(313) Suburban Knight WAS:RE: (313) 3 posts in one
The Navarre mixes of Suburban Knights Art of Stalking. So is this available on 12 ? ? I asked before and got no answer, this must mean it exists though.. d
Re: (313) Suburban Knight WAS:RE: (313) 3 posts in one
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:52:58 +0200, D.E [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The Navarre mixes of Suburban Knights Art of Stalking. So is this available on 12 ? ? I asked before and got no answer, this must mean it exists though.. This was released on FNAC. Memory is very rusty on this one, but I think it was 3 mixes plus original. Label artwork had a big silver Transmat logo. Release in around 93(?) r./ -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net
Re: (313) Suburban Knight WAS:RE: (313) 3 posts in one
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:52:58 +0200, D.E [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The Navarre mixes of Suburban Knights Art of Stalking. So is this available on 12 ? ? I asked before and got no answer, this must mean it exists though.. This was released on FNAC. Memory is very rusty on this one, but I think it was 3 mixes plus original. Label artwork had a big silver Transmat logo. Release in around 93(?) r./ -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net -- http://fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html
Re: (313) Ms. Cyclone
Sheesh... she's one of the most modest yet informed media types I've had the pleasure of dealing with. r./ On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:35:34 +0100, Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nah, Cyclone is a woman, albeit one who misuses the word 'prosperity'. What's more, she swears that's her birth/given/real name. Hippy parents or something. - Original Message - From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mr. Cyclone I never met Cyclone and have no idea on that entity's gender, and just assumed ... Remember: on the internet nobody knows you're a dog On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, sean deason wrote: wait a minute. Cyclones a guy!!??? wheres Austin Powers when you really need him? :^) p.s. a reward waits for anyone who can tell me Cyclones birth name. come on all you spotters, somebodys gotta know. -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net -- http://fastmail.fm/ - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place
(313) 2 Gentelmen From Tha D
the infamous Gimme 4 Reasons Tracey Chapman bootleg remixes By 2 Gentelmen From Tha D are up for grabs on ebay. sean
(313) Kit Clayton / Sue Costible art performance
I thought some people on this list might be interested in this unique Kit Clayton / Sue Costible multimedia performance setup. It's part of a new media festival of video performances, installations and screenings. www.transcinema.com Interruption Interruption explores the relationship between the concrete world of the everyday and the fantasies we project upon it. During the performance, the artists are laying down, each with a video camera and a microphone suspended close to their faces. The microphones are connected to a custom built audio/video processing system which takes direction from the sounds heard by the microphones and the images seen by the cameras. The theme of interruption is explored in the interaction between the live, narrative audio/video stream and a concurrent, pre-recorded audio/video stream. What is projected on the screen depends upon the artists actions and vocal expressions. _,.., /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ jamie /| /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/,-' hurlbut / / /_/_/_/_/_/_/,-'/ / /_/_/_/_/_/_,:../ / |,' hurlbotics.com |/ '
RE: (313) Suburban Knight WAS:RE: (313) 3 posts in one
I will have to dig a little, but I think I have a CD single with those, cover is an abstract and very colourful painting Gwendal -Original Message- From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:23 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Suburban Knight WAS:RE: (313) 3 posts in one On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:52:58 +0200, D.E [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The Navarre mixes of Suburban Knights Art of Stalking. So is this available on 12 ? ? I asked before and got no answer, this must mean it exists though.. This was released on FNAC. Memory is very rusty on this one, but I think it was 3 mixes plus original. Label artwork had a big silver Transmat logo. Release in around 93(?) r./ -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net -- http://fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html
Re: (313) laura gavoor et al
I guess some of my writer/promotions background makes folks think that I'll always have something to say. And then there's the line of thinking that says, if it's already been said, if you have nothing new to contribute, keep your mouth shut. The other week I was at James Stinson's funeral (Drexciya) and now this. So I'm shell shocked. All of you have spoken well to her memory and I really don't think I have anything I can add that will do any more to communicate what a truly inspirational woman she was, faults and all. In fact, her faults were some of the things that endured me to her. Laura would say things that others might be thinking, but wouldn't. She once said something to me about a situation where she, in her words, put my foot in my mouth. I told her, Naw, everyone else was thinking it, you were just the only one who wasn't scared to open your mouth and be honest about how you felt. She was human. She was openly human. You didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure out, What does she mean? Good or bad, she'd let you know. So I came to respect this woman, long before I got to know her well enough to say that I truly loved her as a person. I called her, not too long ago, because I wanted to know how she was doing, what was going on with her. I'm thinking, it's so cool to be talking to this woman, not for business (though we HAD to talk about the business), but honestly, for the pleasure of it. And she thanked me. And I don't know how other folks interacted with her, but as much as I was inspired by her, she made me feel like I was doing something for her just by calling and BSing on the phone. And (and I know this will sound silly), that was my dance partner (yeah, I know, I'm not alone). I could count on her to not stand on the wall, no question. I am going to miss her on so many levels... _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
(313) Carl Craig Broadcast (UK)
Can anyone recorded this for me? (BT???) London Xpress with Carl Craig This Sunday 6th October from 8 to 10pm (UK time) In London on 104.9 Xfm Across the UK on Sky Digital Channel 864 or through the web at http://www.nuphonic.co.uk/londonxpress http://www.xfm.co.uk/londonxpress For more information on the Workout album visit http://www.react-music.co.uk thanks!
