Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor proxy with blinded tokens

2015-03-16 Thread Derric Atzrott
I think pretty much anything is better than the current situation. I'd support this proposal. The timing is right too with the WMF vs NSA lawsuit just happening. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Arlo Breault wrote: > I share Risker’s concerns here and limiting the anonymity > set to the inters

Re: [Wikitech-l] changing edit summaries

2014-11-13 Thread Derric Atzrott
e of saying "Hey the previous edit had a wrong edit summary, this is what I really did." Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] changing edit summaries

2014-11-13 Thread Derric Atzrott
u make an edit that revision is fixed and should not be able to be modified. This is one of the core principles that makes wikis work. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay

2014-11-12 Thread Derric Atzrott
fic/usage logs in > any way nor are we planning to. By default Tor doesn't keep any meaningful logs and the folks at the Tor project get very upset if you change that, for obvious reasons. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Sidenote: I've just a few days

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Yuvi Panda joins Ops

2014-11-06 Thread Derric Atzrott
Agreed! Congrats! > Awesome Yuvi. Congratulations! :D > >> On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Danese Cooper wrote: >> >> Woot! Way to go, Yuvi! >> >> D >> >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Mark Bergsma wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm very pleased to announce that as of this week, Yuvi Panda

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css blocked on Special:Login and Special:Preferences

2014-11-06 Thread Derric Atzrott
iled a bug[2] and Kunal (Legoktm) has provided a patch[3] to allow >> site-wide styling back on those pages. > > Right, the patch only re-adds site-wide CSS, not JS. > This seems completely reasonable to me. I'd merge is personally. Is there any reason not to? Thank you

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Marielle Volz joins Wikimedia as Software Developer

2014-10-28 Thread Derric Atzrott
> because it's a big step forward towards the goal of making even > relatively complex tasks like inserting citations more convenient in > VE than in wikitext. Not going to lie, that sounds really cool. Can't wait to see that finished. Welcome Marielle. I wish you the best of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-13 Thread Derric Atzrott
e that would be hard to modify to pull from the list of Tor nodes to get its list of users. I'll take a look at the TorBlock extension and the FlaggedRevs extension code and see what I can see. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-02 Thread Derric Atzrott
their own GPG keys, or has access to several computers, but it would stop a lot of would-be-sockpuppeteers. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-02 Thread Derric Atzrott
mation about those individuals that might be useful to someone trying to kill them (or at least identify their real world identity). Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor exit node rejects port 443 of WM, but it is disabled for editing

2014-10-02 Thread Derric Atzrott
not be). Are Tor exit relays that block access to Wikimedia in their rejection policies usually allowed to edit Wikimedia projects? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
; numerous innocent users, and by no means excludes seriously malicious > users. I did respond to this to explain our concerns, which is what netted the GPG idea. Does anyone see any glaringly obvious problems with requiring an easily blockable and difficult to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
oesn't this should be fairly trivial to put together I would imagine (though correct me if I am wrong). Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
accept some sort of proof of work rather than their public facing IP address as well. If we had a system where in order to be issued a certificate in Nymble you had to complete a proof-of-work that took perhaps several hours of computation and was issued for a week, that might be a sufficient barri

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
accept some sort of proof of work rather than their public facing IP address as well. If we had a system where in order to be issued a certificate in Nymble you had to complete a proof-of-work that took perhaps several hours of computation and was issued for a week, that might be a sufficient barri

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wrapping signatures with a for discoverability

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
t; This also makes working out what the state of the page at time X quite > hard for things like "Please note that I am being paid to edit by XYZ Inc." > that come and go from month to month to be seen. This is one of my biggest concerns as well. Thank you, Derric Atz

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-09-30 Thread Derric Atzrott
l that points towards this. We need to transition away from a framework where IP addresses are our only means to block problematic editors and towards a framework where we can do so via other less intrusive means. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-09-30 Thread Derric Atzrott
t did bring to an increase in abuse > (spam/trolling/vandalism). Might you have been talking about Bug #30716? [1] It happened in September of 2011. In May of 2012 the bug was re-opened and it hasn't yet been closed. Thank you, Derric Atzrott __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-09-30 Thread Derric Atzrott
onment we currently live in, with the NSA doing their thing, I feel we shouldn't be punishing those who care about their privacy. You don't need to have anything to hide to want to protect yourself. Thank you, Derric Atzrott (Also, and not to nitpick, "Tor" not "TOR&

