Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
I think there's a perception that Big Boi is the regular homeboy and Andre the flamboyant eccentric, but Big Boi is still pretty out there. They're both individuals. I love the Andre CD too. I don't think it's try-hard at all, very spontaneous in fact. The songs are great. That's my view. I guess the Common album got the same reaction, but I loved that too. -- From: FC2 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 7:22 PM YOU ARE CRAZY IF YOU DON'T LIKE ANDRE'S DISC... Big Boi will always be the more mainstreal rapper, and Andre will always be more experimental. I love the Andre 3000 CD...if I had to choose between the two disc's I would choose Andre. Jeff p.s. I had no idea that Kurt Cobain was ever cool...they weren't even a good punk band... -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:53 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below -- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] How good is this album? I read that Andre 3000 considers music in Europe to be more cutting-edge than the US, and is into Aphex Twin and so on. They sooo need to play Movement. im a long time outkast fan, ive liked every album progressively less since ATLiens. i think andre 3000's record is atrocious. he tries way too hard and he cant sing, but not in that kinda cool pharrel/bob dylan/kurt cobain way, more like it just hurts my head. the tunes ive heard from big boi's side are really nice though. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
Well you'd hope it would be easier next year... Sometimes it can depend on hook-ups, if you're connected with that scene. Hip-hop is like that sometimes. That's the way it goes. Awesome album, but forget about movement unless they donate their performance and/or movement comes up with a bigger budget this year. She lives in my Lap is my favorite track off of it right now. Not necessarily my favorite completely but for right now. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:55 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below I see the label bio uses the word 'techno' appropriately too. It's good to know that urban acts like The Roots - esp ?uestlove - are giving recognition to US electronic musicians too. I think Roots (Phrenology), Common, NERD and OutKast are exploding the category of urban. It's so exciting. I can't believe Andre 3000 played so much of the instrumentation on The Love Below either. I think this is my album of the year. -- From: Data General [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 3:04 PM There is no way that this album won't impact the more dance-dedicated strain of electronic music, and intensely if justice there be. But I think it's important to find out: does Shake like it? B On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Cyclone Wehner wrote: How good is this album? I read that Andre 3000 considers music in Europe to be more cutting-edge than the US, and is into Aphex Twin and so on. They sooo need to play Movement.
Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
That's funny, I actually thought there was a real parallel between the OutKast and Erykah album! That and the Common record, and The Roots album Phrenology too. Both the Badu album and the OutKast are departing from what is expected of urban music. It's the antithesis of Chingy, et al, who I feel are making very conformist records. They're testing their (US) urban audience, Black and white. Does anyone really believe they're making albums to please the white media? I'd give 'em way more cred than that. Regardless if OutKast annoy The Source, good. It's hit an all-time low with Benzino's ridiculous self-promotional schemes, anyway. Anyway, everyone maintains it was Erykah who got Andre wearing those clothes. ;) thats funny, i dont see anything experimental about andre's disc. i just see weakness fronting on being fresh but it just sounds boring. i mean really my main complaint with outkast has been their attempts to please mainstream white media by being the weird black rappers. i like that big boi knows his strengths enough to still be different, but not just for difference's sake. there was a really good article in the nytimes http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/05/arts/music/05SANN.html?8hpib comparing the recent output of outkast and erykah badu, and they hit the nail on the head as far as im concerned. erykah's album crushes the outkast joint, its not even close, and its mainly because i feel like she wasnt trying to impress anyone in making it. anyway, outkast were undeniably better when andre wasnt wearing feather boas and acting like a fool. do you even remember the player's ball or elevators? elevators will smash anything theyve done before or since it.. p.s. I had no idea that Kurt Cobain was ever cool...they weren't even a good punk band... thats because they werent really a punk band. this isnt the place to discuss this topic, but if you heard nirvana and thought punk band then you either dont know what punk sounds like, or you didnt actually listen to nirvana. if anything they were like a combination of indie rock's songwriting with punk's attitude and metal's power, hardly a good example of a punk band. tom andythepooh.com
(313) OT record mailers
I know lots of us sell and trade our records and I came across this US company that sells 12/45rpm mailers at a cheaper price than Bags Unlimited. http://www.cameronpackaging.com/ haven't ordered from them yet but should be soon MEK
