Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > > By co-incidence, I was in contact with another mapper who's been doing > > something like this to make low zoom osmarender rendering a bit > > prettier. What's everybody's opinion of this kind of practice? Is it > > not an example of compromising the data (which we want to endure) to > > w

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > And I ask: what is the value of the `id' attribute of the object in > question when the ID hasn't been assigned yet? Today I know the answer So why not just put it in the Wiki? Every misunderstanding that is subsequently resolved is a chance to improve our documentation. I've added a not

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Let me repeat onece more: > * the DTDs say IDs are *required* True, that should perhaps be changed. Sadly, the only way to do it 100% correct is to create an individual DTD for each of the operations and we don't want that because it makes the whole thing too complicated. > * no paragraph

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmosis and Bounding Boxes

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, >If your goal is to have the results of all three bounding boxes in one >file, you could tee the output of each bounding box, write one to a file, >then pass the other to a merge task, then write out that merged set. It >would be a complex command line but it should be possible

[OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, we (that's Y.T. and the folks on talk-de) have created an OSM flyer that we can hand out to folks who ask us what we're doing. The flyer is DIN A7 sized (74mm wide and 105mm high) and has 8 pages (8 pages sounds a lot but it's just one stripe of paper 105mm high and 296mm wide, zig-zag fo

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-19 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 18, 2008 11:21 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > By co-incidence, I was in contact with another mapper who's been doing > > > something like this to make low zoom osmarender rendering a bit > > > prettier. What's everybody's opinion of this kind of practice? Is it >

[OSM-talk] Announcing a controllable Audio player and synchronisation with continuous sound tracks in JOSM

2008-02-19 Thread David Earl
Today's JOSM build (549) contains some much improved audio handling. In particular, you can now use your dictaphone to record one long continuous audio file while you're surveying, collect waypoints on your GPS, and then in JOSM synchronise the audio with the waypoints and play each from waypoi

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 18, 2008 9:01 PM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've created an openlayers slippy map here (the tiles are via kosmos): > http://www.livingwithdragons.com/maps/slippytest.php > > And if you click on any of the pub symbols, you get a pop up (well text > displaying at the side on the pa

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Feb 18, 2008 4:46 PM, Keith Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is great! Any chance of a write up on how you did this? It involves a GPS, two bits of string, a barometer and a long weekend walking in circles around every hillside in the country... In reality, it's fairly easy, and is ba

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Feb 18, 2008 10:09 PM, Martin Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you think about rendering amenity:shelter on the highest zoom > level(z13)? I thinnkthis could be useful on a cycle map and there are already > many of these features in OSM. Sure. Give me a couple of photos of what they

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Feb 18, 2008 11:21 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > By co-incidence, I was in contact with another mapper who's been doing > > > something like this to make low zoom osmarender rendering a bit > > > prettier. What's everybody's opinion of this kind of practice? Is it >

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-19 Thread Martin Simon
2008/2/19, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Feb 18, 2008 10:09 PM, Martin Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What do you think about rendering amenity:shelter on the highest zoom > > level(z13)? I thinnkthis could be useful on a cycle map and there are > > already > > many of these feature

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-19 Thread Sven Grüner
Martijn van Oosterhout schrieb: >> Thing is if you look at the code(line 70+) you'll see I'm manually entering >> in the lat/lon box where each symbol appears. Not ideal, especially when the >> POI are in the map data. > > You need something on the server to get the POI data on the fly as in: > h

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 19, 2008 10:39 AM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could politely encourage everyone to figure out where the bug in > the rendering is, and either file trac ticket or submit a patch. The > more details, examples, clarity of explanation and so on the better. Indeed, we have been

Re: [OSM-talk] place=country/nation/state

2008-02-19 Thread Abigail Brady
On Feb 19, 2008 1:03 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example: here in Spain, the NUTS1 level is an artificial > classification. > Nobody in spain would use that. > And in the UK, NUTS-2 and NUTS-3 at least are artificial classifications that nobody would use. Seriously,