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-09-30 Thread Derric Atzrott
Alright, this is a long email, and it acts to basically summarise all of the discussions that have already happened on this topic. I'll be posting a copy of it to Mediawiki.org as well so that it will be easier to find out about what has already been proposed in the future. There is a policy side

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-09-30 Thread Derric Atzrott
least appear there is at least some merit to discussing it, or aspects of it, on this list. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-09-30 Thread Derric Atzrott
from Tor connections would need to have their edits reviewed, or perhaps just wouldn't get autopatrolled status as quickly (if ever). There has got to be a better solution to the problem than just blocking all Tor users completely. Thank you, Derric Atzrott [1

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm leaving the Wikimedia Foundation

2014-09-12 Thread Derric Atzrott
You will be serverly missed. You've always been one of my favourite people at the Foundation. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is simplicity is the key to success of Echo and Watchlist?

2014-09-02 Thread Derric Atzrott
to them and then consume > the subscription at the moment that I feel comfortable doing that. It > is like it is mixing my mailbox with my newspaper... I haven't played around with Flow yet, but if that is how Flow integrates into Echo, I can definitely see that being a huge complaint from a ton of people. I'd find that somewhat annoying too. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template RFC

2014-08-28 Thread Derric Atzrott
> about Bugzilla vs Phabricator because we will all be using the latter. Indeed! Very much looking forward to that! Phabricator looks like a great piece of software. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template RFC

2014-08-28 Thread Derric Atzrott
ing to do with Phabricator and I thought we were currently only using Phabricator for bugs related to Phabricator. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] planned move to phabricator

2014-08-25 Thread Derric Atzrott
> Because we decided to work on the Phabricator project in Phabricator, to > learn in depth how it works and how could we work best with it. Eating your own dogfood and all that. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-20 Thread Derric Atzrott
ons a perfectly viable GSoC project that has both useful and important implications. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-19 Thread Derric Atzrott
y collect data on how many wikis make use of any given extension? Exposing that data may also help someone make an informed decision about whether or not to use an extension. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Derric Atzrott
g. I think Erik's commit is likely poisoned at this point and any work that stems from it is unlikely to be accepted by the wider community. I like the discussion that is going on in #69445, thank you for filing that Legoktm. If nothing else, this whole debacle brought this i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Policy on browser support

2014-08-04 Thread Derric Atzrott
ience that new browsers can provide. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-enterprise] MediaWiki for the third party community: get involved!

2014-08-04 Thread Derric Atzrott
t community. Personally, I don't find it worrying, I actually find it quite refreshing. Its about time third-party users were treated as first-party citizens! :D Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Include an updater

2014-07-18 Thread Derric Atzrott
them know that their installation of Mediawiki is both out of date and vulnerable. Just a few days ago I let the Free Software Foundation know that they were running Mediawiki 1.16, which is vulnerable and hasn't been supported for some time. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] tool for quickly uploading 10000 images with description

2014-07-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
image importer does. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] HTML Forms class, multiple forms

2014-04-21 Thread Derric Atzrott
ve to come up with a way to determine which form on the page was filled out? Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] English Wikipedia Homepage Framework

2014-04-15 Thread Derric Atzrott
discussing here previously a framework for testing stuff across many browsers. If we have something of the like here, I think that it could be well deployed to help them out. No reason for them to re-invent the wheel or do all of the testing manually. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist

Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL Cert Change?

2014-04-10 Thread Derric Atzrott
tbleed issue (actually had a few users here at the office come to me very concerned about what they heard on the news). Glad to hear that the certs were reissued to take care of that. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@

[Wikitech-l] SSL Cert Change?

2014-04-10 Thread Derric Atzrott
: 2015-08-24 19:09:19 (501 days ahead) I rejected the certificate for the moment, but saved a copy of both if anyone wants to take a look. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Bug 24620 - Log entries are difficult to localize; rewrite logs system

2014-04-04 Thread Derric Atzrott
ugzilla in general (something I hope to fix). Would anyone be willing to let me know where this bug stands, or close it if it should be closed? Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] .wiki gTLD

2014-04-02 Thread Derric Atzrott
ions with Top Level Design, both to look into potentially appropriate uses (e.g. URL shorteners) and to prevent squatting of WMF trademarks." I imagine that this is just that in action. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikite

[Wikitech-l] .wiki gTLD

2014-02-20 Thread Derric Atzrott
st of new gTLDs that they have approved.[2] Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [1]: http://www.namejet.com/Pages/newtlds/tld/WIKI [2]: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings ___ Wikitech-l mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Non-Violent Communication

2014-02-18 Thread Derric Atzrott
hing else, does not matter as much to me. I suggested NVC because it has been a very useful tool for me in the past. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Non-Violent Communication

2014-02-17 Thread Derric Atzrott
was only trying to help us all communicate and get along better. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Non-Violent Communication

2014-02-17 Thread Derric Atzrott
no means perfect at it myself, but even with the practice that I have I've already seen a huge improvement in how I relate to others. I really think that it could do a lot of good here. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor and Parsoid New Pages in Wikitext?

2014-02-17 Thread Derric Atzrott
to use VisualEditor on current wikis. This is what I had originally thought, but then somehow along the way I managed to get confused. Thank you for clarifying. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor and Parsoid New Pages in Wikitext?

2014-02-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
ext editor, I won't be able to use Visual Editor with it anymore. >> The documentation for the extension's installation mentions > >Do you have a link to this documentation? I was reading this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor Thank you, Derric At

[Wikitech-l] Visual Editor and Parsoid New Pages in Wikitext?

2014-02-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
#x27;m thinking about letting folks try Visual Editor here, but I need to be able to work with Wikitext still as there are definitely some unusual things I do in Wikitext from time to time. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist A

Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread

2014-02-12 Thread Derric Atzrott
t of crap a while back from everyone, including myself, but you really are working on an awesome product, and I'm glad to see it happening. Thank you, Derric Atzrott (Hmmm this signature looks like I'm thanking myself given the rest of the mail. I'm not, just to be clear)

[Wikitech-l] Toolserver Error 502

2014-02-11 Thread Derric Atzrott
tool at [0] to check their eligibility to vote. Is there a bug in bugzilla that I might be able to watch? Or is this a new issue? Thank you, Derric Atzrott [1] https://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/accounteligibility/?event=31 ___ Wikitech-l ma

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
;You mean kind of like this? >https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SSLClientAuthentication Pretty close. I was actually thinking well known PGP keypair, but SSL cert signed by a trusted CA works just as well. I'll fool around with that extension later to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-06 Thread Derric Atzrott
support an initiative to add that as an option. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] English Wikipedia Issues

2014-02-06 Thread Derric Atzrott
: 162.17.205.153, 208.80.154.76, 10.64.32.105 Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Thu, 06 Feb 2014 16:40:23 GMT (Missed the Super Bowl and attempting to figure out what all the big talk about it is about, apparently it was a slaughter?) Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-05 Thread Derric Atzrott
e claim their email accounts were >hijacked. I feel as though this idea does not meet my need for privacy. I can guess that at least a portion of the community would agree. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Issue

2013-11-15 Thread Derric Atzrott
ss? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Issue

2013-11-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
ia. I am not seeing it affect Mediawiki.org Additionally the issue seems to be affecting more than just the English language Wikipedia. The lojban language Wikipedia is also experiencing difficulties. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wiki

[Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Issue

2013-11-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
/Johnny_the_Homicidal_Maniac, from 10.64.32.106 via cp1067 cp1067 ([10.64.0.104]:3128), Varnish XID 2127871567 Forwarded for: 162.17.205.153, 208.80.154.76, 10.64.32.106 Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:48:33 GMT Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Code-in: are you in?

2013-10-10 Thread Derric Atzrott
n. This seems like a really great opportunity to pick up some new volunteers and get some annoying bugs out of the way. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Exceptions, return false/null, and other error handling possibilities.

2013-10-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
hey at least let me know in a highly visible way when I forget to do something about them, unlike magic return values which may cause problems which do not surface right away if a check is forgotten. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
nments or other environment that don't match up with the typical VPS or dedicated server. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ...now back to lurking. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving anti-vandalism tools (twinkle, huggle etc) - suspicious edits queue

2013-09-27 Thread Derric Atzrott
e also wants the edit to go through and be visible right away. I believe that he is trying to assume good faith in these types of edits. Trust, but verify, if you will. I'm not entirely sure that FlaggedRevs is the best solution here. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Use of http:// urls in wikimedia wiki emails

2013-09-04 Thread Derric Atzrott
e geoip check also disable the preference check mark? What if I am on vacation in China and want the preference to still be checked when I return home? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-26 Thread Derric Atzrott
x27;s been a while since I read the GPL. Looking back over it again (well the FAQ actually), that is very non-intuitive... we'd need to fork the Mediawiki process to allow non-GPL extensions to be distributed? I might have to look into licenses again and make sure what I use is GPL compatibl

[Wikitech-l] Error Creating Thumbnail?