(313) Laura Gavoor
I'm out of town right now and cannot believe this has happened. We have lost another true Warrior. Laura was my vent buddy. When I didn't like something I would call her and vent. When she was upset she would call me and vent. I respected her for her dedication to hard work, love for Detroit and it's music, Passion and Honesty. Life has become more of a focus for me now because of the losses of Laura Gavoor and James Stinson. Laura, I'm very lucky to have been the ear to absorb some of your rants and words of truth. Thank you for being my ear as well. I'm actually jealous of Heaven right now because I know the party up there JUST got live. Peace..Bone Dj Bone and the entire Subject Detroit Family would like to send our sincere condolences to the family and friends of Laura Gavoor. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: (313) Suburban Knight WAS:RE: (313) 3 posts in one
Pesonally I didn't like it much... It came out the same time as acid eiffel and soofle.. Also on fnac and in my opinion it just cut up the original losing all of its dark overpowering loomingness that 'the worlds' had Correct me if I am wrong but that track isn't 'trhe art of stalking' it is the worlds... On the 1st orange pressing on transmat it is labelled up correctly.. On the second..(black w/silver shield) the labels are the othewr way around... Correct me if I am wrong... I know its abit analk for 1st thing on a Friday... But I think I am still drunk so a rant is in order On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:52:58 +0200, D.E [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The Navarre mixes of Suburban Knights Art of Stalking. So is this available on 12 ? ? I asked before and got no answer, this must mean it exists though.. This was released on FNAC. Memory is very rusty on this one, but I think it was 3 mixes plus original. Label artwork had a big silver Transmat logo. Release in around 93(?) r./
Re: (313) Suburban Knight WAS:RE: (313) 3 posts in one
Correct me if I am wrong but that track isn't 'trhe art of stalking' it is the worlds... On the 1st orange pressing on transmat it is labelled up correctly.. On the second..(black w/silver shield) the labels are the othewr way around... Correct me if I am wrong... No, your right, or at least I think you are. I could never quite work it out myself. The remix 12 had 3 remixes and the original of the Art of Stalking. However the 3 remixes are mixes of the other track on the Transmat original. So either they put the wrong original track on the remix EP, or they called the remixes the wrong name, or Transmat got thier labels the wrong way round. Its all a bit confusing, maybe someone could ask JP and get the definitive answer. Stewart ___ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890
Re: (313) Vladisalv Delay
In response to the vladislav delay criticism... A friend wrote... hmm... well. that's an opinion. and s/he's welcome to it. i, on the other hand, had a great time. mainly, i guess, beacause i knew exactly what to expect. and so should anyone who attended, given the blurb on the tate's website, where the words 'contemporary' and 'experimental' feature in the first sentence. i mean, what else were we to expect from one of the world's leading modern art galleries? a largin' it, hands in the air, laser extravaganza? this was a concert/performance, and was billed as such, so why should we expect to be excited by what's on the stage? it's the sound that should be concentrated upon, not the two ugly blokes making it. i enjoyed listening to all three of the acts, for different reasons. parlane's piece emerged from the silence and slowly built, layer upon layer, gradually enveloping the listener as the volume and complexity increased, and then slowly stripping things down again over the period of half an hour or so. it was intimate and affecting. tennis did things differently. the sub-pole/chain reaction ... dub soundscapes description doing them justice i think. again, it was good to listen to. aurally engaging, if you will (if not visually). delay was different again. abstract electronic music - as advertised. he's been moving in this direction for a while, from the early chain reaction stuff to the latest album on mille plateaux (under his own name, not the luomo stuff - but even on the 'vocal city' album you can hear the layering and vocal snippets and cuts that dominated his performance on saturday). moving in and out - both in volume and through the triggering of different samples, etc - delay created a collage of sound that was quietly disturbing but fascinating to explore. the accusation of 'randomness' is one i've come across before, and which, quite frankly, i find boring and lazy. unless we're all being fooled (which i guess is the risk we take) it was delay himself who was taking the decisions as to when and how he chose to play and layer the sounds he produced. there must be intention in theses actions, thus rendering the random accusation useless. it may have been difficult to listen to but by no means impossible. something was being created before our very ears, as it were, something abstract and hard to understand (if, indeed, understanding is required) but beautiful nonetheless. the whole evening was mucically different. it was good to be able to sit down in a dark space with a quality sound system and listen - i mean really LISTEN - to four artists doing their stuff for us. and i was glad to have been given the opportunity. close your eyes and open your ears. If this bloke comes to a town near you anytime soon, make sure you know what you're in for before you attend. Went with a few mates (and a few list members) to see him 'perform' at the Tate Modern gallery in London on Saturday. What a pile of self-indulgent toss (mho). (US members check your thesauri for English slang). It didn't bode well when it emerged that it was sitting room only in the Tate's little theatre ... compare this to to 'Metropolis'/Mills at the Royal Festival Hall ... a compere cautioned us that visiting the toilets during the micro-interval would be met with severe disapproval. The line up was Rosy Parlane (NZ) Tennis (UK) and Mr Delay. Parlane came on and played about one note for nearly 30 minutes. Someone whooped when he finished, many faces turned to where it came from carrying looks which said WHY?!?!?!? (to be fair the whooper might have just been relieved it was over). Tennis probably were the standout, playing sub-Pole/Chain Reaction-esque (but much slower) dub soundscapes and really experimenting with echo. But -(and this applies to all the acts) watching 2 ugly blokes staring intently at the screen of a laptop does not an engaging spectacle make. I have dug some Vladislav Delay tracks a lot in the past and I always respect experimentation. But tell me someone, what is the value of random squelches and other inharmonious noises strung together with vocal snippets which sound like the voices you might hear if you had the misfortune to listen inside the head of a schizophrenic? There were no beats. This in itself need not be a reason for music to be boring or even undanceable - but this was *not* The Detroit Escalator Company - nor even the Vladislav Delay which you'll hear on most of his LPs and a few Chain Reaction titles. This was sheer random noise obfuscation and maybe for that reason it was a brave thing to do. I mean maybe he was baring his soul. But to me he didn't really use 0.5% of the talents which he has in doing that. Strangely, the London (Guardian) Guide billed it in the clubs section! I noted many looking at their watches. Luckily it the whole thing was only about 2 and bit hours long. Tate, spend your
Re: (313) Suburban Knight WAS:RE: (313) 3 posts in one
I have the original and the track that is remixed is 'the worlds' Correct me if I am wrong but that track isn't 'trhe art of stalking' it is the worlds... On the 1st orange pressing on transmat it is labelled up correctly.. On the second..(black w/silver shield) the labels are the othewr way around... Correct me if I am wrong... No, your right, or at least I think you are. I could never quite work it out myself. The remix 12 had 3 remixes and the original of the Art of Stalking. However the 3 remixes are mixes of the other track on the Transmat original. So either they put the wrong original track on the remix EP, or they called the remixes the wrong name, or Transmat got thier labels the wrong way round. Its all a bit confusing, maybe someone could ask JP and get the definitive answer. Stewart ___ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890
Re: (313) Vladisalv Delay