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-19 Thread Gregory
On 19/02/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 18, 2008 9:01 PM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've created an openlayers slippy map here (the tiles are via kosmos): > > http://www.livingwithdragons.com/maps/slippytest.php > > > > And if you click on any of th

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 19, 2008 1:17 PM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So do you have the source code of > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~kleptog/pois/pois.php (or an equal example) > available somewhere? Sure: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~kleptog/pois/pois.php.txt It just calls a perl script, 'cause dev c

[OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Ben Laenen
If the person who's in charge of the planet extracts at http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/ is reading this: they're not in sync anymore with the current OSM data since yesterday (well, at least those of Belgium are out of sync, haven't tested the other ones). It looks like the data hasn't

Re: [OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > If the person who's in charge of the planet extracts at > http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/ is reading this: they're not > in sync anymore with the current OSM data since yesterday (well, at > least those of Belgium are out of sync, haven't tested the other > ones). Martijn's right

Re: [OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 19, 2008 2:09 PM, Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the person who's in charge of the planet extracts at > http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/ is reading this: they're not > in sync anymore with the current OSM data since yesterday (well, at > least those of Belgium are out of

[OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC - skyhook

2008-02-19 Thread Stephen Gower
I don't think there was a formal announcement here when the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Skyhook was made. Please comment on this proposal which will be opened for voting two weeks from now, if appropriate. Best wishes s

[OSM-talk] 500 error

2008-02-19 Thread Maning Sambale
Hi, Are there any server problems? I can't seem to download my usual area. It returns an http 500 error at http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.541720229896098&mlon=121.02042159290963&zoom=9 cheers, maning ___ talk mailing list talk@open

Re: [OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I'm currently fixing the problem using a synthesized diff that Dodi sent me (thanks!). > I can work it out with JOSM, but it takes a very long time to "prepare > the data". Maybe I should work out a way to merge two raw osm xml > files... Osmosis can do that. Bye Frederik __

Re: [OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 19 February 2008, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > Can this be fixed please? It's by far the easiest method to > > download big areas at once. > > There's osmxapi if you really need it? osmxapi isn't an option for me, as it doesn't return the relations, and that's exactly what I'm pla

Re: [OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben Laenen schrieb: > On Tuesday 19 February 2008, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: >>> Can this be fixed please? It's by far the easiest method to >>> download big areas at once. >> There's osmxapi if you really need it? > > osmxapi isn't an option for

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing a controllable Audio player and synchronisation with continuous sound tracks in JOSM

2008-02-19 Thread David Earl
On 19/02/2008 09:50, David Earl wrote: > (***) I'm not sure this is doing 10 seconds at the moment - I will look > at this. This was OK. However, there _was_ a timing problem when synchronizing to a point other than the first one in a layer, now fixed ready for tomorrow's build There is also a

Re: [OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Dodi
Missing daily diff for 20080216-20080217 composed from hourly diff using osmosis is avialable at http://www.freemap.sk/daily-20080216-20080217.osc.bz2 :P Dodi - Original Message - From: "Frederik Ramm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ben Laenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, Feb

Re: [OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If the person who's in charge of the planet extracts at >> http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/ is reading this: they're not >> in sync anymore with the current OSM data since yesterday (well, at >> least those

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-19 Thread Jo
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > >>> By co-incidence, I was in contact with another mapper who's been doing >>> something like this to make low zoom osmarender rendering a bit >>> prettier. What's everybody's opinion of this kind of practice? Is it >>> not an example of compromising the data (whic

[OSM-talk] 500 error

2008-02-19 Thread Maning Sambale
It ok now. maning ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-19 Thread Alex Mauer
Lester Caine wrote: > Alex Mauer wrote: >> I've added a decision tree to the physical section of the page, as well >> as removed the "boulevard" designation (since it didn't really add much) >> >> I'd like to have some more comments from the UK and german end, as to >> whether or not A and B road

