RE: (313) Clone Labelnight Pictures

2003-08-18 Thread Jongsma, K.J.



 Amsterdam isn't the only city in Holland, mate.
 That's why the Clone party was in Rotterdam :-
 
 I'm sure, much as anywhere, but I'm visiting Amsterdam.
 
 OK, I'll rephrase in a politically correct manner...
 
 are there any good parties happening in NL this weekend, within a
 reasonable train journey of Amsterdam

Well there are always some parties going on somewhere but not anything
interesting and 313 related in night train distance from Amsterdam. August
is a bit of an easy month with all the festivals and holidays. 

The clone party was amazing indeed. Detroit In Effect blew me away, don't
miss there livesets! 

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RE: (313) Joris Voorn (was Dutch parties this weekend)

2003-08-18 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 one more thing though,
 
 this man here -  Joris Voorn
 
 I have been hearing a few things about of late. Can anyone tell me his
 other productions (if he has any)?

He has released 2 records on Otto's Keynote/Groundzero records called Muted
tracks vol I en II. He also did something voor another small dutch Label
called Line Records and he has signed voor 2 records on Transmat/Fragile.
There is more stuff from him coming up, he is quit active with releasing
records lately. I have heard that the Transmat/Fragile records are quit
amazing (have not heard them myself).

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RE: (313) Dutch parties this weekend

2003-08-18 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


 Well there is always more than Amsterdam and Rotterdam...
 
 Try one of the oldest possessed building of Holland this 
 friday  saturday,
 celebrating it's 20st anniversary! Located in Alkmaar though strangely
 enough no 072 resident DJ's, like it really used to be back 
 in the days...
 Also Diego at Doornroosje on saturday located in Nijmegen

Just a quick remark about Doornroosje, There are no night trains running to
Nijmegen, so if you go there you are stuck until the next morning. Also this
Diego from Kanzleramt records and not Diego from 4 Hero :(( 

 there is the
 annual Mysterland rave on saturday in Harlem with Alexander 
 Kowalski, Joris
 Voorn , Richie Hawtin, Sven Vath, etc. for a 'different' bite

As already said, Mysteryland is a big *ss rave with 10.000's of people,
dunno if this is the thing you want?

KJ

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RE: (313) herbert

2003-08-07 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 does anyone know the name of the track herbert plays @ 10 
 days off 23min 30
 into the 1st part of the mix? (http://www.houseblogger.com/). 
 Mr oizo comes
 out of it.

I dunno what it is but i want to know what this is to! Shake is been playing
this track a lot, must have it :)


 ive heard shake play it before a couple of times also
 also the track he plays 2:50 into the 2nd part of the mix 
 (Frank sinatra??).

This is Louie Austen's Hoping on Cheap records, i think this is Herberts own
remix

KJ

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RE: (313) Big Chill

2003-08-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 You should have hung around - he played a few obvious things 
 which are still techno as far as I am aware - Strings of Life 
 by Rhythim Is Rhythim, Black Water by Octave One (its still 
 techno even though he played the instrumental), that new Carl 
 Craig and Laurent Garnier one...  Maybe now they are well 
 known they are no longer techno!?! 

!?!? say what!

KJ 

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RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 
  I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample... IMHO
  there is no way.  Have you ever tried to sample stuff and 
 use it in a
  track?  There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a clean enough
  version of that string part of the track to be able to sample it and
  make Jaguar with it.   Still, everyone's ears are 
 subjective and it's
  something neither of us can conclusively prove one way or the other.
  :)
 
 
 Exactly. If someone doesn't want to buy that it can't be a 
 sample based on
 technical or melodic considertions, the argument remains the two ships
 passing in the night that it is. However, there is
 99.9% no way it could have been 
 sampled, either
 because of the derth of other sounds cluttering those strings 
 throughout, or
 because (to my ears), there is not a single point in the 
 original where a
 string plays 1 sustained monotone note, and if you sample the 
 chord, you
 can't reconstruct a 'normal' sounding chord out of where it 
 came from, which
 is precisely how Jaguar is constructed. This is a hard-fast technical
 limitation of sampling in my experience, unless there is 
 something huge I am
 missing. It's chords throughout, except for maybe that little 
 5-note trill
 that everyone's sweating at the beginning of the phrase, 
 which no one is
 disputing sounds nearly identical, but that doesn't mean it's 
 a sample, for
 all the reasons above.

Also the string sound used is probably some standard preset sound, the short
riddle in the start is done by so many people more, it is not something that
is so original it is in thousands of other records, so it uses the same
chords, so what? That is just a basic musical training. The submerge people
are musically enough that they could play this string the way they did.
Assuming that this is ripped (or sampled) is just as bizzare as accusing
Derrick May from ripping some old eighties track just because he used the
lately bass


KJ

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(313) Red Planet Website launched...

2003-08-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
check: http://www.lbh6251876.com

Nice a new 12 is also coming up, no audiofiles yet...


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RE: (313) red planet

2003-08-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Gary Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: maandag 4 augustus 2003 16:55
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: Re: (313) red planet
 
 
 Alex,
 It's a reference to the Battle of Little Big Horn June 25th 1876

Yup, it is a date that refers to a battle where the US Cavalry tried to
slaughter a sh*tload of Sioux and Cheyenne Indians but it turned for all the
good of the Sioux and Cheyenne Indians and the cavalry got defeated by them.
I think that this was one of the big big victories against the US Cavalry

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 Subject: (313) red planet
 
 
  check: http://www.lbh6251876.com
 
  hmm, that website address is a bit obscure. I presume it has other
 meaning.
  anyone know?
 
  also, talking of soundclips, did anyone get that delsin mailout this
  morning that has those clips of a new delsin 12?
  artist 'unknown'. sounds well tasty to me.
  _
 
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RE: (313) Dan Curtin on Downlow - wtf?!

2003-07-28 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I totally agree with this, i know i said this a while ago to but this record
has been on my crapy turntable a lot! Def. one of the best records from Dan
Curtin in a long time!

kj



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 Verzonden: maandag 28 juli 2003 14:11
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) Dan Curtin on Downlow - wtf?!
 
 
 JT  Minto let me slap you on the back for putting this out: 
 this is f***ing
 kicking!
 
 

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RE: (313) dc-16 out now

2003-07-01 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I got a copy on white vinyl, so yes it is on coloured vinyl :)

KJ (who really likes the new IChat AV :))


 is this one on colored vinyl too?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: logic7 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 3:13 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org'
 Subject: RE: (313) dc-16 out now
 
 
 Deep Chord is my absolute favorite label. This (like 
 everything else of
 theirs) will be my blind buy purchace on my next trip to 
 Record Time.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: The REAL Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:49 AM
 To: Michael Lees; Fabrizio Nahum
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) dc-16 out now
 
 
 If you can't find it elsewhere, Record Time should have 
 these. I got mine
 from one of their bins at Movement nearly a month ago.
 
  jeff
 
 
 At 09:18 AM 6/24/2003, Michael Lees wrote:
 Sounds exciting
 
 http://www.deepchord.com/index2.html
 
 
 hiit seems that deepchord 016 is out now
 fab
 
 --
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RE: (313) Detroit Graphics

2003-06-17 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Dunno... he is still alive and still works for submerge, does artwork for
their labels, makes paintings and does the odd show:

http://www.undergroundresistance.com/missions/m_006.html


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 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Dave Parsons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: dinsdag 17 juni 2003 13:24
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) Detroit Graphics
 
 
 Talking about label art, has anybody got any news on Abdul Haqq?  His
 cover work for Buzz Records was outstanding.
 

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RE: (313) Tribal Gathering...

2003-06-02 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 this looks amazing (A Guy Called Gerald acid house set almost 
 swings it
 for me alone) but is run by a guy with a slightly 
 questionable view on how
 the scene should be run club-wise here in manchester (anyone who plays
 for him is contractually obliged to not play anywhere else in the city
 amongst other things).
 
 he's the same guy that had that Cosmic Twins thing advertised (for
 London) that was slightly misleading in that Derrick and FK didn't
 actually do the cosmic twins thingsome of you may remember

Yeah that is what i was about to say to. Isnt this TG 'not some smart guy
who bought the name TG and has nothing to do with the original parties but
just uses this name to get a quick crowd?

KJ




  Random heads up for UK peeps ... Tribal Gathering are 
 running some kind of
  'warehouse party' towards the end of august ..
  http://tribalgathering.co.uk/warehouse/
 
  Basically the lineup includes Jeff Mills, Laurent Garnier, 
 Derrick Carter,
  Guy Called Gerald, DJ Sneak [w00t!] amongst others :)
 
  If aynones up for a 313 meet let me know !
 
  Peace,
  Marc
 

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RE: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres?

2003-06-02 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


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 Van: Ramon Crespo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: maandag 2 juni 2003 13:25
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres?
 
 
 Anyone know when this is out?

Now :))


 The site says coming soon and offers a link to side b1 of the vinyl. 
 Which sounds great but I want this on vinyl.

Well they were selling them at SID last week

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RE: (313) Museum of techno

2003-05-16 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Guys - the site is a joke - it's not a real museum!

Well i thought that was quit obvious... a steam powered drum machine???

http://www.museumoftechno.org/correspondence/steam_drum.html

and this announcement:

The decision by the management team to limit f*cking within the Museum's
galleries has generated a degree of controversy.

http://www.museumoftechno.org/correspondence/f*cking.html

Oh replace the * with an u the URL otherwise this mail is not getting
through hyperreal :)


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  maybe they are talking about the actual building...
  
  ab
  
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  From: Darren Longton (Marketing) 
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  Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 3:01 AM
  To: 313 Hyperreal. Org
  Subject: RE: (313) Museum of techno
  
  
  Yeah, come on...old skool isn't THAT old!
  
  
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  Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 12:47 PM
  To: 313 Hyperreal. Org
  Subject: RE: (313) Museum of techno
  
  
  Martin said
  
  http://www.museumoftechno.org/
  
  F*cking is discouraged apparently
  
  
  That's hilarious.  Did anyone else catch on the first page:
  
  he museum of techno exists to preserve, research and 
 celebrate our shared
  techno heritage. The museum was founded in 1837, around 
 founder Sir James
  Soame's unique collection of badboy kickdrums. It moved 
 from its original
  location in Manchester to premises in London in 1863, 
 opening its doors to
  the general public for the first time.
  
  
  1837 ??
  
  Dennis.
 

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RE: (313) new stuff

2003-05-16 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Hey, Robin and Alex, any of you guys heard the new 
 Renaissance stuff too?
 Know when it/they're due out? Also, is Renaissance records solely
 distributed by Submerge?

I think so... it is produced by Mr. 'De from Electrofunk. I really love
those Renaissance tracks! Can't wait to get my hands on it. That new
Suburban Knight Mix CD looks interesting as well!!!

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 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 2:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) new stuff
 
 
  Good week for Detroit House Music;
 
  picked up.
 
  Amp Fiddler - Love and War (out monday)
  3 Chairs EP - says on the label 'from the forthcoming LP', 
 so something
  there to look forward to.
  2 Moodymann releases on Peacefrog
 
 yeah tempted by the 3 tracker tho i might wait for the lp to 
 land (does
 anyone know a date for the lp?)
 
 the version of emotional content on the 12 seems different 
 from the one i
 know, is it?
 
