Re: [Tagging] layer=-1, rivers, bridges and tunnels

@Andy "I have discovered a bunch of rivers and streams with layer=-1 in my local area. In my opinion this is simply wrong, so I am removing the layer tag from the river and checking for objects which cross the river (to tag them with layer=1." I have done this a bit myself. I came across a river

Re: [Tagging] layer=-1, rivers, bridges and tunnels

I have discovered a bunch of rivers and streams with layer=-1 in my local area. In my opinion this is simply wrong, so I am removing the layer tag from the river and checking for objects which cross the river (to tag them with layer=1. Best wishes, Andrew On 02/04/2014, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] layer=-1, rivers, bridges and tunnels

The present situation is that rivers implicitly render below highways in all common renderings. That's not necessarily bad. With some formality to the layering arrangement, it sure would save a lot of tagging hassle and maintenance. The new cloud tag for example, is clearly to be rendered after e

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

On 2014-04-01 23:17, Tobias Knerr wrote : > On 01.04.2014 19:04, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> I commend this proposal to the list: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata > I like Wikidata and therefore want to see this proposal approved. :) > What I'm interested in, though: If

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

On 2014-04-01 17:29, Andy Mabbett wrote : Hello everyone, This is my first post to the list, which I've just joined, but I've been a mapper for a few years and some of you might remember me as compere at last year's State of the Map. Yesterday, I met with the W3Cs

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

On 2014-04-01 19:08, Pierre Knobel wrote : > Hi all, > > I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the > talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. > > I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dclou

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I commend this proposal to the list: > >https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata > I support wikidata=* itself. I'm not so sure about operator:wikidata=* (or wikidata:operator=* as suggested on the wiki talk page) an

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:25:03PM -0500, Clay Smalley wrote: > Sounds about right, but add layer=* tags where appropriate. Clouds go above > the land, so we have to make sure they render above everything (except > certain bridges and buildings). Might as well add layer=5 to all of them > for good

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-01 22:17 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr : > On 01.04.2014 19:04, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> I commend this proposal to the list: >> >>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata > > I like Wikidata and therefore want to see this proposal approved. :) > > What I'm interested in, t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

> > If an object exists both in Wikipedia > and Wikidata, would you expect both tags to be used? Wikipedia links can > be obtained from the Wikidata API for a given Wikidata ID and vice > versa, so one of the two would suffice. > It might seem redundant but the key wikipedia shouldn't be removed w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

On 01.04.2014 19:04, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I commend this proposal to the list: > >https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata I like Wikidata and therefore want to see this proposal approved. :) What I'm interested in, though: If an object exists both in Wikipedia and Wik

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > The model used there fails with Wikipedia links, > expressed as "en:Example", because the equivalent URL is > . Any suggestions for dealing > with that? > > [...] ambiguous keys ("ref=1234" - ref in whose

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

On 4/1/14 1:01 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I'd be happy to do that; what do others think? While semantically > correct, I think more mapper might understand "URL". is it a URI or a URL? if it's strictly a URL, that's fine, URL as a term is not deprecated, it's merely a subset of URI. but if you inte

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

On 1 Apr 2014 19:08, "Pierre Knobel" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. > > I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dclou

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

Rendering for natural=cloud has been added to the "FR" rendering: http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=15&lat=48.63541&lon=-1.51142&layers=B000FFT white = non rainy cloud dark = rainy cloud 2014-04-01 19:25 GMT+02:00 Clay Smalley : > Sounds about right, but add layer=* tags where approp

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

Pierre Knobel wrote on Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:08:01 +0200: >I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the >talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. > >I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud >

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

Sounds about right, but add layer=* tags where appropriate. Clouds go above the land, so we have to make sure they render above everything (except certain bridges and buildings). Might as well add layer=5 to all of them for good measure. On Apr 1, 2014 12:16 PM, "Matthijs Melissen" wrote: > On 1

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 19:14 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen : > On 1 April 2014 18:08, Pierre Knobel wrote: > > I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud > > I think this is tag a very good idea. Clouds are very noticeable > features in th

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

On Tuesday 01 April 2014, Pierre Knobel wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the > talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. > > I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3D

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

I see the problem, it's tricky. Maybe we've hit the boundaries of what it is possible to achieve with nodes, ways and relations. Maybe we should ask the developers to add a new type of object that would be more suitable for this situation. It would need to be diffuse, span over several layers and e

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

I am hoping this has something to do with it being April 1st On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 1 April 2014 18:08, Pierre Knobel wrote: > > I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud > > I

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

On 1 April 2014 18:08, Pierre Knobel wrote: > I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud I think this is tag a very good idea. Clouds are very noticeable features in the landscape. I just have some concerns about layering. How

[Tagging] natural=cloud

Hi all, I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud I was quite surprised that there wasn't already a ta

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

I commend this proposal to the list: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listin

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

On 1 April 2014 17:31, Dan S wrote: > 2014-04-01 16:29 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett : >> last year's State of the Map. > > And well done indeed! Thank you. >> I've just modified [[Template:KeyDescription]] by adding >> two parameters: >> for "website" and "url_pattern" > Tell me if I've misunderst

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

Hi Andy, 2014-04-01 16:29 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett : > Hello everyone, > > This is my first post to the list, which I've just joined, but I've > been a mapper for a few years and some of you might remember me as > compere at last year's State of the Map. And well done indeed! > Yesterday, I met wi

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

Could the more general description found for "mountain hut" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_hut be used in the context of "alpine_hut" as this would make it more universal. This would then cover the "climbing huts" found in the UK as described in the wikipedia article. Additional tags

[Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

Hello everyone, This is my first post to the list, which I've just joined, but I've been a mapper for a few years and some of you might remember me as compere at last year's State of the Map. Yesterday, I met with the W3Cs' "data on the web best practice" working group. At their request, I gave

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 08:01:01AM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I think a link to shelter:type would be a good addition to the Map > Features; Tourism page for further choices when tagging wilderness > shelters. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter_type. Note that > this page throws

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 4:20 GMT+02:00 fly : > > Wikipedia shows several huts of the type I mean here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness_hut .Their definition says these > > are free — that is not the case in Alaska but is mostly true elsewhere > > in the U.S. AFAIK > > We have access=* and fee=* to

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

In the old days when the term was first brought into use in the Adirondack Mountains, it was just that, a bunch of spruce branches leaning against a tree. At any rate, they are common features in the eastern American wilderness regions. See this link about lean-tos on the Appalachian Trail http:

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

On 01/04/2014 02:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: Fly mentioned shelter_type just now — another type of wilderness accommodation is a basic shelter called a lean-to, a rough three sided, roofed shelter, open to the elements on one side. That's an odd use of the word 'lean-to'. Yes, a lean-to is a th