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Alex Mauer wrote: >Sent: 18 February 2008 11:16 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and >physical descriptions > >I've added a decision tree to the physical section of the page, as well >as removed the "boulevard" designation (since

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-19 Thread Lester Caine
Alex Mauer wrote: > Lester Caine wrote: >> Alex Mauer wrote: >>> I've added a decision tree to the physical section of the page, as well >>> as removed the "boulevard" designation (since it didn't really add much) >>> >>> I'd like to have some more comments from the UK and german end, as to >>> w

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-19 Thread wiseLYNX
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >we (that's Y.T. and the folks on talk-de) have created an OSM flyer > that we can hand out to folks who ask us what we're doing. [snip] > The design has been done in Inkscape, and all the raw material and a > README file is in SVN under > > /misc/pr_material/ger

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-19 Thread Jo
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >we (that's Y.T. and the folks on talk-de) have created an OSM flyer > that we can hand out to folks who ask us what we're doing. > > The flyer is DIN A7 sized (74mm wide and 105mm high) and has 8 pages > (8 pages sounds a lot but it's just one stripe of paper 105m

[OSM-talk] Open Knowledge 2008, Saturday March 15th, LSE, London

2008-02-19 Thread jo
dear all, I hope this event may be of interest to those in the OSM community able to be in London mid-March. Presentations include MySociety's latest "time travel maps" project using OpenStreetmap base data (the 2006 version was using Ordnance Survey mapping). The afternoon features a panel on "L

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-19 Thread Keith Sharp
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 09:34 +, Andy Allan wrote: > On Feb 18, 2008 4:46 PM, Keith Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is great! Any chance of a write up on how you did this? > > It involves a GPS, two bits of string, a barometer and a long weekend > walking in circles around every h

Re: [OSM-talk] Backup / mirror capacity needs

2008-02-19 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Martijn van Exel wrote: Just my personal opinion... > First thing that springs to mind is mirror capacity for the planet > dumps (possibly with more retention). > Questions: > * Do we need extra mirror capacity for the planet dumps? We have heanet.ie as a mirror, I guess they are pretty good a

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-19 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > I don't have photos now, because I'm at work http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzhütte Image two shows a typical one IMO. Best regards, ce ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tal

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-19 Thread Alex Mauer
Lester Caine wrote: >> Hmm, that's not what I was going for. I was going for the >> "administrative designation" of the road (that is, M, A, B [I gather] in >> the UK, I-, US, [state abbrev] in the US) . In the US this is closely >> tied to who maintains it. In Europe it seems to be much more

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-19 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: It's a whole lot easier to add additional tags that are logical and describe the physical properties of the highway specifically. For the physical you might have: 1. The number of lanes -- (lanes=) 2. The lane width (standardised in most countries). Or a measur

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-19 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Alex Mauer wrote: And a polish commenter says "There are four categories: * state, classes A, S, GP and sometimes G * voivodship, classes G, Z, sometimes GP * powiat (county), classes G, Z, sometimes L * gmina (commune), classes L, D, sometimes Z" Again, it fits very well (

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > impressive job! if you could provide me an english translation, I'd be > glad to do an italian version (maybe with updated images from an italian > city). I have checked in a file named TRANSLATION which contains an English version of the texts. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering Quarries

2008-02-19 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Erik Johansson wrote: On Feb 18, 2008 7:39 PM, Karl Eichwalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: landuse=quarry |- -| |- -| |- -| |- -| |- -| I would like those "saw tooth" lines to signify a ste

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-19 Thread Colin Marquardt
Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > PS: I like Inkscape a lot, but whenever I do stuff for printing I run > into those nasty CMYK problems. Inkscape creates RGB PDFs, printers > want CMYK PDFs. You can auto-convert them but without a calibrated > screen or printer you never know how it's g

