Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

No. This may not be ideal but that is certainly worse. Damn the torpedos! ~A On Monday, June 14, 2010, William Pietri wrote: > On 06/14/2010 01:12 AM, Cenarium sysop wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Cenarium >> sysopwrote: >> >>> You'll soon have your answer here: >>> http://en.wiki

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

There was always going to be a bit of Damned if you do, Damned if you don't; It's just unavoidable in a community this large. ~A ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] About tl;dr

If everyone spent all day at their computers, and read each email individually as they came in, that would be fine - each one is okay by itself. But people work, and people eat, sleep, and do many other things that prevent them from waiting for a mailing list. I may care about the issue, but read

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

Love the rest, but the "We'll be watching it carefully" is a little creepy. ~A On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 22:57, FT2 wrote: > We don't and can't right now but we should probably say something on these > lines just because people will wonder how long to expect and saying > something is better than

Re: [WikiEN-l] Updated new search interface on the prototype

Well, according to Google, there are somewhere between 1.5 and 1.8 billion internet users in the world. If we ignore those numbers and say only 1B use the internet, then according to Alex wikipedia.org gets about 13.5% of internet users. That's 135 million users. We definitely don't have anywher

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

I absolutely agree. I'd never use vector to edit, but from a purely reading point of view (which is still >50% of how I use Wikimedia) it's gorgeous, and very smooth, and I feel definitely highlights the "editing" aspect as well. ~A On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 16:21, AGK wrote: > On 13 May 2010 2

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

It's counter-intuitive, perhaps, but I find the internet community as a whole to be surprisingly unaccepting of change. ~A On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 09:16, William Pietri wrote: > People should probably take blog and blog comment reaction with quite a > bit of salt. I've been through a lot of red

Re: [WikiEN-l] The new look to Wikipedia

Delete and protect are in the dropdown arrow next to the star on the upper-right. Block is where it always was, on the toolbar on the left, but you have to click the arrow to display the menu. The reason none of your scripts worked is that they are all in [[User:WereSpielChequers/monobook.js]].

Re: [WikiEN-l] UIC Journal: Evaluating quality control of Wikipedia's feature[d] articles

Three were "on the fence" so while the article may report a 55% success rate, it also is stating a 32% failure rate. ~A On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:33, Nathan wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Nathan wrote: >> Interesting; it says that of 22 articles reviewed, 12 were found to >> not

Re: [WikiEN-l] Climate change on Wikipedia

I'll add that it doesn't appear to actually be a story yet, just a submission made through Firehose. Regular /.ers have clearly spoken as to how they feel about it, as noted by the colorful tags placed on the submission and its poor rating. Meanwhile, the article itself is a misleading, erroneous

Re: [WikiEN-l] Random featured article...

Proposed by Durova: Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Featured content stars for featured pictures Inoffensive? To some, not to others. ~A On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 16:04, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Durova wrote: >> deteriorating from brilliant prose into mediocr

Re: [WikiEN-l] Random featured article...

These two links may be of interest to you: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dapete/random/enwiki-featured.php http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dapete/random/enwiki-good.php As found on [[User:Csörföly D/random featured article]] ~Amory ___ WikiEN-l mailing list W

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Create an article as a newbie challenge now paused

Sort of like getting annoyed with a police officer for giving you a warning for speeding. No harm done to anyone, just don't speed next time. Pun intended. ~A On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:35, Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Gregory Maxwell wrote: >> It seems that, under the guise of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Newbie and not-so-newbie biting

I wouldn't exactly call that post "nice." It reads to me like just another person complaining. The argument that an article about a non-profit can't be an advertisement is absurd. I recognize that NPPs should on the whole be nicer to submissions from newer users, but the overwhelming majority of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

I like the first response on that page: "Some places need to be left spam free" ~A On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:33, Risker wrote: > 2009/9/6 David Gerard > > > What could possibly go wrong? > > > > > > > http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo-tools/115582-wikipedia-linking-tool.

