[tips] Is a minor in Psychology

2010-09-15 Thread michael sylvester
any good? Michael "omnicentric" Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=4875 or send a blank email to leave-4875-13090.68da6e

[tips] TIPSTER OF THE WEEK

2010-09-15 Thread michael sylvester
CLAUDIA STANNY Michael "omnicentric" Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=4874 or send a blank email to leave-4874-13090

Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?

2010-09-15 Thread Mike Palij
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:48:03 -0700, Christopher D. Green wrote: >Just for the record, Aristarchus of Samos outlined a heliocentric model >of the universe 1700 years before Copernicus. However, it should be pointed out that this was seen as a "heretical" position. Wikipedia's entry on Aristarchu

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Beth Benoit
I'm pleased to have a term for the occasional (well, we hope it's occasional) practice of handing in the same paper for another course. My favorite example of this is when a student handed in a paper with plagiarism from some website sources. He was irate at the F I gave him, and told me, "The la

Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?

2010-09-15 Thread Christopher D. Green
Marc Carter wrote: > Those old guys were *smart*... > > If ever you hear of a concentration of philosophical, scientific, and artistic talent like there was in Athens between, say, 450 and 350 bc (a city of about 100,000 back then) move there and start drinking the water, breathing the air

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread sblack
On 15 Sep 2010 at 13:30, Jim Clark wrote: > Most of the comments are quite negative about the idea of self-plagiarism. I > just see having to rewrite > something, just for the sake of being different (not to make it clearer), as > another distraction from doing > science. Another reason to av

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread roig-reardon
The question of the appropriateness of publishing an article in part or in whole that is identical to a previously published one boils down to whether the reader and, therefore, the editor is clearly informed about the nature of the duplication, particularly duplication involving data. Yes, so

RE: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?

2010-09-15 Thread Marc Carter
He also did a pretty damned good job of calculating the size of the earth! Those old guys were *smart*... -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts & Sciences Baker University -- > -Original Message- > From: Christopher D. Green [mailto:c

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Christopher D. Green
I agree with Annette here. Plagiarism has slightly different meanings in different disciplinary contexts (because we chiefly concerned with the originality of different aspects of the writing in different disciplines). In the context of a primary report of a new scientific study, plagiarism has

Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?

2010-09-15 Thread Christopher D. Green
Just for the record, Aristarchus of Samos outlined a heliocentric model of the universe 1700 years before Copernicus. Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ ==

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Claudia Stanny
Scott O. Lilienfeld notes: *At the very least, I think, we need a different term, as "self-plagiarism" strikes me as an oxymoron. Plagiarism by definition (at least all definitions I've ever seen and can locate) means appropriating others' work without attribution.* The APA code of ethics refers

Re: [tips] In the good old days

2010-09-15 Thread michael sylvester
Profs had one or two paperbacks to complement the texts,I was introduced to Rachel Carlson's Silent Spring in Bio 101. Gilbert Rye The nature of Mind (by a British prof) in History of Psych. Michael "omnicentric" Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: a

RE: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
At the very least, I think, we need a different term, as "self-plagiarism" strikes me as an oxymoron. Plagiarism by definition (at least all definitions I've ever seen and can locate) means appropriating others' work without attribution. The discussion does raise some interesting and impor

Re: [tips] In the good old days

2010-09-15 Thread Louis E. Schmier
Heck, way back in 1959, I had an invertebrate zoology book that cost $101! In 1959!! I've still got it. I'm convinced that for that price it must be hiding the mother lode. Make it a good day -Louis- Louis Schmier http://www.therandomthoughts.edublogs.org Departmen

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Steven Specht
I knew the musician analogy was weak... but it's interesting in some ways. I am in a continuous conversation with a musician friend of mine about the similarities and differences between the visual and "auditory" arts in terms of "replication". The analogies seem to "work better" and are more in

