free techno this thursday 3/15
ill be the one dancingcome say hi March 22 (Thursday) xol Bringing to you a party dedicated to techno soul. Featuring- S^2 (Minority Recs., and spinning detriot techno) Dex (Dublab.com) Olie (Feel Artist Mgmt.) This event will be located at "La Posada" 648 S. Sunset Ave. West Covina, CA. 18+ & full bar for 21+ w/i.d. Free before 10pm $5 after This event will go from 9pm-2am (909)523-5007 (909)448-2994 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This event will be exploring the sounds of Techno. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
430 West Party - DEMF Weekend
Found this info at 430west.com... 27 may 2001 Detroit, MI (USA) 430 West special event Lawrence Burden/Octave One (DJ set) Terrence Parker (DJ set) WildPlanet (Live) DJ Di'jital (DJ set) Lorne Burden (DJ set) Cheers.
Re: [313] Isn't this all just about a party???
I've had more than a few people ask me "dood!...what was that track you were just playing?" I have no problem showing them the record or telling them. What could you possibly gain by keeping your records a secret and not telling folks what you're playing? I mean, other than gaining a rep for being an ass? What does it hurt to tell someone what they were listening to? "Scott Brandon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/12/2001 03:44:34 PM To: <313@hyperreal.org> cc: "Scott Brandon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [313] Isn't this all just about a party??? Whoa!!! I think this 'label' discussion is a perfect example of how crazy this whole DJ thing has gotten in the past 5 or so years... Not to ruin the fun for anybody, but a DJ's set is not really a religious experience, it mainly is not a piece of artistic expression, it is just some good records being played to keep the party flowing, and that's what's it's been since it's beginning in detroit (think of what was being played at the prep scene parties, hardly stuff that was unknown or secretive)... As far as mixing and all that stuff, it's really just a way to keep the floor moving and the party jumping, not necessarily as a way to show how 'good' or 'talented' you are... Anyone can spin records with enough practice... There is innovation on the decks, but most everything has been done before, and with enough practice can be done by anybody... The best DJ's just rock the party IMHO... How this relates to the 'taking off labels' discussion is this... If you feel the need to take off your labels, go ahead... But you're being a complete prick... Crap like this ticks me off... like "I'm so cool I don't want anyone to know what records I'm playing"... This is music & ideas something that should be shared with everyone, and anyone... I saw Derrick May in Connecticut a few months back and it was the first time I heard the "Force" record by Technasia... I had to find out what record it was, so I waited for an appropriate time after his set, and asked him what that 5th or so record he played was with the white jacket... And he was more than nice about flipping through his records (he truly didn't know what he had played as was mentioned earlier in the thread), till I saw it... Then he let me write down all the info, and told me when I e-mailed them about the record that I should mention he played it... Very cool I thought... Now that is the way it should be... Derrick may IMHO is the best DJ in the world period, and if he's not too big to share the music he plays than who the hell else is??? We should be a family, not a bunch of spy's trying to keep what's good away from each other... In My humble opinion at least.. scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Isn't this all just about a party???
Whoa!!! I think this 'label' discussion is a perfect example of how crazy this whole DJ thing has gotten in the past 5 or so years... Not to ruin the fun for anybody, but a DJ's set is not really a religious experience, it mainly is not a piece of artistic expression, it is just some good records being played to keep the party flowing, and that's what's it's been since it's beginning in detroit (think of what was being played at the prep scene parties, hardly stuff that was unknown or secretive)... As far as mixing and all that stuff, it's really just a way to keep the floor moving and the party jumping, not necessarily as a way to show how 'good' or 'talented' you are... Anyone can spin records with enough practice... There is innovation on the decks, but most everything has been done before, and with enough practice can be done by anybody... The best DJ's just rock the party IMHO... How this relates to the 'taking off labels' discussion is this... If you feel the need to take off your labels, go ahead... But you're being a complete prick... Crap like this ticks me off... like "I'm so cool I don't want anyone to know what records I'm playing"... This is music & ideas something that should be shared with everyone, and anyone... I saw Derrick May in Connecticut a few months back and it was the first time I heard the "Force" record by Technasia... I had to find out what record it was, so I waited for an appropriate time after his set, and asked him what that 5th or so record he played was with the white jacket... And he was more than nice about flipping through his records (he truly didn't know what he had played as was mentioned earlier in the thread), till I saw it... Then he let me write down all the info, and told me when I e-mailed them about the record that I should mention he played it... Very cool I thought... Now that is the way it should be... Derrick may IMHO is the best DJ in the world period, and if he's not too big to share the music he plays than who the hell else is??? We should be a family, not a bunch of spy's trying to keep what's good away from each other... In My humble opinion at least.. scott
vinyl press
can't remember who wanted this but, there's a competitor to the vestax one... I don't know how they're supposed to shape up but here's a url: http://www.mixmachines.com/products/kingston.html it seems like a lot to ask of a technics to put up the kind of torque to cut vinyl (even special vinyl or whatever) but I'm still interested... there's a cottage industry just waiting for the first record shop to buy one of these, or the Vestax, and churn out dubplates for all their wannabe DJ / producer customers. seth _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
re: sound system wars -(was removing labels)
I'm getting way OT here, but... I recommend a book called "Bass Culture: when reggae was king" by lloyd bradley. It's the whole story of that Prince Buster / Sir Coxsone / Duke Reid sound system war and as well as being a damned good read, Lloyd Bradley is one of the coolest b**tards alive, and I'm proud to be able to give him a bit of my hard-earned cash. Detroit connection? I seem to remember that LLoyd bradley once played with George Clinton. If anyone can remember which band that was with I'd much appreciate it... hasta seth Sometimes these battles were literally just that. If my memory of reggae history serves me right I believe it was Coxsone (one of the major soundsystem runners) who would send thugs out to the rival soundsystems to bust them up... guns, bottles, rocks, knives the real deal. He would often do this to find out what song was driving another crowd nuts. Remove the label and he can't do that. He may destroy all your equipment but he wouldn't find out that hot tune was. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] taking off pants
Go to a rave on the west coast... Take care, DJ fun-fur trowsers chris, waiting to see more djs in funny suits. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] looking for a vinyl press...
