Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread David Roberson
I sure hope that biological warfare is outlawed by every species that inhabits the universe. Surely peace can be achieved at some point in our future. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 11:38 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney In repl

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread David Roberson
Call me an optimist if you will, but I assume that we will be capable of traveling at effectively greater than light speed some day. I understand that current theories (SR) prohibit this, but they also prohibit LENR. Some ideas concerning worm holes, among others, are being kicked around that

Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Abd, Some people are focused on Truth, some on Value. Mark is interested in Value- he wants CF/LENR to be useful, to do something good- give energy to the people. Your premises being different there is difficult to arrive at compatible views. However if CF generates Value, than it is implicit

Re: [Vo]:A little more positive article on Cold Fusion from Gibbs

2012-10-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Well, Mr. Gibbs, while I appreciate your reporting on Defkalion, you continue to confuse and conflate two separate issues. 1. The reality of cold fusion as a physical phenomenon. 2. The existence of practical applications. The kind of information you request below is entirely focused, in term

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:36:32 -0400: Hi Jed, [snip] >That is because they don't believe you. You have the same problem as people >writing Nigerian e-mail scam letters. > >- Jed I suspect you are correct, but how do I overcome this? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:09:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] >It is a little difficult to imagine how we might pay for this kind of >"trade." How could this be a commercial transaction in any sense? Obviously the only system that would work is barter. IOW payment in kind. BTW

[Vo]:Mr. Rossi says something is up at Leonardo

2012-10-24 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
"Up" in the business sense. http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/rossi-leonardo-corp-will-not-be-the-same/ Jeff

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > > There's a nice little SciFi short story about this (sorry, can't remember > title > or author). The basic theme is that trade is in concepts rather than > objects, > since these are readily exchanged, and of value to many. > Exactly. Concepts, and the templates for replicators. (Repli

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:57:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Jeff Berkowitz wrote: > > >> "The remainder of this paper is, or will be, or has been, depending on the >> reader's inertial frame, divided into three sections." >> > >That's wonderful. > >Still, I can't think of a

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > Defkalion has been burdened with poor management, too few qualified > scientists . . . I do not know how many scientists they have. > - and a flawed business plan. Dumber than dumb. Their business > plan envisioned charging extremely high up-front license fees for every

RE: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-24 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Hello Dave, I wish you the best in your new campaign tests with borax. Please, keep us up to date with discoveries and challenges you will have to face. Arnaud _ From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: mercredi 24 octobre 2012 02:54 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > > "Nothing motivates people more than the prospect of making billions of > dollars." > > ...you'd be surprised how wrong that is. I have pointed out to people that > the > market is on the order of trillions, with an initial investment of only an > hour > or so to look at what I've got,

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Eric Walker
I'm pretty happy at vortex. ;) Eric Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2012, at 11:30, Terry Blanton wrote: > Well, you can get your fill here at her home port: > > http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/ > > where she seems to be irritating her cohorts.

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread ChemE Stewart
Good old dark matter/energy. You know it is working when your device malfunctions. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jones Beene > > > wrote: > > > True, even Celani is not yet > > independently replicated, at l

RE: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
It's just a "DETACHMENT event". Let's hope them to find something interresting after the ongoing calibration. > -Original Message- > From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] > Sent: mercredi 24 octobre 2012 20:27 > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info fr

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > I think we have been a little unfair to Mary. I have never minded her > complaints. She does not lack for enthusiasm and focus. Well, you can get your fill here at her home port: http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/ where she seems to be irr

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > Despite his foibles, I really like Andrea Rossi. He annoys the heck out of > me. He is infuriating! And yet, somehow, you can't help but like him. He is > such a character. A force of nature! Like the guy in the beer ad: he is the > most interesting man in the world. > > If he succ

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > True, even Celani is not yet > independently replicated, at least not on the record, but insiders think the > first replication will be published soon. It looks like HUG might have experienced a "LENR event". http://www.quantumheat.org/inde

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I am not sure what to call the software image you put into a replicator. > Design? Blueprint? Genome? > Template? Clarke described replicators in "Profiles" (1963). He called the instructions the "matrix" or "memory." The ones we have now are only the beginning of the technology. Clar

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rossi wrote: > Leonardo Corp. will not be the same from the next week. I am in the USA, > where an inportant event has been born from the last tests. > Warm Regards, > A.R. > Oh boy. Here we go again. Despite his foibles, I really like Andrea Rossi. He annoys the heck out of me. He is infuriat

Re: [Vo]:PopSci article on Rossi now online

2012-10-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Popsci :  If history is any guide, no such report would be issued. Rossi will reset the goalposts­the only thing he does with any consistency­and forestall his day of reckoning for another few months, and then another few months after that, until finally he disappears from the stage in a puff of

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Berkowitz wrote: > "The remainder of this paper is, or will be, or has been, depending on the > reader's inertial frame, divided into three sections." > That's wonderful. Still, I can't think of any reason for interstellar trade. If you can travel between stars you can also send a complet

RE: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Robert Lynn I can only surmise that Defkalion prevented publication, which would contradict their earlier statements about allowing independent testers to publish. Hiding poor results? Yes - I think they are hiding results, but "poor" in

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: So if they funded the trip then why didn't they publish any results? > Because they are under NDAs. - Jed