I'd agree with the comments about the soundsystem, it was v.v.good. Yet i found that Delay's soundscape had no coherence or structure to it . Sound collages have been done time and time before, and IMHO there was nothing different or new about this. There seemed to be no method visible (who knows what he was doing on his laptops) and whilst one can be forced into just listening, I'm sure people will appreciate that one must muster one's critical faculties to give an appraisal, rather than just letting it wash over them. - Original Message - From: Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) Vladisalv Delay In response to the vladislav delay criticism... A friend wrote... hmm... well. that's an opinion. and s/he's welcome to it. i, on the other hand, had a great time. mainly, i guess, beacause i knew exactly what to expect. and so should anyone who attended, given the blurb on the tate's website, where the words 'contemporary' and 'experimental' feature in the first sentence. i mean, what else were we to expect from one of the world's leading modern art galleries? a largin' it, hands in the air, laser extravaganza? this was a concert/performance, and was billed as such, so why should we expect to be excited by what's on the stage? it's the sound that should be concentrated upon, not the two ugly blokes making it. i enjoyed listening to all three of the acts, for different reasons. parlane's piece emerged from the silence and slowly built, layer upon layer, gradually enveloping the listener as the volume and complexity increased, and then slowly stripping things down again over the period of half an hour or so. it was intimate and affecting. tennis did things differently. the sub-pole/chain reaction ... dub soundscapes description doing them justice i think. again, it was good to listen to. aurally engaging, if you will (if not visually). delay was different again. abstract electronic music - as advertised. he's been moving in this direction for a while, from the early chain reaction stuff to the latest album on mille plateaux (under his own name, not the luomo stuff - but even on the 'vocal city' album you can hear the layering and vocal snippets and cuts that dominated his performance on saturday). moving in and out - both in volume and through the triggering of different samples, etc - delay created a collage of sound that was quietly disturbing but fascinating to explore. the accusation of 'randomness' is one i've come across before, and which, quite frankly, i find boring and lazy. unless we're all being fooled (which i guess is the risk we take) it was delay himself who was taking the decisions as to when and how he chose to play and layer the sounds he produced. there must be intention in theses actions, thus rendering the random accusation useless. it may have been difficult to listen to but by no means impossible. something was being created before our very ears, as it were, something abstract and hard to understand (if, indeed, understanding is required) but beautiful nonetheless. the whole evening was mucically different. it was good to be able to sit down in a dark space with a quality sound system and listen - i mean really LISTEN - to four artists doing their stuff for us. and i was glad to have been given the opportunity. close your eyes and open your ears. If this bloke comes to a town near you anytime soon, make sure you know what you're in for before you attend. Went with a few mates (and a few list members) to see him 'perform' at the Tate Modern gallery in London on Saturday. What a pile of self-indulgent toss (mho). (US members check your thesauri for English slang). It didn't bode well when it emerged that it was sitting room only in the Tate's little theatre ... compare this to to 'Metropolis'/Mills at the Royal Festival Hall ... a compere cautioned us that visiting the toilets during the micro-interval would be met with severe disapproval. The line up was Rosy Parlane (NZ) Tennis (UK) and Mr Delay. Parlane came on and played about one note for nearly 30 minutes. Someone whooped when he finished, many faces turned to where it came from carrying looks which said WHY?!?!?!? (to be fair the whooper might have just been relieved it was over). Tennis probably were the standout, playing sub-Pole/Chain Reaction-esque (but much slower) dub soundscapes and really experimenting with echo. But -(and this applies to all the acts) watching 2 ugly blokes staring intently at the screen of a laptop does not an engaging spectacle make. I have dug some Vladislav Delay tracks a lot in the past and I always respect experimentation. But tell me someone, what is the value of random squelches and other inharmonious noises strung together with vocal snippets which sound like
(313) Rolando in London tomorrow
So are any 313'ers planning on heading down to this? I was just wondering if it might be worth trying to organise a pre-Rouge pub meetup...! Brendan
RE: (313) Rolando in London tomorrow
Here we go: http://www.burntblue.com/news/news.asp?News=2900 Rogue Junior @ Rouge: Andrew Borde Street, Charing Cross Road, London 10-5am, £15 / £12 concs | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:17 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: Re: (313) Rolando in London tomorrow | | | can anyone remind me of the details for this one? time, place, price, etc. | Cheers | Neki | -Original Message- | From : Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 313@hyperreal.org | Date : 04 October 2002 11:13:49 | Subject : (313) Rolando in London tomorrow | So are any 313'ers planning on heading down to this? I was just | wondering if | it might be worth trying to organise a pre-Rouge pub meetup...! | | Brendan | | | | | -- | Personalised email by http://another.com
RE: (313) Vladisalv Delay
Placid, Response to (some of) your friend's points - it wd have been nice had they contributed them themselves! We don't bite here! this was a concert/performance, and was billed as such, so why should we expect to be excited by what's on the stage? it's the sound that should be concentrated upon, not the two ugly blokes making it. - In some places (as I noted) it was in fact billed in the club section of publications: I mentioned the London Guide, in the Guardian Newspaper. But nevertheless, a concert is was what I was expecting and a concert I can get with. On the other hand this was an audience watching intense men working on their pcs. Is this a new frontier in concert performance? I doubt it. During the performance, I suggested to my friend that it would have been just as feasible and perhaps more enjoyable to experience the performance at another venue, with the music streamed via ISDN or something. Being at that place during the 'show' seemed pretty pointless to me. The exhortation by the woman who introduced the event, implying that visits to the lavatory would be frowned upon didn't help. However - I was with friends who saw Stockhausen perform with a similar format using not much (I think) not much more than himself and a laptop. In that case, the audience were encouraged to shut eyes or concentrate on a small dot of projected light, whilst the auditorium was darkened - which I think would make sense. So yes, under some circumstances, I'd have to concede that minimal visual performance would be acceptable to me ... leading modern art galleries? a largin' it, hands in the air, laser extravaganza? Clearly that's ridiculous - only a fool wd expect such. I don't think that's what you're implying. i enjoyed listening to all three of the acts, for different reasons. ...parlane's piece emerged from the silence and slowly built, layer upon ...it was intimate and affecting. Entirely subjective. Similarly, it's entirely subjective that I found his performance dull due to it's almost literal monotonousness - a composition of near-autistic flatness. the accusation of 'randomness' is one i've come across before, and which, quite frankly, i find boring and lazy. Sorry if my dislike of VDelay bores you! However, it's again my personal opinion. You saw order or some pattern which pleased you, I didn't see any meaningful pattern, such as there was displeased me. I can't accept the accusation of laziness: I engaged my critical and evalutive faculties for over two hours in order to understand what all the musicians were attempting to do, as I did when I made a very long and I hope at least reasonably thought through post of my own thoughts to this list - as I am doing now! I cannot see why because I don't agree with you that makes me lazy - maybe that's your view because of lazy thinking! it was delay himself who was taking the decisions as to when and how he chose to play and layer the sounds he produced. there must be intention in theses actions, thus rendering the random accusation useless. it may have been difficult to listen to but by no means impossible. First part does not disprove the idea that he was making it up as he goes along - 'random'. Second part, again you enjoyed it, I didn't. Maybe 'random' is good. In that particular instance for me, it didn't work. I hated it. Ken -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: (313) Vladisalv Delay In response to the vladislav delay criticism... A friend wrote... hmm... well. that's an opinion. and s/he's welcome to it. i, on the other hand, had a great time. mainly, i guess, beacause i knew exactly what to expect. and so should anyone who attended, given the blurb on the tate's website, where the words 'contemporary' and 'experimental' feature in the first sentence. i mean, what else were we to expect from one of the world's leading modern art galleries? a largin' it, hands in the air, laser extravaganza? this was a concert/performance, and was billed as such, so why should we expect to be excited by what's on the stage? it's the sound that should be concentrated upon, not the two ugly blokes making it. i enjoyed listening to all three of the acts, for different reasons. parlane's piece emerged from the silence and slowly built, layer upon layer, gradually enveloping the listener as the volume and complexity increased, and then slowly stripping things down again over the period of half an hour or so. it was intimate and affecting. tennis did things differently. the sub-pole/chain reaction ... dub soundscapes description doing them justice i think. again, it was good to listen to. aurally engaging, if you will (if not visually). delay was different again. abstract electronic music - as advertised. he's been moving in this direction for a while, from the early chain reaction stuff to the latest album on mille plateaux (under his own