Re: (313) electric souls/Stewart Walker live
Ah.. although Stewart Walker is playing for us the night before, and right near Frodsham where the Electric Souls party will take place. You could make a weekend of it Tristan. No excuse. :op T-FUNKSHUN FRIDAY 14TH NOV MASQUE THEATRE LIVERPOOL Forget what you think you know All the way from Boston, USA, the visionary that is... STEWART WALKER LIVE (-- TRESOR -- PERSONA -- FORCE INC--) + RESIDENTS AND MORE TBC We are very pleased to announce that US based minimal techno maestro Stewart Walker will be performing live in Liverpool at T-FUNKSHUN on November 14th 2003. This will be Stewart Walker's debut Liverpool performance. Obviously we are very excited to be hosting Stewart for what promises to be a very special event. The artist represents the finest in forward thinking minimalism and is renowned for his cutting edge live performances and his prestigious output on esteemed labels such as Force Inc, Tresor and amongst others his own ground breaking label Persona. The club is intimate and the sound system highly capable of representing Stewart's intricate rhythms and delicate textures. This will be an event to savour. So don't miss out on the chance to catch Stewart Walker's debut London gig and witness the legendary live act that has taken him all over the world to venues such as the Liquid Room (Tokyo) and Tresor (Berlin). He will backed up on the night by our own professors of edutainment - Mark Forshaw, David Lawton and Scott McGill. Tickets are limited and available soon from www.ticketline.co.uk as well as 3beat, Phase, Probe and X-fade records. Don't sleep, get yours soon to avoid disappointment! advance £9, more on door doors 10-3 pre-party in Boodha at the Cali at 8pm www.tfunkshun.com www.masquevenue.co.uk www.personarecords.com - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) electric souls - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) electric souls - Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] electric souls party, 15th Nov. Nr Manchester. Carl Craig cancelled, Theo Parrish filling in instead. Maurice Fulton, Amp Fiddler, Shaun Escoffery, Bugz In The Attic, load of Manchester heads, can't remember who else... should be alright ALRIGHT?!?!?!?!?! man you UK heads are too spoiled : P Ugh. RSL and Only Child with Amp Fiddler are on that bill too. I would love to see RSL! I think I heard something about the Unabombers as well. Same night as Stewart Walker's first appearance in London though... The northern expedition will have to wait for another day. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
both cds are hot. i think it was a good idea for them to do 2 separate cds. double your pleasure. outkast always blows me away with their records. i have never been disappointed by them. even the dungeon family cd was dope. i think speakerboxx the love below are stupendous. i don't see them leaving my cd player anytime soon. standout tracks for me: prototype a life in the day take off your cool roses spread ghettomusick bust tomb of boom reset last call Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there's a perception that Big Boi is the regular homeboy and Andre the flamboyant eccentric, but Big Boi is still pretty out there. They're both individuals. I love the Andre CD too. I don't think it's try-hard at all, very spontaneous in fact. The songs are great. That's my view. I guess the Common album got the same reaction, but I loved that too. -- From: FC2 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 7:22 PM YOU ARE CRAZY IF YOU DON'T LIKE ANDRE'S DISC... Big Boi will always be the more mainstreal rapper, and Andre will always be more experimental. I love the Andre 3000 CD...if I had to choose between the two disc's I would choose Andre. Jeff p.s. I had no idea that Kurt Cobain was ever cool...they weren't even a good punk band... -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:53 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below -- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] How good is this album? I read that Andre 3000 considers music in Europe to be more cutting-edge than the US, and is into Aphex Twin and so on. They sooo need to play Movement. im a long time outkast fan, ive liked every album progressively less since ATLiens. i think andre 3000's record is atrocious. he tries way too hard and he cant sing, but not in that kinda cool pharrel/bob dylan/kurt cobain way, more like it just hurts my head. the tunes ive heard from big boi's side are really nice though. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) New stuff...
iridite 4 is dope innit! very good. as was number 3 too - if you missed that definitely check it! this is a quality uk label... starfighterz - 4 flavors of a 2 sided story pt1 I'm really really digging this record. it's just nice deep techno that sometimes is a little hard to find these days. agree with everything JT said mos - goddess / razor (mos 001) m. I'm a bit of an mos fan. and yeah, if you've not picked one up, do! check the aroy dee on nwaq too, which is very hot as well. I'm also liking those two Eddie Fowlkes things on City Boy - Detroit Beatdown Vols 12. and I'm looking forward to hearing those headspace 12's. That Rei Loco guy seems hot! I just need a shop in Manchester to get 'em in - are they out yet? can't think of anything else I bought lately, but these are some nice picks from recent weeks. anyone else picked up some good stuff? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) New stuff...