Hello, Just bear in mind that this is a glorified dub-plate lathe, and not a real press. You cannot produce large pressings from a metal master plate with this machine. Also, I had heard that you cannot make a durable pressing with this unit(40 plays max,) has this changed since the last revision? Take care, Mike From: "M Elliot-Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] looking for a vinyl press... Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:09:12 - I think Vestax was actually marketing one that you could use to cut your own records at home. Check them out http://www.vestax.co.uk/flash/ It's the VRX-2000: Vinyl Recorder From their website: After many months of hard design work the VRX-2000 vinyl cutting machine is now almost ready for release. Initially shown at the PLASA show in London in September 1999, this machine has now changed quite drastically in both looks and features. At this years PLASA, the new VRX was demonstrated live on the Vestax stand, with records being cut straight from a cd source in front of a very excited audience. Since this show further adjustments have been made, and in early October the first production run of cutting heads was started in Japan. Once these have been thoroughly tested the first few machines will be despatched around the world. Initial quantities will be very limited as each unit will need to be checked carefully before shipping. We already know that demand is extremely high so please be patient. The VRX-2000 takes a standard line level feed, either balanced or unbalanced, and there is an internal amplifier, equaliser and limiter. The limiter can be switched off to allow use of higher quality external devices if they are available to the user. The stereo recording is then cut into the new 12 vinyl discs with a maximum recording time of 15 minutes per side. Optional 10 and 12 lacquers can also be used for recording, although these will obviously not be as long-lasting as the vinyl Hermodisk. The sapphire stylus is expected to last approximately 20 hours, although this will depend greatly on how it is used. Frequency response is extremely difficult to measure accurately, but those who have listened carefully to the latest prototypes have been extremely impressed, with very little noticeable difference between the original and new cut. The final price is still not confirmed but the expected UK rrp is £6000 (excluding VAT). This price will include an initial training session, which is essential for anyone who wishes to use this machine. The replacement stylus will cost around £250 and blank vinyl disks will be around £10 each. A firm price will be released by each individual country when the first units are shipped. Please contact your local distributor for further details. Luck to you MEK From: joshtwentythree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] looking for a vinyl press... Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:02:33 -0800 (PST) I need help...I'm looking for a place that I could purchase a vinyl press from, I'm trying to figure some things out, and want to get pricing on the actual presses themselves, I can find tons of places that will press vinyl, but I can't find a press itself...any help? josh23 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] taking off pants
In some circles (like childrens' parties) they do just that. They are doing their job for their audience. If you were a mobile jock and you started playing Jeff Mills at some wedding or kids b-day party chances are you would get your ass shown to the door. So my point still stands. The primary purpose of the DJ is not to expose music but to entertain the audience... this is important for ANY type of DJ to remember regardless of genre or "scene". It keeps you humble to know that it is not you that is so f*cking important but the audience's _experience_ of you. When I'm done with a set I don't ask "was I good?" I ask "did you enjoy it?" However, we are now wy off topic. If you want to continue please email me privately. MEK From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: M Elliot-Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] taking off pants Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:01:15 -0500 (EST) > >The DJs primary purpose is to expose music. That is the original > >history of DJing. It is how this all started. A lot of things have >changed > >since the early days of radio, but I fail to see how the DJs >primary > >obligation to expose artists has ever mutated. > > I'm sorry, I must disagree with you on this fine point. The primary purpose > of the DJ is to entertain an audience. If a DJ's primary purpose was to > expose artists then a DJ could play a set of terrible artists and do it > really poorly and yet they would still be doing their job well because they > are exposing artists. well, by the same logic, a dj could put on a funny suit, make balloon animals, and play crappy records, and still be doing his job well, because they're entertaining their audience. 2 sides to every coin. chris, waiting to see more djs in funny suits. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] looking for a vinyl press...