(313) London - Slices #2
Something a little different for all you London based 313'ers. www.bleep43.com presents SLICES #2 - From Kingston to Berlin Sat 19th October 2002 - Rick Hopkins (Haywire/Outlet) Hazell (Outlet) Lee Berwick (Digidub) Dub-Sounds * *live 8 - 2 am £2 www.publiclife.org 82a Commercial St outside Spitalfields Church London 5 mins walk from Liverpool St *** First of all, many thanks to those who turned up to the 1st Slices party which was headlined by the truly fantastic Rob Euroh, who showed why he is a major talent on the ones and twos. Electro promoters, book this man because he's hot! We are pleased to announce details of the 2nd part of this 4 part series of events, which will concentrate on sounds from the dub spectrum. *** Rick Hopkins/Hazell The Outlet collective have been putting on underground parties in and around the capital for a number of years, and Slices is happy to welcome 2 more of their crew to the decks. Rick Hopkins, who also DJs for Haywire, has been spinning since the mid-nineties where he was a resident at Andy Weatherall's legendary Blood Sugar night. Although he is perhaps more renowned for his driving electro sets, Rick has a consumate repertoire, and alongside the mighty Hazell, whose sets are known for their tangential content, expect to hear some seriously dubby textures and grooves from Pole to the likes of Basic Channel and beyond. --- Lee Berwick An integral part of the LS Diezel soundsystem in the early nineties, Lee's knowledge of dub reggae is second to none. His own Digidub project has mutated from a debut LP in 1993 to being appointed by the Swedish goverment in 1998 to work with avant-garde Butoh dancer Su-En on a project called Scrap Bodies, the end result being a CD recorded entirely in a Swedish scrapyard. More recently Lee worked on an aural project derived from sounds taken directly from the River Thames, which was later shown museums around the capital. He has remixed work for the likes of Funki Porcini and Dreadzone, and has toured/DJ'ed extensively over the whole world. --- Dub-Sounds After Plant43's praised debut performance last month, we are happy to welcome yet another debutant, this time Jamie Croyden's Dub-Sounds project. Jamie's main influences are drawn from the traditional dub masters like Perry, Pablo and Tubby, yet he maintains a healthy respect for the likes of Moritz Ernestus. --- www.digidub.demon.co.uk www.bleep43.com http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2171
(313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
ah just waiting to go home on a friday so surfed the web a bit and found this bootleg... i wanna dance with some numbers.. http://overstated.net/archives/2002_09.asp#000211
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
oh no - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg ah just waiting to go home on a friday so surfed the web a bit and found this bootleg... i wanna dance with some numbers.. http://overstated.net/archives/2002_09.asp#000211
RE: (313) Whitney V Kraftwerk bootleg
oh yes...just a matter of time before Steve 'bootleg' Lamaq picks it up for Radio1 : ) -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:41 PM To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313' Subject: Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg oh no - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg ah just waiting to go home on a friday so surfed the web a bit and found this bootleg... i wanna dance with some numbers.. http://overstated.net/archives/2002_09.asp#000211
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:41 PM To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313' Subject: Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg oh no - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg ah just waiting to go home on a friday so surfed the web a bit and found this bootleg... i wanna dance with some numbers.. http://overstated.net/archives/2002_09.asp#000211
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Ravinder Mann: ah just waiting to go home on a friday so surfed the web a bit and found this bootleg... i wanna dance with some numbers.. http://overstated.net/archives/2002_09.asp#000211 that's the first Girls on Top 7. came out over a year ago i think. the b-side has a rather fetching combination of TLC No Scrubs over the top of Human League Being Boiled. the second Girls on Top 7 features Adina Howard Freak Like Me over Gary Numan Cars (later re-recorded by Richard X aka Girls on Top using teenage pop temptresses Sugababes to do the vocals) and some Missy track on the other side i think. anyways... Detroit... i didn't know Laura at all, aside from her posts to the list, but i still found myself playing KDJ's In Loving Memory last thing before i went to sleep the last 2 nights. strange. anyone got any thoughts on that new Carl Craig remix of Floppy Sounds on Wave? sounds pretty good to me! deep brooding C2 goodness! have a good weekend all rob _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... No doubt. It's what's known as a mashup http://www.merseymashups.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mashups.htm
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
This has been around for well over a year.. Was released on a white vinyl 7... Ravinder Mann: ah just waiting to go home on a friday so surfed the web a bit and found this bootleg... i wanna dance with some numbers.. http://overstated.net/archives/2002_09.asp#000211 that's the first Girls on Top 7. came out over a year ago i think. the b-side has a rather fetching combination of TLC No Scrubs over the top of Human League Being Boiled. the second Girls on Top 7 features Adina Howard Freak Like Me over Gary Numan Cars (later re-recorded by Richard X aka Girls on Top using teenage pop temptresses Sugababes to do the vocals) and some Missy track on the other side i think. anyways... Detroit... i didn't know Laura at all, aside from her posts to the list, but i still found myself playing KDJ's In Loving Memory last thing before i went to sleep the last 2 nights. strange. anyone got any thoughts on that new Carl Craig remix of Floppy Sounds on Wave? sounds pretty good to me! deep brooding C2 goodness! have a good weekend all rob _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
anyone got any thoughts on that new Carl Craig remix of Floppy Sounds on Wave? sounds pretty good to me! deep brooding C2 goodness! Seems like a good opportunity for me to mention that I've reviewed the following... gina x vs metro area - more gdm vol 3 (tigersushi 12) jordan fields - i wanna thank you (mo'wax 12) procreation - rhythmatism (compost 12) no milk - colors (rhapsody 12) shade of soul feat. mani hoffman - nu stance (sunny side 12) floppy sounds - entertainment [carl craig remix] (wave 12) strand - message iii (delsin 12) lover's quarrel w/ szymanski - love hertz (omoa 12) visioneers - 55 dollars (omniverse 7) various - the good good vol 2 (2000 black 2lp/cd) ...here: www.twoplayer.net/reviews/oct_02/ Have a good weekend all... Tom
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
At 15:53 +0100 04-10-2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... Oh come on guys, that record is hilarious! I had a really good laugh when it was released... I saw people waving their lighters on this track when a DJ played it. I think that the record says they are from mexico but i find that hard to believe. The besides has a track that mixes The Human League with TLC, forget which tracks... love it! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Oh come on guys, that record is hilarious! Agreed - lighten up people!
