Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Stephan Deibel
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Aahz wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2004, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > >Attribution deleted: > >> > >> No one disagrees that Python needs better marketing material. At the > >> last PyCon a group of people sat down in a pydotorg BoF and agreed > >> that yes, we do need a management-fr

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Keith Dart
A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 03:32:03PM -0200, Carlos Ribeiro wrote: Of course, the point here is not Perl-bashing. The point here is that we should be able to "sell" Python better than we do now, even without the need to resort to such poor measures. I'm sure the Python community d

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Python in education

2004-12-15 Thread Brett C.
Terry Reedy wrote: "Randy Chung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SNIP] I'm interested in using actual bugs in Python as exercises Please consider including review of existing patches. Besides being useful, it will also teach students how to submit good patches of t

Re: [Python-Dev] MinGW And The other Py2.4 issue

2004-12-15 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
Paul Moore wrote: For a starter, what steps do you actually take to build a release? I assume that the first step is to build Python, by clicking on "build" in VS.NET. Yes. You can skip this step by just putting all the .pyds, dlls, and .exes into the PCbuild directory. The packaging will try to p

[Python-Dev] Re: Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Reedy
For a subsite aimed at businesses, business.python.org is obvious and easily remembered. Not all businesses are corporations. 'about' and 'why' are not specific at all. I think such a subsite, linked from the main site also, would be a good idea. It should explain both why (including success

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Dennis Allison
Ummm... I don't think that anyone looks for information by trolling subdomain names. If I am looking for python information, I go to www.python.org or python.org. I would never guess "business.python.org". Seems to me that what we need is content and let the search engines bring on the masses.

[Python-Dev] Re: Python in education

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Reedy
"Randy Chung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi everyone, > > I'm going to be leading a class on Python at the University of > California, Berkeley next semester (starting in January). Great. > I'm interested in using actual bugs in Python as exercises Please

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004, Gregory P. Smith wrote: >Attribution deleted: >> >> No one disagrees that Python needs better marketing material. At the >> last PyCon a group of people sat down in a pydotorg BoF and agreed >> that yes, we do need a management-friendly marketing site, and that we >> could p

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 07:32, Nick Coghlan wrote: > about.python.org? > > And if someone ends up playing with the DNS server, maybe they could add > wiki.python.org while they're at it :) DNS changes have to go through pydotorg at python.org, since Thomas is the person currently able to add host

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Nick Coghlan
Oleg Broytmann wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:21:58PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: suggested hostname: why.python.org It's only a matter of taste, probably, but that looks a bit ugly for my eyes. May be use.python.org? corp.python.org? about.python.org? And if someone ends up playing with

[Python-Dev] Python in education

2004-12-15 Thread Randy Chung
Hi everyone, I'm going to be leading a class on Python at the University of California, Berkeley next semester (starting in January). I'm interested in using actual bugs in Python as exercises for the class, the goal being 1) to give the students something "real" to work with, and 2) to (hopef

Re: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places

2004-12-15 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:21:58PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > suggested hostname: why.python.org It's only a matter of taste, probably, but that looks a bit ugly for my eyes. May be use.python.org? corp.python.org? Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmannhttp://phd.pp.ru/[EM

Re: [Python-Dev] MinGW And The other Py2.4 issue

2004-12-15 Thread Paul Moore
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:48:41 +0100, Martin v. Löwis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand that one still needs to build libpython24.a in order to > use this process. As I have said, I'd happily ship that file with the > 2.4.1 MSI, unless the release manager tells me that this would an > unaccep