Re: Problem with understanding Optimization methods.

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
You can find out by employing the event 10053, lev 8. Looking from afar, however, it seems more likely that you haven't configured your CBO properly. Here is something you can try: Execute the following commands: alter session set optimizer_index_caching=40; alter session set optimizer_index

RE: Hotsos' Classes

2004-01-06 Thread Cary Millsap
Venu, I can't give a nonpartisan answer, but I can provide some information. I hope this helps: Performance Diagnosis 101 (formerly the "Hotsos Clinic") - This is a 3-day course dedicated to teaching a method for diagnosing performance problems on production (and integration-testing) systems. It'

RE: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Michael Thomas
Hi, I'm in Raleigh, so DataDirect is right nearby. Also, I know their current managers, etc. I worked with them on my last contract, and know something about their stuff. We needed an ODBC driver from our ETL DataStage UNIX server to an Sybase Adaptive Server Anywhere (old version) client running

Problem with understanding Optimization methods.

2004-01-06 Thread Denham Eva
Hello Listers, A normal sql query from a data warehouse tool called Sagent. SELECT COL1, COL2, COL3 FROM TABLE ORDER BY 3; The table has approximately 2 mil records. table has 22 indexes. The database is set up optimizer CHOOSE. I run DBMS_Stats.Gather_Schema_Stats('SchemaName') regularly. OS i

Re: recreable/freeable chunks

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
So long and thanks for all the fish. On 2004.01.06 23:44, Sultan Syed wrote: > Thanks for all guys > > Syed > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:09 PM > > > Hi! > > I wrote about recreatable c

Re: recreable/freeable chunks

2004-01-06 Thread Sultan Syed
Thanks for all guys Syed - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:09 PM Hi! I wrote about recreatable chunk handling from memory and mixed up chunk freeing routines and chunk's data recreation routines: A call

Re: Bug with automatic undo management?

2004-01-06 Thread Ryan
they eventually said its data dictionary blocks in the old RBS, that were having delayed block cleanout. they couldnt be cleaned out because the tablespace was offline. its a bug. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06,

RE: ora1652 question...

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
John has already shown you how to generate a trace when an error is encountered via the 'events' mechanism. If you would like to see what events are available, peruse the file $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/mesg/oraus.msg if you are on *nix. If you are on win32, the file is unfortunately not available. Star

RE: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
Ah, Merant is just down the street, sort of. Maybe they'll loan me one. :) Thanks for the explanation. The concept isn't new, but the terminology is. Jared On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 14:09, Grant Allen wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jared Still [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent:

Re: Bug with automatic undo management?

2004-01-06 Thread Daniel W. Fink
In order to switch between undo management modes, you must shutdown and restart, so all sessions are disconnected. Therefore, session cleanout is not the culprit. OTS's answer does not make sense since the error is that the file can't be read, not an ORA-1555 as I would expect if the rbs can't b

Re: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Daniel W. Fink
Who cares about the profanity Do you a) pound nails in a squirrel and b) force David Kurtz to consume massive amounts of gin whilst lobbing Fosters at the audience? Connor McDonald wrote: > I have to admit I like this stuff about "Connor's > book" especially since I'm only a co-author for

RE: Convert to Locally-Managed Tablespaces

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
SAP expects tables to be in certain tablespaces: PSAPBTABD for instance. Same with indexes: PSAPBTABI The SAPDBA interactive tool is being phased out in favor of the command line tool brconnect. I don't know if brconnect allows some flexibility in tablespace names, but I doubt it. Just haven'

RE: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Connor McDonald
I have to admit I like this stuff about "Connor's book" especially since I'm only a co-author for the thing :-) (And unlike my presentations, I promise that there is no profanity in the book...) Cheers Connor --- Niall Litchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't read it yet, but I'd be am

Re: Convert to Locally-Managed Tablespaces

2004-01-06 Thread zhu chao
Hi, I just use vi :%s/oldtablespacename/newtablespacename/g to edit the dump file and import it back.In my case, it did work. And it is oracle supported method of renaming tablespace in versions before 10g. Manual parallel means: I have to move 10 table, for example, so in one script,

DBA tasks

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
What does a DBA do? What should a DBA do? Interesting short list, or maybe not so short. http://dbasupport.com/oracle/ora9i/resolutions.shtml -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 8

RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I remember my previous aussie manager used to be verbose after few Beers (or Beah's) otherwise was usually less talkative, but was a real nice guy. Aussies are good natured people, not too uptight. Raj -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of

RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Pete Sharman
Of course I resemble that remark! You really don't want to know what verbiage I have though! :) And of course, those that know both of us would realize that Niall and myself are two of the few Oakies capable of having facial hair, so we clearly resemble each other. :) Pete "Controlling d

Re: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 2004.01.06 18:44, Pete Sharman wrote: > I resemble that remark! Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a bit direct > for some people sometime. :) > > > Pete You RESEMBLE that remark? reÂsemÂble (click to hear the word) (r-zmbl) tr.v. reÂsemÂbled, reÂsemÂb

Re: ora1652 question...