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC - skyhook

2008-02-19 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Stephen Gower skrev: > I don't think there was a formal announcement here when the > proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Skyhook > was made. Please comment on this proposal which will be opened for > voting two weeks from now, if appropriate. > > Best wi

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-19 Thread Colin Marquardt
"Dave Stubbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Feb 18, 2008 11:21 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> > > By co-incidence, I was in contact with another mapper who's been doing >> > > something like this to make low zoom osmarender rendering a bit >> > > prettier. What's ever

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-19 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > Yeah, it's not there yet. The often-suggested way ist to load the > finished SVG file into Scribus which does CMYK properly. wasn't scribus an excellent candidate to design the flyer completely anyway? Best regards, ce ___ talk mailing list ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippymap Hosting Recommendations

2008-02-19 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Ramm schrieb: > mkdir my-new-dir > mount -o loop ./my-large-file my-new-dir (needs root privs) > > There you are, a new file system under my-new-dir. And if you specify > "-T news" when making your ext3 filesystem (or use a Reiser fs right

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Deconstructing the "loss of data" claim

2008-02-19 Thread Andy Robinson
On 19/02/2008, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > >I am unhappy about the much-iterated claim that we would lose a lot > of data if we were to go PD (or CC0, or a similar non-virulent > license). > > Quite honestly, I think this claim is bordering on what you call > "FUD" - fear,

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-19 Thread Alex S.
Lester Caine wrote: > I don't think it applies so much elsewhere - but UK motorways have no > pedestrian access - does the same apply on any American routes? US freeways (interstate, etc) do not allow foot traffic, in general. Outside of cities, however, cycles are allowed (inside of cities ther

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > > Yeah, it's not there yet. The often-suggested way ist to load the > > finished SVG file into Scribus which does CMYK properly. > > wasn't scribus an excellent candidate to design the flyer completely > anyway? Last time I looked at it it balked on a complex SVG created with Inkscape; I t

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-19 Thread Karl Newman
On Feb 19, 2008 3:16 PM, Alex S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lester Caine wrote: > > I don't think it applies so much elsewhere - but UK motorways have no > > pedestrian access - does the same apply on any American routes? > > US freeways (interstate, etc) do not allow foot traffic, in general. >

[OSM-talk] Screencasts

2008-02-19 Thread SteveC
I've done two screencast intros to OSM, one general and one potlatch. http://showmedo.com/videos/series?name=mS2P1ZqS6 I'll add some more if there is a positive response. I'm guessing they'll be useful to newbies. have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ __

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-19 Thread Alex S.
Frederik Ramm wrote: > I don't really know where (in an ideal world) Scribus would fit in the > toolchain. Would you write your text with OO and make your bitmaps > with the Gimp and vector graphics with Inkscape and then use Scribus > to put it all together? That's about right.

Re: [OSM-talk] Screencasts

2008-02-19 Thread Andy Robinson
On 19/02/2008, SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've done two screencast intros to OSM, one general and one potlatch. > > http://showmedo.com/videos/series?name=mS2P1ZqS6 > > I'll add some more if there is a positive response. I'm guessing > they'll be useful to newbies. > > have fun, > > SteveC

Re: [OSM-talk] Screencasts

2008-02-19 Thread Gregory
On 19/02/2008, Andy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 19/02/2008, SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've done two screencast intros to OSM, one general and one potlatch. > > > > http://showmedo.com/videos/series?name=mS2P1ZqS6 > > > > I'll add some more if there is a positive response.

Re: [OSM-talk] Screencasts

2008-02-19 Thread Tom Higgy
SteveC wrote: > I've done two screencast intros to OSM, one general and one potlatch. > > http://showmedo.com/videos/series?name=mS2P1ZqS6 Awsome, thanks! I've been using JOSM so far (was no Potlatch when I'm joined and JOSM kind of stuck) but have been starting to use Potlatch for really minor