I'm looking forward to hearing those headspace 12's. That Rei Loco guy seems hot! I just need a shop in Manchester to get 'em in - are they out yet? They're both shippng tomorrow via Rush Hour, so should be in the shops middle of next week. Not sure how easy they'll be to find in the UK now that Ideal have gone down, but I think they'll be sold via Rubadub's Black Hole distribution company. If in doubt ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whet your appetite at http://emoticon-headspace.net :) Cheers, Tom
(313) outside recs
anyone got a contact address for outside recordings ? thanks in advance www.innercity.co.uk
Re: (313) outside recs
I've got an email addy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Their website seems to be down at the moment though, so I'm not sure if that's still in use. - Original Message - From: innercity To: 313 Detroit Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: (313) outside recs anyone got a contact address for outside recordings ? thanks in advance www.innercity.co.uk
Re: (313) playlist WNUR Chicago - 10 Oct 2003
anyone know if this is the b-side to heavy metal, or is it something new? new world aquarium - a better tomorrow (peacefrog) oh, I hope its new. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) New stuff...
I'm also liking those two Eddie Fowlkes things on City Boy - Detroit Beatdown Vols 12. yeah? i havent heard em yetthere's a lot of records on cityboy i've been really tempted to buy, except that often an otherwise great song will be ruined by an annoying sample...trying to be a party anthem or something but overdoing it...i'm a huge eff fan tho..look forward to checking these.. anyone else picked up some good stuff? listened to a couple more things last night... yotoko - wet ink cd/lp (delsin) -- yeah! maybe i'm not a broken beat fan i'm just a yotoko fan...this is one of the very best albums of the year i think. really nice deep spoken word intro, twisted hiphop beats, theo p style house, straight up classic detroit techno, broken beats, crazy beats, dope parallel universe-album era analogue db...just extremely satisfying and enjoyable all around...the promo blurb says the album is about all the different stuff they like and realizing that different styles relate to each other and interconnect very naturally...and that to them it's all still techno. really nicely said..the cd is 12 tracks, 4 of which (heaven earth, all creation, mad daze, all creation remix) are previously released, altho the version of mad daze on the album is a little different than the one on the all creation remix 12. and i know i've heard karma soup before in a mix.??..anyyways thanks to marsel for the promo cd :) i'm gonna have to get the vinyl version when its out! legowelt - tower of the gypsies (bunker) -- i've been a fan (and friend) of legowelt for ages, but even so i think the records he's done lately (under the legowelt name ;P) have been getting a little samey...the a-side of this record is really one track and 3 beatless interludes..the interludes are short and nice, but the main a-side track i cant even listen to it reminds me so much of previous (better) tracks..:P...the b-side is great tho!..dance of the moonbird is a reay great tense, shivers-down-your spine italo soundtracky thing, followed by the dimension door which is low bpm dark (but fun) disco/italo with a great grinding john carpenter (assault on precinct 13 style) bassline..then a little outro track..nice jt _ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: (313) playlist WNUR Chicago - 10 Oct 2003
anyone know if this is the b-side to heavy metal, or is it something new? fool, is the b2! :) new world aquarium - a better tomorrow (peacefrog) oh, I hope its new. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring _ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
(313) New booty/ghetto-tech mix online
Guy and myself have finally got round to finishing and uploading All Cylinders, a mix we've been trying to perfect for absolutely ages! It's available for download as a 73-minute mp3 file at: http://www.non-stop-djs.com/ With over 100 tracks on there, the mixing is pretty rapid-fire and the combination of Ableton and decks means that there's often quite a lot of stuff happening at the same time. It's not going to be to everyone's tastes, but if you've been looking for mixes of this type it might be up your street! There are a few tracks of ours on there too, which are due for release at some point in the next four months... hope you enjoy it! Brendan
Re: (313) New stuff...
yeah? i havent heard em yetthere's a lot of records on cityboy i've been really tempted to buy, except that often an otherwise great song will be ruined by an annoying sample...trying to be a party anthem or something but overdoing it...i'm a huge eff fan tho..look forward to checking these.. well, I have to say I find eddies tracks a bit hit and miss sometimes. but, I'm kind of liking these. I dunno, don't think they're any different to anything he normally does, maybe I'm just in a kind of Eddie Fowlkes mood? I was into the track he did on the detroit beatdown LP too - anyone else get that..? Vol 2 is the one I've listened to most so far. 3 cuts, one using Martin Circus Disco Circus samples, a cut on the same side thats comes across like 33/3rd queen's Searching (or thats what it most reminds me of). Kind of a ravey sort of bassline, with some vocal sample detroit something or other - just some club gear that I reckon will be one of those things that pricks up your ears on a big system. On the flip, a kind of 'broken' techno cut that I need to listen to more before I shoot my mouth off. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) New stuff...