2004-01-06 Thread anu
You could also use a trigger to get the info to a temp table as follows. This will probably fire after any error and could be performance hit. (happy new year to all).  :   create or replace trigger system.server_1652_error_trig after servererror on database declare   v_audsid number; v_usernam

RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Pete Sharman
I resemble that remark! Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a bit direct for some people sometime. :) Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Or

RE: ora1652 question...

2004-01-06 Thread John Kanagaraj
Chris, There are two options: 1. Easier, but requires a bounce : Add the following event into init.ora event="1652 trace name processstate level 10" This will dump the processstate for processing that encounter an ORA-01652. And you can even add the following to capture 1555 and 4031 errors e

RE: HOTSOS Conference

2004-01-06 Thread Pete Sharman
And did you really expect that people might NOT be interested in drinks and dinner??? :) I'll be there too, but thankfully relaxing and listening rather than presenting as I usually am. It'll make an interesting change! :) Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney,

Re: Re[2]: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
ALL_ROWS would indeed prefer hash join and S/M over NL. On 2004.01.06 17:14, Jay Wade wrote: > Thanks again for all your help. > Does the ALL_ROWS hint force a preference in Join Types as well? > If so would it try to force a HASH JOIN? > > > >From: Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To

Re: Re[2]: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Jay Wade
Thanks again for all your help. Does the ALL_ROWS hint force a preference in Join Types as well? If so would it try to force a HASH JOIN? From: Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re[2]: OCP Questio

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Jonathan Lewis
A bigger error in option (d) is that it leaves open the ambiguity of whether the rows should, or should not, be part of the answer to the join. Oracle's choice of join could be affected by adding 100 rows to the table that should be included in the join, but remain unchanged if you add 1

RE: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Grant Allen
> -Original Message- > From: Jared Still [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 07:45 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: oracle client on PC's > > > What is a 'wire-protocol' ODBC driver? > > Jared It's an ODBC driver that either speaks the na

RE: Upgrade

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Drake
--- "Jesse, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like I implied, we had issues running Oracle7 on > Windohs NT4.0. Those > "issues" were frequent ORA-600s and corruption, if I > remember correctly. We > moved those DBs to Unix and the problem was solved. Jesse: new hardware. new OS. new oracle i

ora1652 question...

2004-01-06 Thread Chris Stephens
Is there an event to set where I can identify any sql that receives a 1652 error message? There is some process running each night in a reporting database that has been generating this error for the past week. I figured someone would complain. That didn't happen so I went and asked the reporting

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Jonathan Lewis
I see you're running on Oracle 9 there, and that can make a big difference. After posting my hypothesis, I created a test case, which behaved as I had predicted - but the behaviour changed in Oracle 9, and I had to do some tweaking. Turns out my test case highlighted what looks like a but in the

RE: Convert to Locally-Managed Tablespaces

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
Hi Obviously I'm not Tanel, but we have a similar situation where we don't actually need to keep segments in specifically named tablespaces - but we do need when upgrading all of the specifically named tablespaces to exist, and have sufficient free speace for the upgrade. The app is cross-dbplatfo

test - please ignore

2004-01-06 Thread IT - Database (Do Not Use)
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RE: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
Jonathan noted that > > Nope. The answer is b). In the FIRST_ROWS mode, optimizer > prefers NL > > to > all other > > methos despite the price. > > > > Unless the alternative is a full tablescan on the inner > table - in which case merge or hash joins can be > considered. For some reason hash j

RE: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
I believe the technical term is f'n magic. It is pretty much the analog of the JDBC thin client drivers - i.e. one that doesn't require the Oracle client software and communicates directly over TCP (not sure if any support anything else) with the db server. They cost. Niall > -Original

RE: Upgrade

2004-01-06 Thread Jesse, Rich
Like I implied, we had issues running Oracle7 on Windohs NT4.0. Those "issues" were frequent ORA-600s and corruption, if I remember correctly. We moved those DBs to Unix and the problem was solved. Granted, this was Oracle7, but like I said, I see no need to spend money to re-investigate the cos

RAC with RMAN

2004-01-06 Thread Spears, Brian
Is anybody Running Rac on Unix that is also implemented RMAN on it as well? What type of setup or special considerations did you run into if any? I am considering my options with RAC and whether to expect any bumps with RMAN and/or extra considerations. Feedback is greatly appreciated.