2013-08-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
diagnosing this. Image Details: File:Lab Map.png (6,001 × 2,387 pixels, file size: 1,003 KB, MIME type: image/png) Any ideas what the issue might be or where I could look for more info? Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

Re: [Wikitech-l] How's the SSL thing going?

2013-07-31 Thread Derric Atzrott
with Jimbo. We need to fix this as best we can. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-25 Thread Derric Atzrott
ained, but I >wouldn't describe it as being "done silently". I guess the next question is what can we do to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again? I think everyone would have been a lot more calm if they had read and understood your communication in the

[Wikitech-l] CustomEditor Hook

2013-07-24 Thread Derric Atzrott
It appears that CustomEditor is no longer in includes/Wiki.php like the documentation says it is.[0] Any idea where this hook relocated to? Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/CustomEditor

[Wikitech-l] Gitblit down?

2013-07-23 Thread Derric Atzrott
Afternoon, Anyone else having issues getting at Gitblit? I've not been able to get at it for the past half hour or so. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikit

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Derric Atzrott
hit for all of us developer types. From what I have seen on this mailing list the past few days, please correct me if I am wrong, is that the community feels frustrated that the product team for Visual Editor is failing to acknowledge their needs. Enabling this preference would likely clear th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Derric Atzrott
t;Now thats not possible any longer. Slightly off topic, but for this problem at least you could try using ?debug=true which will turn off that portion of Resource Loader. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Derric Atzrott
find being forced to learn a new piece of software so great. Of course I could be missing something here. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Alternative editor?

2013-07-19 Thread Derric Atzrott
se of this hook? Does VisualEditor? I just want a second example of how to build an edit page that does things a little differently so that I can compare the two and learn a bit more about ways that I can go about this. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Path

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 120, Issue 54

2013-07-19 Thread Derric Atzrott
Give them time Edmund. Alternatively, you can go to the following URL and remove yourself. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Thank you, Derric Atzrott -Original Message- From: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Strange Visual Editor Diff

2013-07-17 Thread Derric Atzrott
>> Where do we send diffs from Visual Editor that look strange? >> >> Such as this one: >> [snip] >> >> Thank you, >> Derric Atzrott >> Computer Specialist >> Alizee Pathology > >The link arrived broken. Here's an attempt to unbre

[Wikitech-l] Strange Visual Editor Diff

2013-07-17 Thread Derric Atzrott
Where do we send diffs from Visual Editor that look strange? Such as this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Polycarbonate&diff=prev&oldid=5646183 11 Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] ContentHandler Questions

2013-07-16 Thread Derric Atzrott
ake use of in this extension. > >...snip... > >Thank you, >Derric Atzrott It appears that I misunderstood what ContentHandler is and what it does. This misunderstanding has been corrected. If I have any more questions, I'll send them though. Thank you, Derric Atzrott __

[Wikitech-l] ContentHandler Questions

2013-07-15 Thread Derric Atzrott
at all clear in this email, so if I didn't give enough information or you have questions that might clarify both in my mind and yours what I am trying to accomplish feel free to ask. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Man

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please identify your Wikimedia handles

2013-07-11 Thread Derric Atzrott
bute to the Mailing list whenever I feel I can (and I read everything). Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problems Updating from 1.18 to 1.21.1

2013-07-09 Thread Derric Atzrott
general though as it was just a left over configuration change from some time ago that I had forgotten to remove when we determined we wouldn't be using it. I think that's now twice in as many days I've been ninja'd in an email. Makes me laugh

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problems Updating from 1.18 to 1.21.1

2013-07-09 Thread Derric Atzrott
>...snip... > >Any idea what I may have done wrong. Is there a new setting that I may have missed? Has anyone ever seen this sort of issue before? > >Thank you, >Derric Atzrott I determined the issue. I had $wgUrlProtocols[] = "file:"; in my LocalSettings.php from

[Wikitech-l] Problems Updating from 1.18 to 1.21.1

2013-07-09 Thread Derric Atzrott
, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor Roadmap

2013-07-09 Thread Derric Atzrott
ument, like the Roadmap document, that outlines the upcoming goals for VisualEditor for the remainder of the year? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Visual Editor Roadmap

