Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/6/16 NoiseEHC : > I think you do not get what is so "special" with Android. > > 1. They killed the braindamaged X driver model and put the driver where it > belongs, the kernel. Just like Windows NT and OS-X already did. Finally it > is fast and really supports hardware acceleration! Did I men

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-16 Thread NoiseEHC
I think you do not get what is so "special" with Android. 1. They killed the braindamaged X driver model and put the driver where it belongs, the kernel. Just like Windows NT and OS-X already did. Finally it is fast and really supports hardware acceleration! Did I mention that it has redraw pr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:33 PM, NoiseEHC wrote: > The real deal is that Android will be pushed by all the carriers and ARM > vendors. In my humble opinion it will be the dominant phone OS in the > future with even more hardware support the good thing is that android is based on the linux kernel,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC : > >> There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ >> Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. >> >> Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could >> get them to at least say whether they

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
> There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ > Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. > > Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could > get them to at least say whether they're working on it? > htt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC : > >> My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible >> language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they >> will add more languages, though. >> > > Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities > consists of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
> My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible > language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they > will add more languages, though. > Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities consists of <1000 lines of code. > A mor

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they will add more languages, though. A more long term solution would be using PyPy, since it has significantly lower memory usage and better optimisation prospec

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
> Technologically the phone and the computer are quickly converging. > They are just coming at the problem from different points of view. > Phones focus on power consumption and size. Netbooks focus on screen > size and general use computing. > > If the new ARM technology is as good inside device

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > ===Sugar Digest=== > > 1. It seems that once per month the computer vs. phone debate > reemerges. This time, http://edutechdebate.org/ has taken up the > theme. Wayan Vota posed the question: Mobile Phones: Better Learning > Tools than Comput