RE: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
Title: Message OK I'll bite. Why would you not   1. install the Oracle client on every PC? OR 2. make the app web enabled and just point everyone at a URL.   I get really confused when folk (and this isn't aimed at you honest) are quite happy to have sqlserver,msaccess,excel,text and foxp

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Jay Wade
Thanks for the help. Do you have any ideas to the FIRST_ROWS behavior in regards to NL? I've been looking and found http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96533/optimops.htm#39473 it goes into detail about using hints for joins but now how the FIRST_ROWS forces a join sele

Re: Re[2]: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
Oracle doesn't but Jonathan Lewis does, in his "Tutorials". I found out about that from Scott Gosset in 8i internals class in NYC. Seems still to be true. Gospel of Jonathan should suffice, however. I just discovered that my 10053 trace name errorstack forever, level 12 causes ORA-600 in 9.2. Let

RE: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue

2004-01-06 Thread Nelson, Allan
Title: Message I think we had something like this once before and it was a jdk version issue.  I think that we prepended the path with the java1.3 bin directory.  It was a while back,. my memory is hazy and we are 11.5.7 on HP-UX.   Allan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Stephen.Lee
What I meant is that the question cannot be answered without making human assumptions about the question itself. It is a little difficult (Note "little" not "lot") to believe that such a poorly written question would appear on a test that costs money to take. -Original Message- Someone

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
Jonathan, you're right. Interesting thing is that bitmap indexes, which were made for DW processing and not for OLTP will also be considered for NL context in First_Rows mode. Here is the proof, which also proves that I'm a lousy typist: SQL> set autorace on explain SP2-0158: unknown SET option

RE: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue

2004-01-06 Thread April Wells
Title: Message Turns out we had the wrong version of JAVA...   April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas   /\  /   \ / \ \ /   \/   >\< \ >\< \ Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age 11 -O

RE: Convert to Locally-Managed Tablespaces

2004-01-06 Thread Goulet, Dick
Well I don't know about SAP either, thank GOD. PeopleSoft does maintain the tablespace where tables and index are suppose to reside so that come upgrade time you can see what's moved, but at least they provide a rather painless way to change that if needed. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle

RE: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread John Blake
we have a standard desktop or laptop image which we install the client  and create a package containing the change, we then push to the pc's that require the oracle client.   We use onames with a primary and secondary name server. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma

RE: Convert to Locally-Managed Tablespaces

2004-01-06 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jared - I don't know SAP, but other canned applications have a "wonderful" process they put you through every few years called an upgrade. Often you end up creating another database and moving the data. This is a great opportunity for the DBA to fix some issues like this. However, since SAP is used

RE: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
What I have heard is that all the OCP questions are taken from the Oracle University Student Guide. After all, you wouldn't you expect the class to prepare you? Someone suggested that you "think like a computer". Well, for the philosophy behind the exam, "think like an organization", namely Oracle

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
Piece of cake using vi, perl, or even pl/sql. vi: 1000iWolfgang perl: print qq{Wolfgang\n} x 1000; pl/sql: typically more verbose, left as an exercise for the reader. Oh, you didn't mean paper did you? Not sure I still know how to do that. ;) Jared On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 12:19, Wolfgang Bre

Re: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
What is a 'wire-protocol' ODBC driver? Jared On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 11:54, Justin Cave wrote: > At 11:39 AM 1/6/2004, Jeffrey Beckstrom wrote: > >Rather than installing the Oracle client on every client PC, we have been: > >- installing client on 1 PC > >- copying directory to a network server > >

RE: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue

2004-01-06 Thread Nelson, Allan
Title: Message in $ORACLE_HOME/bin relink -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of April WellsSent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:20 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue Don

Re: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom
most of the remote sites do not have a file server at all.  They access file servers at the "main office" for everything.>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/6/04 2:54:26 PM >>> --- Jeffrey Beckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Rather than installing the Oracle client on every> client PC, we have been:>