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
I loved the Human League/TLC but thought the Whitney/Kraftwerk splice was a bit lame, but only cos I hate Whitney. Some of these bootlegs are terrible but occasionally the juxtaposition works. Not 313 related but the Christina Aguilera/Strokes bootleg is another one that seems to work and some of those Missy bootlegs are cool too. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:04 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg At 15:53 +0100 04-10-2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... Oh come on guys, that record is hilarious! I had a really good laugh when it was released... I saw people waving their lighters on this track when a DJ played it. I think that the record says they are from mexico but i find that hard to believe. The besides has a track that mixes The Human League with TLC, forget which tracks... love it! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
God, Robert Taylor in posting something about what he actually *likes* to 313 *SHOCKER*!! ;o) k -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:10 PM To: 'Klaas-Jan Jongsma'; Odeluga, Ken; Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg I loved the Human League/TLC but thought the Whitney/Kraftwerk splice was a bit lame, but only cos I hate Whitney. Some of these bootlegs are terrible but occasionally the juxtaposition works. Not 313 related but the Christina Aguilera/Strokes bootleg is another one that seems to work and some of those Missy bootlegs are cool too. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:04 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg At 15:53 +0100 04-10-2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... Oh come on guys, that record is hilarious! I had a really good laugh when it was released... I saw people waving their lighters on this track when a DJ played it. I think that the record says they are from mexico but i find that hard to believe. The besides has a track that mixes The Human League with TLC, forget which tracks... love it! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
girls on top. saw some guy selling it on ebay a while back for $50. scotto lansing, mi. - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:46 AM Subject: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg ah just waiting to go home on a friday so surfed the web a bit and found this bootleg... i wanna dance with some numbers.. http://overstated.net/archives/2002_09.asp#000211
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Oh no! I should have started with something better than that! For the record I absolutely love everything I have ever heard on UR, am a big fan of Axis/Purposemaker and everything Carl Craig has ever touched. Early Plus8/Transmat/KMS - basically all the stuff you guys love. Why the hell do you think I have subscribed to this list? I even like Motown and The White Stripes! You can keep Eminem though. ;-) The only thing I don't like is some people's precious and deferential attitudes toward the music and the players, but I guess some people don't like my attitude either. But, hey, there's room for everyone's opinions here though, I hope! -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:17 PM To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg God, Robert Taylor in posting something about what he actually *likes* to 313 *SHOCKER*!! ;o) k -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:10 PM To: 'Klaas-Jan Jongsma'; Odeluga, Ken; Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg I loved the Human League/TLC but thought the Whitney/Kraftwerk splice was a bit lame, but only cos I hate Whitney. Some of these bootlegs are terrible but occasionally the juxtaposition works. Not 313 related but the Christina Aguilera/Strokes bootleg is another one that seems to work and some of those Missy bootlegs are cool too. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:04 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg At 15:53 +0100 04-10-2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... Oh come on guys, that record is hilarious! I had a really good laugh when it was released... I saw people waving their lighters on this track when a DJ played it. I think that the record says they are from mexico but i find that hard to believe. The besides has a track that mixes The Human League with TLC, forget which tracks... love it! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
...I absolutely love everything I have ever heard on UR Even the new live version of 'Hi-Tech Jazz'? I never thought I'd say this about a UR record but I think it's verging on awful... the original is one of my favourite, life-changing, era-defining records (along with the rest of UR-025) but this new version makes me cringe... Cheers, Tom
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Ken Odeluga wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... Someone told me that it's by '2 Many Djs' aka The F***ing Dewaele Brothers from Belgium? Dunno if it's true, but it's just the sort of thing they'd do. Saw them at Lowlands this year, mixing Pink - 'Get this party started' with ELO - 'Don't bring me down' like they were made for eachother. They must have their records sorted by key or something Otto
(313) ann arbor: this afternoon
3-7pm Dykehouse vs. Theakston Fistfight/DJ set/Karaoke No Gloves Pabst Blue Ribbon Induced All Ages Bivouac Camping Supplies State Street : Ann Arbor
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Their cd rocks - it's got stuff like Vitalic on it but also The Stooges over Salt N Pepa's Push It. It's so well put together that you don't even wince when Dolly Parton's 9 to 5 comes on! -Original Message- From: Otto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg Ken Odeluga wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... Someone told me that it's by '2 Many Djs' aka The F***ing Dewaele Brothers from Belgium? Dunno if it's true, but it's just the sort of thing they'd do. Saw them at Lowlands this year, mixing Pink - 'Get this party started' with ELO - 'Don't bring me down' like they were made for eachother. They must have their records sorted by key or something Otto Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) I even like Motown
Which reminds me - I saw a trailer for a new documentary movie about the backing band for most of the Motown records. Standing in the Shadows of Motown is the title and here is a little article http://www.detnews.com/2002/entertainment/0204/04/c01-456353.htm looks fantastic can't wait. btw - what ever happened to the Long Road Home (is that the title?). The film about the DEMF 2000? MEK
Re: (313) Whitney V Kraftwerk bootleg
rob webb wrote: that's the first Girls on Top 7. came out over a year ago i think. the b-side has a rather fetching combination of TLC No Scrubs over the top of Human League Being Boiled. the second Girls on Top 7 features Adina Howard Freak Like Me over Gary Numan Cars (later re-recorded by Richard X aka Girls on Top using teenage pop temptresses Sugababes to do the vocals) and some Missy track on the other side i think. I'm pretty sure there's an Andrew Weatherall video mix on some site (Groovetech maybe?) where he played several old Severed Heads tracks and this Freak Like Me/Cars mix. I liked it! Props. - Greg
(313) Laura Gavoor
I never met Laura Gavoor. I wish I had. I always enjoyed her posts, and remember thinking clearly while reading one of them Wow, this girl kicks ass. (This is high praise coming from me (-: ) It says she was 44 years old. I turn 44 in 17 days. So this hits pretty close to home. It's ironic that this happened just after I returned from a week in Paris. I feel most alive when I'm away on travel. One thing you find in your 40's (heck, probably 30's for some folks) is that life can become incredibly rote - you suddenly discover yourself plowing the same furrough, going through the same motions, finding things monotonous. Travelling - be it TechnoTourist travel or otherwise - breaks me out of that, and makes me come alive again. To be alive and to be able to experience things like the overwhelming immensity of The Louvre or the opulence of Versailles is something I am very, very grateful to be able to experience. I don't have much else to say, and I hope to God this doesn't come out all Father Knows Best-y: Coming alive while on travel, combined with what just happened to Laura and James Stinson, reminds me - as it should remind all of us - how precious our brief little time on this orb is, and how we should live every day as if it's our last. Because it just might well be. And dance like no one's watching. Rest in peace, Laura. - Greg
