Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-12 Thread Darren J Moffat
Neil Perrin wrote: We are currently working on separate log devices such as disk and nvram. This should help with both NFS and DB performance. It also makes things "interest" from the zfs-crypto view point. It means that it would allow a configuration where we don't do encryption on the ZIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-11 Thread Richard Elling
Neil Perrin wrote: Jeremy Teo wrote On 01/11/07 01:38,: On 1/11/07, Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just a thought: would it be theoretically possible to designate some device as a system-wide write cache for all FS writes? Not just ZFS, but for everything... In a manner similar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-11 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hello all, Just my two cents on the issue. The Thumper is proving to be a terrific database server in all aspects except latency. While the latency is acceptable, being able to add some degree of battery-backed write cache that ZFS could use would be phenomenal. Best Regards, Jason On 1/11/07,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-11 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Jan 11, 2007, at 15:42, Erik Trimble wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:35 -0800, Richard Elling wrote: The product was called Sun PrestoServ. It was successful for benchmarking and such, but unsuccessful in the market because: + when there is a failure, your data is spread across

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-11 Thread Erik Trimble
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:35 -0800, Richard Elling wrote: > The product was called Sun PrestoServ. It was successful for benchmarking > and such, but unsuccessful in the market because: > > + when there is a failure, your data is spread across multiple > fault domains > > + it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-11 Thread Neil Perrin
Jeremy Teo wrote On 01/11/07 01:38,: On 1/11/07, Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just a thought: would it be theoretically possible to designate some device as a system-wide write cache for all FS writes? Not just ZFS, but for everything... In a manner similar to which we current

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-11 Thread Richard Elling
Erik Trimble wrote: Just a thought: would it be theoretically possible to designate some device as a system-wide write cache for all FS writes? Not just ZFS, but for everything... In a manner similar to which we currently use extra RAM as a cache for FS read (and write, to a certain extent)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-11 Thread Jeremy Teo
On 1/11/07, Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just a thought: would it be theoretically possible to designate some device as a system-wide write cache for all FS writes? Not just ZFS, but for everything... In a manner similar to which we currently use extra RAM as a cache for FS read (

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-11 Thread Erik Trimble
Just a thought: would it be theoretically possible to designate some device as a system-wide write cache for all FS writes? Not just ZFS, but for everything... In a manner similar to which we currently use extra RAM as a cache for FS read (and write, to a certain extent), it would be really

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-05 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Could this ability (separate ZIL device) coupled with an SSD give something like a Thumper the write latency benefit of battery-backed write cache? Best Regards, Jason On 1/5/07, Neil Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote On 01/05/07 11:45,: > Hello Neil, > > Friday, Januar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-05 Thread Neil Perrin
Robert Milkowski wrote On 01/05/07 11:45,: Hello Neil, Friday, January 5, 2007, 4:36:05 PM, you wrote: NP> I'm currently working on putting the ZFS intent log on separate devices NP> which could include seperate disks and nvram/solid state devices. NP> This would help any application using fs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solid State Drives?

2007-01-05 Thread Neil Perrin
I'm currently working on putting the ZFS intent log on separate devices which could include seperate disks and nvram/solid state devices. This would help any application using fsync/O_DSYNC - in particular DB and NFS. From protoyping considerable peformanace improvements have been seen. Neil. Ky