RE: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Odland, Brad
Usually it is installed and configured as a part of a standard corporate disk image.   Many shops will trim the fat off the client to keep the size down.   Or you walk around with a CD.   -Original Message-From: Jeffrey Beckstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, Ja

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Since we're both going to be in Dallas in March I'll have to have you write my name 1000 times ;-) At 01:04 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: Yeah I know, did it again. Wolfgang Breitling Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA Centrex Consulting Corporation http://www.centrexcc.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-

Re: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Drake
--- Justin Cave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:39 AM 1/6/2004, Jeffrey Beckstrom wrote: > >Rather than installing the Oracle client on every > client PC, we have been: > >- installing client on 1 PC > >- copying directory to a network server > >- extract the registry for "oracle" key > >- fix

RE: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
Maybe it indicates the different places we are in but I much prefer "While I'm still confused and uncertain, it's on a much higher plane, d'you see, and at least I know I'm bewildered about the really fundamental and important facts of the universe." Treatle nodded. "I hadn't looked at it like tha

RE: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Paula_Stankus
FIRST_ROWS would alter the behavior regardless of the number of rows. -Original Message- Jay Wade Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 1:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello: I was looking through some OCP questions posted on the web and came across the one below. I believ

Re: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom
The application is a third-party application using Merant's ODBC driver.   How do people normally install the client.  Do you do an install to every workstation??? >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/6/04 2:54:34 PM >>> At 11:39 AM 1/6/2004, Jeffrey Beckstrom wrote:>Rather than installing the Oracle cli

RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
I haven't read it yet, but I'd be amazed if Connor's book wasn't excellent. He is a great communicator, despite being an aussie and all. Mogens and Tony from apress are probably pretty busy with the Miracle db forum right now (work gloves and stuff were mentioned euurgh), but there are plans that

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
Yeah I know, did it again. On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 10:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > The name is Breitling. Wolfgang Breitling. Not to be confused with Bond. James Bond. > On 2004.01.06 12:34, Jared Still wrote: > > * to satisfy curiosity > > * to have a better understanding of how Oracle works > > > >

RE: Upgrade

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
Jesse wrote > As far as "business requirements" go, we have a requirement > for a certain amount of uptime and reliability. Oracle7 on > Windohs could satisfy neither, and have no need to spend > money to re-investigate this for newer versions of Oracle/Windohs. What would that 'certain amount

Re: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Justin Cave
At 11:39 AM 1/6/2004, Jeffrey Beckstrom wrote: Rather than installing the Oracle client on every client PC, we have been: - installing client on 1 PC - copying directory to a network server - extract the registry for "oracle" key - fix registry that was extracted to reference the network drive - lo

Re: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Drake
--- Jeffrey Beckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rather than installing the Oracle client on every > client PC, we have been: > - installing client on 1 PC > - copying directory to a network server > - extract the registry for "oracle" key > - fix registry that was extracted to reference the > n

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Note in-line. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr One-day tutorials: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html Three-day seminar: see http

RE: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Stephen.Lee
Think like a computer. "Which execution plan will be the result?" result of what? an insert statement? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Ryan
thought so, I'm not 100% certain the OCP will say that though. alot of inaccuracies in that test. btw, Ive been playing with first_rows lately. I've noticed that it has a preference for 'INDEX FULL SCAN' over 'INDEX RANGE SCAN'. Ive found that in some test cases where you have two tables approxima

Re: sql trace - forward attribution

2004-01-06 Thread Tanel Poder
Btw, reading through a 10046/12 trace from instance startup & database opening can reveal really lots of interesting information :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:24 PM > Thanks, Raj, but

Re[2]: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Tuesday, January 6, 2004, 1:59:26 PM, Mladen Gogala ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: MG> Nope. The answer is b). In the FIRST_ROWS mode, optimizer prefers NL to all other MG> methos despite the price. Does Oracle themselves *document* that what you say is the case? I believe you, but I'm not sure that O

Hotsos' Classes

2004-01-06 Thread Potluri, Venu (CT Appl Suppt)
Is there a proper sequence of classes to take, among those offered by Hotsos? While I do use Wait events to monitor & "tune" my Oracle Financials databases, I need more training in Performance tuning. I am just dipping my toes into the world of Oracle Performance Tuning. I am reading Cary's boo

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
Nope. The answer is b). In the FIRST_ROWS mode, optimizer prefers NL to all other methos despite the price. On 2004.01.06 13:44, Jay Wade wrote: > Hello: > > I was looking through some OCP questions posted on the web and came across > the one below. > I believe the answer is (D), because the joi