  Rick Wade on Music Is
 
 ooh didn't know about that...rick's one of my fave house producers
 
 what's this like then?
 
 other 313 stuff i noticed around:
 
 dj3000 on motech (sounding good from the clips)
 ef2010 (house on electrofunk...from the bits i heard it's nice)
 two releases on wallshaker by aaron carl
 
 
 robin...
 
 

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RE: (313) Another surprising Movement addition

2003-05-13 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Less of a surprise and new to the line-up is Recloose btw.

KJ


 An act called Princess Dragonmom has been added to the Movement 2003
 line-up. Never heard of them, but this is what i found about 
 one of their
 releases:
 
 Tracks by PRINCESS DRAGONMOM are very harsh and aggressive. 
 Many people
 have an interest to just performance (it's like RIOT by them and
 audience!!!) but sounds in this CD are really strong and 
 great. imagine
 HARDROCK spirit in Detroit, for example MC5!!!
 
 Hans
 
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(313) FW: A number of names interview @ technotourist.org

2003-05-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Since John Osselaer e-mail is not reaching this list for some weird reason
iam posting this for him:

KJ

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Hi folks,

We now have an interview with Paul Lesley of A Number Of Names up on the
Technotourist site: http://www.technotourist.org


This interview was done a couple of days before the DEMF 2001. It has
remained in the secret Technotourist vault until now. Although it dates
back about two years it hasn't lost much of its significance since most
questions were not really time-bound.

Here's a direct link for those pressed for time:

http://www.technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=index
req=viewarticleartid=27

Enjoy!



And errmm, oh yeah, it's great to be back on the list! I'll see some of
you in about two weeks...

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RE: (313) Retrovert details - Blake Baxter

2003-05-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I've heard him play a DJ set several times, when he plays house he is
f**king amazing. Last years set at the DEMF was realy smooth. Loved it a
lot, sunny weather  sexy house music.. yummie! I am not the biggest fun of
the techno sets i heard himplay, i bit boring IMHO. I love his old techno
tracks on that dream sequence album though

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 How is Blake Baxter as a DJ?  I've only heard one vinyl of 
 his, which was
 brilliant, it was a double set with a guy with a gun on the 
 cover I think,
 the tunes reminded me of DJ Rush, but less harsh, and some interesting
 motown sounding samples.  Oh and the track he did with Trevor 
 Rockliffe I
 really like too.  Anyone got any other recommendations / 
 experiences re:
 Blake Baxter?

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RE: (313) Retrovert details - Blake Baxter

2003-05-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Argh! Noo... there is one track which is pure joy for me:

- When we used to play - on KMS

Love that track!


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 My fave Blake Baxter track is 'Ride em Boy'...its on 
 one of those early Detroit Techno compilations..can't 
 remember what its called...
 
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  How is Blake Baxter as a DJ?  I've only heard
  one vinyl of his, which was
  brilliant, it was a double set with a guy with a
  gun on the cover I think,
  the tunes reminded me of DJ Rush, but less
  harsh, and some interesting
  motown sounding samples.  Oh and the track he
  did with Trevor Rockliffe I
  really like too.  Anyone got any other
  recommendations / experiences re:
  Blake Baxter?
  
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(313) Rolando live @ fluid on-line

2003-05-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Hi,

Just wanted to let you know that the set Rolando played at Fluid (Eindhoven,
Holland) is now on-line at the 3voor12.nl website. 

http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/dj_sets/dj_set.shtml?2534202+2584688+2584508+10
731359+10731287

This is one of the very few livesets from him online. Rolando gave his
permission for this liveset (just this time) because apparently he liked the
host of the night :)

enjoy


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RE: (313) Re: Jaguar

2003-05-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I would like to make some people choose to keep control over there own
music of it...

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 If memory serves me correctly a major label did offer to sign 
 jaguar with
 the 
 possibility of remixes but UR and DJ Rolando declined.
 That track could have easily climbed the Billboard dance charts giving
 Detroit techno more exposure in America but some people choose to stay
 underground.
 
 on 5/5/03 3:26 PM, Sean Creen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This simply isn't true. Jaguar was milked for all it was 
 worth. It got a hell
  of a lot of publicity out of the whole Sony thing, had a 
 promo video made, and
  Rolando got serious juice in terms of gigs (where he played 
 the track multiple
  times, plus a lot of other much more commercial tracks than 
 had previously
  been in his sets) out of all of this.
  None of this is to excuse what Sony tried to do, or to dis 
 how UR dealt with
  the situation, but to say that it could have blown up if 
 Rolando had chosen to
  let it is pure bullshit (IMO, of course ;-).
  
  Sean.
 

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RE: (313) iPod pictures (that work)

2003-05-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
OS 1.3 supports AAC but you do need Quicktime 6.2 for it to work. Some guy
also managed to reverse engineer the ipod OS and  managed to install Linux
on it, so a lot of nice things could be possible now:

http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/

But hey am i off-topic or what :))

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 yes they store wave, mp3, and an apple format.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:32 AM
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) iPod pictures (that work)
 
 
 Too bad MP3 quality sucks, do they store CD quality
 audio? they do look like nifty little units.
 
 on 5/6/03 7:37 AM, Roberto Ty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't think iPods will replace the traditional setup, but 
 I guess it'd
 be
  all right for 
  novices. It's like mixing with two CD players with the 
 exception that you
  could have two 
  30GB iPods hooked together and thus over 15,000 songs total 
 to access!
 Their
  slick 
  units.
 

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RE: (313) Afterparties/rant

2003-04-24 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 1: i just visted the technotourist afterparties fourm and 
 there are things
 posted in there that the promoters themselves havent even 
 announced yet.
 hawtin @ necto and speedy j @ envy (of all places...). im not 
 sure of the
 other things posted, if they are speculative or not, but even 
 our weekly
 untitled @ the shelter has been posted, and the contact is set for
 someone who isnt even part of the night! not that we dont 
 appriciate the
 promotions or anything, thanks! but it is because of everyones
 speculations mostly on this list that all this misinformation 
 is getting
 thrown around. if a moderator from detroit is needed, i 
 volunteer myself
 for the job.

Maybe we are a little bit late to react to this but anyway and we are sorry
to see people did post some rumours in our afterparty-list. We think it
doesn't help anyone to post just some rumours and/or speculations in our
database, this would decrease the reliability of the list. So unless you are
the promoter or you are absolutely 100% sure that this party is going on
please do not post. 

In the meanwhile we are working on a way to filter out the rumours and maybe
it is a bit useless to say but technotourist.org is in no way responsible
way for the listed line-up's etc.

CYou can check the list or add a party at:
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Partiesfile=index

or send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: (313) nights out in london

2003-04-24 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 If you like your techno wonky, try:
 
 http://www.uglyfunk.com/clubnight.shtml

Wonky... yeah:

2- ST.UP the war room  STAY UP FOREVER
Liberators [chris  Aaron]

scary acid-tekno :-)



  BTW - John, when are we gonna see Dimension 5 do some live, soulful
  Detroit-influenced techno in London - regular or irregular 
 - I'd go to that
  too! :p
  
  Peace,
  
  Ken
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 7:42 PM
  To: John Harvey; 313
  Subject: Re: (313) nights out in london
  
  
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  From: John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:09 PM
  Subject: (313) nights out in london
  
  
  can anyone recommend any regular nights in london that 
 play soulful
  detroit
  techno/house?
  
  are there any?
  
  
  None that are regular that I can think of, but there are 
 plenty of soulful
  house nights (not necessarilly Detroit), and enough 
 one-offs with Detroit
  focus to keep you plenty happy. It does require some work to keep
  up with it
  though. I highly recommend the Overload board for such 
 activity. Many
  likeminded peoples from all over this island (and beyond) 
 there. Plus it is
  goofy! There are too many good locals DJs to name 
 one-by-one, but if you
  want specific recommendations for DJs or promoters to look 
 for I'll be glad
  to help off-list.
  
  Tristan
  ===
  Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
  Music: http://www.mp313.com
  Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
 

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RE: (313) spotters Q

2003-04-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Where was it pressed??? I think the original pressings were 
 done at archers
  the later one's at nsc. I may be wrong but that's what I thought...

NSC doesn't press records, they just do the cutting. Archers does
pressings...

kj


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 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) spotters Q
 
 I have a trainspotters Q.
 
 I'm just listing some records for ebay as I'm skint and I 
 have a spare copy
 of Nude Photo - what I think is the first pressing.
 
 It has an orange label, with black writing and credits 
 T.Barnett, D.Wynn,
 J.Atkins and D.May.
 
 Is this the first pressing, does anyone know? Any help appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Alex
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RE: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon

2003-04-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Just heard the new Monobox album on Logostics this weekend and it is
amazing, way better the his dissapointing album for Peacefrog whixh just had
2 okay tracks on it. The new monobox is typical Hood, the minimal nation is
back!

KJ

 is hood playing live?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kookie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:46 PM
 To: [-[-]-[]-[|]-]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
 
 
 Uh, its not hype, its on the flyer.  See for yourself
 
 http://www.fusiontechnologyrecords.com/spite_inside.jpg
 - Original Message -
 From: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:08 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
 
 
  I'm the special guest.
 
  dont believe the hype.
 
 
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  From: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 7:52 PM
  Subject: Re: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
 
 
   The special guest is Suburban Knight.  Theres a couple more locals
 playing
   like Shawn Reeves and Bassghost too
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   To: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
   Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 7:29 PM
   Subject: Re: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
  
  
heres the info:
Saturday, May 24th 2003 - TBA - Detroit
  SPITE
  Robert Hood, Special Guest, Allen Gamble, Neil V., 
 Jimmy Hunt, Dan
  Kahn.
$15, 10pm.
   
   
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:59 PM
Subject: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
   
   
 once I find the flyer I will post the details.  its 
 somewhere in my
   studio
 -Joe
   
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon

2003-04-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 The problem with Hood is that his own standard is that high, 
 that if he just
 stands still, some are disappointed. However, I still found 
 Point Blank a
 solid collection of basic techno tracks.

Well i bought the album (Point Blank) on sight but i thought some of the
tracks are really horrible, espescially those non-dancefloor tracks were
just unstructured sounds, not my thing. To me it was not even a selection of
solid techno tracks, well just 2 of the tracks on it, maybe i expected to
much after 'who tought you math'. 




 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 2:38 PM
 To: '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject: RE: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
 
 
 Just heard the new Monobox album on Logostics this weekend and it is
 amazing, way better the his dissapointing album for Peacefrog
 whixh just had
 2 okay tracks on it. The new monobox is typical Hood, the 
 minimal nation is
 back!
 
 KJ
 
  is hood playing live?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kookie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:46 PM
  To: [-[-]-[]-[|]-]; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
 
 
  Uh, its not hype, its on the flyer.  See for yourself
 
  http://www.fusiontechnologyrecords.com/spite_inside.jpg
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  To: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:08 PM
  Subject: Re: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
 
 
   I'm the special guest.
  
   dont believe the hype.
  
  
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   To: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
 313@hyperreal.org
   Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 7:52 PM
   Subject: Re: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
  
  
The special guest is Suburban Knight.  Theres a couple 
 more locals
  playing
like Shawn Reeves and Bassghost too
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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: (313) FYI robert hood in detroit soon
   
   
 heres the info:
 Saturday, May 24th 2003 - TBA - Detroit
   SPITE
   Robert Hood, Special Guest, Allen Gamble, Neil V.,
  Jimmy Hunt, Dan
   Kahn.
 $15, 10pm.