I think Vestax was actually marketing one that you could use to cut your own records at home. Check them out http://www.vestax.co.uk/flash/ It's the VRX-2000: Vinyl Recorder From their website: After many months of hard design work the VRX-2000 vinyl cutting machine is now almost ready for release. Initially shown at the PLASA show in London in September 1999, this machine has now changed quite drastically in both looks and features. At this years PLASA, the new VRX was demonstrated live on the Vestax stand, with records being cut straight from a cd source in front of a very excited audience. Since this show further adjustments have been made, and in early October the first production run of cutting heads was started in Japan. Once these have been thoroughly tested the first few machines will be despatched around the world. Initial quantities will be very limited as each unit will need to be checked carefully before shipping. We already know that demand is extremely high so please be patient. The VRX-2000 takes a standard line level feed, either balanced or unbalanced, and there is an internal amplifier, equaliser and limiter. The limiter can be switched off to allow use of higher quality external devices if they are available to the user. The stereo recording is then cut into the new 12 vinyl discs with a maximum recording time of 15 minutes per side. Optional 10 and 12 lacquers can also be used for recording, although these will obviously not be as long-lasting as the vinyl Hermodisk. The sapphire stylus is expected to last approximately 20 hours, although this will depend greatly on how it is used. Frequency response is extremely difficult to measure accurately, but those who have listened carefully to the latest prototypes have been extremely impressed, with very little noticeable difference between the original and new cut. The final price is still not confirmed but the expected UK rrp is £6000 (excluding VAT). This price will include an initial training session, which is essential for anyone who wishes to use this machine. The replacement stylus will cost around £250 and blank vinyl disks will be around £10 each. A firm price will be released by each individual country when the first units are shipped. Please contact your local distributor for further details. Luck to you MEK From: joshtwentythree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] looking for a vinyl press... Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:02:33 -0800 (PST) I need help...I'm looking for a place that I could purchase a vinyl press from, I'm trying to figure some things out, and want to get pricing on the actual presses themselves, I can find tons of places that will press vinyl, but I can't find a press itself...any help? josh23 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Bolz Bolz
I don't care who they are I just would like to know what their discog is... because I deserve it ;) MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] taking off pants
> >The DJs primary purpose is to expose music. That is the original > >history of DJing. It is how this all started. A lot of things have >changed > >since the early days of radio, but I fail to see how the DJs >primary > >obligation to expose artists has ever mutated. > > I'm sorry, I must disagree with you on this fine point. The primary purpose > of the DJ is to entertain an audience. If a DJ's primary purpose was to > expose artists then a DJ could play a set of terrible artists and do it > really poorly and yet they would still be doing their job well because they > are exposing artists. well, by the same logic, a dj could put on a funny suit, make balloon animals, and play crappy records, and still be doing his job well, because they're entertaining their audience. 2 sides to every coin. chris, waiting to see more djs in funny suits.
looking for a vinyl press...
I need help...I'm looking for a place that I could purchase a vinyl press from, I'm trying to figure some things out, and want to get pricing on the actual presses themselves, I can find tons of places that will press vinyl, but I can't find a press itself...any help? josh23 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] taking off labels
Re: The DJs primary purpose is to expose music. That is the original history of DJing. It is how this all started. A lot of things have >changed since the early days of radio, but I fail to see how the DJs >primary obligation to expose artists has ever mutated. I'm sorry, I must disagree with you on this fine point. The primary purpose of the DJ is to entertain an audience. If a DJ's primary purpose was to expose artists then a DJ could play a set of terrible artists and do it really poorly and yet they would still be doing their job well because they are exposing artists. Regarding the early days of radio, the DJ's purpose then was to entertain or keep an audience captive so that they could sell commercials (just as it is today on mainstream radio). Entertaining an audience is always job #1 regardless if you are a mobile wedding/birthday party jock or Superstar DJ Fancypants. MEK From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>, "Jeffrey Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [313] taking off labels Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:27:14 -0500 -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jayson B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Monday, March 12, 2001 