No no no no no- buy this stuff on sight JT. These are easily his best releases since the Tresor 3MB things he did!!! Jason On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 01:58 PM, J. T. wrote: I'm also liking those two Eddie Fowlkes things on City Boy - Detroit Beatdown Vols 12. yeah? i havent heard em yetthere's a lot of records on cityboy i've been really tempted to buy, except that often an otherwise great song will be ruined by an annoying sample...trying to be a party anthem or something but overdoing it...i'm a huge eff fan tho..look forward to checking these..
(313) Plastikman History
I was just wondering... When was the last time Richie Hawtin played LIVE as Plastikman?
RE: (313) Plastikman History
IMO, although it wasn't outright billed as such, his set at Mutek this year was all out Plastikman. -Original Message- From: tuneintuition [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 9:31 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Plastikman History I was just wondering... When was the last time Richie Hawtin played LIVE as Plastikman?
Re: (313) New stuff...
starfighterz - 4 flavors of a 2 sided story pt1 (delsin) -- oh flavor 1 is pefect deep broken beat techno, sounding remarkably like old dan curtin..really really good!! beautiful sounds and melodies, this really brings back memories...flavor 4 on the b-side is not as creative or personal sounding to my ears, more of a familiar deep techno groove...reminds me a little of dimension 5 stuff...very nice, but hard to match the creativity and sharpness of flavor 1...great record tho! lovely enki bilal label art too ;) yeah the descriptions of this Starfighterz eally interested me on this one and it doesn't disappoint! melodic and detroit, yet also cutting into some new sounds too... everything I like about where the more soulful side of techy-beats. Delsin still bringin' the deep electronix. The Dan Curtin as reference point makes total sense. peace Matt MacQueen
Re: RE: (313) Plastikman History
wasn't it @ motor nye '99/'00 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:31:59 -0400, Erin Berg (WPL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : IMO, although it wasn't outright billed as such, his set at Mutek this year was all out Plastikman. -Original Message- From: tuneintuition [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 9:31 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Plastikman History I was just wondering... When was the last time Richie Hawtin played LIVE as Plastikman?
AW: (313) New booty/ghetto-tech mix online
waaah. wicked, insane, sick, braindead... ghetto 4 life. ronny Guy and myself have finally got round to finishing and uploading All Cylinders, a mix we've been trying to perfect for absolutely ages! It's available for download as a 73-minute mp3 file at: http://www.non-stop-djs.com/ With over 100 tracks on there, the mixing is pretty rapid-fire and the combination of Ableton and decks means that there's often quite a lot of stuff happening at the same time. It's not going to be to everyone's tastes, but if you've been looking for mixes of this type it might be up your street! There are a few tracks of ours on there too, which are due for release at some point in the next four months... hope you enjoy it! Brendan
Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
-- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think there's a perception that Big Boi is the regular homeboy and Andre the flamboyant eccentric, but Big Boi is still pretty out there. They're both individuals. i never really considered big boi to be regular or anything, but his style is certainly more compatible with other hiphop. its like any other genre of music, sometimes if you go too far outside of it, it just sounds bad as opposed to sounding different. I love the Andre CD too. I don't think it's try-hard at all, very spontaneous in fact. The songs are great. That's my view. I guess the Common album got the same reaction, but I loved that too. i really dont know what to say about that common record. common used to be a top emcee, now hes on some joker type business. and you can talk all you want about not trying to appeal to white media, but common now endorses coca-cola. they werent offering that circa i used to love h.e.r.. sad. i found his record to be nearly as unlistenable as andre 3000's. -- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's funny, I actually thought there was a real parallel between the OutKast and Erykah album! That and the Common record, and The Roots album Phrenology too. Both the Badu album and the OutKast are departing from what is expected of urban music. It's the antithesis of Chingy, et al, who I feel are making very conformist records. They're testing their (US) urban audience, Black and white. Does anyone really believe they're making albums to please the white media i definitely do. the return of rock thats been being hyped in the media since the strokes album a couple years ago seems to have penetrated hiphop, and mostly in a bad way. like you look at that cody chestnutt cat. his record was decent, but it was also a little less a result of the hype as it was part of the cause. the roots went on to remake and release that track of his the seed. common now thinks he's jimi hendrix, which i might agree with him on if he showed anything resembling his old mic virtuosity. wearing tiedye shirts doesnt make you hendrix. andre 3000 im not even sure what tip he's on, but its just bad. really i think i was the only person in america who hated that last album before this. as he's