On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In reply to David Jonsson's message of Wed, 9 Apr 2008 00:35:22 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Hi
Magnetic pressure is a well known concept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_pressure
It struck me then that other
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In reply to David Jonsson's message of Wed, 9 Apr 2008 00:35:22 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Hi
Magnetic pressure is a well known concept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_pressure
It struck me then that other
Can someone comment on the energy density that is reported in this
abstract?
Abstract: Having the potential for a clean new energy source, rt-plasmas of
certain catalysts (Sr+, Ar+, K) with H formed at extraordinary low field
strengths of about 1–2 V/cm. Time-dependent, extraordinarily fast H
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:58:32 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
This must be what everyone is talking about. The description of the
power plant is rather nebulous. The section gets off on the wrong
foot with this stateme
Nebulous, I like
But do they involve hydrinos? http://www.aurorahunter.com/
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In reply to David Jonsson's message of Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:47:15 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Magnetic pressure is a well known concept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_pressure
It struck me then that other concepts must be applicable to magnetism too
like temperature.
Temperature is really a
Dear Vortex,
I'm changing my email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can't find any electronic means of doing this, so could you do it?
Many Thanks, Stephen R. Lawrence, Cambridge, England.
Abstract seems to belong to this 2007 paper (not freely accessible):
Catalysis of atomic hydrogen to new hydrides as a new power source
http://inderscience.metapress.com/index/X832U331J0R38642.pdf
Google scholar found what seems to be an earlier version (April 2005?):
Just resubscribe with your new address.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:20 PM
Subject: [Vo]:chg of email address
Dear Vortex,
I'm changing my email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL
From thomas malloy:
But do they involve hydrinos? http://www.aurorahunter.com/
Damned if I know if hydrinos are involved. It's a pretty site,
nevertheless. Great aurora photos.
Thanks, Thomas.
steve
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
R C Macaulay wrote:
The Houston Chronicle article today kinda disputes claims regarding
the idea of using windmills. The power produced ain't worth the
power to produce without heavy subsidies.
This is bunk. First, the wind power subsidies are modest compared to
the tax breaks (depletion
I wrote:
If the families of the victims were compensated for their loss at
the normal rates, coal would cost far more than wind or any other
source of energy.
Oops. I take that back. I miscalculated. The average wrongful death
compensation is around $800,000. Multiply by 20,000 and that is
thomas malloy wrote:
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:58:32 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
This must be what everyone is talking about. The description of the
power plant is rather nebulous. The section gets off on the wrong
foot with this
Jed wrote:
This is bunk. First, the wind power subsidies are modest
compared to
the tax breaks (depletion allowances and so on) for oil, (snip)
While I'm no fan of Big Oil, I think it's important to point
out that the oil depletion allowance has been virtually nil
since 1978.
Third,
Jed said:
This must be what everyone is talking about. The description of the power
plant is rather nebulous. The section gets off on the wrong foot with this
statement:
Atomic hydrogen ordinarily has a stable electronic state that is much
higher in energy than allowed by thermodynamic
High gas prices are opening up (so to speak) another
kind of oil gas extraction technique, called
fracture drilling, which was alluded to in a recent
thread on the new oil discovery in the Dakotas and
Montana (Williston Basin)
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On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Stephen Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Vortex,
I'm changing my email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quien
sabe?
Jones
At the end of the day the solution to the supply of energy will be based on
cost. Allow the price of fuel to rise to prohibitive use and viola! ,
amount consumed falls. We will see gas and diesel retail prices rise ( above
and beyond the shrinking dollar) as a
Jones sez:
High gas prices are opening up (so to speak) another
kind of oil gas extraction technique, called
fracture drilling, which was alluded to in a recent
thread on the new oil discovery in the Dakotas and
Montana (Williston Basin)
--- R C Macaulay wrote:
At the end of the day the solution to the supply of
energy will be based on cost.
Well... cost AND politics... and cost (greed) works
both ways; therefore it is possible that you would see
Exxon funding the Sierra Club to keep this kind of
thing from happening here.
Jones,
Do a search on Project Rulison: Underground stimulation in a tight sand
formation.
Ron
--On Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:30 AM -0700 Jones Beene
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- R C Macaulay wrote:
At the end of the day the solution to the supply of
energy will be based on cost.
Mike Carrell wrote:
In that case it is badly phrased. [M]uch higher than allowed by . .
. sounds like the author thinks the laws of thermodynamics will not
allow this to happen.
The fundamental problem here is that Jed disapproves of Mills'
business strategy and has not adequately studied
--- Ron Wormus wrote:
Jones, Do a search on Project Rulison
Wiki has an entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Rulison
When they say the gas was too radioactive to sell,
the reference is to the gaseous fission ash from the
fission of the explosive, including such isotopes as
tritium,
I wrote:
I did not miss these statements! I will be thrilled by this
development, as soon as it is independently replicated.
I mean that. I did read these sections, and I do understand why this
breakthrough is important.
I have never depreciated the potential importance of the BLP claims.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If this turns out to be right, it will be important to the theorists and
eventually to the engineers, but not to me. Whether the energy comes from
fusion, or the zero point, or whether it is leaking from Mars via a hidden
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:05:14 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
In the animation of the process, in the fourth stage KH(1/4) is mentioned as
a product. H(1/4) designates hydrinos shrunk by a factor of 4, releasing 435
eV in the process.
435 eV is the potential energy of
Mills, get out of Mike's body!
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Mike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP
...
The fundamental problem here is that Jed disapproves of Mills' business
Robin, thank you for your correction. 204 eV is still a lot of energym much
more so than with H(1/2). The important thing is that it gives credence to
the statements about electrolysis and regeneration of the solid fuel -- with
surplus power for externalk work.
Mike Carrell
- Original
And I respect Jed, even if we have differences -- Mike
I wrote:
I did not miss these statements! I will be thrilled by this development,
as soon as it is independently replicated.
I mean that. I did read these sections, and I do understand why this
breakthrough is important.
I have
Michel, there is nobody here but me. Mike
Mills, get out of Mike's body!
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Mike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/4/2008 2:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Exactly right. That's a huge mistake now, just as it was in 1908. Not
only did the Wrights refuse to demonstrate, they did not bother to
send photos of their flights to the U.S. Army officials. BLP, to its
credit, has published more information than
Without using any recent mathematical trickery. ;-)
As Mr. Carrell initially pointed out, there is a new claim of an
energy production breakthrough listed out at the Blacklight Power
web site. The new process involves the recycling of a solid catalyst.
Recent is perhaps incorrect as I would
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:30:55 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
I gather it's always been that confounded regenerative step that has
prevented BLP from coming up with an effective path towards commercial
application.
[snip]
Not really. Most BLP catalysts are ions that become even
Jones Beene wrote:
--- Ron Wormus wrote:
Jones, Do a search on Project Rulison
It turns out that these two elements, Radon and Xenon
are easily removed due to extremely higher density,
It's occurred to me that the radon might make a good core for a Brown
Nuclear Battery.
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