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [313] taking off labels >At 12:05 AM 3/12/2001, Jayson B. wrote: >>Like someone said earlier, your forgetting that somebody WROTE that track >>and i'm sure they would want people to hear it and own it. >> > >Agreed, but the dj is doing them a favor by playing it... he's not >prohibiting the promotion of the track or anything like that, simply >promoting a nameless track, at that point. It's certainly not detrimental >to the track itself, when you consider that you'd never have even heard it >to want it had the dj not played it for you (assumming it's something >you've never heard before). But this is why clubs are required to pay BMI and ASCAP dues. Royalties are a legal requirement. There is a sound principal at work. If a club or radio plays a song, the artist deserves (funny word) to get some reimbursement for it. It's a generally accepted means of exposure. Not all clubs pay dues, but they are liable to be shut down if they don't. Similarly not all underground labels are members of BMI or ASCAP. The issue is that but for this system, clubs would not have the authorization to play *any* music. It's a flawed system, but it illustrates the principal at work. The idea of paying admission is based on this principle. The question isn't "why shouldn't you take labels off", it's "how can you justify doing it"? I have yet to hear a sound argument as to why it's OK to steal that exposure from the artists. Maybe the question should be "why are clubs not required to post a tracklist at the end of a set"? That may be extreme and hard to implement, but you can see what I'm getting at. We're fortunate to be able to hear music before we buy it through whatever sanctioned or unsanctioned means are availalable to us. We're fortunate that laws aren't stricter, requiring that each track's info be announced every time it's played (this would be annoying in a club). The DJs primary purpose is to expose music. That is the original history of DJing. It is how this all started. A lot of things have changed since the early days of radio, but I fail to see how the DJs primary obligation to expose artists has ever mutated. Tristan -- Lots of music, pics and info here: http://www.mp3.com/stations/313 http://www.mp3.com/Frogbot http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] on AOL IM _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] taking off labels
so to get the label off you just put it in water right?? :D *please note the little smiley face above* ab [flip the scrip and down pitch the speed] >At 12:05 AM 3/12/2001, Jayson B. wrote: >>Like someone said earlier, your forgetting that somebody WROTE that track >>and i'm sure they would want people to hear it and own it. >> > >Agreed, but the dj is doing them a favor by playing it... he's not >prohibiting the promotion of the track or anything like that, simply >promoting a nameless track, at that point. It's certainly not detrimental >to the track itself, when you consider that you'd never have even heard it >to want it had the dj not played it for you (assumming it's something >you've never heard before). But this is why clubs are required to pay BMI and ASCAP dues. Royalties are a legal requirement. There is a sound principal at work. If a club or radio plays a song, the artist deserves (funny word) to get some reimbursement for it. It's a generally accepted means of exposure. Not all clubs pay dues, but they are liable to be shut down if they don't. Similarly not all underground labels are members of BMI or ASCAP. The issue is that but for this system, clubs would not have the authorization to play *any* music. It's a flawed system, but it illustrates the principal at work. The idea of paying admission is based on this principle. The question isn't "why shouldn't you take labels off", it's "how can you justify doing it"? I have yet to hear a sound argument as to why it's OK to steal that exposure from the artists. Maybe the question should be "why are clubs not required to post a tracklist at the end of a set"? That may be extreme and hard to implement, but you can see what I'm getting at. We're fortunate to be able to hear music before we buy it through whatever sanctioned or unsanctioned means are availalable to us. We're fortunate that laws aren't stricter, requiring that each track's info be announced every time it's played (this would be annoying in a club). The DJs primary purpose is to expose music. That is the original history of DJing. It is how this all started. A lot of things have changed since the early days of radio, but I fail to see how the DJs primary obligation to expose artists has ever mutated. Tristan -- Lots of music, pics and info here: http://www.mp3.com/stations/313 http://www.mp3.com/Frogbot http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] on AOL IM _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Autecher @ DEMF
I think we should all just stay nice and calm and not talk of any more 'potentials' or 'maybes' or 'confirmed' artists on the list until the press conference. just a big hunch I have. lots of luv for your monday afternoon tea diana --- "Dr. Robot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this had better not be a joke. i am so excited, > someone please varify. > please > > > > mike > > p.s. its spelled autechre > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] taking off labels