become more and more outrageous, the quality of his music has suffered. the erykah album was good because it took the style that shes into and made it atmospheric as opposed to rock sounding. even lenny kravitz's presence doesnt make it any more rock than her other stuff, which was not at all (lenny can do r+b pretty damn well when he wants to). even the remake of the NERD album was garbage IMO. i saw them live recently, and it was mostly underwhelming. spymob is a weak band, and the original electronic studio versions of the tracks of that album sounded much more cutting edge than throwing some distorted guitar licks in does. I'd give 'em way more cred than that. Regardless if OutKast annoy The Source, good. It's hit an all- time low with Benzino's ridiculous self-promotional schemes, anyway. wasnt there 2 covers of the most recent source, one with andre and one with big boi? i didnt read it, but i dont think that the source was against the album by any means. Anyway, everyone maintains it was Erykah who got Andre wearing those clothes. ;) yeah but he missed the plot. erykah looks good in her slightly eccentric outfits, andre looks like a turd. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Three One Three Northern Party
Ok if there was 313 party in the North (Leeds/Sheff/Manc) would you come? And if you can mix would you be up for it - let me know off the list please... -- Martin Dust Parkhead House 26 Carver Street Sheffield S1 4FS f: +44 (0) 114 241 3701 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Club - http://www.dustclub.com Community - http://www.littedetroit.net Label - SOON - NOTE: This E-mail is private and confidential to the named recipients. Any information provided is given in good faith. However, unless specifically stated to the contrary, Dust, accepts no liability for the content of this E-mail, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. The unauthorised copying of any information contained in this E-mail to persons other than the named recipients is strictly forbidden. © 2003 Dust.
FW: RE: (313) Plastikman History
I was at motor for the nye show in '99, but I'm pretty sure that was straight up Richie? Amazing, amazing show too! I spent most of the night sitting in the booths talking to anyone who happened by and then periodically dancing my ass off. One of the best nights of my life... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 11:15 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RE: (313) Plastikman History wasn't it @ motor nye '99/'00 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:31:59 -0400, Erin Berg (WPL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : IMO, although it wasn't outright billed as such, his set at Mutek this year was all out Plastikman. -Original Message- From: tuneintuition [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 9:31 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Plastikman History I was just wondering... When was the last time Richie Hawtin played LIVE as Plastikman?
RE: (313) Three One Three Northern Party
I missed all the 313 mails from early on this week cos my moronic IT Department think 313 is spam, despite my repeated assurances that it is a valuable resource and completely relevant to my work (er), so I am sure I missed all the praise for the London 313 party - it was great meeting some of you guys for the first time and also to be grooving to the more familiar peeps playing 313 classics and more. Good work fellas! -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:43 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) Three One Three Northern Party Ok if there was 313 party in the North (Leeds/Sheff/Manc) would you come? And if you can mix would you be up for it - let me know off the list please... -- Martin Dust Parkhead House 26 Carver Street Sheffield S1 4FS f: +44 (0) 114 241 3701 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Club - http://www.dustclub.com Community - http://www.littedetroit.net Label - SOON - NOTE: This E-mail is private and confidential to the named recipients. Any information provided is given in good faith. However, unless specifically stated to the contrary, Dust, accepts no liability for the content of this E-mail, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. The unauthorised copying of any information contained in this E-mail to persons other than the named recipients is strictly forbidden. © 2003 Dust. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: FW: RE: (313) Plastikman History
Transcendence 95 maybe? (Toronto with eddie richards) On Wednesday, Oct 15, 2003, at 11:58 US/Eastern, Erin Berg (WPL) wrote: I was at motor for the nye show in '99, but I'm pretty sure that was straight up Richie? Amazing, amazing show too! I spent most of the night sitting in the booths talking to anyone who happened by and then periodically dancing my ass off. One of the best nights of my life... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 11:15 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RE: (313) Plastikman History wasn't it @ motor nye '99/'00 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:31:59 -0400, Erin Berg (WPL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : IMO, although it wasn't outright billed as such, his set at Mutek this year was all out Plastikman. -Original Message- From: tuneintuition [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 9:31 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Plastikman History I was just wondering... When was the last time Richie Hawtin played LIVE as Plastikman?
Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
I think there's a perception that Big Boi is the regular homeboy and Andre the flamboyant eccentric, but Big Boi is still pretty out there. They're both individuals. i never really considered big boi to be regular or anything, but his style is certainly more compatible with other hiphop. its like any other genre of music, sometimes if you go too far outside of it, it just sounds bad as opposed to sounding different. I guess it depends on how you define hip-hop. I don't know, I think it's a controversial record which is good in some ways. I love the Andre CD too. I don't think it's try-hard at all, very spontaneous in fact. The songs are great. That's my view. I guess the Common album got the same reaction, but I loved that too. i really dont know what to say about that common record. common used to be a top emcee, now hes on some joker type business. and you can talk all you want about not trying to appeal to white media, but common now endorses coca-cola. they werent offering that circa i used to love h.e.r.. sad. i found his record to be nearly as unlistenable as andre 3000's. I saw Carl Craig charted Common's album his number 1 in a magazine so I reckon I'm onto something. ;) I'm not too fond of Coca ads either, but it's not like he's selling heaps of records, and that album would have been expensive to make. He has a daughter, the money may be for her.
(313) Glasgow this Saturday
Just a heads-up for anyone in the area who doesn't know - Francois K and Stacey Pullen are playing the Arches this Saturday, and Traxxevents will be doing an afterparty at the Unit with Digs Woosh from DiY (4AM til whenever they stop!) Details at http://www.traxxevents.com Sorry for cluttering the inboxes of non-Scotland peeps... Cheers, Tom
Re: FW: RE: (313) Plastikman History
--- Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Transcendence 95 maybe? (Toronto with eddie richards) damn what a show that was but, no: the last plastikman show was later in '95 in japan.
RE: (313) Plastikman History
Ok, I was thinking 95' was the last show... But I guess it was NYE 99' @ Motor... Was it really a live performance? That NYE was all planned out too, then I backed out because I couldn't fork over $100 for the night. Can't wait for Halloween in Windsor! Should be an excellent show - I'm hoping Minus puts their decorating caps on for this one. Thanks for the help, and if anyone knows where I can find Richie's set from NYE 99' do tell. Paxahau archives maybe? Luke DeepIsDeep Original message Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:24:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: RE: (313) Plastikman History To: Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org --- Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Transcendence 95 maybe? (Toronto with eddie richards) damn what a show that was but, no: the last plastikman show was later in '95 in japan.
RE: (313) Plastikman History
--- tuneintuition [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I was thinking 95' was the last show... But I guess it was NYE 99' @ Motor... Was it really a live performance? no. according to mr. hawtin the last plastikman show was japan '95.
FW: (313) Plastikman History
Ya, I thought the NYE '99 was basically a decks efx show because the album was released in November of 1999... -Original Message- From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 3:17 PM To: tuneintuition; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Plastikman History --- tuneintuition [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I was thinking 95' was the last show... But I guess it was NYE 99' @ Motor... Was it really a live performance? no. according to mr. hawtin the last plastikman show was japan '95.
Re: (313) Plastikman History
Except it had an 808, 909, 101, 303, and a washing machine, if I remember correctly. The washing machine bit was on the m-nus calendar, and would change every time you refreshed the page.washing machine, bananna, etc. The last song of the night, the one on the cd3, was live at least. And that 303 was squawking away at a couple of points through the night. What a great time, I just wish Motor would've let everyone stay a little longer :-) Plastikman live? Perhaps not, but still a good night. jim - Original Message - From: Erin Berg (WPL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: FW: (313) Plastikman History Ya, I thought the NYE '99 was basically a decks efx show because the album was released in November of 1999... -Original Message- From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 3:17 PM To: tuneintuition; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Plastikman History --- tuneintuition [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I was thinking 95' was the last show... But I guess it was NYE 99' @ Motor... Was it really a live performance? no. according to mr. hawtin the last plastikman show was japan '95.