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy Text

Not saying I disagree with you, but with that in mind and looking at the test example, I'd say that the more useful concept isn't the ability to rate editors - which I could do without, it's a little too anti-AGF imho - but its usefulness as a metric of how many people have edited a particular sect

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

Duplicating the function of templates - maybe not the best word to use. A better one might be "misinterpreting." ~A On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 14:36, Brian wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Amory Meltzer >wrote: > > > I have a feeling a lot of those are

Re: [WikiEN-l] SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia

I have a feeling a lot of those are duplications of templates placed on a page - Macbeth linking to Romeo and Juliet (and vice versa) was my first example. Multiple search terms would seem to be the real place this would be useful, to minimize crossover from templates. ~A On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Usability testing ("Try Beta")

It does, however, automatically put you back to the Monobook skin, which is clearly only an issue if you use something else. ~A On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 21:29, Casey Brown wrote: > Try clicking on it, don't worry it doesn't change the format or > anything unless you confirm it and you can always

Re: [WikiEN-l] Do experts have a moral obligation to contribute to Wikipedia?

Only as much as off-duty doctors, lifeguards, EMTs, etc. have to attempt to save someone's life. Good-samaritan laws exist for a reason. ~A On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:26, David Gerard wrote: > http://blog.k1v1n.com/2009/08/if-tree-falls-in-forest-part-1.html > > He thinks that experts have a mo

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

No, it puts them in league with everyone else that relies on something that hasn't been changed in nearly a century. ~Amory > Does this dispute put us in league with the Scientologists? > > Ec -- ~A ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedi

Re: [WikiEN-l] FW: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

Well I for one don't like it! *HMPH!* That being said, the roughtype article kind of sensationalizes the results. Matching test subjects simply by internet usage doesn't really cut it. Picking 69 wikipedians will likely inherently skew the results. The researchers would have to specifically fi

Re: [WikiEN-l] US city requires Internet account passwords from employees

> I don't put my religion on my CV and would not want any prospective employer > knowing about it - not because I'm ashamed about it, just that it's private > information which isn't relevant to how good (or otherwise) a job I'll do. That's the point. Giving them your usernames and passwords to

Re: [WikiEN-l] US city requires Internet account passwords from employees

> Hmm! Maybe the people they should be hiring are the ones who openly > refuse to answer. ;-) They are the ones with the courage and > integrity to be trusted with sensitive information. Heh, not how I thought you were gonna end that. I thought it would read more like this: "Hmm! Maybe the pe

Re: [WikiEN-l] US city requires Internet account passwords from employees

I doubt it'll last. The ACLU is correct on the page when they say "I liken it to them saying they want to look at your love letters and your family photos," it's just excessive. It's also largely against the TOS for most of these sites. It's an interesting view at the sort of importance and clou

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] en.wiki migrated to new search backend

Well, of the five, the fifth is irrelevant, and the first will be obvious automatically once you start typing. WP:S has the descriptions copied verbatim (admittedly poor), but I think we all know how often that gets viewed. I'd be neglect to introduce something else to the search bar itself for f

Re: [WikiEN-l] Docs look to Wikipedia for condition info: Manhattan Research

> > The exact specifications of the "Little Boy" bomb remain > classifiedbecause they > could still be used to create a viable nuclear weapon. > First line of the section. That sort of sums up this whole debate - it's essentially a risk-bene

Re: [WikiEN-l] Docs look to Wikipedia for condition info: Manhattan Research

Rollback definitely works on the article's diff page. Twinkle also does the same thing (assumes continued vandalism/agf) for all its various options. ~A On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:20, Carcharoth wrote: > On an article, rollback will do that if there is a sequence of edits > by a single editor a

Re: [WikiEN-l] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SOCK

In my experience with web-based positions of power, people leave for two reasons: 1. Their life changes (job, kids, school, etc.) basically meaning they can't or don't want to commit the time or 2. Things change and the website didn't go exactly the way they wanted it to - serious business and all