Re: The whole thing with removing labels is something that has come from the Jamacian sound system parties and early hip hop battles in the Bronx with DJs like Kool Herc. Kool Herc (Clive Campbell) himself was from Jamacia and brought this tradition of removing labels to American DJs (or selecters) when he moved to NYC. The DJs ran sound systems and would often have to battle with other >systems to draw the biggest crowds and being able to play certain tunes >that your rivals didn't know of was an important factor. Sometimes these battles were literally just that. If my memory of reggae history serves me right I believe it was Coxsone (one of the major soundsystem runners) who would send thugs out to the rival soundsystems to bust them up... guns, bottles, rocks, knives the real deal. He would often do this to find out what song was driving another crowd nuts. Remove the label and he can't do that. He may destroy all your equipment but he wouldn't find out that hot tune was. MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Autecher @ DEMF
this had better not be a joke. i am so excited, someone please varify. please mike p.s. its spelled autechre _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Shameless Self-Promotion ;)
Hey all, just to let everyone know who is in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) that I will be spinning at the former 1 TRAK Wednesday night. It has been taken over by another promoter and I have been invited back. It's this Wednesday night at Times Square in Waterloo (35 King St. East). I will be spinning with Chad of Speed fame, I think Chad and I are going to tag team for an hour or so. Should be an interesting night, come check it out and have some beers if your free. That's it, thanks.. MM _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
SCSI records
Hi all, I was wondering if someone could help me to find a good 'scsi records' distributor 'Carl A Finlow as Silicon Scally' it seems tricky to find... thanks in advance cheers Adrien
Re: [313] Autecher @ DEMF
Just curious - where did you get this info? I hope you're not teasing me :) --- darw_n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just found out that they will be there for those who > want to know things as > early as possible... > > darw_n > > "create, demonstrate, toneshift..." > > http://www.thedemonstration.com > http://www.sphereproductions.com > http://www.mannequinodd.com > search "djdarwin" on napster > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: taking off labels
Instead of running up and seeing what the fresh piece of vinyl making the rotation on someone else's table is, if you really like a song that much... go dance to it! You can always ask around later. I'm no DJ, but I'm betting that the DJ would enjoy to see people dancing a little more than people standing around trying to figure out what he's playing. --- Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:42:10 - To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: (don't) take off labels <> __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Autecher @ DEMF
Just found out that they will be there for those who want to know things as early as possible... darw_n "create, demonstrate, toneshift..." http://www.thedemonstration.com http://www.sphereproductions.com http://www.mannequinodd.com search "djdarwin" on napster
Re: [313] doppleroids
It's the same people as in Drexciya. If that's also Dopplereffekt, I don't know, but they are getting uppity about revealing who's who on 313 - rightly so - so I wouldn't expect anyone will tell you any more :) Jonny. > Hi all, > > just listening to elecktroids "elektro world" on warp and it sounds just > like heinrich & rudolf .. The vocoder especially on "japanese electronics" .. > is dopplereffect behind this? > > > > btw. my posting about mr. Mills being in RecordTime in Detroit and all you > nice folks that came to visit him, chatted and got the autograph, I meant > it as a joke cause to me it sounds like any artist promotion of any genre, > something I dont like. The music gets lost. Funnily not a single reply I > got was anything near this. > > > > Daniel
Re: [313] doppleroids
> just listening to elecktroids "elektro world" on warp and it sounds just > like heinrich & rudolf .. The vocoder especially on "japanese electronics" .. > is dopplereffect behind this? YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT DOPPLEREFFEKT OR DREXCIYA. IF THEY WANTED YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS, THEY WOULD'VE GIVEN THE ANSWERS BEFOREHAND. SO MUCH DISRESPECT! DON'T YOU KNOW THEY'RE ARTISTS?
doppleroids
Hi all, just listening to elecktroids "elektro world" on warp and it sounds just like heinrich & rudolf .. The vocoder especially on "japanese electronics" .. is dopplereffect behind this? btw. my posting about mr. Mills being in RecordTime in Detroit and all you nice folks that came to visit him, chatted and got the autograph, I meant it as a joke cause to me it sounds like any artist promotion of any genre, something I dont like. The music gets lost. Funnily not a single reply I got was anything near this. Daniel
Farina at motor track list?
I am not sure when Farina's mix will be put on paxhau but I would be very interested in a track listing from anyone that could assist. thanks matthew Matthew Gerbasi |l| Darcy Detroit lll Cadillac Regional Traffic|l| 248-458-8567|l| [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Eliminate your ego by having self confidence without pride" -- Basi
Re: [313] OT:anyone go to Fab Ruins night at Cass Cafe?