Re: (313) Plastikman History
- Original Message - From: Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuneintuition [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: RE: (313) Plastikman History --- tuneintuition [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I was thinking 95' was the last show... But I guess it was NYE 99' @ Motor... Was it really a live performance? no. according to mr. hawtin the last plastikman show was japan '95. what about the consumed tour, wasn't that in 98 -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
Re: (313) New stuff...
- Original Message - From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) New stuff... No no no no no- buy this stuff on sight JT. These are easily his best releases since the Tresor 3MB things he did!!! What about the Back 2 Basics releases? 'The Truth' kills and those Claude Young/Shake remixes on the 2nd 12 were pretty great too. Some gorgeous stuff on the City Boy Player with Niko Marks album to boot. I passed on the new 12's. Couldnt get a good sense of their 'essentialness' from the samples. Sounded nice but I wasn't convinced. Should prolly give them another try. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Plastikman History
A little longer??? Me and the crew left a little after 4am. How much longer was it goin on? -Original Message- From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:34 PM To: Erin Berg (WPL); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman History Except it had an 808, 909, 101, 303, and a washing machine, if I remember correctly. The washing machine bit was on the m-nus calendar, and would change every time you refreshed the page.washing machine, bananna, etc. The last song of the night, the one on the cd3, was live at least. And that 303 was squawking away at a couple of points through the night. What a great time, I just wish Motor would've let everyone stay a little longer :-) Plastikman live? Perhaps not, but still a good night. jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003
RE: (313) Plastikman History
I heard Plasktikman now lives with Elvis off the coast of Puerto Rico. The only thing he spins now is plates on bamboo.now...imagine THAT party! --- logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little longer??? Me and the crew left a little after 4am. How much longer was it goin on? -Original Message- From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:34 PM To: Erin Berg (WPL); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman History Except it had an 808, 909, 101, 303, and a washing machine, if I remember correctly. The washing machine bit was on the m-nus calendar, and would change every time you refreshed the page.washing machine, bananna, etc. The last song of the night, the one on the cd3, was live at least. And that 303 was squawking away at a couple of points through the night. What a great time, I just wish Motor would've let everyone stay a little longer :-) Plastikman live? Perhaps not, but still a good night. jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003 __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
RE: (313) Plastikman History
I think I left around 5:00 (it was still dark out anyway) to catch the bus back to TO, in a car with some crazygood Detroit residents who were blitzed out of their minds - come to think of it at one point we all couldn't remember how to tell left from right - kind of bad when you're trying to find your way somewhere...but, anyways, - I digress...by the time I did leave there was hardly anyone there except for a few spacecadets ;) still sitting on the risers by the light walkway (or whatever that thing was called) and some folks still trying to eat the catering in that little back room... -Original Message- From: logic7 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 15, 2003 5:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Plastikman History A little longer??? Me and the crew left a little after 4am. How much longer was it goin on? -Original Message- From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:34 PM To: Erin Berg (WPL); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman History Except it had an 808, 909, 101, 303, and a washing machine, if I remember correctly. The washing machine bit was on the m-nus calendar, and would change every time you refreshed the page.washing machine, bananna, etc. The last song of the night, the one on the cd3, was live at least. And that 303 was squawking away at a couple of points through the night. What a great time, I just wish Motor would've let everyone stay a little longer :-) Plastikman live? Perhaps not, but still a good night. jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003
(313) London this Friday - was Re: (313) Glasgow this Saturday
- Original Message - From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: (313) Glasgow this Saturday Just a heads-up for anyone in the area who doesn't know - Francois K and Stacey Pullen are playing the Arches this Saturday, and Traxxevents will be doing an afterparty at the Unit with Digs Woosh from DiY (4AM til whenever they stop!) Details at http://www.traxxevents.com Sorry to further the clutter, but if anyone wants to meet up for a few pints before the Silver Sturgeon sets sail on the Thames Friday, hit me back off list and I'll shoot you the details of where a few of us Little Detroit/Overload peepz will be heading before the final boarding call. FK spinning (hopefully Deep Space stylee) for four hours on a boat! Yam Who and other nice locals too. Thomas, you are correct that we are spoiled! :) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) id record scd-013
