Re: Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread Jim March
Lemme clarify what's going on, as much as I can at the moment. We have an opportunity to make a real difference in elections...on a national scale. I'll be able to outline what's up in more detail Thursday, in a fairly short fashion. This isn't just about doing a presentation at ABLEConf...it's

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread Lyle Tuttle
At 04:59 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: der.hans wrote: > Am 07. Sep, 2009 schwätzte Jim March so: > >> Hans, I might be able to come up and give a short intro for that >> otherwise-secret-so-far project for ABLEConf? Five minutes tops. > > That would be cool. We actively want a short, ad hoc presentat

Re: OT: What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels?

2009-09-07 Thread fouldragon
The square grate with the bowties on top. Sold under many names with 2, 4, or 8 bowties. I have a $23-or-so delivered from Amazon one with 2 bowties, and get all Phoenix channels (incl. 7.x) from near Red Mountain. It IS position-dependent. Put a nail or two on the wall and slide the antenna

Re: OT: What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels?

2009-09-07 Thread fouldragon
The square grate with the bowties on top. Sold under many names with 2, 4, or 8 bowties. I have a $23-or-so delivered from Amazon one with 2 bowties, and get all Phoenix channels (incl. 7.x) from near Red Mountain. It IS position-dependent. Put a nail or two on the wall and slide the antenna

Re: gcc and glibc

2009-09-07 Thread Nathan England
> Hey Nathan - How'R ya? > > slamd supposedly has the fixed glibc for various types of segfaults (Xlib, > swap, modprobe) due to some of the shared libraries issues (32/64 etc.) > > http://www.slamd64.com/ > > Neither LFS or BLFS recommend that you try to build or upgrade yourself: > > A Package M

Re: rsync and deleted files

2009-09-07 Thread Ryan Rix
Photorec and luck. Nathan England wrote: > > I plugged my USB drive into my system, ran my backup script and went to > supper. My backup script contains > > rsync -avz --delete-after /home/naubrey/ /media/320GB/naubrey/ > > > Usually, it works great. Problem is my /home/naubrey/ directory on m

rsync and deleted files

2009-09-07 Thread Nathan England
I plugged my USB drive into my system, ran my backup script and went to supper. My backup script contains rsync -avz --delete-after /home/naubrey/ /media/320GB/naubrey/ Usually, it works great. Problem is my /home/naubrey/ directory on my system was EMPTY and it wiped out my backup I just

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Jim March wrote: >> Would this perhaps have something to do with >> http://openvoting.org/ ? >> Might it be nice to include this somehow? > > This is on the right track, except WAY cooler :). > > Let's put it this way...picture something that could have mainstream > media coverage at ABLEConf, al

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread Lisa Kachold
Great Jim! I hope I can make it (it's not looking good). Can you podcast it please? On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Would this perhaps have something to do with > >http://openvoting.org/ ? > >Might it be nice to include this somehow? > > This is on th

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread Jim March
>Would this perhaps have something to do with >http://openvoting.org/ ? >Might it be nice to include this somehow? This is on the right track, except WAY cooler :). Let's put it this way...picture something that could have mainstream media coverage at ABLEConf, along with observers from political

Re: gcc and glibc

2009-09-07 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Nathan England wrote: > > I have recently rebuilt my systems using gcc 4.3.4 and glibc-2.10.1 and > I've had nothing but trouble since, especially with firefox and > thunderbird, neither of which seem to run for more than a minute before > segfaulting with NO inform

Re: gcc and glibc

2009-09-07 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
>> What would you use and why, or what do you use and why? I use whatever LFS says... :) Because I don't the time, the resources, the drive and the determination to run all the convenient tests by myself, and if I need help, someone else is using what I am using and the can relate to my problem

Re: PAM anyone?

