Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Digest, Vol 81, Issue 86

2015-07-23 Thread John Bradley
Thanks for the review Erik, We will go through it in detail and get back to you. I am working with a couple of governments on how a eID app could use the self issued profile of OpenID Connect to issue tokens. There are also other out of band authentication apps that people use that need to be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Digest, Vol 81, Issue 86

2015-07-23 Thread Erik Wahlström
Hi, Thanks for a great document! I volunteered to review draft-wdenniss-oauth-native-apps-00 at the #IETF93 meeting so here we go: In national mobile eID deployments an app is issued by gov or other organisation in a country. The app acts as the users authentication method and it works with an ID

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Jones
I agree that an obvious good thing to do is to add spec references to the field definitions. I need to investigate use cases for amr_values. I think this came from developers who actually wanted this for a particular purpose but I’ll have to get back to the WG on that. It’s defined here, rath

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Nat Sakimura
So, allow me a naive question. I supppose there are good random otp, as well as pretty bad otp etc. Would it be useful to say just "otp". Would it not be better to have at least a field that references a spec that specifies the security requirement for that mechanism? 2015-07-23 12:05 GMT+02:00 Wi

[OAUTH-WG] Meeting Minutes

2015-07-23 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Here are the notes from our meeting yesterday: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/minutes/minutes-93-oauth Thanks to Erik for taking notes. Please let me know if something is missing or incorrect within the next 2 weeks. Ciao Hannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth implementation fail

2015-07-23 Thread Barry Leiba
> Now, as to the spec change is concerned, I agree with John that it is not > required. > > However, a Best practice document would probably help the developers. That's exactly what I had in mind -- no spec change, but something (or some things) to help guide developers into do the right thing, se

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Phil Hunt
I do tend to agree John that clients shouldn't be able to force the sp on choices. My thought was that it was useful to have a registry so we can have standard auth method values for protocols that get written like oidc. It may be useful elsewhere. Anyway as a general rule I think it is som

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Brian Campbell
So maybe a naive question but why does this draft define "amr_values" while also suggesting that it's fragile and that "acr" & "acr_values" is preferable? Seems contradictory. And I doubt I'm the only one that will find it confusing. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > The key

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Jones
The key part of this is establishing a registry. That can only be done in an RFC. John, I encourage you to submit text beefing up the arguments about why using “acr” is preferable. The text at http://self-issued.info/docs/draft-jones-oauth-amr-values-00.html#acrRelationship is a start at tha

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread John Bradley
I don’t personally have a problem with people defining values for AMR and creating a IANA registry. That exists for ACR. I am on record as not supporting clients requesting amr as it ai a bad idea and the spec mentions that at the same time it defines a new request parameter for it. It is pr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authentication Method Reference Values Specification

2015-07-23 Thread Justin Richer
Useful work, but shouldn’t this be defined in the OIDF, where the “amr" parameter is defined? — Justin > On Jul 22, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > > Phil Hunt and I have posted a new draft that defines some values used with > the “amr” (Authentication Methods References) claim and est