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 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:59 PM
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  once I find the flyer I will post the details.  its
  somewhere in my
studio
  -Joe



   
   
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: (313) Q's

2003-04-17 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


 This Local3000 label - I think I must have missed the 
 discussion. Can I
 only get this in ltd shops ala S.I.D? or is it widely available?

I think that is the idea but just as in the the past there are copies
floating around in other recordstores, i know Rushhour and Clone do have
copies of it.



 Also, what's the deal with all this Drexciya coloured vinyl 
 on Rushhour's
 list? Any new tracks...?

They were repressed in coloured vinyl after James Stinston died, now new
tracks AFAIK just fancy colours


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RE: (313) the weather

2003-04-17 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I have this sick connection between the weather and the weather when i
bought a record, for example i bought AI 2 on Warp in the smmer so whenever
the sun shines i wanna play that album...

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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 Verzonden: donderdag 17 april 2003 16:51
 Aan: 313 list
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) the weather
 
 
 The weather inside my head is a bigger influence.
 Todays forecast: Cloudy, with a chance of anger.
 Music: Godspeed You Black Emporer.
 

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(313) Shake in Holland

2003-04-14 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Hi,

Just a few nice words about Shake, who played a brilliant set last Saturday
here in Holland. His choice of records was amazing, he was going from one
point of the musical spectrum. He was going from Planet Patrol to Rhythm is
Rhythm, from Akufen to Radiohead's Kid A. Brilliant set, one of my best
nights out this year!


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RE: (313) Shake in Holland _ in Paris

2003-04-14 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
 
 Exactly!!
 He played here in Paris, thursday 10th. He did a mix close to 
 this lineup
 you mentioned. He even played one of the last daft punk album 
 track. And
 everything goes so fine! Its not just a big melting pot which 
 has no sense,
 he knows to turn it to a real mix. That was so fresh! Ill 
 keep a very good
 memory of him :)

Yeah, i forgot to mention that, it was not just one big pil of different
records but when he mixed in that radiohead tune or that record from The
Clash it actually made sense. 

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RE: (313) collectors item

2003-04-14 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
that is probably the reason why the huge amount of 0 (that is zero) people
have bidded to this :)

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 Van: Javier Drada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: maandag 14 april 2003 13:51
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) collectors item
 
 
 $100 bills Come on...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Techstylism [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:31 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) collectors item
 
 
 for ur  carl craig collectors:
 
 http://www.techstylism.com/the_record.html
 
 

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RE: (313) collectors item

2003-04-14 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Maybe just a few bucks more then the price of a normal 12. That Carl Craig
is widely avaible and not some kind of special mix. It is more like a dumb
pressing error, i got something similair thing with a Red Planet record, i
thought it was really annoying as i had to buy a 2nd copy to get what i
wanted :)

 Just out of interest guys, how much do you think one of these 
 *should* go
 for?
 
 As for me I have no idea - of course I'd love it, but 
 $100?!?!?! (About £63
 today which feels more comfortable but is not to be spent 
 without thinking).
 
 Thx kindly.
 
 Ken
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:57 PM
 To: 'Javier Drada'; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) collectors item
 
 
 that is probably the reason why the huge amount of 0 (that 
 is zero) people
 have bidded to this :)
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: Javier Drada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Verzonden: maandag 14 april 2003 13:51
  Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
  Onderwerp: RE: (313) collectors item
 
 
  $100 bills Come on...
 
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  Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:31 AM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) collectors item
 
 
  for ur  carl craig collectors:
 
  http://www.techstylism.com/the_record.html
 
 
 
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RE: (313) Re: New Music and Elitism

2003-04-14 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 A good example of what I'm talking about would be Art Payne 
 who wrote for
 Streetsounds 
 magazine in the early 90's, his three or four paragraph 
 article summary
 about the new music
 and labels coming 
 out of Detroit was very informative, it put things in the proper
 perspective.
 Limited discussion about certain
 artist and labels is deceiving, this is why people who 
 observe mailing list
 such as 313 get the
 impression of elitism.
 We have a list member promoting another list members label 
 but a lot of the
 new 313 music is not
 being discussed or mentioned.

Oh no, your not going to slag-off listmembers musics and/or recordlabels? A
lot of high quality producers and labels are on this list, they use it for
the very same reason i use, to get info on detroit techno, here the latest
news about the music they love. I don't know what your problem is with the
music of listmembers, to me a lot of them make beautiful music, the stuff i
like. Lot of them are also infuential names in the techno scene, even
outside this list.

As many other people pointed out to you before, if you miss something add it
to this list. This list is made by their subscribers so the only thing that
makes it better is the subscribbers themsleves...

So if you think we miss something tell it to us as i sure wanna know about
it!


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RE: (313) Shake in Holland _ in Paris

2003-04-14 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
 
 I'm writing an article on him for Dusted Magazine 
 (dustedmagazine.com), if
 anyone feels like sending along any thoughts.

What just rabdom thoughts? :)

Or do you wanna know why he is the best? Maybe it is because Shake does what
Shake wants? :) This results in unique records who could only be made him? I
can't remember i have ever been disapointed in a new shake 12. Hans said
last saturday that actually every record from Shake sounds like a mini album
because of the wide range of tracks on it.

Now we are talking about an album: WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE A FULL LENGTH
ALBUM SHAKE?

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 On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Kent williams wrote:
 
  THIS JUST IN: SHAKE IS THE BEST
  *reporters rush for the phones*
 
  Shake always manages to bring tears to my eyes.
 
  On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Grammenos, Peter wrote:
  
   this is the same exact reaction thomas brinkman had when he
   heard shake play... interesting. i'de love to hear him play.
  
   but when he mixed in that  tune or that record from 
   it actually made sense.
  
   -Pete
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: (313) UR

2003-04-11 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Sorry to make you less evil here but that was a perfectly legal re-press
from Djax, there were a couple of white label re-presses of Djax around that
time. I can remember DJ Skull's Met'L'Gear floating around as white label
to. 

 You know, I really don't seem to remember ever hearing anyone 
 complaining
 about the boot legging of the Set Up 707 record that Edge of 
 Motion put out
 on DJAX.  I know DJAX had a limited press run that was put on 
 clear vinyl.
 Probaby around 1,000 copies.  DJAX never pressed another copy 
 of it...yet I
 remember Record Time getting two very large shipments of this 
 in on black
 white label vinyl.  And I remember all my frineds being so 
 happy that it was
 bootlegged so they could finally have a copy.  I bought 2 
 copies of it...I
 sold one on eBay last year for $20.  How evil does that make me??
 

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RE: (313) artists vs. bootlegging

2003-04-11 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I have to agree. First of all the artist who made record never gets any
money from a bootleg, the bootleggers are cashing in on money belonging to
first of all the artist and second to the original record label. The
bootleggers are getting money which does not belong to them, they are
stealing it, it is a theft.

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 I find myself waiting for Otto to chime in here (the man has 
 a doctorate in
 issues relating to supply and demand after all).  But I don't 
 want to put
 him on the spot.  ;)  So here's my humble opinion:
 
 Unfortunately, this may be the result of fallout from the heavyhanded
 tactics of the record industry.  Let me try to clarify.
 
 Underground Artist X forms a label and minimizes supply as an artistic
 statement or business decision (whichever, does not matter).  
 Greedy Fan Y
 decides to cash in on higher demand by bootlegging.  Greedy Fan Y is
 breaking the law.  Y could have asked for licensing rights 
 and given a cut
 back to artist X.  
 
 But artist X will not do business with Y, in part because of 
 a complete
 mistrust fostered by the record industry's history of ripping 
 off artists.
 
 This is the pure (albeit ugly) nature of free markets, no?  
 Survival of the
 opportunist?  I am NOT condoning bootlegging.
 
 The piece that's missing is the free flow of information from 
 the willing
 buyer to the copyright owner.  This is what a lot of artists 
 are trying to
 figure out lately.  Of course I am not taking into account 
 the economics of
 vinyl production and single copy distribution.
 
 Final thoughts:  If that pre-order deepchord CD was available 
 from their
 site, I'd order now.  I am about to own a legit copy of 
 Beltran's 10 Days
 of Blue after waiting 6 years to hear it.
 -- 
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RE: (313) artists vs. bootlegging

2003-04-11 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 and talking about stealing ... the reason why Moodyman can't 
 repress is
 ..well you know .. ;) .. even if he did a great job

No don't know, tell me by the sound of it he told you :)


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RE: (313) artists vs. bootlegging

2003-04-11 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 in the instance that you are discussing here the 'piece of 
 art' is the whole
 package, right? a bootlegged copy isn't actually the same artifact so
 someone who buys that isn't actually getting the real deal, if indeed
 releasing only a few of the actual item is part of the 
 artistic 'statement'.
 this statement isn't compromised by producing a 'fake' 
 version, the profits
 might be though.

This is only the case for some record collectors who are looking for that
very first original unside out :) Some people just want the music.

 
 it would be the same as your vase maker making only 5 vases 
 and then someone
 piling in with 500 reproductions - in years to come the 
 objects that hold
 value (monetary) will be the five originals.

Dunno what your trying to say with this? There are legal laws in the music
industry protecting your artistic creations and giving you the right to
control it. 


 
 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:22:12 -0500
 To: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   313@hyperreal.org
 From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: artists vs. bootlegging
 Message-ID:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  the bootleggers would have a lot less market if the record were =
 repressed
 
 I can't disagree with that logic.  BUT... I've been following this =
 thread for awhile and a voice I'm not hearing in this debate 
 (that is =
 kind of troubling to me, actually) is the rights of the 
 ARTIST.  Art is =
 not necessarily subject to the same demands as say, any old consumer =
 product where the goal is to sell as many as possible (say, 
 toothpaste =
 or something).  One of the benefits of owning and running 
 your own label =
 (or printshop, for example) is to control the trickle - or 
 flood - of =
 your art into an art-buyers market -- more control over your own =
 destiny.  You can still keep things limited or special if, as the =
 artist, you feel like that is a part of your 'statement' so 
 to speak, of =
 what you have created.=20
 
 When a famous potter makes a vase, and they decide to make 5 
 of them, =
 not 500... it makes that vase unique.  You have to think the 
 artist has =
 a reason to only make 5 if that's what they choose.
 
 Is everyone forgetting that the artist has a right to release 
 as many or =
 as few pieces of art as they feel?   Sure there are ramifications of =
 releasing few, I'm not denying that:  if demand is high 
 enough and the =
 art is scarce, it may get bootlegged.  That is a risk. =20
 
 But an artist of any medium is certainly never OBLIGED to 
 fill the needs =
 of every consumer!  That is the artists right.  I have detected this =
 slight tone of well if he just would have pressed up more it 
 wouldn't =
 matter, he deserved it, etc. -- but the reality is sometimes 
 an artist =
 might want LESS of something out there, not more, as part of the =
 artistic statement itself.  I respect artists who choose to release =
 less, not more... even if I can't have a copy myself.  But 
 that doesn't =
 necessarily mean I'm going to bootleg it (and profit from it) 
 if I can't =
 find my copy.=20
 
 peace,
 Matt
 
 
 

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RE: (313) American Artists overseas

2003-04-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 It' s not that american artists don't get booked, they still 
 get booked in
 Holland but they refuse to fly over to Europe now. A series 
 of concerts
 which was supposed to take place over here with Jay-z, Erika Baduh and
 Grandmasterflash (not techno, i know, but Baduh sounds pretty 
 relaxed at
 home:-) was cancelled because they are afraid of flying over, 
 also matchbox
 20 and some other guitarbands refused to fly over, not sure 
 about the peeps
 in technoscene (anyone ever heard someting about that?). So i 
 don't think
 it's a question of not getting booked, i think it 's more a 
 question of
 artists willing to come over (even if they are booked), in 
 these times.