2013-07-09 Thread Derric Atzrott
Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Possibly malicious script inside "United_Kingdom" article

2013-07-08 Thread Derric Atzrott
ght now the script you linked to is all the scripts on the page pretty much compressed into one file. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF Deployment Highlights - Week of June 17th

2013-06-17 Thread Derric Atzrott
notice at the top of Visual Editor to allow them to easily change the preference back as well. While this doesn't solve the template issue (and the clean-up that will inevitable come of that), it might work as a solution to the getting new users to test VE issue.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

2013-04-23 Thread Derric Atzrott
word you can place the table of contents wherever you want in the document.[0] At least in that case, parsing the entire document might be best. /me goes back to lurking. Thank you, Derric Atzrott [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

2012-12-28 Thread Derric Atzrott
ssible to request an exemption to the Tor block. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] slight change to the review workflow in Gerrit

2012-12-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
r human review on code which is >> | obviously broken. >> >> Why not just add (more) slaves? Computing power is much >> cheaper than developer time. > >I absolutely agree. I'm also in agreement on this one. Having tests run aft

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed new WMF browser support framework for MediaWiki

2012-11-21 Thread Derric Atzrott
evant now, may not be 5 years down the line. Although everyone at the WMF and who volunteers with the WMF is a lot better about updating outdated policies than almost anywhere else I have ever seen, we all know that we have our fair share of outdated policies and documentation. Anyhow, that'

[Wikitech-l] HTTPS Mobile en.wikipedia.org

2012-11-16 Thread Derric Atzrott
r this (as I'm not on any other lists, so I don't know their culture and scopes as well), but I believe that it is on topic. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
>Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today >that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective >native HTTPS ones, e.g. > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page > Does

Re: [Wikitech-l] On GitHub, rename wikimedia/mediawiki-core -> wikimedia/mediawiki

2012-11-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
eone looking to find our copy of mediawiki-core on Github. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] About RESOLVED LATER

2012-11-13 Thread Derric Atzrott
ugh, I'm sure if there are disagreements on that length of time, another could easily be decided upon. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coordination between developers in Free/libre open source projects

2012-10-31 Thread Derric Atzrott
gt;So yeah, I'd like to take part in the survey, but I can't. > >-- Matma Rex You should also add N/A options to many of your questions. Some of them are not applicable to all of us, or make very little sense in the context of some of us. Thank you, Derric Atzrott _

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-22 Thread Derric Atzrott
plate if they wanted to quickly throw together a stub on the topic? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Željko Filipin, QA Engineer

2012-10-02 Thread Derric Atzrott
eans meant to be rude, but how does one pronounce your name? It is very unique looking to my uncultured eyes. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dependency management, MediaWiki and modularity

2012-09-28 Thread Derric Atzrott
tu/Debian box by typing "apt-get install mediawiki mediawiki-extension-XYZ mediawiki-extension-ZYX". Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dependency management, MediaWiki and modularity (was Re: New extension: Diff)

2012-09-28 Thread Derric Atzrott
Linux distro packaging mechanisms, like apt-get and yum. The less >distro maintainers have to mess with MediaWiki the better. > >Wanted to send this to you directly, since it is off topic. > >Where is that quote from? It is so incredibly true. Sorry all. I meant to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dependency management, MediaWiki and modularity (was Re: New extension: Diff)

2012-09-28 Thread Derric Atzrott
Linux distro packaging mechanisms, like apt-get and yum. The less >distro maintainers have to mess with MediaWiki the better. Wanted to send this to you directly, since it is off topic. Where is that quote from? It is so incredibly true. Thank you, Derric Atzrott _

Re: [Wikitech-l] shortened links (was Re: MediaWiki 1.20 release candidate (and triage announcement))

2012-09-25 Thread Derric Atzrott
> >Anyway, I do certainly think we have bigger fish to fry. Agreed on all counts. As a compromise, might I suggest including both? [0] [0-short]: http://exam.pl/ [0-long]: http://www.example.com/ Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal to add an API/Developer/Developer Hub link to the footer of Wikimedia wikis

2012-09-24 Thread Derric Atzrott
>> >> Is anyone else excited about this idea or is it just me...? >> > >That is an intriguing concept that could indeed work quite well to get >people interested, but how many will remain interested after they >encounter gerrit? I can't actually say I like this idea a whole lot. Here's why: * P

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