Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-26 Thread MaxTheMouse
On Nov 26, 1:13 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:26:31 -0800 (PST), Mark Tolonen > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > > > Changing the application defaults is now in "Default Programs" right > > on the Start Menu.  It's more "obvious" than the old locat

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-25 Thread Mark Tolonen
On Nov 25, 11:52 am, Sibylle Koczian wrote: > Am 25.11.2011 01:16, schrieb Steven D'Aprano: > > > As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has > > chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE > > doesn't show up, so we have no way of telling whethe

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-25 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 25.11.2011 05:49, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:32:08 +0100, Alexander Kapps declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: The main difference here is, that Linux makes it easy to seperate administrative accounts from end-user accounts, So does Win7... He

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-25 Thread Sibylle Koczian
Am 25.11.2011 01:16, schrieb Steven D'Aprano: As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE doesn't show up, so we have no way of telling whether it doesn't show up due to a lack in the installer, or be

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-25 Thread MaxTheMouse
On Nov 24, 10:49 pm, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On 25 Nov 2011 00:16:06 GMT, Steven D'Aprano > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > > > As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has > > chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that I

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On 25 Nov 2011 00:04:04 GMT, Steven D'Aprano > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > > >> My Linux system includes compilers or interpreters for C, Pascal, >> Haskell, Forth, Python, Ruby, PHP, Javascript, Java, bash,

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:06:24 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 11/24/2011 7:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 >> has chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE >> doesn't show up, > > On the contrary, back

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/24/2011 7:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE doesn't show up, On the contrary, back when he first posted, I stated that 64-bit Python 3.2.2 on my 64-bit

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 25.11.2011 01:04, Steven D'Aprano wrote: So by your reasoning, that's at least 20 ways to infect my Linux system. I never realised just how insecure Linux must be! Yes, there are 20+ ways to "infect" your (and mine) Linux system. You cannot trust *any* kind of 3rd party code. Period. Hav

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:18:44 +0100, Alexander Kapps wrote: > Now, we are talking about Python 3.2.* on Win7, correct? I only have > Win7 32bit in a VBox VM, but still. I believe that W. eWatson's problems occurred when he installed a 32-bit version of Python 3.2 on a 64-bit version of Windows 7.

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:25:23 -0600, Tony the Tiger wrote: > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:43:20 -0800, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> Windows PowerShell includes more than one hundred basic core cmdlets, >> and you can write your own cmdlets and share them with other users. > > Oh, goodie! They've found

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 25.11.2011 00:18, Alexander Kapps wrote: Do you get an "Edit with IDLE" then? And even if not. Why are you so obsessive about IDLE? I mean, seriously, IDLE is just a bare-level if-nothing-else-is-available editor/IDE. It's better than notepad, OK. I really don't buy it, that your are wi

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 24.11.2011 22:22, W. eWatson wrote: Whoops, I thought I was replying to Matt Meyers just above you. Above who? As said by somebody already, most people use a mail-client (Thunderbird/Outlook) or a Usenet client to read this forum. Google Groups is (In My Opinion at least) just crap (and s

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/23/2011 10:29 AM, Arnaud Delobelle wrote: On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatson wrote: [...] It may be time to move on to c++. Good Luck. Bye! "We, pardn meee." -- Steve Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread W. eWatson
Whoops, I thought I was replying to Matt Meyers just above you. However, I think he chimed in above about ActiveState back on the 22nd. In any case, I think this thread has ceased to be productive. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/23/2011 2:29 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote: So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at an end. It may be time to move on to c++. C++ is a ton of fun. You haven't lived until you've made a syntax error in a template instanti

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Michael Torrie
On 11/22/2011 09:14 AM, W. eWatson wrote: > On 11/21/2011 7:00 PM, alex23 wrote: >> "W. eWatson" wrote: >>> Comments? >> >> Please don't start multiple threads on the same issue. > Your joking, right, or do you just prefer 500 line threads wandering all > over the place? Most of us use threaded

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Matt Joiner
Moving to C++ is _always_ a step backwards. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Alan Meyer wrote: > On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote: >> >> So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at >> an end. >> >> It may be time to move on to c++. >> > > C++ is a ton of fun.