anyone know who this is? orange label no writing except the run out groove scd-013 music is deeper minimal techno/boardering on micro website, artist, anything. also is there a site you can look up labels by there vin. #? -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
Re: (313) id record scd-013
-- Original Message -- From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] anyone know who this is? orange label no writing except the run out groove scd-013 music is deeper minimal techno/boardering on micro website, artist, anything. also is there a site you can look up labels by there vin. #? this is a detroit list, you should know scd = seventh city detroit. ; ) http://www.discogs.com/release/98 discogs is whats up. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) id record scd-013
7th City uses that format (SCD-xxx) for their catalog number. Maybe it's the John Tejada realease? -Ryan - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: (313) id record scd-013 anyone know who this is? orange label no writing except the run out groove scd-013 music is deeper minimal techno/boardering on micro website, artist, anything. also is there a site you can look up labels by there vin. #? -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 10/1/2003
Re: (313) id record scd-013
dan bell's seventh city john tejada release www.sonicgroove.com on 16/10/03 7:39 AM, scotto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone know who this is? orange label no writing except the run out groove scd-013 music is deeper minimal techno/boardering on micro website, artist, anything. also is there a site you can look up labels by there vin. #? -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
Re: (313) Plastikman History
I seem to remember Motor staff kicking everybody out at 4 a.m. Believe me, I could have gone longer that night! It was the millenium after all :-) jim - Original Message - From: logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: RE: (313) Plastikman History A little longer??? Me and the crew left a little after 4am. How much longer was it goin on? -Original Message- From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:34 PM To: Erin Berg (WPL); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman History Except it had an 808, 909, 101, 303, and a washing machine, if I remember correctly. The washing machine bit was on the m-nus calendar, and would change every time you refreshed the page.washing machine, bananna, etc. The last song of the night, the one on the cd3, was live at least. And that 303 was squawking away at a couple of points through the night. What a great time, I just wish Motor would've let everyone stay a little longer :-) Plastikman live? Perhaps not, but still a good night. jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003
(313) July Samurai FM mix now archived
You may recall a few months ago I posted a mix originally featured on Samurai FM's London Underground show. I finally got around to dumping it back onto my 'pooter for an archive (crazy computer problems at the time), now available for your listening pleasure here: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/Samurai.htm. I know it's hard to remember/schedule time for radio shows, so now y'all can get a chance to hear this if you missed it. Apologies for the spotty mixing and the bass-heavy recording (forgot to turn off the bass boost on my minidisc). Tracklist: Vainquer - Antistatic - Chain Reaction Acid Scout - Holographic E.P. track A2 - Kurbel Monolake - Tangent II - Monolake Sensurreal - Astral Black - BMU Convextion - Ondes - Down Low John Beltran - Decembers Tragedy - Peacefrog Peel Seamus - Artemis (Outbound Mix) - Delsin Quiet Daze - Being Quiet - Transmat Thomas Fehlmann - Superbock - Kompakt Oxtongue - Delight - Kompakt Pop MOS feat. Aroy Dee - Utility #2 - Rush Hour Recordings Too Funk - Storm the Funk (remixed by Mark Broom) - Ferox Tres Demented - Demented (or Just Crazy) - Planet E Morganistic - Leaf - Input Neuron Musique Enjoy! Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) New stuff...
Ahhh, then we must agree to differ! I REALLY didn't like the Cityboy stuff with Niko Marks- thought it lacked any real balls or inventiveness- the current releases are a mix of older material which never got released and some more up to date stuff- the tracks on CB16 in particular stand out as being highly individual pieces with respect! Jason On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 09:45 PM, Phonopsia wrote: - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) New stuff... No no no no no- buy this stuff on sight JT. These are easily his best releases since the Tresor 3MB things he did!!! What about the Back 2 Basics releases? 'The Truth' kills and those Claude Young/Shake remixes on the 2nd 12 were pretty great too. Some gorgeous stuff on the City Boy Player with Niko Marks album to boot. I passed on the new 12's. Couldnt get a good sense of their 'essentialness' from the samples. Sounded nice but I wasn't convinced. Should prolly give them another try. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) New stuff...
I passed on the new 12's. Couldnt get a good sense of their 'essentialness' from the samples. Sounded nice but I wasn't convinced. Should prolly give them another try. Yeah, you should! I think they're great, Eddie's best stuff for years. Best of the bunch for me is 'JC' from Vol 2 (I think) - very cool broken Recloose-esque vibe, loads of effects, great vocal loop - I can imagine it tearing up Co-Op. The other 12 is great too, in a more straight-up house vibe. Quality tunes! Cheers, Tom
(313) New EFF
OK OK I'll give them another listen. ;) This time in person rather than a short sample on a low quality stream. I bet you Scottish boys are right. :) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