And american artists being afraid to fly and cancel gigs will result in less
bookings by European promoters because they won't take the gamble on booking
an US artists who could not show up and cancel the gig

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 Just a thought on a lousy thursdaymorning...
 
 Martijn
 
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 From: Greg::Malcolm . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:08 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) American Artists overseas
 
 
  i was in holland for a festival last week, and was treated 
 very kindly by
  the dutch ppl i met, they are very anti-bush more than they are
  anti-american.
 
  ppl there referred to the US as the empire, and when we 
 landed @ detroit
  en route to cleveland, it really seemed like the opening 
 scene out of the
  first star wars...ppl were getting up and getting their 
 luggage, when an
  announcement came out that US customs agents had entered 
 the plane...they
  were armed and had a german shepard, and removed a few 
 middle eastern men,
  who were presumably on some kind of country threat list.  
 one was sitting
  two chairs down from me...very scary and most of the plane, who were
  foreingers were very anxious as well.
 
  GREG MALCOLM // TWINE // HTTP://TWINESOUND.COM
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CC: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) American Artists overseas
  Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:42:09 +0100
  
  Hey,
  
  *I've* been attacked by skinheads - in East Germany! (At least they
  attempted to attack me!)
  
  The good thing about skinheads is that they effectively don't
 discriminate!
  They hate everybody who disagrees with them (which is virtually
 everybody!)
  
  Ken
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 3:33 PM
   To: Odeluga, Ken
   Cc: 313 list
   Subject: (313) American Artists overseas
   
   
   I hope you're right, that American artists are still 
 getting booked.
   A good friend of mine who isn't a techno artist was 
 rather frightened
   on his last tour in Germany, where he was harrassed by 
 skin heads and
   yelled at for being Americans elsewhere.
   
   Here's hoping, all evidence to the contrary, that we're 
 not entering a
  new
   dark age.
   
   On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
American artists are less welcome
in Europe given the current troubles.
   
Current US/European political agreements aside, I can't see how
   this would
contribute to US artists of any kind being overlooked 
 for bookings
  here.
   
In 'big business' (the ugly specter of which I raise, just for
   the sake of a
comparison and an example) long-term well-known relationships
   are as normal
with no question of wider considerations altering that.
   
The only thing that's hurting everybody (inlcuding all types of
 music)
  is
the global economic slowdown.
   
   
 
 
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RE: (313) Acid Jazz (Best Acid Lines In The World...Ever!!)

2003-04-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Jupiter Jazz - UR

And of course Hi-tech jazz from UR

 Da Funk - Daft Punk
 Bitstream - Double Density
 Black Dog - That one off 'Spanners' (the techno-ragga-eastern one)
 Rhythim is Rhythim - It is what it is
 
 Can't think...please add more

Choice - Acid Eifel
The first record on A13, can't remember the title but i thinkit is Mark
Broom and some one else (Plaid?)
That Balil record on Rising High
Railway Raver on Rephlex


Is ther an acid mix from It is what it is never heard of that one???

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RE: (313) Acid Jazz (Best Acid Lines In The World...Ever!!)

2003-04-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: dinsdag 8 april 2003 12:21
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Acid Jazz (Best Acid Lines In The World...Ever!!)
 
 
  Is ther an acid mix from It is what it is never heard of that one???
 
 
 I was thinking of the main melody line - it opens the track? 
 Sounded like a
 303 to me, but maybe not! Interesting - does an acid line 
 have to come from
 a 303, or can it just have that 'sound', i.e. what is acid? 
 The machine or
 the sound?
 
 Andrew

Isn't that just the infamous lately bass out of a FM box? But i agree, Mr.
Fingers washing machine is extremely acid to me but it doesn't not sound
like a 303 but is acidic :)




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 From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Andrew' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:18 AM
 Subject: RE: (313) Acid Jazz (Best Acid Lines In The World...Ever!!)
 
 
 
   Jupiter Jazz - UR
 
  And of course Hi-tech jazz from UR
 
   Da Funk - Daft Punk
   Bitstream - Double Density
   Black Dog - That one off 'Spanners' (the techno-ragga-eastern one)
   Rhythim is Rhythim - It is what it is
  
   Can't think...please add more
 
  Choice - Acid Eifel
  The first record on A13, can't remember the title but i 
 thinkit is Mark
  Broom and some one else (Plaid?)
  That Balil record on Rising High
  Railway Raver on Rephlex
 
 
  Is ther an acid mix from It is what it is never heard of that one???
 
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RE: (313) detroit music awards

2003-04-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 I was just looking on the technotourist site and I noticed 
 something about
 the detroit music awards.
 
 Of the 4 LP's up for 'outstanding LP award', I only know one, 
 and I also
 don't even know the artists who are up for the award.

Personally i thought it was typical they listed Drexciya, they have been
releasing albums a lot the last couple of years but they got their attention
after James Stinton died, so i wonder why they are up there now, is it
truelly for the music or just because they have been in the media a lot
lately?

 
 Can anyone tell me a little more about them, might I like them?
 
 They were;
 
 'Techno Hippies'
 'Quaker Cage'
 'Twilight Babies'
 

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RE: (313) detroit music awards

2003-04-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
The category they are listed is electronic/dance the rock/punk/funk/soul/rb
etc. are other names.

Techno Hippies... my god that sounds like a old dutch happy hardcore act
:)))

kj


 
 I don't think these awards are confined to electronic music, 
 so many of the
 acts are, I suspect, rock bands 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:04 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) detroit music awards
 
 
 mornin'
 
 I was just looking on the technotourist site and I noticed 
 something about
 the detroit music awards.
 
 Of the 4 LP's up for 'outstanding LP award', I only know one, 
 and I also
 don't even know the artists who are up for the award.
 
 Can anyone tell me a little more about them, might I like them?
 
 They were;
 
 'Techno Hippies'
 'Quaker Cage'
 'Twilight Babies'
 
 Thanks..
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RE: (313) Acid Jazz (Best Acid Lines In The World...Ever!!)

2003-04-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


 McBride did a lot of great acid - Rattlesnake is another great one

Now we are on the banging side of techno more good essential but banging
acid:
Beverly Hills 808303 - Six Pack (Reference)
Mundo Muzique - Evil Acid (Sinewave)
Mike Dearborn - Birds en E. (Djax)
Edge of Motion - Setup 707 (Djax)
The Shamen - Ebenezerer Goode (Richie Hawtin's south of Detroit Intrumental)
The Acid Junkies - EP#2 (Djax)
Random XS - Give Your Body (Djax)
The Stickmen - XXX (Stickmen)
UR - Acid Rain vol 1/3 (Shockwave)
Joey Beltram - It's Cold (Trax)

Oh and we all forgot about his amazing one:
System 7 - Alphawave (plastikman's acid house mix)

oh dear this list is endless :


 Treble coincidence - I was listening toWarp's  Blech! comp in bed on
 Saturday morning and the Acid mix made me get up.
 
 
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 To: Andrew
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 Subject: Re: (313) Acid Jazz (Best Acid Lines In The World...Ever!!)
 
 
 
  And what about the Acid Mix of Tied Up by LFO???!!
 
  I'm playing it now - it intnse!!!
 
 that's a coincidence, i was lsietning to that the other 
 nite...goes off
 the deepend halfway through :)
 
 personally i like my acid to be deeper rather than screaming 
 and distorted
 
 
 no-ones mentioned Basketball heroes - woody mcbride yet
 
 
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RE: (313) Acid Jazz (Best Acid Lines In The World...Ever!!)

2003-04-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Oh and we all forgot about his amazing one:
 System 7 - Alphawave (plastikman's acid house mix)
 
 oh dear this list is endless :

Oh and everything touched by Erik van de Broek with a 303 in it of
course okay i am going to stop this now :))

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(313) Clone against Groovetech.com

2003-03-26 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Send into this cyberworld by Clone.nl:


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 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 For everyone in and around the music business (Distributors, 
 Artists, Dj's
 , Press , Music lovers and Buyers)... please read this 
 message carefully!!
 (and sorry if you get this twice!)
 
 An important message about Groovetech.com !
  
 For everyone who supports independant labels and artists...
 (the source where all good music comes from in the first 
 placeno matter
 wich sound or music style it is)
  
 We feel that we have to advice people not to deal with 
 Groovetech if you
 don't want to help and destroy the independant music industry.
  
 In our opinion this is a company who steels money from small 
 independant
 labels  in order to build their own imperium (with our money!) 
 Our advice : Don't cooperate with them in any way... you 
 don't need them! 
 
 Groove Tech owes us money for invoices wich should have been 
 payed months
 and months ago!!  We gave them more then reasonable opportunity to pay
 us... but they don't do anything in order to handle this in a 
 good way! 
 They are lying and just being arrogant and they ignore 
 reminders, phone
 calls, emails etc. This is about amounts of money they can 
 pay without big
 problems... but small independant companies are no high 
 priority for them
 and they know that there is not much these small companies 
 can do against
 this sort of thievery by a company the size of Groovetech.
 
 e believe there are enough other online retailers or radio 
 stations where
 you can get what you need without harming others... 
 
 note : We are not trying to damage anyone.. but we want 
 people to know how
 Groovetech (the so called #1 online retailer) works.
 
 We can not accept the way they treat us. They are damaging us!!  
 Its just a matter of principles and good manners! 
 
 Offcourse we are no judge and we don't want to judge them... 
 we just tell
 our experiences and give you an advice based on these experiences.
 
 Thanks for your attention and sorry if this is spam to you. 
 next mail out will be about music again!
 
 peace
 
 Clone
 www.clone.nl
 

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RE: (313) Clone against Groovetech.com

2003-03-26 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Mike Tyrer asked me to forward this to the list:

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Mike Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Verzonden: woensdag 26 maart 2003 10:34
 Aan: Jongsma, K.J.
 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Clone against Groovetech.com
 
 a few weeks back I was talking to a top rank UK DJ who claimed he gave
 Groovetech a lot of help and assistance when they started out and his
 opinion was they shafted him in no uncertain terms.  He 
 will have nothing
 to do with them now and can not say a good word about them.  
 He told me
 (gleefully) they were in trouble - a few days later they 
 closed down their
 seattle broadcasting.
 
 I don't know the full ins and outs of this but in light of 
 the other rant
 against Groovetech maybe the smaller distributors on the list 
 may want to be
 a little more wary in their extending of long-term credit.
 
 Regards
 

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RE: (313) Keynote

2003-03-26 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 I guess this is a message for Otto, but I don't have his address.
 
 Does Keynote records have a website? I did a search, but 
 couldn't find one.

There is no Keynote website...


 I got a copy of the Stinkworx ep on Keynote on Monday, and it's really
 good. There was one track on there which is just outstanding, 
 I was trying
 to find the name of it out as my copy is at home - but can't see the
 website.

it is called Drexion Caves and it is verry good indeed, defenitely one of
his best tracks on there!  



 Highly recommended btw, although I've not seen it in the 
 shops over here
 yet. Has it had a release in the UK?