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2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
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Re: sql trace - forward attribution

2004-01-06 Thread Daniel W. Fink
I had the same discussion with Jeff Holt (one of Cary's partners in crime) and he described #0 attributions as actions not associated with a cursor (i.e. statement). For example, I worked on a web server which would maintain a persistent connection. Every 90 minutes, it would execute a series of st

Re: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Drake
--- Jeffrey Beckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rather than installing the Oracle client on every > client PC, we have been: > - installing client on 1 PC > - copying directory to a network server > - extract the registry for "oracle" key > - fix registry that was extracted to reference the > n

RE: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue

2004-01-06 Thread April Wells
Title: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue wence java shows wrong version (1.1.8)   oracle said that isn't an issue (previous core dump issue that is known bug) since ./java shows 1.3.1 but they have had this sev2 itar for 4 hours now and it is still in WIP status... they are researching it..

RE: sql trace - forward attribution

2004-01-06 Thread Boris Dali
Thanks, Raj, but I don't think so. The whole reason behind enabling a db-wide trace was to capture everything sql trace is instrumented to capture. As you know sql_trace is a static parameter, so I got everything "from the begining", including: PARSING IN CURSOR #1 ALTER DATABASE MOUNT .. PARSI

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Ryan
D is probably the answer, but most of the time oracle will choose nested loop. Beware the OCP tuning test. It is completely and totally inaccurate. I emailed the author of the Sybex tuning book and he agreed with me. He said he wrote the book to the test and knows its garbage. - Original Mes

OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-06 Thread Jay Wade
Hello: I was looking through some OCP questions posted on the web and came across the one below. I believe the answer is (D), because the join type would be dependent on the number of rows within the table. Is this correct or does the OPTIMIZER_MODE set to FIRST_ROWS alter this behavior? The

Re: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Welcome back. I was wondering where you've been the last couple of weeks. At 11:19 AM 1/6/2004, you wrote: As well as Arthur's books and Douglas's books. Some of the Robert's, too. Personally, I'd recommend "Stranger In The Strange Land". Wolfgang Breitling Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA Centrex Con

Re: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Jonathan Lewis
You missed out Terry: Oh, it's largely intuitive, Archchancellor. Obviously you have to spend a lot of time learning it first, though." Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who ca

oracle client on PC's

2004-01-06 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom
Rather than installing the Oracle client on every client PC, we have been:- installing client on 1 PC - copying directory to a network server - extract the registry for "oracle" key - fix registry that was extracted to reference the network drive - load registry on client PCs - add the network

Re: Progress of an index rebuild

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Drake
--- Daniel Hanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any way to check on the progress of an > index rebuild? (Oracle 8i). I.e., it would be nice > to get some indicator as to how far an index rebuild > has gone, something like "75% done...". > Daniel, v$session_longops, perhaps? (at least for

Loading Muliti-Language Excel data into UTF-8 database

2004-01-06 Thread jaysingh1
Hi All, I need to load Multi-language data from MS-Excel sheet into Oracle 8i database (UTF-8). I saved Excel file as .CSV file then using SQL*Loader did load the data into Oracle database. But the data got garbled(all ). How should I resolve this issue? Is there a way to store Excel file i

RE: Progress of an index rebuild

2004-01-06 Thread Goulet, Dick
Daniel, Check out V$SESSION_LONGOPS. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is there any way to check on the progress of an index rebuild? (Oracle 8i). I.e., it

RE: undotbs01.dbf just keeps growing

2004-01-06 Thread Michael Milligan
I had the same thing happen in a DB I inherited. Turns out the PCTINCREASE was set to 50%! I set optimal and tried to shrink, but extents were located throughout. The only thing I could do was drop the tablespace and recreate it and all the rollback (undo) segments. HTH Mike -Original Messag

Re: Progress of an index rebuild

2004-01-06 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Check v$session_longops view, it is meant for monitoring this kind of long-running jobs - but it can be quite inaccurate. Another way would be to check v$sort_usage during sorting phase of index recreation and then check the newly created index segments size (it'll be created as a temporary se

Re: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
As well as Arthur's books and Douglas's books. Some of the Robert's, too. Personally, I'd recommend "Stranger In The Strange Land". On 2004.01.06 12:04, Pete Finnigan wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >I won't argue that, Allan.  The guy writes two sentences, and it > >takes a week f