- Original Message - From: "J AC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> > I watched Internet Tonight on TechTV and they had a short segment on the > Fabulous Ruins website... the host mentioned that there was a Fabulous Ruins > night at the Cass Cafe in Feb. Did anyone catch it? Did they have any photos > or architectural models on display? Who spun at it? Thanks, Jace > _ i was there...i've never seen the cass cafe so packed. there was a looping slide show displaying photos of ruins, new development, & events (such as the demf). t. linder spun. it was heartening to meet & drink with so many folks so passionate about our fair city. i urge those of you who have yet to enjoy the fabulous ruins to point or type your way to http://detroityes.com. kbk
SL03
So I'm listening to Mathew Herbert's set on Betalounge and he played this awesome track written by Drew Daniel of Matmos. I looked at "Sounds Like"'s site and it says the track isn't officially named yet and just has "Soft Pink Truth" listed as the artist. It's a pop/glitchy funky track.. Has this officially come out under a name or other artist title? I checked Bent Crayon under "Soft Pink Truth" and nothing was listed..same with r/t.com any help is good help. thanks D from the site: As yet untitled but out in the new year, this kick-ass 12 has already been turning a few heads when i've played it out. It's written by Drew Daniel from Matmos, one of the underground's brightest acts. Their new album, 'A chance to cut is a chance to cure' is written around the sounds of surgical procedures. In my Doctor Rockit guise I got to perform surgery on a track of theirs made out of a nose job operation. Anyway, this is Drew's solo project and is a mix of funk, house and intricate techno-style programming that is funny and deadly serious by turns. I must say how excited i am to release such a record and I wish there were more records like this out there. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Odic Force
Spreading the word about the D I have a write up about detroit lable Odic Force on Toronto site www.neksis.com if anyone is interested peace matthew Matthew Gerbasi |l| Darcy Detroit lll Cadillac Regional Traffic|l| 248-458-8567|l| [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Eliminate your ego by having self confidence without pride" -- Basi
Neferiu 12/3/01
** New tracks added to the mp3 section: *ps - becausethedayafter ambience relays the message back to our heads before we can drive it out with our own thoughts. waiting. time comes to a standstill and the liquid drops of infinite patter against the cement floor. puddles splashing when they fill up but you can never move to break free. watching this entire reality happen before your eyes. not being able to involve yourself. you want to give up but your heart wont let you. summoning your strength from within you vow to yourself that you will break free of this eternity. you will be able to contribute to the world that you know. clenching your fists. blood rushing through your ears. intensity magnifies. it is yours again. * mantra - bobble penetrationohsocontinuouswhatisthisallaboutandwhyareyouaskingmetoexplainitid likeforyoutostopforamomentthinkofwhatmakesyousmilenowthinkofhavingthepow ertobringthatfeelingtoyourmindanytimeyoulikethatismusicformebobbleissimplici tyinlife...watchingthepeopleonthesidewalkasirollalonginthebuswiththesuntouch ingdownonmyfaceorvideogamesonarainydayatafriendshousewheniwas10. mimimal drum cutups and self interested basslines surround until they fade to nothing allowing the growth and reassurance of a preservated reality. grungy melodies come in with reservation and dance us to the point of knowing why people like us do the things we do. Download the tracks for free from Neferiu Records ( www.neferiu.com ). Feedback welcome at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and encouraged for each individual artists email. peace. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.neferiu.com
Re: [313] Discographies Book
on 3/11/01 11:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Has anyone read Ewan Pearson & Jermey Gilbert's book Discographies on dance > music culture - it's published by Routledge so it must be fairly academic. > How does it compare to Reynolds? Academic, yes. UK-centric, yes. Worthwhile, yes. Life-changing, no. I can't comment on how it compares to Reynolds, but there are a few interesting areas of exploration, especially related to gender roles, and the sometimes self-defeating attitudes of hardline undergrounders. Happy chin-stroking... -- There4IM
Re: [313] Ectomorph in New York
Just a reminder for those interested in Electro, and are in New York City this week. Elliot Taub wrote: > WEDNESDAY MARCH 14TH > > at FUN 130 Madison St., under the Manhattan Bridge in Chinatown > > ECTOMORPH live > JOHN SELWAY (Ultra, Serotonin Records) > ULYSSES (Scatalogics, Temple Records) > > Electronic video accompaniment by DVLABS and Bill Etra. > > (Note: Bill Etra invented the Rutt-Etra Video Synthesizer in 1972, and > will be bringing one to the party. Bill has worked with the likes of > both Bob Moog and Nam Jun Paik. It should be a pretty stellar > experience, considering the 5,000sf of wall space FUN has -- basically > three of the four very tall walls -- for video projection. Check out the > website for realaudio examples of the work and photos of the machine and > its creators: > http://www.audiovisualizers.com/toolshak/vidsynth/ruttetra/ruttetra.htm) > > $10 cover, 21 and Over. for more info: www.scatalogics.com, > www.fun-ny.com -- S C A T A L O G I C S www.scatalogics.com Graphic Design Party Promotion Disc Jockeys 718-204-8434 646-752-6262
RE: [313] Kirk Degorgio