Yeah i think so, otherwise you could always order it through Groovetech.
erm i mean Clone.nl :))

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RE: (313) parties in London (or near) this weekend

2003-03-25 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: dinsdag 25 maart 2003 10:11
 Aan: Rc; 313
 Onderwerp: Re: (313) parties in London (or near) this weekend
 
 
 Clone are doing a party at 93 Feet East on friday I think.

Just the 80's retro from Legowelt and Banglok Impact:

Legowelt  Bangkok Impact 
28-03-03 London - UK - more info soon. Bangkok Impact UK album release! 

check clone.nl


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 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: 25 March 2003 08:29
 Subject: (313) parties in London (or near) this weekend
 
 
  I was wondering if anyone could suggest any promising 
 looking parties or
  club nights in or around London this weekend - for a friend 
 that's into
  deeper house, disco, italo etc.
  
  thanks for any help
  rc
  
  
 

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RE: (313) handbags

2003-03-24 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Nice to see another private message pop-up on this list, how nice of you

look better next time will you!


 -Original Message-
 From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:08 PM
 To: Jongsma, K.J.
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) handbags
 
 
 I'm sorry you feel this way KJ. Music is a sound and can't 
 been seen, so
 hence has no colour you can like it or not.
 
 As for Race is always an issue... I don't know what colour 
 you are? It
 makes no difference to me either it's what you've got to 
 say and do that
 interests me, not the colour of your skin.
 
 If you have a problem with colour then I can understand why 
 race is always
 an issue to you in your world, however, please don't accuse 
 the rest of us
 of being the same as you!
 
 It is however your right to voice your own opinion, I will 
 choose not to
 listen to it next time, as I feel you have been misguided in life.
 
 I hope you have a nice day though :O)
 
 Peace.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 15:36
 To: 'rob'
 Subject: RE: (313) handbags
 
 
 
  I hope colour does not come into it again, music has no colour!
 
 bullshit, music HAS colour, like it or not.
 
 
 Race is always an issue
 
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RE: (313) Subject: RE: (313) Records Stores In London

2003-03-21 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
hoorah! for Jonny Mcintosh! :)))

kj



 -Original Message-
 From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:39 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Subject: RE: (313) Records Stores In London
 
 
 Some of the staff at the Music and Video Exchange shops in 
 London are by far the most moody staff in the world - once 
 one of them threw records at me and stormed off, and another 
 time one got really pissed off as I questioned whether he had 
 correctly added up a pile of records  (he was right but only 
 because some of the prices were wrote on incoherently).  If 
 you do end up there, the cyclist guy with the teeth is always 
 friendly and polite, and the chef guy is never rude.
 
 The award for moodiest record store staff of all time goes to 
 Kenny at Spinn Inn in Manchester back in the late 80s, early 
 90s - I figured they closed down because people couldn't take 
 being in the presence of the moody c***!
 
 David
 

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RE: (313) Subject: RE: (313) Records Stores In London

2003-03-21 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Kewl! have to remind that always good for a laugh!


 There's one bloke in Koobla, I think he's in charge sort of, 
 a lot thinner
 and 'squarer' then the rest. Whatever you do, don't ask him 
 about Basic
 Channel! I think his dog or something, might died whilst 
 listening to one of
 their records 'cause he just goes red and extremely agitated 
 if you ask him
 the most seemingly innocuous question about them!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:38 PM
 To: David Hampson; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Subject: RE: (313) Records Stores In London
 
 
 i thought MVE in soho were fine, but the guys in the notting hill
 one - they
 act like you want to start a fight with them. obviously 
 their filing and
 talking to each other and listening to the football is more 
 important than
 the customers :)
 
 that said the staff in koobla, angel basement and reckless 
 berwick st have
 always been particularly friendly, and i dont ask any questions!
 
 ab
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 12:09 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Subject: RE: (313) Records Stores In London
 
 
 Some of the staff at the Music and Video Exchange shops in London
 are by far
 the most moody staff in the world - once one of them threw records
 at me and
 stormed off, and another time one got really pissed off as I 
 questioned
 whether he had correctly added up a pile of records  (he was 
 right but only
 because some of the prices were wrote on incoherently).  If 
 you do end up
 there, the cyclist guy with the teeth is always friendly and
 polite, and the
 chef guy is never rude.
 
 The award for moodiest record store staff of all time goes to
 Kenny at Spinn
 Inn in Manchester back in the late 80s, early 90s - I 
 figured they closed
 down because people couldn't take being in the presence of 
 the moody c***!
 
 David
 
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(313) SCAN 7's Stay Below The Radar Tour and special gallery

2003-02-26 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Taken from technotourist.org:

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SCAN 7's Stay Below The Radar Tour and special gallery 
Posted by: TTBelgium

As Detroit underground outfit are gearing up for a new tour
Technotourist.org has prepared a special gallery to support these true
warriors of the underground. This unique gallery includes exclusive images
from previous tours and some special pictures. Read on for more details
about SCAN 7's upcoming operations and don't forget to check out the
interview with Trackmasta Lou and One of Seven on this site. 

SCAN 7 has built up a more than solid live reputation. Their energetic live
shows have never failed to blow the roof of every venue they play. So they
get asked back and as a result they are now ready to embark upon the 'Stay
Below The Radar Tour'. Make sure to hook up The Unknown Force aka Trackmasta
Lou and One Of Seven at the following locations:

March 8: 013, Tilburg, Holland, together with Robert Hood.
March 14: Nemo's Underground Adventures, Brussels, Belgium: Brussels to
Detroit by boat!
March 15: Club Tresor's 12th Birthday Party!, Tresor, Berlin, Germany.
March 19: Radio Nova, Paris, France, SCAN 7 delivers a message to the
people.
March 21: Nouveau Casino, Paris, France, with Serge Nicolas (Paradise
Massage).
March 22: Rub-A-Dub/Club 69, Glasgow, Scotland. 

Click the links below for more info: 
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alleryfile=indexinclude=view_album.php

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Or just check technotourist.org :)


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RE: (313) [313] the Interface Records story.

2003-02-25 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
It was a short lived sublabel from Metroplex, i just have seen a few
releases around. I have not seen any old recrds recently so i asume they are
pretty rare nowadays.

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  hi folks.  speaking of Interface Records...  what is the 
 story behind this short-lived label?  who ran it?  was it a 
 subsidiary of a larger label?  why such a brief existence?  
 any info would be appreciated.
 
  cheers
  lrh
 

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RE: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London

2003-02-25 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
 
 Not sure what sparked this...but, I second that.  If I don't 
 agree with someone's view on somethingI simply don't 
 reply.  Why give them the fire they're looking for?

Hmm then you would ned up with a really boring list actually. Just don't
reply to obvious flame bait... 

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 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:40 AM
 To: Darren Longton (Marketing); 313@hyperreal.org;
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 Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
 
 
 I believe strongly in freedom of speech: you should be allowed to say
 whatever you want.
 
 However, I have no obligation to help you say what you want using my
 resources.
 
 But, just as I have an obligation not to try to stop you from 
 saying what
 you want, other people have an obligation not to try to strip 
 you of the
 right of doing as you will with your mind and body.
 
 Further, none of these topics must be taboo.
 If it makes you uptight to talk about them, then it's probably a very
 healthy thing to explore them, gingerly if necessarily.
 
 Freedom of speech is one of the core principles of the 
 United States'
 charter. 
 
 Speech can be a threatening thing.
 Some belief systems have a hard time withstanding free communication.
 Some flourish. 
 The basic guarantee of freedom of speech in the US is 
 frequently ignored and
 often fought against by people who feel threatened by it.
 
 
 For those who take the freedoms of our society for granted, 
 wake up and
 smell the coffee.  
 Free speech is one of the key reasons we have a free society.
 
 I'm not looking for a fight, it just makes me sick to constantly hear:
 
 don't' say this...
 don't say that...
 don't have an opinion...
 blah blah blah...
 
 if someone sends and e-mail on 313 and i don't agree or i 
 dislike his/her
 views, i for one will NEVER tell them not to say this or 
 that, it's there
 right to express themselves.
 I mean who do you really think you are...?
 
 Censorship sucks.
 
 Rob Jarvis
 
 Victoria Music Ltd.
 Unit 215 old gramaphone works
 326 Kensal Road
 London
 W10 5BZ
 + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice
 + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax
 
 http://www.victoria-music.com
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 pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + 
 housedust + nepenta +
 u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique 
 + hypercubic +
 radio sonic + neon + feedback
 
  From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:59:55 -0500
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
  
  313 police...that IS funnyalthough the REAL Detroit 
 police would probably
  beat you up, take your $$ and give you a ticket for 
 standing there bleeding.
  hahaha
  
  well at least, beat you up, take your drugs and give 
 you a ticket for
  dancingbeen there.  (can someone say...Whirly Gig)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:15 AM
  To: MM; ian cheshire
  Cc: seth redmond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
  
  
  Phew!   
  
  313 Police...i like that one, thnx Ian.
  
  
  
  Rob Jarvis (speaking his mind)
  
  Victoria Music Ltd.
  Unit 215 old gramaphone works
  326 Kensal Road
  London
  W10 5BZ
  + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice
  + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax
  
  http://www.victoria-music.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger)
  
  pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + 
 housedust + nepenta +
  u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds 
 unique + hypercubic +
  radio sonic + neon + feedback
  
  From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:32:40 -0700
  To: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], seth redmond
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
  
  its kinda funny someone speaks there mind and everyone 
 gets there panties in
  a
  bunchi think the key word here is RESPECT.rob is 
 intitled to his
  opinions and so is everyone elsenot everyone see's 
 everything the same
  wayso who cares if comments are madeif you don't 
 like it don't
  reply..i am tired of the 313 police ..sorry but 
 this just makes me
  laugh
  
  ian cheshire wrote:   aren't you the guy that stole 
 Killabite of Ben Sims and
  yet now
  your hinting that if you like that sort of techno
  
  i will be thinking of all of you tonight when ectomorph is 
 playing live and
  TRAXX following.mm  dirty electro
  
  michael
  www.renegaderhythms.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  ian cheshire wrote:
  
  and what is that kind of Techno?
  
  You know I 

RE: (313) Theo Parrish

2003-02-24 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
and for the dutchies among us, Theo will be playing in Amsterdam @ Paradiso
on friday the 7th of March

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 8th March, Plastic People, London
 http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk
 
 ... and I have my ticket already. Yay! : )
 
 Anya
 
  From: Ryan  Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon 24/Feb/2003 12:25 GMT
  To: 'Mann, Ravinder   [CCS]' [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
 'Toby Frith'
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  Subject: RE: (313) Theo Parrish
  
  Will have to check that out.  Didn't manage to go - is 
 electric chair
  tickets hard to come by? Theo delivers on and off the 
 court, even for a
  techno man like myself.  Is he playing other gigs in the uk?

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RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
well that's business friend :)

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: maandag 10 februari 2003 12:23
 Aan: 'Alex Bates'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) [313] reckless
 
 
 Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
 cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever 
 done) and a couple
 of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up 
 on the wall for
 £40!
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
 To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless
 
 
 IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
 basement)
 
 ab
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
 
 
  Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd 
 hand copy of a
  GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
 Oldham'.
  Is this correct?
 
  (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I 
 wanted to ask
  this.)
  k
 
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  From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
  To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
  Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
  
  
  If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are 
 very May-esque
  
  on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of 
 PF043 atmosfear,
   glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
  datroit...
   is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and 
 derrick actually
   collaborated at some time?
  
   peace,
   lrh
  
  
 
 
 
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RE: (313)recordshops (was reckless)

2003-02-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 best store in the world maybee?
 