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
The name is Breitling. Wolfgang Breitling. Not to be confused with Bond. James Bond. On 2004.01.06 12:34, Jared Still wrote: > * to satisfy curiosity > * to have a better understanding of how Oracle works > > Most DBA's probably don't need to know this stuff. Most > performance problems will not

Sqlplus formatting problem with English and Unicode

2004-01-06 Thread alan . aschenbrenner
Hi, Here is an easy one hopefully, but I've been unable to figure it out via Google or Metalink. When selecting data from an AL32UTF8 database, sqlplus has problems formatting output on the screen. When I select both English (1-byte, A-Z) date and Unicode (2,3, or 4-byte) data, the colum

Re: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue

2004-01-06 Thread Tanel Poder
Title: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue Do you have correct JDK installed (J2SE1.3.1+)?   IIRC, autoconfig uses java as well...   Tanel.   - Original Message - From: April Wells To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:19 PM

RE: Progress of an index rebuild

2004-01-06 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Have you checked v$session_longops ... ??? regular index builds show up there, so I guess rebuilds will show up as well ... Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are stric

Progress of an index rebuild

2004-01-06 Thread Daniel Hanks
Is there any way to check on the progress of an index rebuild? (Oracle 8i). I.e., it would be nice to get some indicator as to how far an index rebuild has gone, something like "75% done...". As a rough indicator, I've noticed when rebuilding/moving an index to a different tablespace, Oracle wi

RE: Upgrade

2004-01-06 Thread Jesse, Rich
Actually, no. If we had any Oracle servers on Windohs, I would only feel comfortable with TightVNC server on it, and even then I would insist on no more than 800x600 and 256 colors (hopefully the Installer works with that!), due to the transmission overhead involved. And if you can set up an Orac

Re: sql trace - forward attribution

2004-01-06 Thread Boris Dali
Thanks, Tanel. I did checked v$session_connect info, but it doesn't tell me much, except authentication_type='PROXY' which is less than useful as it doesn't tell to whom. v$session.client_identifier is empty. Thanks, Boris Dali. > Check V$SESSION_CONNECT_INFO view. > CLIENT_IDENTIFIER in V$SESS

RE: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
* to satisfy curiosity * to have a better understanding of how Oracle works Most DBA's probably don't need to know this stuff. Most performance problems will not likely require you to know any of this. If you spend a lot of time solving other people's 'unsolvable' Oracle performance problems, as

RE: Upgrade

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Drake
We had some issues with using a TightVNC client against vnc server v3.3.7, whereby the server process would crash and not restart, requiring a server reboot. So TightVNC got tossed as a client in our environment. Its nice to have Terminal Services enabled so that one can attempt to restart a crash

RE: Upgrade

2004-01-06 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Ugh ... you mentioned disable all that crap ... but that included windows .. no? That would solve a lot of problems ... right? sorry, I am in an exceptionally good mood today just because computer room woke me up at 3:30am to fix something!! Aah... the joys of being on-call. Raj -

RE: Upgrade

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Drake
Rich, > Citrix Metaframe, rdesktop, and TightVNC help a > bunch, too. :) This is the biggest reason why people badmouth Windows for use with Oracle. You install Citrix MetaFrame on the same server as you run Oracle Database Server? Get real. You probably have IIS, RRAS, IPSec, numerous file se

Re: sql trace - forward attribution

2004-01-06 Thread Tanel Poder
> 2) since waits #0 appear only before the calls to a > stored code - I don't know if they deliberatly "switch > sessions" in the code that runs on the app server and > run the stored code as the schema owner (similar to > switching current schema as an alternative to using > synonyms) or it is a f

RE: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue

2004-01-06 Thread April Wells
Title: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue context editor   April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas   /\  /   \ / \ \ /   \/   >\< \ >\< \ Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age 11 -Ori

RE: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue

2004-01-06 Thread April Wells
Title: 11.5.8 AIX database tier clone issue Don't HAVE adadmin on my database tier   April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas   /\  /   \ / \ \ /   \/   >\< \ >\< \ Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam W

RE: sql trace - forward attribution

2004-01-06 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
you may not be seeing parse etc entries for cursor #0 merely because maybe by design, cursor#0 gets invoked before trace gets activated. This way, you will never get cursor #0 info. You can tell, I am guessing but to get similar experience, start trace in an already active session and you'll se

RE: Rocks, anyone?

2004-01-06 Thread Jesse, Rich
Thought I'd throw this out again now that more of the list is back from holiday... -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 12:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anyone messed with Rocks (http://www.rocksclusters.org) in an Oracle capacity? Rich Rich Jesse

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