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Alan Meyer
On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote: So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at an end. It may be time to move on to c++. C++ is a ton of fun. You haven't lived until you've made a syntax error in a template instantiation and seen a hundred cascading error

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Ben Finney
Arnaud Delobelle writes: > On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatson wrote: > [...] > > It may be time to move on to c++. > > Good Luck. Bye! Sadly, IME it's most often the case that the person who threatens to leave with just about every message will instead stick around a long time, repeating th

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Sibylle Koczian
Am 23.11.2011 04:45, schrieb Alan Meyer: On 11/22/2011 3:05 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:29:18 -0500, Alan Meyer declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: ... 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE inte

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatson wrote: [...] > It may be time to move on to c++. Good Luck. Bye! -- Arnaud -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread W. eWatson
So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at an end. It may be time to move on to c++. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/22/2011 10:43 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:46:01 -0800, "W. eWatson" declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Of course, Dennis' C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe wouldn't work either. If you didn't install an ActiveStat

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Anssi Saari
Dennis Lee Bieber writes: >> c:\Python32 Start in, and for Target: Python 3.2.2 (64-bit) > > Which tells me that the TARGET field is garbaged, since THAT is what > specifies the program (and arguments) that has to be run when the > shortcut is double-clicked. Actually, no, it's what I have

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/22/2011 7:29 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Alan Meyer wrote: On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: ... 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE interpreter. ... On my system that's C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe Alan OK, I'm going

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread Alan Meyer
On 11/22/2011 3:05 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:29:18 -0500, Alan Meyer declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: ... 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE interpreter. ... On my system that's C:\P

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Alan Meyer wrote: On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: ... 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE interpreter. ... On my system that's C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe Alan OK, I'm going to try it soon. Keeping my fingers crossed

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/22/2011 1:01 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: c:\Python32 Start in, and for Target: Python 3.2.2 (64-bit) Which tells me that the TARGET field is garbaged, The above is exactly what my IDLE shortcut target field says, and it works fine. since THAT is what specifies the program

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread Alan Meyer
On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: ... 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE interpreter. ... On my system that's C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 11/22/2011 04:14 PM, W. eWatson wrote: > Your joking, right, or do you just prefer 500 line threads wandering > all over the place? I would personally prefer to just not see useless discussions about Windows set up in a python mailing list, but I guess it's a price to pay for the popularity of

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread Alan Meyer
On 11/21/2011 11:39 AM, W. eWatson wrote: My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file. So far no response on this has solved the problem. ... I don't know what responses you're referring to since this is the first

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/21/2011 7:00 PM, alex23 wrote: "W. eWatson" wrote: Comments? Please don't start multiple threads on the same issue. Your joking, right, or do you just prefer 500 line threads wandering all over the place? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/21/2011 3:07 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/21/2011 11:39 AM, W. eWatson wrote: My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file. Your first criterion for success should be that IDLE runs at all, which is apparently

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/21/2011 11:21 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:39:37 -0800, "W. eWatson" declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file. So far no respons

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-21 Thread alex23
"W. eWatson" wrote: > Comments? Please don't start multiple threads on the same issue. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/21/2011 11:39 AM, W. eWatson wrote: My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file. Your first criterion for success should be that IDLE runs at all, which is apparently does not. How you run it is secondary. R

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-21 Thread Cousin Stanley
W. eWatson wrote: > My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor > on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file. > > So far no response on this has solved the problem. > As an alternative you might consider adding a short-cut to IDLE to the Send To di

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-21 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 11/21/2011 04:39 PM, W. eWatson wrote: ... I'm using Win 7 Premium. So unless some brilliant idea appears, that leaves me with the choice of not using Python or this suggestion... (Let's not get off into other variations of other "Pythons" like Active..."): Someone suggested using the mai

What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-21 Thread W. eWatson
My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file. So far no response on this has solved the problem. I know it sets up that way on a 2.5 and 2.4 on other PCs I have. I know at one time it worked on my 64-bit Win 7 PC,