2009-09-07 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
Well... I am even more confused now. As usual, every time I get cocky and look myself in the mirror to brag: "I *AM* really learning this crap", someone drops an anvil in my foot... When I am wearing sandals! RUINS THE PINK ACRYLICS IN MY TOENAILS!!! Ah, well... Anyhow, after I sorted out that

gcc and glibc

2009-09-07 Thread Nathan England
I have recently rebuilt my systems using gcc 4.3.4 and glibc-2.10.1 and I've had nothing but trouble since, especially with firefox and thunderbird, neither of which seem to run for more than a minute before segfaulting with NO information output at all... I'm curious, if you were to build a syst

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread Eric Shubert
der.hans wrote: > Am 07. Sep, 2009 schwätzte Jim March so: > >> Hans, I might be able to come up and give a short intro for that >> otherwise-secret-so-far project for ABLEConf? Five minutes tops. > > That would be cool. We actively want a short, ad hoc presentation at the > beginning of each me

Re: ABLEconf CFP soft deadline today

2009-09-07 Thread der.hans
Am 07. Sep, 2009 schwätzte Eric Shubert so: der.hans wrote: moin moin, get your ABLEconf presentation proposals in today to qualify for the early bird prize drawing. http://www.ABLEconf.com/2009/Phoenix/cfp Final deadline is 2009Okt05. ciao, der.hans Thanks for the reminder. I just sent

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread der.hans
Am 07. Sep, 2009 schwätzte Jim March so: Hans, I might be able to come up and give a short intro for that otherwise-secret-so-far project for ABLEConf? Five minutes tops. That would be cool. We actively want a short, ad hoc presentation at the beginning of each meeting, so this would fit well

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread der.hans
Am 07. Sep, 2009 schwätzte Matthew A Coulliette so: moin moin Matthew, I will be giving a short talk on ChatZilla which will conclude my Mozilla Series. After I have completed my class on OpenOffice.org, (and Cool. Would you add it to the event on the site? only after I have completed my cl

Re: OT: What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels?

2009-09-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Right. And that's 75 Ohm, not 750 hm (whatever an hm would be!). :) Eric Cope wrote: > Two important things > 1) Where are you located? Many TV channels broadcast from South Mountain > (east side). If you have a directional antenna, make sure its pointed in > the correct direction. > 2) Make sur

Re: ABLEconf CFP soft deadline today

2009-09-07 Thread Eric Shubert
der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > get your ABLEconf presentation proposals in today to qualify for the early > bird prize drawing. > > http://www.ABLEconf.com/2009/Phoenix/cfp > > Final deadline is 2009Okt05. > > ciao, > > der.hans Thanks for the reminder. I just sent one. -- -Eric 'shubes'

Re: Network Manager & Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > Joseph Sinclair wrote: > > The short answer is that, AFAIK, you cannot do what you want. > > Wait, what OS is this? Sure you can; patch it out and rebuild it :D > > -- > Ryan Rix > (623)-826-0051 > > Fortune: > Man belongs wherever he wants to go.

Re: OT: What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels?

2009-09-07 Thread Eric Cope
Two important things 1) Where are you located? Many TV channels broadcast from South Mountain (east side). If you have a directional antenna, make sure its pointed in the correct direction. 2) Make sure you are using the correect cable. Improper matching will kill you signal. If your antenna requir

Re: OT: What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels?

2009-09-07 Thread Jim March
hulu.com ? :) Jim On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Josef Lowder wrote: > What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels? > > I gave up cable years ago (too much money for too little worth > watching).  Tried dish and it was no better.  For a long time, we were > getting excellent

HackFest Series Goes to PRESENTATION ONLY - (Quarterly FEST Labs Only)

2009-09-07 Thread Lisa Kachold
Evidently there has been some confusion about the status of the security at the FBC Hackfests and PLUG status of continued Festing or for my participation? I am cogniscient of responsible process required for any LUG regular function, as was discussed with Hans and Alan D. when I promoted these mo

Re: OT: What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels?

2009-09-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Josef Lowder wrote: > What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels? > > I gave up cable years ago (too much money for too little worth > watching). Tried dish and it was no better. For a long time, we were > getting excellent reception from a simple $4.95 top-of-set antenna, > e

OT: What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels?

