Chris McDonough wrote at 2003-3-11 15:32 -0500:
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 15:22, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> >
> > That's why we're including the correct versions of ZODB and ZEO in
> > Zope itself. That's already the case in Zope 2.6.
>
> Zope 2.6 doesn't yet include ZEO, at least I don't thi
Toby Dickenson wrote:
> There is no amount of reconfiguration that can improve this in Zope2. Zope3
> promises to fix this, but with modular python components rather than modular
> unix components. I would be interested in your thoughts on whether this makes
> a difference.
I don't think modula
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 10:48 pm, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> > You'd probably still want a single master config file for the whole
> > thing, and a tool to check the configuration is valid separate from
> > the process that uses the file to configure itself.
>
> Not I. Large applications with a mast
Chris McDonough wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 17:48, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> > How about, "a lot of code/documentation was removed, and a lot of new
> > code/documentation was added." Don't get hung up on the exact
> > numbers, my point was, a lot of work has gone into "simplifying" the
> > config
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 17:48, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> How about, "a lot of code/documentation was removed, and a lot of new
> code/documentation was added." Don't get hung up on the exact
> numbers, my point was, a lot of work has gone into "simplifying" the
> configuration process, but that the big
Jeremy Hylton wrote:
> I don't know what work means in this context, but think the ZConfig
> project is thorough. In my checkout there are 180k of document, 180k of
> unit tests, and 136k of code. A measure of work that suggests that
> something with 0k of documentation and tests and 136k of code
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:25:09PM -0500, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> > > Oops, I stand corrected. But Zope 2.7 does include ZEO!
> >
> > Very good! But in that case, shouldn't the new Zope 2.7 install and
> > startup stuff support it?
>
> Well, in a typical installation, you won't be running ZE
> > Chris, have you looked at ZEO/mkzeoinst.py? It uses a somewhat
> > simpler approach than the new Zope setup, but it creates a zeoctl
> > script and a zeo.conf configuration file.
> Cool! I didn't know.
>
> Do you think we should tell people that if they want to run a ZEO server
> to just ru
Cool! I didn't know.
Do you think we should tell people that if they want to run a ZEO server
to just run mkzeoinst from the software home resulting from Zope's "make
install" and to edit zope.conf to use a ClientStorage?
> Chris, have you looked at ZEO/mkzeoinst.py? It uses a somewhat
> simple
> > Very good! But in that case, shouldn't the new Zope 2.7 install and
> > startup stuff support it?
>
> It does. It's just that the default setup is still to use a non-ZEOd
> FileStorage for your main database. But you can change options in the
> config file to make it use a ZEO ClientStorag
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 16:12, Dan L. Pierson wrote:
> Very good! But in that case, shouldn't the new Zope 2.7 install and
> startup stuff support it?
It does. It's just that the default setup is still to use a non-ZEOd
FileStorage for your main database. But you can change options in the
config
Steve Alexander wrote:
> > But lo, still you won't be able to do something as
> >mundane as limit the memory the FTP server is able to consume without
> >affecting the HTTP server.
>
> You can do this with Zope. Just use ZEO and run one ZEO front-end for
> HTTP and one for FTP.
Sure, but then yo
> > Oops, I stand corrected. But Zope 2.7 does include ZEO!
>
> Very good! But in that case, shouldn't the new Zope 2.7 install and
> startup stuff support it?
Well, in a typical installation, you won't be running ZEO on the same
machine as Zope, right? ZEO has its own install and config stuf
--On Tuesday, March 11, 2003 03:43:33 PM -0500 Guido van Rossum
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 15:22, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
> That's why we're including the correct versions of ZODB and ZEO in
> Zope itself. That's already the case in Zope 2.6.
Zope 2.6 doesn't yet include
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 15:22, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> >
> > That's why we're including the correct versions of ZODB and ZEO in
> > Zope itself. That's already the case in Zope 2.6.
>
> Zope 2.6 doesn't yet include ZEO, at least I don't think it does. ;-)
Oops, I stand corrected. But Zope 2.
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 15:22, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
> That's why we're including the correct versions of ZODB and ZEO in
> Zope itself. That's already the case in Zope 2.6.
Zope 2.6 doesn't yet include ZEO, at least I don't think it does. ;-)
- C
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> I'm not dismissing it, and I think you need to go back and read what I
> wrote again very very carefully without reading anything into it. I'm
> not trying to imply that using environment variables to configure the
> current codebase will reduce the code footprint. Even if it did,
> because of
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:01:53AM -0500, Dan L. Pierson wrote:
> I don't see an equivalent to "./zctl.py debug" anywhere. This starts up an
> interactive Python as
> a ZEO client with ZServer and Zope imported and app = Zope.app(). I use it
> constantly. Please?
+1. I also use zctl.py debug
> But lo, still you won't be able to do something as
mundane as limit the memory the FTP server is able to consume without
affecting the HTTP server.
You can do this with Zope. Just use ZEO and run one ZEO front-end for
HTTP and one for FTP.
--
Steve Alexander
> The point I'm trying to make is that Zope has learned nothing from the
> UNIX philosophy. Yes, you can extend the config schema. You can grow
> new, better config files, of extraordinary magnitude. The
> all-powerful server will grow from being all-powerful to being
> all-powerful + n. It wil
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:31:13PM -0500, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> Detaching, or "daemonizing", will be a separate configuration
> parameter from everything else.
great, that is exactly what i really want.
--
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Edward Muller writes:
> Actually I like the way z2.py detaches or doesn't detach. Perhaps a
> separate config option would be good to control this.
Detaching, or "daemonizing", will be a separate configuration
parameter from everything else. The basic mechanism will be that
provided by the zdc
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 17:07, Paul Winkler wrote:
> A few questions / concerns listed below, otherwise it looks
> fine to me...
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:41:48PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > debug mode
>
> does this still toggle a whole bunch of things?
>
> > production installation
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:42, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> Chris McDonough wrote:
> The point I'm trying to make is that Zope has learned nothing from the
> UNIX philosophy. Yes, you can extend the config schema. You can grow
> new, better config files, of extraordinary magnitude. The
> all-powerful se
Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> Before dismissing it out of hand, I'd encourage you to try it out.
I'm not dismissing it, and I think you need to go back and read what I
wrote again very very carefully without reading anything into it. I'm
not trying to imply that using environment variables to con
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 19:51, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> > - Environment variables are no longer used for configuration.
>
> I'll say it one more time.
>
> The roadmap[1] states under the "Simplifying the Zope experience"
> section:
>
> * simple tasks should be simple!
>
> Now, code required to
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