibreOffice has the Microsoft Office GUI, so they are happy
now, a
won't help the case if you come across as unsympathetic/unwilling to
> understand your users, and it won't help if you don't try to work with
> them to resolve the issues.
Well, if the root issue is the command from up high, then it's either
obey or quit. A nasty dilemm
"Daniel Wilkins" wrote:
> Something to consider is that there *are* areas where libreoffice is
> deficient.
Yup.
>
> It's not uncommon for businesses to have a terrifying amount of embedded
> visual
> basic and incredibly elaborate excel macros, I wouldn't be surprised if the
> (possibly theor
Something to consider is that there *are* areas where libreoffice is deficient.
It's not uncommon for businesses to have a terrifying amount of embedded visual
basic and incredibly elaborate excel macros, I wouldn't be surprised if the
(possibly theoretical) suit literally can't get their work don
"Noah" wrote:
> The software does mostly the same things, but you moved the menus and
> buttons around. The pictures they recognize aren't there. Things work just
> a little differently now. For some, it takes longer to do the things they
> need to do. They have muscle memory and "shortcuts" that
Perhaps it isn't just word/excel, but rather, getting used to the
operating system changes and its antics. It appears you have changed
their OS and their software, and this has upset them. No training was
provided explaining to them the nooks and crannies of the new software,
so they are frustrated
I wrote:
> windoze nt 5.2.
I meant 6.0. Sorry, haven't been keeping track and M$ is, true to
form, not making it easy by having obscured the number (and since
having switched to outright *lying* about it).
--schaafuit.
bytevolc...@safe-mail.net wrote:
> Perhaps it isn't just word/excel, but rather, getting used to the
> operating system changes and its antics. It appears you have changed
> their OS and their software, and this has upset them. No training was
> provided explaining to them the nooks and crannies of
"Rupert Gallagher" rote:
> We nerds are the other side of the problem, because we are apparently unable
> to understand their problem.
And even if we understand it, we often cannot offer a solution that
satisfies them.
> We have little simpathy for those who frown without evidence of an actual
We nerds are the other side of the problem, because we are apparently unable to
understand their problem. We have little simpathy for those who frown without
evidence of an actual problem. Perhaps this is an example that humans still
find it comfortable to "follow and go along together", like a
Hi,
"Rupert Gallagher" wrote:
> How did you solve the "like" factor?
As I have no experience in office situations, I cannot answer that.
However, it would've been an interesting experiment to just swap the
logos and see how long it'd take for them to noti
h Microsoft, move on with your duties. All
is well, apart from the "like" factor. The user is unable to explain why they
miss Microsoft Excell and Word 2007, by comparison with up-to-date libreoffice.
How did you solve the "like" factor?
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