some exiting news on that site http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com "Also getting the remix treatment is Kirk's first pure techno release for some years! Carl Craig is on the remix duties this time for a re-appearence of Kirk's Esoterik moniker from the days of ART. To be released on EMI's new House/ Techno imprint New Religion early this year 'Nairobi' and an as yet untitled flipside are already tearing it up in Carl Craig's worldwide DJ sets. " At 12-3-01 +0100 11:48, you wrote: > by the way, what's this guy up to these days ? all I remember > from him are > the ART series (if I'm not mistaken) and his 'As one" record > on Mo' Wax... > Gwendal DJ-ing, producing and remixing :) (he is doing a remix for Delsin), check out his website: .. . :: http://nomorewords.net
Re: [313] taking off labels
-Original Message- From: Jeffrey Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jayson B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Monday, March 12, 2001 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [313] taking off labels >At 12:05 AM 3/12/2001, Jayson B. wrote: >>Like someone said earlier, your forgetting that somebody WROTE that track >>and i'm sure they would want people to hear it and own it. >> > >Agreed, but the dj is doing them a favor by playing it... he's not >prohibiting the promotion of the track or anything like that, simply >promoting a nameless track, at that point. It's certainly not detrimental >to the track itself, when you consider that you'd never have even heard it >to want it had the dj not played it for you (assumming it's something >you've never heard before). But this is why clubs are required to pay BMI and ASCAP dues. Royalties are a legal requirement. There is a sound principal at work. If a club or radio plays a song, the artist deserves (funny word) to get some reimbursement for it. It's a generally accepted means of exposure. Not all clubs pay dues, but they are liable to be shut down if they don't. Similarly not all underground labels are members of BMI or ASCAP. The issue is that but for this system, clubs would not have the authorization to play *any* music. It's a flawed system, but it illustrates the principal at work. The idea of paying admission is based on this principle. The question isn't "why shouldn't you take labels off", it's "how can you justify doing it"? I have yet to hear a sound argument as to why it's OK to steal that exposure from the artists. Maybe the question should be "why are clubs not required to post a tracklist at the end of a set"? That may be extreme and hard to implement, but you can see what I'm getting at. We're fortunate to be able to hear music before we buy it through whatever sanctioned or unsanctioned means are availalable to us. We're fortunate that laws aren't stricter, requiring that each track's info be announced every time it's played (this would be annoying in a club). The DJs primary purpose is to expose music. That is the original history of DJing. It is how this all started. A lot of things have changed since the early days of radio, but I fail to see how the DJs primary obligation to expose artists has ever mutated. Tristan -- Lots of music, pics and info here: http://www.mp3.com/stations/313 http://www.mp3.com/Frogbot http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] on AOL IM _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] taking off labels
This was a practice picked up by the Northen Soul Djs in the UK who played almost exclusivly rare and old Detroit soul. actually, this is a bit wrong... Northern Soulies have always told the name of the tune. It was the importance of owning the track rather than knowing the name. Once it had been 'broken' they were all for telling folk since they'd be highly unlikely to ever get it, since some of the records were b-sides and outtakes which were never even released and were only found twenty-odd years later by trawling through warehouses. Also, they didn't all play old detroit soul. much (if not most) 'Northern Soul' was actually Mississippi based as -particularly around Wigan- the DJ's were after a particular 'driving' sound, and with detroit sound you just don't get the kick drums... It's an interesting point however that the sound in Yorkshire, mainly cleethorpes, (less famous and less well reported than Wigan / Manchester) is somewhat sweeter and more detroit based. A large number of northern soul DJ's will often toast their records trojan-style, including last time I saw them both Keb Darge and Dave Godin, and the same happens on some old (really really old) tapes. hasta, seth "talc" redmond _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
OT:anyone go to Fab Ruins night at Cass Cafe?
I watched Internet Tonight on TechTV and they had a short segment on the Fabulous Ruins website... the host mentioned that there was a Fabulous Ruins night at the Cass Cafe in Feb. Did anyone catch it? Did they have any photos or architectural models on display? Who spun at it? Thanks, Jace _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] Kirk Degorgio
> by the way, what's this guy up to these days ? all I remember > from him are > the ART series (if I'm not mistaken) and his 'As one" record > on Mo' Wax... > Gwendal DJ-ing, producing and remixing :) (he is doing a remix for Delsin), check out his website: http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Kirk Degorgio
you can check www.kirkdegiorgio.com nice web site, btw. with a fine Hall Of Fame section. romain. At 10:47 12/03/01 +0100, you wrote: by the way, what's this guy up to these days ? all I remember from him are the ART series (if I'm not mistaken) and his 'As one" record on Mo' Wax... Gwendal > I've just interviewed Kirk Degorgio who said he's been booked > to play the > Nu-Jazz stage at the DEMF. I imagine a full line up should be > announced > pretty soon :)
Re: [313] Kirk Degorgio
Didn't he have a project on Island Blue due last year ?? - there were these remixes by at least two Detroit identities. I don't think this ever came out as the remixes alone would have made a noise? Of course with all the Universal/Island/etc reschuffles, it could have got lost. >He pops up here and there doing compilations, etc. Last track I know of was on >one of the Sky eps.