RE: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Jim Clark
Hi If you read the comments on the original posting, you will see that one respondent actually mentioned the example of Nobel prize winners who published much the same research in several different journals, without people objecting. The rational was that different people read different journa

RE: [tips] In the good old days

2010-09-15 Thread Vincent Wolodkin
Graduated college in 1987 and was appalled my senior year that my graduate level course in electromagnetic theory required a book that was *gasp* $80. My son started college this semester and his Intro to Art History and Appreciation text was $150. Andy Wolodkin Database Administrator Fro

Re: [tips] In the good old days

2010-09-15 Thread Louis E. Schmier
Women students were not taken seriously Women students were taken advantage of There were no black students Special needs students were ignored and went unaccommodated there were no or very few counseling services Profs could and were often abusive in class only 13% of those who graduated high scho

[tips] info: one for two

2010-09-15 Thread michael sylvester
Should a prof who has the same study published in two different journals count this as one poblication or two publications? I was the only one who became aware of this when a candidate who had applied for a position oresented reprints to the hiring committee.I kept my mouth shut and he got the

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Ken Steele
I am somewhere between the two, also. I have seen cases of self-plagiarism which I find objectionable. Typically, they have involved a cut-and-paste from one type of publication (e.g., a Psych Review article) to a completely different type of publication (e.g., a sophomore textbook). The

[tips] In the good old days

2010-09-15 Thread michael sylvester
In the good old days: Students came to see profs during office hours Profs had only one test taking tip "know everything" Text books had a few black and white photos,the rest was left to the imagination which further enhanced cognitive skills A "D" was an honorable grade Profs were not dishing o

RE: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Marc Carter
In one of my classes yesterday we were discussing a paper that did exactly what you suggest; summarized the method and referred the reader to the original article for details. I found it a little frustrating, though... m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychol

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
I'm somewhere between the two. I do think that occasionally we need to restate something and the way we've wordsmithed it over multiple edits really is the best way to say it. But, when you might see yourself duplicating a major subsection of an intro or method, it is probably better to summar

RE: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Rick Froman
I agree that it is fine to reproduce certain sections of a paper intact in a subsequent paper and most people cited in the article didn't seem to have a problem with that (especially in the Method section). The main concern is with how much of that can be done while still being considered a new

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Steven Specht
I agree with Annette. There are good and better ways to write a succinct explanation of the concept of contrast effects in sensory research. Once I had invested a great deal of time crafting what I thought was "the" best sentence, why would I change it just to avoid plagiarizing myself? I would

RE:[tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Annette Taylor
I have to disagree with Miguel here... agree with Barbato. I have spent the last decade researching a single paradigm and plan to do so until I retire probably. It has taken me years to phrase some of the basics in the most clear way so that others can understand what I mean. I don't want to hav

Re: [tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Michael Smith
> (I don’t mean that he is good at it, just that he knows a lot about it.) lol. That's funny. Especially since it kinda imply that he couldn't actually apply the knowledge. --Mike On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Rick Froman wrote: > > > http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/57676/ > > Inte

[tips] Self-plagiarism

2010-09-15 Thread Rick Froman
http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/57676/ Interesting post on The Scientist.com with quotes from TIPSter (and plagiarism expert) Miguel Roig. (I don't mean that he is good at it, just that he knows a lot about it.) Rick Rick Froman rfro...@jbu.edu --- You are c

RE: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?

2010-09-15 Thread Marc Carter
Good points, John. It was really Copernicus who gave us the notion that you could better explain the motions of the planets; it was Kepler who worked out elliptical orbits (but hated them -- circular motion required no explanation, but ellipses do), and Newton who invented gravity to explain th

Re: [tips] They Too Died That Day

2010-09-15 Thread Jim Clark
Hi Personally I do not think that apologies like Claudia's should be necessary when talking about group differences on a list like this (i.e., teachers of psychology), whether those differences concern religion, ethnicity, or whatever. Surely we appreciate when saying, for example, that men te