 I didn´t found a better one yet..

Clone in Rotterdam and what is the name of that store in NYC, A1 i think?
that was impressive to!

Of course legendary shops include I-F's Hotmix store in The Hague, Fat Cat

 
 I want to london for record shopping and found 35 records of 
 my wantlist in
 reckless.. and most of the items were very rare...
 
 Oh man... Reckless is great..
 
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RE: (313) lost talent

2003-02-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Anyone here who still has a working link to the website of Irdial? I had one
but it looks like it is no longer there...

kj

  last i spoke lee grainge two years ago
  he seemed to be pretty busy running the fat cat label (or 
 do i confuse
  things?)
 
 Lee worked in Smallfish for a while, but is currently doing a sound
 engineering/multimedia college course I think, as Rob mentioned...
 
 I don't think he's involved with the Fat Cat label - are you 
 thinking of
 Alex Knight maybe?
 
  i read somewhere derrick may, has some kenny larkin 
 material coming. but
  there has been more promised in the past - there still 
 should be the seven
  nights album?
 
 There is a new Kenny Larkin double album ready to go (which 
 is excellent -
 I've been lucky enough to hear it!). He's currently looking 
 for the right
 label to release it I believe...
 

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RE: Re[2]: (313) production and mastering

2003-02-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
2 weeks ago Buzz Goreewas spinning over here, some guy booked him with 2
other DJ's who where playing banging looptechno, Buzz was playing the middle
of them. All the looptechno records where extremely compressed, it was just
one solid wall of sound pushing out of the speakers while the records Buzz
was playing used a way more subtile compression giving these records lots
more dynamics. 

I prefer to use compression in a more subtile way to, just to keep the
dynamics and to keep the track alive

Personally i think that the biggest advantage of digital systems like
protools are for producers. No way you can hear in a club if it is mixed on
an analog desk or a digital one. For producers it works faster and easier,
sure it gives a cleaner sound but to be honest, that is almost not hearable
on a soundsystem.

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  The only production technique that consistently annoys me is the
  over-use of compression.  Many producers will say they do it to get
 
  An over-compressed track is like a black and white photograph that's
  90% flat white and 10% flat black black, with no grey in between.
 
 many people try to hide the fact that they cannot mix without 
 compressors; mixing the sounds of tune is more important than 
 compressing the sh*t out of it. mixing is art, it takes time 
 to master 
 it.
 
 i tend to use compressors a bit; i try not to overuse them; 
 and yes, i 
 know, my mixing skills suck. (no, i'm not referring to 
 playing records)

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RE: (313) ULR/Juan Atkins

2003-02-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Well i don't know how many records there are on URL (i thought my copy said
ULRT btw.) but i have one called 'Future Sound EP' and it is really
beautiful.

Who or what is ULR and is the same label as ULRT?


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 Well, the one on GEMM is called Future Sound EP - I hope it's 
 the right one,
 I've just f*ing bought it!
 If you could check though, that would be really helpful - 
 thanks a lot,
 
 Andrew
 
 
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 From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Andrew' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:44 AM
 Subject: RE: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'
 
 
 I know the atkins record you are talking about. On ULR right? 
 Something with
 Vision in the name i think. I'll have to look it up back at 
 home tongiht
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: donderdag 6 februari 2003 11:29
 To: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet; 313 mailing list
 Subject: Re: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'
 
 
 Oh, and the Sujects on is -
 
 The Subjects VS Jeff Mills - Dark Matter - Underground Level 
 Recordings (or
 just ULR)
 
 I desperately want this record, and a Juan Atkins on the same 
 label. Hard to
 find.
 
 
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 From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'
 
 
  Thanks to all those who contributed suggestions, very much 
 appreciated!
  Here's the final list I collated:
 
  Rarities
 
  - Final Cut: Deep Into The Cut LP
  - Code Assault: Action! [Wizard mix] (Technika)
  - Jeff Mills: Mosainga (React) £250!
  - Axis 009A and 009B (with the original gold labels)
  - Every Dog Has Its Day Parts 1  2 (Axis) [esp. Pt 1 vinyl]
  - Jeff Mills: (forget the title) EP (International DeeJay 
 Gigolos) -with
 the
  original Arnold Schwarzenegger sleeve artwork, not later 
 reprints with Sid
  Vicious
  - An unreleased EP on Essence Records - 100 copies, goes for £250+
  - Rob Hood: Minimal nation dblepack (Axis) - some 
 mispressed copies have
  unreleased Mills tracks - sells for £200+
  - Servo Unique: Servo Unique (Luxury Records) - a house 
 label he set up
 that
  only lasted one release - £30 - £50
  - Lionrock: Packet Of Peace [Mills remix] (Deconstruction)
  - Jeff Mills  Rob Hood (Axis X) includes 'Sleep Cycles', 
 later featured
 on
  the M-Plant reissue of 'Minimal Nation'
  - 'Psychosis (Axis, AX-20)
  - 'Time Machine' (Axis 800)
  - Laurent Garnier: Crispy Bacon [Mills remix] (F Communications)
  - HM: Tranquiliser EP (Axis)
  - HM: Drama EP (Axis) [HM = Hood  Mills]
  - Final Cut w/ True Faith: Take Me Away (US Paragon, UK Network)
  - The Subject: Dark Matter [Mills remix] (can't remember label -
 Underground
  something, not Resistance) [picture disc]
 
 
  Biggest tracks/records
 
  Alarms (from Steam Pit EP) (Axis)
  IF EP (Axis)
  Step To Enchantment (Stringent) (Axis)
  Man From Tomorrow, The Extremist, The Hacker, Manlike, DNA, 
 Reverting, The
  Bells, At First Sight (on various Axis EPs mostly)
  Millsart: Gammaplayer [on Humana EP] (Axis)
  DJ Hell: Allerseelen [Jeff Mills Mix] (Disko B)
  Waveform Transmission vol 1. (Tresor) [esp. the mad piano 
 track - can't
  remember title]
  X-102: Discovers The Rings Of Saturn (Axis? or Tresor?)
 
 
 
 
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RE: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'

2003-02-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
 
 Another rare Atkins one I'm after is the Interface Records 
 Sampler Vol. 1.
 It has a track called 'Sirkut' which appeared on a few compilations
 (discogs.com has the scoop), but it's a mutha to find.

Are you sure that is a Juan Atkins track? I have a record from Reel by Real
on Interface but that is Martin Bonds and Juan Atkins

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RE: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'

2003-02-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 I've got this, it was a Metroplex sampler and was then 
 licensed to Peacefrog i think, but was never fully released 
 on either, though correct me if thats wrong. I think only one 
 of the cuts was by Atkins, it also had Mind you Don't trip by 
 Neuropolotique (amazing track!), Sonar 123 by Shake and 
 Starlight by Infiniti (Atkins). The Surkit track was by Reel By Reel.

That whole compilation was pretty brilliant actually! What happened to Matt
Cogger i got some  records of him on Irdial (i love that 'Menage a Trois'
record) and the Mind You don't trip. Has he done anything else worth
listening to? 

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RE: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'

2003-02-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Oh right, yeah that is the same guy, brilliant compilation... with one of
Stefan Robbers best tracks on it besides 'At les' and Icon

 Was he the guy who did the Neuropolitique track on Virtual Sex?
 
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 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:42 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'
 
 
 
  I've got this, it was a Metroplex sampler and was then 
  licensed to Peacefrog i think, but was never fully released 
  on either, though correct me if thats wrong. I think only one 
  of the cuts was by Atkins, it also had Mind you Don't trip by 
  Neuropolotique (amazing track!), Sonar 123 by Shake and 
  Starlight by Infiniti (Atkins). The Surkit track was by 
 Reel By Reel.
 
 That whole compilation was pretty brilliant actually! What 
 happened to Matt
 Cogger i got some  records of him on Irdial (i love that 
 'Menage a Trois'
 record) and the Mind You don't trip. Has he done anything else worth
 listening to? 
 
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RE: (313) steve rachmad

2003-02-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Yeah there where 5 or 6 Tons of Tones records on USofA and i compilation CD
i think. But i still prefer his work for ESP and 100% Pure


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 Weren't there a few on Urban Sound Of Amsterdam?
 I have a beautiful track called Smooth Touches on a Rumour comp called
 TechnoFunk that was on that label.
 
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 Subject: RE: (313) steve rachmad
 
 
 
 Yeah - I have tons of tones 2 but its not as good as the 
 first imo - dunno
 if there were more than this.
 
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 :
 :Hi,
 :Further to my Tons of Tones inquiry...Am I right to
 :believe there were a number of Tons of Tones releases?
 :The track I'm looking for in particular
 :is Shehezerade -Reprise Does anyone know which
 :release this features on?
 :
 :
 :Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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 : Yep, the peacefrog release had sonar 123 on it,
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RE: (313) production and mastering

2003-02-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Protools 6 runs fine on OSX and so does Logic 5.x, Cubase SX, Reason 2.0
etc. we just have to wait for people like Native Instruments to convert the
VST apps to Audio Units and then i am really happy :)

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 Yee haa! I'd love run a Unix based music system - there's a 
 great article in
 Sound on Sound this month (you've probably seen it), about 
 Linux for music.
 Somehow I think there's something inherently techno-y about 
 using Unix to do
 music!! Call it the geek quotient...;-)
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: House of Suki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:48 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) production and mastering
 
 
  The protools that comes with the digi001 (not the free one) 
 supports XP
 (and
  better yet, digi released WDM drivers so you can use any 
 windows prog with
  the hardware) and PT 6 will also run on XP.  I am not a big fan of
 protools
  since the midi support  still seems a little awkward 
 (compared to logic or
  cubase anyway) but I cannot really talk smack about their 
 hardware which
 is
  the best by a long shot. However, I think in a couple years 
 the idea of
  using protools as a Techno production platform will not 
 even come into
  play since PCs are outpacing Macs both in price and 
 performance and the
  improvements in affordable sound interfaces will soon make the $50k,
  $300/hour studio obsolete for dance music producers.  Once 
 Windows is
 taken
  out of the picture and companies get a little initiative 
 (how about a
 custom
  Linux distro for Cubase ala final scratch?) we will see the 
 true advent of
  the home studio.
 
  -raph
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:30 AM
  To: 313
  Subject: Re: (313) production and mastering
 
 
  spw wrote on Thu, 6 Feb 2003 about following:
 
   No offence, but it sounds like you have never used Pro Tools.
   There is the free version at digidesign's web site if you 
 want to become
   more familiarized with the software. http://www.digidesign.com/
 
  seems that it still is win98/me only on windows platform, 
 and i'm sure
  pretty much nobody uses win98/me anymore.
 
  yes, i've tried it in win2k + xp, and it doesn't work. i don't
  actually need it for anything, but i would have wanted to try.
 
  sakke
  --
   - * remixes out now * -
  http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
 
 
 
 

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RE: (313) Joe Louis - Netherlands EP (Basement 282)

2003-02-05 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
He released a couple of records on Relief in the 90's most of them where in
Relief janking style techno but there is an EP called 'Back To The
Beginning' which is a beautifull EP, a bit like the one you described below
(i think, have not heard the Netherlands EP). Sounds like a mix between
Rhythm is Rhythm and Mr. Fingers

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 I've had this record for years now, and it occurred to me to 
 ask if anyone
 here had it, or had heard it? It's an amazing Detroit-style 
 techno record,
 but it's on this London label, and it seems to be from Joe Louis from
 Chicago (it says on the label ''Licensed from Target 
 Records''). I just
 thought he was more well-known for his Relief releases, or 
 music in that
 style - does anyone know if he's done stuff that's as good as 
 this EP? Or in
 the same kind of style?
 