Re: [313] Kirk Degorgio
He pops up here and there doing compilations, etc. Last track I know of was on one of the Sky eps. jeff Gwendal Cobert wrote: > by the way, what's this guy up to these days ? all I remember from him are > the ART series (if I'm not mistaken) and his 'As one" record on Mo' Wax... > Gwendal > > > I've just interviewed Kirk Degorgio who said he's been booked > > to play the > > Nu-Jazz stage at the DEMF. I imagine a full line up should be > > announced > > pretty soon :) > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- jeff ?/~THINK OUTSIDE OF YOUR SITCOM~\! ICQ904008 (but I'm never on) > http://www.freedonation.com (costs you nothing. try it)
Re: [313] electro - mass transit
Speaking of great electro records of the year, Keith Tucker's new Optic Nerve 12" 'Pharoah's Doorway' on Delsin is doubly dope. - Original Message - From: Conway, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: [313] electro - mass transit > for those looking for some fresh new takes on electro sounds - check out the > first release on mass transit records out of miami. a killer 4-track ep > with contributions from: > > silicon [v-max] - skeletal beats over wind-chime chords. > voice stealer - carl finlow on fine form > decal - ferocious thumping electo from ireland > airlocktronics - amazing stuff - if you've heard their ep's you'll know this > stuff is unique. > > probably the best electro record i've picked up this year - one for the end > of year lists. > > 'tip' as they say. > > cheers\\ > > sc > > > > > ** > Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) > ** > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
RE: [313] Kirk Degorgio
by the way, what's this guy up to these days ? all I remember from him are the ART series (if I'm not mistaken) and his 'As one" record on Mo' Wax... Gwendal > I've just interviewed Kirk Degorgio who said he's been booked > to play the > Nu-Jazz stage at the DEMF. I imagine a full line up should be > announced > pretty soon :)
Re: [313] taking off labels
At 12:05 AM 3/12/2001, Jayson B. wrote: and that in actually going to a club, fighting your way to the DJ box >and managing to actually decipher the title of a rotating bit of vinyl >you've put in enought work to earn the right to own it. everyone, everyone, EVERYONE has the right to own that music, regardless of trainspotting. agreed. the question is, though, do you have the right to trainspot? i'd think that's up to the dj i mean, if you want a track badly enough, you can always hum the melody until you get home, then sing it into your mic, and post the url to the .mp3 of your drunken drooling to 313 and bug everyone about the awesome track you heard last night. I can kind of understand that an insecure dj might want to hide a super-cool track, but that still doesn't stop you from finding out what it is. If the dj's got it, and it's not a dub plate or a hard-to-find-promo, then you can guess that thousands of copies were stamped out, and all you've got to do is find one. Like someone said earlier, your forgetting that somebody WROTE that track and i'm sure they would want people to hear it and own it. Agreed, but the dj is doing them a favor by playing it... he's not prohibiting the promotion of the track or anything like that, simply promoting a nameless track, at that point. It's certainly not detrimental to the track itself, when you consider that you'd never have even heard it to want it had the dj not played it for you (assumming it's something you've never heard before). and maybe its just me, but that artist should have more control over who *deserves* to own than a dj who wants to keep his records special. Deserves is a funny word. a dj is incapable of keeping his records special, unless access to them is limited. a dj concealing the names of his records is not himself limiting access to them in any way. -j PS: people who cover up or remove the labels for above reasons are wankers. PPS: all your labels are belong to us -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 0x514DB5CB he who lives these words shall not taste death becoming nothing yeah yeah forever liquid cool
Re: [313] taking off labels
OK, we've reached the limit again.
313 is not a #channel, it's not [private email], it's not even
the {ring}{ring} Telephone.
Please, think twice before replying. The list volume has grown
dramatically in the last couple of months, while total content
after removing excess verbiage has fallen. These two factors are
probably related.
A lot of us long-time list participants have gone quiet as a
result. With the DEMF coming up, it's up to all of us to keep
list traffic down to a reasonable level and keep the value up.
out,
phred
Re: [313] taking off labels
and that in actually going to a club, fighting your way to the DJ box >and managing to actually decipher the title of a rotating bit of vinyl >you've put in enought work to earn the right to own it. everyone, everyone, EVERYONE has the right to own that music, regardless of trainspotting. Like someone said earlier, your forgetting that somebody WROTE that track and i'm sure they would want people to hear it and own it. and maybe its just me, but that artist should have more control over who *deserves* to own than a dj who wants to keep his records special. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
OT: records for sale
In need of some extra cash for the summer. So I am letting go of some things. stuff in the auction includes Dan Bell's "Losing Control" on Peacefrog, the last Generator release by Alan Oldham enginefloatreactor a few Bunker 12"s, Surgeon 12's and some Cari Lekebusch 12's as well as some house records '83 to '91 http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=toedawg&include=0&since=-1&sort=8&rows=25 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
electro - mass transit
for those looking for some fresh new takes on electro sounds - check out the first release on mass transit records out of miami. a killer 4-track ep with contributions from: silicon [v-max] - skeletal beats over wind-chime chords. voice stealer - carl finlow on fine form decal - ferocious thumping electo from ireland airlocktronics - amazing stuff - if you've heard their ep's you'll know this stuff is unique. probably the best electro record i've picked up this year - one for the end of year lists. 'tip' as they say. cheers\\ sc ** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) **