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
The only thing I don't like is some people's precious and deferential attitudes toward the music and the players Player-haters in tha house point-em-out point-em-out ! -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Excuse my English ignorance, but what do you mean by that statement? -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:47 PM To: 'Robert Taylor'; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg The only thing I don't like is some people's precious and deferential attitudes toward the music and the players Player-haters in tha house point-em-out point-em-out ! -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Laura Gavoor
On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:56:52 -0700 Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing you find in your 40's (heck, probably 30's for some folks) is that life can become incredibly rote - you suddenly discover yourself plowing the same furrough, going through the same motions, finding things monotonous. wow..i find it to be the opposite..i'm in my 30's though..i feel like i've finally calmed down enough to enjoy little things more..puttering in the garden, having a random interaction with a stranger, going for a walk etc...i feel like i appreciate every day moments more.. Coming alive while on travel, combined with what just happened to Laura and James Stinson, reminds me - as it should remind all of us - how precious our brief little time on this orb is, and how we should live every day as if it's our last. Because it just might well be. no..i've been thinking these same sort of thoughts..but mine is more of the make time to love sort of thing..i dont' know many on the list personally here but the people i _do_ know at least something of have a tendency to WORK TOO DAMN HARD! (including me)..once in a while we need a reminder to make it more of a priority to hang out with that one person, go and see that other person, take an hour long bath..etc. etc..basically to love ourselves and take time to express our love for other people..instead of oh i just have to get this one thing done or i don't have time to hang out this weekend because i have _x_ project i need to work on..bell hooks wrote a great book on love called _all about love_ i highly rec. it anyway i'm on your team.. -k
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Ken Odeluga wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... Someone told me that it's by '2 Many Djs' aka The F***ing Dewaele Brothers from Belgium? Dunno if it's true, but it's just the sort of thing they'd do. Saw them at Lowlands this year, mixing Pink - 'Get this party started' with ELO - 'Don't bring me down' like they were made for eachother. They must have their records sorted by key or something Otto I also heard a different boot mix with the pink song in it. it was get the party started w/ the futurerama theme it was pretty funny. I always woundered who made it? anyone know. think I d/l it from some website? scotto lansing, mi.
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Girls on Top it is. It has been out for quite some time. Very nice, actually sounds made for each other, great vision. he otherside is TLC Scrubs and and somethig else but cannot remember. I hardly play that one due to the Whitneywerk one being so good. By the way, did I miss the Kraftwerk write-ups from Paris. Bound to be good, I still have chills reminiscing the Tribal Gathering show they did in UK many years back. Scott - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg ah just waiting to go home on a friday so surfed the web a bit and found this bootleg... i wanna dance with some numbers.. http://overstated.net/archives/2002_09.asp#000211
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Now I have had it explained to me by a fellow 313er what a player-hater is, but I still don't know whether that's meant to be a good thing or or a bad thing. Players ie P Diddy-types are definitely to be looked down upon 'cos they're talentless chancers who have too much money but there isn't anyone on the techno scene like that ( Mad Mike certainly isn't a player). So why am I a player-hater? -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:47 PM To: 'Robert Taylor'; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg The only thing I don't like is some people's precious and deferential attitudes toward the music and the players Player-haters in tha house point-em-out point-em-out ! -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Pitman stuff is good too. He is from Sheffield, (UK), and in his northern accent he delivers quite funny alternative versions of tracks by the likes of Roots Manuva (Witness - 1 hope) and Pharoah Monche (Simon Says). Tongue in cheek, and we need that at times. smc - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Klaas-Jan Jongsma' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg I loved the Human League/TLC but thought the Whitney/Kraftwerk splice was a bit lame, but only cos I hate Whitney. Some of these bootlegs are terrible but occasionally the juxtaposition works. Not 313 related but the Christina Aguilera/Strokes bootleg is another one that seems to work and some of those Missy bootlegs are cool too. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:04 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg At 15:53 +0100 04-10-2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That is beyond terrible. I feel like posting it to Kling Klang myself in the hope that they'll sue ... but who *did* is the question? It sounds that naff, anyone could have done it in half-an-hour on their pc ... Oh come on guys, that record is hilarious! I had a really good laugh when it was released... I saw people waving their lighters on this track when a DJ played it. I think that the record says they are from mexico but i find that hard to believe. The besides has a track that mixes The Human League with TLC, forget which tracks... love it! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
Now I have had it explained to me by a fellow 313er what a player-hater is, but I still don't know whether that's meant to be a good thing or or a bad thing. Players ie P Diddy-types are definitely to be looked down upon 'cos they're talentless chancers who have too much money but there isn't anyone on the techno scene like that ( Mad Mike certainly isn't a player). So why am I a player-hater? Isn´t Richie Hawtin a player hater (at times)? He used to diss Dave Clarke for playing zombie nation - kernkraft 400... Chers, Maarten
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
I think it's just because you said you disliked some people's... deferential attitudes toward... the players, which might translate, in a jokey way, as you saying that you dislike player-haters. That probably made the lyrics to that song come into Marc's head. I doubt it's serious! :) Brendan | -Original Message- | From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:08 PM | To: 'Langsman, Marc'; Robert Taylor; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org | Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg | | | Now I have had it explained to me by a fellow 313er what a player-hater | is, but I still don't know whether that's meant to be a good thing or or a | bad thing. Players ie P Diddy-types are definitely to be looked | down upon | 'cos they're talentless chancers who have too much money but there isn't | anyone on the techno scene like that ( Mad Mike certainly isn't a player). | So why am I a player-hater? | | -Original Message- | From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:47 PM | To: 'Robert Taylor'; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org | Subject: RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg | | | The only thing I don't like is some people's precious and deferential | attitudes toward the music and the players | | Player-haters in tha house point-em-out point-em-out ! | | -- | -- | -- | This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the | designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended | recipient | of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, | distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This | communication is for information purposes only and should not be | regarded as | an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial | product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official | statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be | guaranteed to be | secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this | information | is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All | information is subject to change without notice. | | | | Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not | necessarily | represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically | stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential | and intended | solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are | addressed. | If you have received this email in error, please notify | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