 Thanks,
 Andrew
 

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RE: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)

2003-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
 a good dj can 
 mix a Paul
 Okenfold record or some pop dance record with an underground 
 techno record
 and make it sound cool.

No he can't :)


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RE: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)

2003-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Why would somebody want do that in the first place? ie mix a 
 crap record
 with a good record.
 I prefer to hear a good DJ mix a good record with another 
 good record and
 make them sound even better.
 Surely that's the whole point of mixing?

Agreed, not even Rolando could get away with playing Final Frontier, then
mixing in Hi-Tech Jazz end following that with the brilliant No Limits from
2 Unlimited

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  a good dj can 
  mix a Paul
  Okenfold record or some pop dance record with an underground 
  techno record
  and make it sound cool.
 
 No he can't :)
 
 
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RE: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)

2003-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
This really funny, i have never heard of a DJ who wants to mix sh*t records
just because of the challenge! If you mean to play something else then just
one style okay, i like that a lot but not a dj who plays a sh*t track

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 What's the challenge in mixing only good records?
 Mix anything that works, if you can be clever and mix a cheesy
 trance track with a techno track why not do it just to throw people
 off?
 
 
 on 2/4/03 7:45 AM, Robert Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why would somebody want do that in the first place? ie mix 
 a crap record
  with a good record.
  I prefer to hear a good DJ mix a good record with another 
 good record and
  make them sound even better.
  Surely that's the whole point of mixing?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:44 PM
  To: 'spw'; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)
  
  
  a good dj can 
  mix a Paul
  Okenfold record or some pop dance record with an underground
  techno record
  and make it sound cool.
  
  No he can't :)
 

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RE: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)

2003-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Your taking a piss out of us, right?

I really did mu best not to respond to this but i am really wondering of you
have ever been into a club on planet earth at all? 

also i am really depressed now because 2 of the 3 records mentioned are
dutch :)


kj

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: dinsdag 4 februari 2003 14:49
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)
 
 
 I always thought it would be cool to throw in something like 2
 Unlimited or James Brown Is Dead with that Knights Of The
 Jaguar Sony rip off like in middle of a deep techno set just to watch
 peoples reaction.
 music is only sound waves i think it's funny how people get 
 angry when they
 hear something that is considered out of style.
 If you can mix 2 Unlimited or that Cher dance tune with UR and
 it's sounds kind of interesting why not do it?
 
 on 2/4/03 7:56 AM, Jongsma, K.J. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Agreed, not even Rolando could get away with playing Final 
 Frontier, then
  mixing in Hi-Tech Jazz end following that with the 
 brilliant No Limits from
  2 Unlimited
 

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RE: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)

2003-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 I always thought it would be cool to throw in something like 2
 Unlimited or James Brown Is Dead with that Knights Of The
 Jaguar Sony rip off like in middle of a deep techno set just to watch
 peoples reaction.
 music is only sound waves

Music is only soundwaves? Well that can not be true, if that is true then me
farting would be music??? Hmm i feel a new hit record coming up :)


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RE: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)

2003-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 well techno isn't known for having a sense of humour sadly.

crap... If you want humor go to a comedy club :)

Just tell me one type of music that has humor, keeping in mind that most
techno records don't have lyrics...

 
 I think this is very true!
 
 I think this is the reason a lot of techno purists can't 
 accept records
 such as 'Zombie Nation'

That has nothing to do with humor, that is just a question of taste


 Personally, I thought it was alright (Not a classic mind, but 
 acceptable.)

I rather hear that then some new euro-trance record for sure :)

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RE: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'

2003-02-03 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Personal favorite Mills track, miles ahead off the rest:

- Gammaplayer on the Humana EP!!! (as millsart)


Good runner up's:
- Waveform Transmission vol 1.
- DJ Hell Allerseelen (Jeff Mills Mix)
- Every Dog has his day vol. 1
- At first sight
- X-102

Just wondering but wasn't Mills also behind World Power Alliance reocrds on
UR? Belgian Resistance and Seawolf are serious to!

 Would any 313ers care to suggest any Mills trax for this 
 list? (see below)
 Please send to me  I'll forward them on to the guy.
 
 TOM
 
  Hi Tom, hope you are well.
 
  I was just hoping that I could pick your brains regarding 
 Jeff Mills, as
 he is the subject for Crate Diggin' in the March magazine. I need to
 spotlight his ten biggest/most collectable tracks and 
 remixes, so am asking
 people to let me know which tracks they think should 
 definitely be included.
 I also need to recommend books etc where fans  collectors 
 can find out
 more, so if you can think of any good suggestions, they would be much
 appreciated too.
 
  Cheers for your assistance,
 
  Many thanks and kind regards,
 
 
  Darren.
 
 
 
 

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RE: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'

2003-02-03 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Are they very collectable though? You see pretty much all of the Axis
 back catalogue around in quite a few shops.

Axis 800, Time Machine on vinyl is pretty collectable! 

Oh yeah 'If' is essential to, love that cat vocal on that track!!!

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RE: (313) DJ Skull - Stomping Grounds

2003-01-31 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Is that the one with Graveyard Orchestra on it? love that track!

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: vrijdag 31 januari 2003 4:35
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: Re: (313) DJ Skull - Stomping Grounds
 
 
 Sorry, extreme lameness took over - DJAX-UP-186
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:31 AM
 Subject: (313) DJ Skull - Stomping Grounds
 
 
  Can anyone tell me which vinyl release this track appeared 
 on? As far as I
  can see, it's only on the Dj Hell X-Mix 5 ('Wildstyle') - 
 any help is much
  appreciated.
 
 
 http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvlt
RecMed?Recorde
 dMediaID=19551




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RE: (313) Suburban Knight

2003-01-31 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 What's the use of making an album that contains 10 year old 
 music? Why not
 produce a few tracks more and make an album that is entirely 
 based on new
 material?

Maybe because these tracks are timless and deserve to be put on a full
length album? Personally i  always thought that Midnite Sunshine never got
the exposure i deserved, that track is definitely one of his best pieces of
music. It sounds like it is mastered from an old cassette tape btw. :)

kj


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: donderdag 30 januari 2003 17:50
 To: 313 mailing list
 Subject: (313) Suburban Knight
 
 
 Just found out that his debut album (!) will be released 
 April 14th. It
 includes 'The Art Of Stalking', 'Nocturbulous Behaviour'  'Midnite
 Sunshine' (from the Dark Energy doublepack), plus new material.
 
 That's all I know.
 
 TOM
 

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RE: (313) more demf stuff...

2003-01-28 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


 All this stuff from Carol Marvin really boils down to a demand to pay 
 her off so she'll go away.  The Hearns thing is particularly 
 cynical.  
 It's all about lawyers from now on, so if I were Derrick May and Carl 
 Craig I'd say, see you in court -- if you dare.
 
 And if the new festival can't use the DEMF name, I'm sure another
 can be found, and maybe not such a bad idea anyway since it would
 allow rebuilding the brand in a direction more true to the real
 meaning and history of electronic music in Detroit.

Metrotimes also has an article about this:
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518 

A spokesman of Kilpatrick says:

If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit
International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation.

and the DEMF is just a name indeed. I wondered how we would think of this if
PCM got the festival and Derrick May said he was doing a 3 day party to
because he thinks he must do the festival.. just a thought


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RE: (313) Amsterdam/313 related info needed

2003-01-27 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Could that be Club Paradiso? I have a Bad Brains live album recorded 
 there. Pretty amazing gig by the sound of it, though it has been a 
 few years since I listened to it (ahem).

Paradiso is great, if you don't mind some quality house, deep house, broken
beats etc. You have to check if there is a Club Paradiso going on that night
(most of them are on Friday). The Rushhour people are some of the guys who
throw some great parties there. 2002 brought some great DJ's to paradiso,
Kerri Chandler, Theo Parrish, Moodymann, Brett Dancer, Larry Heard, Lil
Louis, Recloose etc... 

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RE: (313) NWAQ album on Peacefrog

2003-01-24 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
The Planet E. NWAQ will be a re-relase from the delsin record and the
peacefrog one will be a new record? 

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 next week is the second Newworldaquarium 12 coming on 
 Peacefrog, called 
 Heavy Metal - together with the Newworldaquarium 12 release 
 on Planet E a 
 week later

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RE: (313) booty track id please

2003-01-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
If it is a banging track with loud snares and a vocal do you want some
bass? Do you want some bass in your mtf face then it is probably DJ Rush
with 'Bass in your face', dunno the name of the label.

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 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Slow_me [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 theres this booty house anthem that goes like this:
 bass in your face,anyone knows what is it?
 thanx in advance,
 shlomi

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RE: (313) booty track id please

2003-01-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 I like the DJ Funk version whichgoes summit like 'feel my m/f 
 d1ck in your
 mouth'  :)

Great fun talking about booty and the reading this in the disclaimer: 


 This 
 communication is for information purposes only and should not 
 be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an 
 offer


:))

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RE: (313) Track ID (Should be easy for you guys gals!)

2003-01-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Yeah that is really easy,

Lil Louis - Black Out! 


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 Can anyone ID the following vocal? I'm pretty sure it's easy, 
 and I probably
 should know, but anyway, it goes a little something like this:
 
 The lights in the universe are all on. And at the flick of 
 God's switch, all
 the lights in the world are out. Yeah, you can run, but you 
 can't hide.
 Cause if we don't change quick, it's coming, a world eclipse 
 - BLACKOUT.
 
 thanks
 
 nath
 

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RE: (313) plink plonk - Ksomic Messenger

2003-01-21 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


 I never cared much for the Shamen either.

I always liked Boss Drum from The Shamen a lot. I think i prefer The Shamen
above most of the stuff Mr. C. produced alone. Oh and Richie Hatwin's the
South of Detroit Instrumental mix of Ebeneezer Goode... yummie! banging
acid, not really a remix at all, more like a new track but it is great
anyway!


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RE: FW: (313) Robert Hood imitations?

2003-01-16 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Yes they are the same people. They do a great liveset btw. If you have a
change to check them out, please do so. I saw them play live a few times
here in holland, the things they do live as the memory foundation is really,
really good!

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 i think it´s hi-lo from vienna, central fame...
 
 (samu)
 
 
  I shd add tht it's on M-Plant.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:36 AM
  To: Mark S. Krüx; henrique casanova; 313
  Subject: RE: (313) Robert Hood imitations?
  
  
  The Memory Foundation - MP303, I think 1995. I really know 
 very little abt
  it. Could even be Hood, but I do know it has a strong Austria link.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:52 AM
  To: henrique casanova; 313
  Subject: Re: (313) Robert Hood imitations?
  
  
  Henrique is right...
  
  There is also his Téchnè LP on Cocoon.
  
  Dunno how I missed that one.
  
  Laters,
  
  m*
  - Original Message -
  From: henrique casanova [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:19 PM
  Subject: Re: (313) Robert Hood imitations?
  
  
   hi mark!
man he have a vinyl LP on Cocoom Recordings. i think it is the
  same jacek
  
take care
  
   henrique
   - Original Message -
   From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
   Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:57 AM
   Subject: Re: (313) Robert Hood imitations?
  
