Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-26 Thread James Salsman
For example, whether or not a notable town in in the global south, for instance, has an article is unlikely to affect the quality of life of its residents as much as whether infrastructure businesses in that town have access to credit. If global finance policy makers believe the typical positions o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-26 Thread Jean-Philippe Béland
"As biases go, omitting notable subjects in the global south doesn't have the deleterious real-world consequences that reenforcing erroneous economic hegemony does." How so? I don't want to go into politics topics, but with what we see recently we clearly see the danger of thinking "less" of those

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-26 Thread Jane Darnell
I don't think so, but this has interested me. The problem is how to look at the data in such a way that it is meaningful. I tried to break it down a bit and I have presented about the differences in women's occupations across language wikis and gender here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:G

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-25 Thread James Salsman
Jean-Philippe, yes, absolutely: http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/how-well-represented-is-the-mena-region-in-wikipedia/ As biases go, omitting notable subjects in the global south doesn't have the deleterious real-world consequences that reenforcing erroneous economic hegemony does. On Mon, Sep

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-25 Thread Jean-Philippe Béland
Good day, This is not related to gender bias, but an observation I made from reading this paper. Table 1 shows the different percentage of overlap between different languistic versions of Wikipedia with the English Wikipedia. Do anybody know if there are studies or reports focussed on that? For e

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-22 Thread James Heilman
The article was discussing the proportion of articles about specific gender and possible reasons why this situation exists. What I mentioned was simply one among many potential explanation. James On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Eduardo Testart wrote: > Hi again, > > I think the article is not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-22 Thread Eduardo Testart
Hi again, I think the article is not related to paid editing, if you wish to discuss that subject, you should probably open another thread. It would be nice if the discussion and comments can be kept on topic :) Cheers, El sept. 22, 2017 3:49 PM, "James Heilman" escribió: How do we know? Th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-22 Thread James Heilman
How do we know? Those who work extensively in this topic area and are good at picking up paid editing make an educated guess. There are well known patterns that represent paid editing. We could likely build a tool that could look at all BLPs and give a numerical value to the percentage that are mos

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 September 2017 at 18:24, James Heilman wrote: > We know that a sizable proportion of articles > about people are paid for by the individual themselves or their > representative. We do? How? And what size is that "sizable proportion"? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-22 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes very interesting, if only to illustrate how difficult it is to get this information reliably. It is also interesting to see those charts dating to the days before Wikidata. One problem with using these stats is that pretty much everything is a moving target. Yes there is a larger gap at the loc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-22 Thread James Heilman
An interesting paper. We know that a sizable proportion of articles about people are paid for by the individual themselves or their representative. I just looked at the gender of all articles created by this sock involved in undisclosed paid editing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bri/COIbox61#

[Wikimedia-l] Women through the glass ceiling: gender asymmetries in Wikipedia

2017-09-22 Thread Eduardo Testart
Hi all, One of the members from Wikimedia Chile, independently from the chapter and before he became a member, was directly involved in the development of the following article, that adress the gender inequality (or gender bias), and which gives the title to the email: *https://epjdatascience.s