At 8:13 PM +0200 10/4/02, Maarten Baute wrote: Isn´t Richie Hawtin a player hater (at times)? He used to diss Dave Clarke for playing zombie nation - kernkraft 400... Richie would be a funny Janus-faced playa-hata' at that, since he's probably the most simultaneously adored dissed techno DJ/producer since Jeff Mills (who is, i think, still the most polarizing force in 313-discussions -- either you worship his stuff or you think he's terribly overrated). But y'know, at least Jeff Mills never (to my knowledge) openly dissed anybody for what they chose to put in their sets. And as popular (and wealthy) as Hawtin is, you'd think he could afford to buy himself some magnanimity. (*IF* he actually dissed Dave Clarke, which I never read before or heard him say.) -marc
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
I think it was the fact that he allegedly threw the named record off when he came on after Clarke at Creamfields, Liverpool 2001. Is that an awful thing to do to an awful tune? scott - Original Message - From: marc christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:27 PM Subject: Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg At 8:13 PM +0200 10/4/02, Maarten Baute wrote: Isn´t Richie Hawtin a player hater (at times)? He used to diss Dave Clarke for playing zombie nation - kernkraft 400... Richie would be a funny Janus-faced playa-hata' at that, since he's probably the most simultaneously adored dissed techno DJ/producer since Jeff Mills (who is, i think, still the most polarizing force in 313-discussions -- either you worship his stuff or you think he's terribly overrated). But y'know, at least Jeff Mills never (to my knowledge) openly dissed anybody for what they chose to put in their sets. And as popular (and wealthy) as Hawtin is, you'd think he could afford to buy himself some magnanimity. (*IF* he actually dissed Dave Clarke, which I never read before or heard him say.) -marc
(313) idm retrospect
With the addition of the laptop in a live performance gig, it is very easy for a musician to really just stick with that. Software such as MAX/MSP, Ableton Live, Reaktor, Pro-Tools...there's enough to occupy one's time and energy strictly from the keyboard. My problem is when a musician hits Play on his pro-tools sequence and does some postmodern italo-disco dance for pretty much him/her self with absolutely no consideration for the audience. What's the point of performing live if you're not going to work it a little? And don't get me wrong, laptoppers work it hardcore. take, kid606, BMG, Bill Van Loo. These guys beat out some phat beats and crazy soundscapes right behind their laptops. The key here is live music, folks, and when a musician is smiling and getting into it and obviously tweaking enough virtual knobs to get a crowd moving-either physically or mentally-they are doing a fine job. The last few shows at the Detroit Art Space have both impressed and disappointed me in this sense. I'm not going to mention Telefon Tel Aviv because they use guitars and their live presence is already memorable without ever hearing a sound. I'm focusing more on Perspects, LegoWeldt (not sure if spelling is correct) and Pole. Perspects: resorted to snooty dancing and hitting play on his machine. he used a controller but that was only slightly cool. There was no improvisation. every track was already queued up perfectly, no mixing between tracks, no eq-ing...i was basically listening to him play cd's. LegoWeldt: Awesome show. Played familiar electro tracks like you've never heard before. The music was so good i didn't even notice if he was using a laptop or tables. What I mean by this is that complex mixing was apparent and the crowd was really into it. It's so easy to fall into that routine of repetitive analog synth patches and traditional 808 drum loops. i was glad i could hear something new. Pole: I felt like I was waiting in line for something to happen. i had to chain smoke to keep things interesting. slow and dubby tracks with no feeling. Pole even shook his head at given intervals. I didn't see that Vladislav Delay show that people have been talking about but I imagine I felt very similar to the fellow who made that first critical post. IDM both intrigues and repulses me almost simultaneously. I really think that innovative mixing is the key to any good electronic music piece-even the experimental type. ::carlos
(313) etc 2002.10.05
To: Subject: etc 2002.10.05 Cc: [update] etc this Friday night 2002.10.05 00:30 CDT 270minutes hosted by m50 featuring Promiscuity part 3 tune in to 89.3 fm or http://www.wnur.org/live.ram 773 this Saturday night 2002.09.28 22:00 CDT 5hours hosted by Gabriel Palomo, Tim Xavier Matt Nee featuring WNUR Showcase! guest DJs David Siska, Zachary Lubin and m50 @ Seanchai 2345 W Belmont 21+ 0$ [site] http://m50.cjb.net/ is back up new streams posted again also, bob goes to france... [detail] big week for etc... this Friday night: etc presents: part three of the Promiscuity event series the pitch: The idea of this show is to intermingle musical ideas. The form will be similar to that of a game of telephone, where one party creates a seed (musical) message and each subsequent recipient of the message attempts to recreate that message for the next, thereby either consciously or otherwise imparting their own interpretation on the communication. Through repeated iterations of this cycle, the message increasingly takes on the character of the communicators and loses the qualities of the original transmission. confirmed contributors: Mike DJ Skinny Levitt (djskinny.com, streatbeat dance / electronic producer, WNUR) past etc guest and promiscuity contributor attendee of both previous installments, once again DJ Skinny will offer a diverse set somewhere between tribal tech and chill downtempo Marko Katic (antenna intl, gramaphone records) past guest of etc and of promiscuity supporting tracks on upcoming antenna release and a live set recorded on WNUR, he will certainly bring substance and talent to the table, as always Mani The Urban Turban Miglani (obs productions, djmani.com, gramaphone records, ear promotions) past etc guest and promiscuity contributor having attended both of the previous installments, he is again a more than welcome addition who promises to up the octane several notches with stainless steel techno and unreleased gems Brian Hammersley (methylermine.com, obs productions) past etc guest and promiscuity contributor after throwing down a standout set at last the promiscuity event, he is a welcome returning DJ who has established himself as a most flexible contributor ***just informed me that he will sadly not be able to attend Steve Sinjin Shay (illmeasures) first time on etc and promiscuity resident of bigwig's outlet event, he describes himself as playing dubby tech house and filtered disco Steve Tang (emphasis recordings, red ember recordings) past etc guest and promiscuity contributor an accomplished producer and respected international DJ, he provides soulful techno Joshua Werner (antenna intl, gramaphone records, material, obs productions) past etc guest and promiscuity contributor returning from absence since the first promiscuity event, Josh will educate the audience's mind and feet with eclecticism like no other Audiophile past etc guest and promiscuity contributor having made his WNUR debut on the first promiscuity and been a consistent contributor both