2009-09-07 Thread Josef Lowder
What is the best antenna for getting Phoenix area TV channels? I gave up cable years ago (too much money for too little worth watching). Tried dish and it was no better. For a long time, we were getting excellent reception from a simple $4.95 top-of-set antenna, even when we got a new Vizio HD T

Re: Network Manager & Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread Ryan Rix
Joseph Sinclair wrote: > The short answer is that, AFAIK, you cannot do what you want. Wait, what OS is this? Sure you can; patch it out and rebuild it :D -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: Man belongs wherever he wants to go. -- Wernher von Braun http://hackersramblings.wordp

Re: Network Manager & Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Matthew, The short answer is that, AFAIK, you cannot do what you want. NetworkManager is tied into the Gnome Keyring support, and won't let you manage your WiFi PSK yourself. The keyring is in Gnome (or KDE if you're using that desktop), NetworkManager just uses it (pretty much everything in t

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread Jim March
Hans, I might be able to come up and give a short intro for that otherwise-secret-so-far project for ABLEConf? Five minutes tops. Jim On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM, der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > do we have topics for the east side meeting this Thursday? > > ciao, > > der.hans > -- > #  http:

Re: Network Manager & Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread GK
I've found network manager, knet attach, wifi radar to just cause issues consistently for me two apps that are both ncurses but one is guified do great... the later runs wired and wifi likety split. Apps: Ceni Wicd You have to dump all your network values except for /etc/resolv.conf and i

Re: topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread Matthew A Coulliette
Hi Hans, I will be giving a short talk on ChatZilla which will conclude my Mozilla Series. After I have completed my class on OpenOffice.org, (and only after I have completed my class on OOo), I will volunteer to do a series on it for both E&WSMs. der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > do we have topi

Re: Network Manager & Keyring

2009-09-07 Thread Matthew A Coulliette
Hi Lisa, Lisa Kachold wrote: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=f5de5634f4448d733a599c23e4bb0257&p=2776815&postcount=1 This link did not help me. I want to remove all the keyrings, because I prefer to remember my passwords and enter them manually. The question is: how do I remove the keyrin

PAM anyone?

2009-09-07 Thread GK
Hey E. PAM bit ya huh. Ain't it the sh*t? Those look like straight X errors. Did you delete all your your old KDE, X, and all its lock files from your ~/ something is probably containmenated from the unstability. If you're up to the new X remember you don't need an xorg.conf file any longer unles

ABLEconf CFP soft deadline today

2009-09-07 Thread der.hans
moin moin, get your ABLEconf presentation proposals in today to qualify for the early bird prize drawing. http://www.ABLEconf.com/2009/Phoenix/cfp Final deadline is 2009Okt05. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.ABLEconf.com/ # Director of Engineering, FonWallet T

Re: Invisible Text

2009-09-07 Thread Matthew A Coulliette
Hi Benjamin, Benjamin Francom wrote: > If compiz is enabled, try turning it off. I uninstalled anything with Compiz in the name, using Synaptic. This did not fix it completely, however, it is about 90% better. Thanks. MatthewMPP --- PLUG-discuss m

topics for east side this Thursday?

2009-09-07 Thread der.hans
moin moin, do we have topics for the east side meeting this Thursday? ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.ABLEconf.com/ # Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. # ABLEconf: Saturday, 2009Okt24, Tempe. Call for Presentations now open. # "I h

HackFest Series: microsoft.ba pwned again!

2009-09-07 Thread Lisa Kachold
http://www.microsoft.ba -- (623)239-3392 (503)754-4452 www.obnosis.com http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/gnu-people.jpg --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail sett

Re: MediaWiki causes me to ragequit

2009-09-07 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hi Ryan! On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > Hey PLUGgers, > Let's call in the Anonymous_Group: http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/anonymous5.jpg ! No seriously > Today the ABLEconf internal wiki was hit pretty hard by spammers. :( > > We looked at how to protect the p