Re: [Neo4j] Set property on node in Neo4j REST server

2011-10-14 Thread Peter Neubauer
Andrew, You can either update just one property or set and override all of them, see http://docs.neo4j.org/chunked/snapshot/rest-api-node-properties.html Does that help? /peter On Friday, October 14, 2011, andrew ton wrote: > > > Hello, > > According to the Neo4j REST API to set a property on

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Niels Hoogeveen
I concur. In my opinion Neo4j is more a storage engine with certain storage features than a database management system. This is already exemplified by the absence of a query language as primary interface. The author is therefore wrong in his assessment that there is no separation of logical mo

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Axel Morgner
My 2 cents: The Neo4j API is clean, open, and sort-of low level by intention. It is neither ugly, smelly, nor it does it violate anything. Neo4j in general is very stable. But, of course, if you try the latest snapshot, it may have bugs (as any software has). Since May 2010, we're developing a

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Niels Hoogeveen
Hijack alert (going completely off topic) I noticed the following statement: "all reasoning is best with a linked list data structure." When looking at the underlying store we see that the RelationshipRecord indeed forms two linked lists, one for the incoming side of the relationship and one fo

[Neo4j] Set property on node in Neo4j REST server

2011-10-14 Thread andrew ton
Hello, According to the Neo4j REST API to set a property on a node I send a PUT request to the node's property URL e.g. http://localhost:7474/db/data/node/5/properties/{propertyname}. This api accepts a JSON object. How do I send a json object that has property name and value? The sample in t

Re: [Neo4j] Articles & Tags - Beginner Question

2011-10-14 Thread Sean Davis
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Hesham wrote: > Continuing my exploration of Neo4j, I have this theoretical example. > > A user can create articles, and the articles can be tagged with a number of > keywords. > > In a RDB, I would create a separate table for tags and this will allow me > to: > >

[Neo4j] Articles & Tags - Beginner Question

2011-10-14 Thread Hesham
Continuing my exploration of Neo4j, I have this theoretical example. A user can create articles, and the articles can be tagged with a number of keywords. In a RDB, I would create a separate table for tags and this will allow me to: 1- have the tags associated with one of more article. 2- get al

Re: [Neo4j] Configuring Neo4J via Python bindings

2011-10-14 Thread Chris Diehl
Hi Michael, I added a print statement to my code to output how many nodes have been inserted. The script zips along until it gets up around 18.6K nodes. Then the program halts when a Java exception is thrown, as shown below. Inserting user 18629 Inserting user 18630 Inserting user 18631 Inserting

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Rodriguez
Hi, >> This is not conducive to Baysian-based reasoning, evidential reasoning, >> other forms of logics (classical and non-classical) > > How would you model those to a suitable domain model? > Can you give a good example? > Michael Here is an article that argues for support of other data

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Peter Hunsberger
Frankly, I'm not sure the author understands the real issues. Pretty much everything he says about the limits of SQL is not strictly true. The whole issue here is not what kinds of models you can create in a relational database or graph database. If you know what you are doing you can use either

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Michael Hunger
Am 14.10.2011 um 18:47 schrieb Marko Rodriguez: > > This is not conducive to Baysian-based reasoning, evidential reasoning, > other forms of logics (classical and non-classical) How would you model those to a suitable domain model? Can you give a good example? Michael > > On Oct 14, 20

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Rodriguez
Hello, The type system provided by Spring Data Neo4j has a nearly identical semantics to Java (and most object oriented languages). The type system employed by FreeBase is more aligned with description logics --- RDFS/OWL. For many who live in the world of object oriented programming, being abl

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Thad Guidry
I should further say after looking more at Spring Data Neo4j ... that it allows an easy Type system layer on top of Neo4j. Is that correct ? The same kind of Type system that Freebase.com has had always. In fact, Micheal, I would say even say that with Spring Data Neo4j installed, you could almo

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Thad Guidry
>From your quick example, it looks like Spring Data Neo4j is what most folks really expect out of the box with Neo4j. I know I certainly did when I installed Neo4j for the first time, last year. Spring Data seems to meet with my expectation (based on my bottom-up Schema-evolving work on Freebase.

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Michael Hunger
With spring data neo4j you are able to use any domain entity with any node, so it is for instance possible to project an entity to another when used in a different context. Otherwise the Spring Data Neo4j config less invasive and more concise than the existing model but uses the same approach b

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Pablo Pareja
Here's my small contribution to this. First of all I wanted to say that I totally agree with Thad when he says: *"Folks just need better much more detailed Domain Model examples than what is available, that would help incredibly so, since many folks have a complex Domain Model to begin with..."* T

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Thad Guidry
I would suggest breaking down his statement further and fill in the blanks to gain even better insight into his conjecture. "it‘s basically a bunch of nodes where you just blob your attributes.‘ Worse than that, to wrap objects around it, you have to have them explicitly incorporate their node cl

Re: [Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Rick Otten
What is the "law of separation of concerns and logical vs. physical models", and why is it a law? -Original Message- From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Tobias Ivarsson Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 8:49 AM To: Neo user discussions Subj

[Neo4j] Article: "The Coming SQL Collapse"

2011-10-14 Thread Tobias Ivarsson
We had an interesting discussion about this internally at Neo Technology today. We thought it might be of interest to the broader community. I don't think the discussion is over, so it would be interesting to continue it on the public mailing list. It regards the initial paragraphs of an article p

[Neo4j] InvalidRecordException with BatchInserter in 1.5.M02

2011-10-14 Thread Dennis Hendriksen
Hi all, Since upgrading neo4j 1.4.1 to 1.5.M02 I get a InvalidRecordException while importing data in a new store using BatchInserter (never seen this exception with 1.4.1). For identical program executions the exceptions occur at different moments. The problem only occurs after inserting million

Re: [Neo4j] How to build neo4j projects from GitHub

2011-10-14 Thread Peter Neubauer
Added to https://github.com/neo4j/enterprise README, thanks! Cheers, /peter neubauer GTalk:      neubauer.peter Skype       peter.neubauer Phone       +46 704 106975 LinkedIn   http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter      http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org               -

Re: [Neo4j] Size limits for REST Server?

2011-10-14 Thread Pablo Pareja
Hi Jim and Peter, thanks for the info and the links, I'll have a look at them. As always happy for the great support around here ;) Pablo On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Jim Webber wrote: > Hi Pablo, > > > What do you exactly mean by discoverability ? Always getting all in/out > rels > > for

Re: [Neo4j] How to build neo4j projects from GitHub

2011-10-14 Thread Mattias Persson
Do build the latest snapshot of neo4j you just need to add m2.neo4j.org to your repository list (it's mostly for getting the parent pom). Here it is: http://dist.neo4j.org/settings.xml store that as your ~/.m2/settings.xml and it will just work. 2011/10/14 Brendan cheng > > Hi, > I was try