to etc and the subsequent promiscuity, he is the returning dj with most hours logged at this event Andrew Suprenant (streetbeat, WNUR) first time at etc and promiscuity a house and downtempo dj coming into his own, he does a weekly show Wednesday evenings that often explores the new and unfamiliar David Kullgren (streetbeat's Education By Numbers, WNUR) past etc guest and promiscuity contributor avid fan of Sasha who's known to drop a Felix da Housecat track now and then, formerly Dave The Slave soon to be Evil Dave does his part to bring happy hardcore to the masses Mercedez Ben (obs productions) past etc guest and promiscuity contributor dark dark minimal techno aficionado, this fellow has thankfully signed on for his second entry into this event Gabriel Palomo (zuvuya recordings , fresca recordings, 773, conjugate project) past etc guest, first time on promiscuity 773 event founder and resident, past host of the Conjugate project, this experienced performer lends his musical depth to the cast David Siska (streetbeat's Clinically Inclined, WNUR, covalent productions) first time on etc and promiscuity if it happens, this will be a truly notable performance as he has acted as a huge influence on and mentor for etc, a Chicago legend in his own right and huge contributor to WNUR, expect an always unprecedented trip into the premiere electro, techno, and IDM releases available, not to mention the fact that he runs the Chicago techno events list and has sponsored and performed alongside such high-profile artists as Technasia, Theorem, and CiM Charles Adler (subsystence.net,streetbeat's Subsystence, WNUR) past etc guest and promiscuity contributor star host of Subsystence radio on WNUR and recent guest at Illmeasures' Outlet event, this returning guest adds soulful techno grooves to the mixture every time he touches the decks Tim Xavier (blueline music, teknotik records, sql
Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
either you worship his stuff or you think he's terribly overrated. Or you take a completely neutral approach and not really worship - or think he's not all that - I can take or leave just about anyone's music/DJing abilities depending on what it sounds like and what I'm interested in hearing at the time. MEK marc christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg 10/04/02 01:27 PM At 8:13 PM +0200 10/4/02, Maarten Baute wrote: Isn´t Richie Hawtin a player hater (at times)? He used to diss Dave Clarke for playing zombie nation - kernkraft 400... Richie would be a funny Janus-faced playa-hata' at that, since he's probably the most simultaneously adored dissed techno DJ/producer since Jeff Mills (who is, i think, still the most polarizing force in 313-discussions -- either you worship his stuff or you think he's terribly overrated). But y'know, at least Jeff Mills never (to my knowledge) openly dissed anybody for what they chose to put in their sets. And as popular (and wealthy) as Hawtin is, you'd think he could afford to buy himself some magnanimity. (*IF* he actually dissed Dave Clarke, which I never read before or heard him say.) -marc
(313) Mayday Mix
I just purchased the Derrick May Mayday Mix - I've heard good things about it. It will take a while to get to me (coming from Brazil to Minnesota) and I was wondering, from those of you who own this, what can I expect to hear? MEK
Re: (313) Mayday Mix
One of the best intro's I've ever heard on a mix CD. I love it. Sets the mood for the rest of the cd :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: (313) Mayday Mix I just purchased the Derrick May Mayday Mix - I've heard good things about it. It will take a while to get to me (coming from Brazil to Minnesota) and I was wondering, from those of you who own this, what can I expect to hear? MEK
Re: (313) Mayday Mix
haha... this cd is what got me from the looptechno to the more soulful side... this is the reason why I now sell more than 250 techno records (harder edge) on my website ;) but it was worth it... I always play it in my walk-man when I walk thru the city in the summer... so you might guess what to expect... also in the mix, the underrated convextion release on matrix.. truly brilliant.. the mix is pro-tooled though.. the mix sounds amazing.. but a lot of stuff is done with computer.. wich is not a problem for me.. Have fun! Maarten I just purchased the Derrick May Mayday Mix - I've heard good things about it. It will take a while to get to me (coming from Brazil to Minnesota) and I was wondering, from those of you who own this, what can I expect to hear?
(313) Laura Gavoor
The last couple of days have been filled with a weird numbness. Last night I was mixing records in my living room and couldn't stop playing Model 500's I Wanna Be There - it pretty much sums up how I've been feeling. I never met Laura in person but was a part of several discussions with her on and off this list. it was always exciting to see her name pop up in my mailbox because I knew something interesting and often quite intense was going on. It's a good thing this list has an archive because I'd hate to lose my only connection to her. I love that quote I think we simply need a VERY good party so's we can ALL shut up and dance! So when is this party going to happen because I really need it (still might not be able to be there...) MEK
Re: (313) Mayday Mix
One of the best intro's I've ever heard on a mix CD. I love it. Sets the mood for the rest of the cd :) the intro is the end of the B-side from frankie goes to hollywood two tribes (annihilation) mixed with a tyree cooper track and a nick holder disco cut up.. all sounding amazing.
Re: (313) Mayday Mix
On Friday, October 4, 2002, at 12:44 PM, Maarten Baute wrote: also in the mix, the underrated convextion release on matrix.. truly brilliant.. yes! such a great track although i've never come close to making it sound as good as it does in this mix. the mix is pro-tooled though.. the mix sounds amazing.. but a lot of stuff is done with computer.. wich is not a problem for me.. especially considering what was done with it. that middle section from Preacher Man to the backward bit with Alarms is just freakin' amazing. this is one of my favorite mix cds, without question. probably the favorite. speaking of, i have the original japanese release... it came with a little 2.5x3.5 18 page photo booklet. does the cd still come with this these days?
Re: (313) Mayday Mix
Of course, convextion is also in the Juan Atkins Mastermix, which is not the cleanest mix perhaps, but the energy comes through and Track selection is stellar if you ask me. BTW, where can I get the MayDay mix? J. On Friday, October 4, 2002, at 12:44 PM, Maarten Baute wrote: also in the mix, the underrated convextion release on matrix.. truly brilliant.. yes! such a great track although i've never come close to making it sound as good as it does in this mix. the mix is pro-tooled though.. the mix sounds amazing.. but a lot of stuff is done with computer.. wich is not a problem for me.. especially considering what was done with it. that middle section from Preacher Man to the backward bit with Alarms is just freakin' amazing. this is one of my favorite mix cds, without question. probably the favorite. speaking of, i have the original japanese release... it came with a little 2.5x3.5 18 page photo booklet. does the cd still come with this these days? -- Knecht
(313) OLD KDJ WAX?
Realized last night that a prized KDJ 12 is missing. Can't remeber the title. Titles imply winter. january something. Can't even remeber the label. it might have been self released, a plainish red center sticker. Any help? I'd like to find it again. J. -- Knecht
Re: (313) OLD KDJ WAX?
- Original Message - From: Joseph Ross Lynn IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: (313) OLD KDJ WAX? Realized last night that a prized KDJ 12 is missing. Can't remeber the title. Titles imply winter. january something. Can't even remeber the label. it might have been self released, a plainish red center sticker. Any help? I'd like to find it again. It's on Soul City. Unfortunately, I only have 60 of my records here right now, and this is not one of them. There's a track on it called January. I think the other you're thinking of is Winter's Breeze. It's by KDJ. My first record by KDJ/Moodymann, probably my favorite, and definitely my most-played. As essential as they come. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