  
Here's a very rough Discography...
   
Vinyl:
Jacek Sienkiewicz - Slope Ep. - Klang [Klang 64]  2002
   
Jacek Sienkiewicz - The Truth EP - Recognition - [REP 
 004]  2001
   
Jacek Sienkiewicz - Pocket Control EP - Trapez [Trapez 
 04]  2001
   
Jacek Sienkiewicz - The Real Link - Recognition [REP 005]  2001
   
Jacek Sienkiewicz - Item - De:Bug Hartwaren [DBHW 002]  2000
   
Jacek Sienkiewicz - Recognition EP - Recognition [REP 
 001]  2000
   
Jacek Sienkiewicz - Directions - Recognition [REP 002]  2000
   
Jacek Sienkiewicz - Meaning - Recognition [REP 003]  2000
   
Remixes appear on:
Sven Vath Strahlemnann - Und Sohne RMX - Virgin 
 [7242389781465]  2001
   
T. Raumschmiere - Ravemusick - WMF Rec [WMF 005]  2001
   
CD:
Jacek Sienkiewicz - Recognition - Recognition [R-CD 001]  2001
   
Laters,
   
m*
   
- Original Message -
From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Robert Hood imitations?
   
   
 on 1/15/03 3:48 PM, Mark S. Krüx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  NP - Jacek Sienkiewicz - The Slope EP - Klang

 So he has one on Klang, I did not know that.

 Also a record I passed on recently but may be of 313 
 interest:

 Christopher Benjamin Buddha Plink Plonk PLK 047

 ART Balil type strings over loopy tribal techno percussion.


 =
 Adonis vrs. Panansonic (Vakio Blast First)

 http://pages.prodigy.net/stevepwats/adonis-panasonic.mp3
   
   
  
  
  
 
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(313) Scan 7 interview online @ technotourist.org

2003-01-16 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I wanted to let you know that we an interview with Scan 7 online at our
website. You can read it directly here:

http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq
=viewarticleartid=24

Or go to out website at http://technotourist.org and click on 'interviews'
on the left site and in the next screen select 'Scan 7'.

Enjoy!


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RE: (313) UR Catalog numbers

2003-01-15 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
There has never been any logic in the UR cataolog numbers... they would make
big leaps from for example releasing 43, then 50, then doing 45,46, 47 etc.
it keeps the fun in record hunting :)

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 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Martin Aedla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: woensdag 15 januari 2003 14:45
 Aan: '313@hyperreal.org'
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) UR Catalog numbers
 
 
 you forgot UR018 M.I.A. (3 records under the same catalog 
 #!!!) and UR021
 Interstellar fugitives sampler
 
 it seems they stopped at 50th release and started to 
 duplicate catalog # and
 release really big numbers like 2000 and 3000
 
 martin
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:55 PM
  To: '313@hyperreal.org'
  Subject: (313) UR Catalog numbers
  
  
  hi all,
  
  I was just checking the submerge site, and to my surprise 
 UR has 4 new
  records out, 2 of which are represses(?)
  
  UR-031 Dark Paradise
  UR-027 Venomous
  UR-018 Members of the house
  UR-016 Davina
  
  What's  confusing me, is that all of these 4 records are 
  released using
  catalognumber that are already in use by other records? 
  
  UR016 UR + Yolanda - Living For The Night (remix)
  UR018 UR - The Fury (1991)
  UR027 Scan 7 - Black Moon Rising
  UR031 Scan 7 - Undetectable 
  
  So what's the deal? Does this mean that these old titles are 
  deleted now? Is
  UR afraid to go beyond the 100 releases marker, and is that 
  the reason they
  are re-using catalog numbers?
  
  Confused,
  
  W
  
 

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RE: (313) Re: Maestro and 313 doco/dvd's..

2003-01-15 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
A friend of mine is working on a VJ-tool that can be hooked up to a MIDI
enviroment. I saw a rough working version of it, it can be sync-ed with MIDI
Clock pulse and/or with other MIDI data like noe-on/off or any other kind of
MIDI message. For now it is Mac only...

I saw a rough working version and it i thought it was pretty impressive but
it still needed some work.

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 I second that on the deep chord video, especially the one
 of the people mover. Does anyone know if they did any midi
 synchronization to it? Seemed to have been bliping and hopping
 to the music. If not them, has anyone done this?
 
 -Pete
 

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RE: (313) New Daniel Bell mix cd

2003-01-15 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
That's because he is living in Berlin, well he used to dunno if he moved
back really

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 Van: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: woensdag 15 januari 2003 16:32
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) New Daniel Bell mix cd 
 
 
 
  Everytime he flies he loses control!
 
 :)
 
 from http://home.earthlink.net/~seventhcity/news.html
 
 it seems he's played in germany, france and norway so he can't be that
 afraid of flying
 
 robin...
 

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RE: (313) final scratch on mac!

2003-01-13 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 About FS and Traktor...John Tejada told me today that now 
 Tracktor has 
 merged with final scratch and are combining the two in a new 
 concept to be 
 presented this week at Namm (L.A)
 I think It will be the next big thing !
 ...I suppose it will work on Mac too...
 ...but don't wait for me to sold my vinyls ;-) !

Even better it will run on OSX :) John Tejada is doing a liveset for NI
during the NAMM using Traktor.:

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=namm03_us


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RE: (313) Exploring Drum and Bass

2003-01-13 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I lost track on Drum  Bass years ago but there was an era that it produced
some amazing records. I forgot most of the titles but i loved almost all the
PFM stuff, Certificate 18, Source Direct did some really beautiful things as
well! The first Logical Progression from LTJ Bukem is an essential DB
compilation IMHO. 

Nowadays most of it is the same as loop techno for me... getting on my
nerves :)


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   i still pop on paralell universe, [4hero]  from time to 
 time.  and that
 in order to dance 6 comp on rs has some great 
 ,detroit-inspired db
 works...  check out jazz juice - deroit.
 
   peace,
   lrh
 
 -Original Message-
 From: m a t t [d] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:48 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Exploring Drum and Bass
 
 
  of, dare I say it, soulful drum n bass.
 
 I've been thinking about this a lot myself lately.  Back in 
 95 I read an
 interview with Alex Reece who said how much he was inspired 
 by UR and their
 melodies.  Last week I went back to some of my favourite d+b 
 records from
 94 -99.  While mixing some of my favourite examples of what 
 would later be
 given the kiss of death by the label 'inteligent'.  If you 
 listen to some of
 the early reece, pim, wax doctor, the d+b that was put out on 
 RS (esp the
 model 500 remixes), hidden agenda, creative source stuff etc 
 there are IMHO
 a lot of at least superficial similarities to the detroit sound -  the
 momentum of the beats, the use of strings, new sounds, eq 
 levels in the
 production, use of dissonance, the funk in the spaces between 
 the beats.
 Mixing them to maximise the beat and bass switches and 
 absolutely minimise
 breakdowns I find it quite close in feeling and emotion to 
 the feeling and
 emotion of dancing to a long deep soulful techno mix - with a 
 big smile on
 my face :)
 
 It was these tunes that started making me want to find out 
 more about this
 detroit sound I was hearing about.
 
 The mix I refer to isn't 100% perfect, but if anyone is 
 interested I can
 host it for others to hear what I'm talking about.
 
 Maybe it's just nostalgia (already!) :))  -- has anyone else 
 experienced or
 thought about something similar along these themes?
 
 Matt
 -
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RE: (313) don't frighten the horses...

2003-01-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
looks like some company from Switzerland bought the domain-name after the
record expired.

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 erm, has anyone been to the sound signature website recently?
 
 http://www.soundsignature.net
 
 I was kind of expecting theo parrish related info
 
 what's that all about?
 
 Dan
 

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RE: (313) recomended latin/salsa techno

2003-01-08 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
The Goodmen - Give it up :)

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: woensdag 8 januari 2003 9:11
 Aan: Slow_me; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) recomended latin/salsa techno
 
 
 *Well, you could start with Casa - Purpose Maker - AX-011. 
 But really a lot
 of Mills material around that time had a Latin feel. For less stylized
 Latin-like techno, check out the Sonido Denso label of Spain 
 - So Dens -
 which doesn't appear to have its own website.
 
 Instead go to:
 http://www.loudmusic.dk/records_labels.asp?function=letterletter=s
 
 and select So Dens.
 
 *People say Jamie Anderson's releases are quite Latin-inged - 
 if you know
 Latin music at all, you'd be ambivalent about that at least. 
 He has an LP:
 'Blue Music' (NRK)
 
 Also the 'Abstract Latinism' series of 12s (Artform)
 
 Don't forget 'Techno Por Favor' - Infiniti on the 'Techno 2': The Next
 Generation, (10 Records).
 
 On the whole however, I feel it's too self-restricting to 
 limit oneself to a
 phrase like 'Latin/Salsa techno'. Nowadays, the whole range 
 of 'Latin' be it
 house, or even traditional Salsa styles, will have elements 
 of techno within
 them which weren't there maybe even 5 years ago. But are now, 
 because each
 has learned from the other.
 
 Explore.
 
 k
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: Slow_me [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: (313) recomended latin/salsa techno
 
 
 hi everyone,
 i'm looking for some good latin/salsa techno records.
 thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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(313) More techno in Holland

2003-01-07 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
A little bit early but:

8 March, 013 Tilburg:
Robert Hood (M.Plant detroit) + live: Scan 7 (U.R. Detroit) + Steve Rachmad
+ Noes 

yes please...




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RE: (313) What! Nothing about Lost? (rant)

2003-01-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

No pun intented... yeah right...

it is always euhm.. 'interesting' to read your e-mails mr. Watts, please
don't leave this list


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 The nostalgia trend is getting old. (no pun intended)
 Mojo, Larry Levan, Ron Hardy, italo-disco, deephousepage, ect.. ect..
 All you people that used to be into minimal techno, landstrum 
 that type of
 stuff in the mid 90's and didn't grow up listening to black music and
 now you think you know everything about soul or your Mr. 
 deep house.
 
 YOU SUCK.
 
 fake trendy ass superficial people.
 
 on 1/6/03 5:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sorry to be the party pooper, but I thought that the LOST christmas
  party was a bit disappointing, certainly not unique musically. I
  recently got hold of a mix by Mills taped from his 'Wizard' radio
  show. The mix was incredible, a full on fusion of go-go, early house
  and hip hop mixed at lightning speed complete with mad scratching
  skills. I had hoped for some more of this action at LOST so I was  a
  bit disappointed by the rather pedestrian mix of funk and disco that
  didn't seem at all fresh. This might just be because I'm very
  familiar with that music and am quite jaded towards it, but I wasn't
  feeling it that night. The fact that Mills and Slater 
 (rather than an
  unknown DJ in practically any semi-trendy bar you might visit on a
  weekday evening in London these days) were putting the needle on the
  records wasn't enough. I also think that BT was a poor venue - the
  long thin shape of the upstairs room is a natural obastacle to
  generating a good vibe. Where was Steve Stasis?
  
  Nonetheless, nice one to LOST for breaking away from the huge party
  route and doing  something a bit different, however, for small
  parties, SLICES still wins hands down.
  
  Dan
  
  Quit surprised that nobody of the London area 313-ers did not post
  anything about the last Lost party... I thought it was an amazing
  and unique party. How often can you hear in a 300 people 
 venue Steve
  Bicknell, Luke Slater and Jeff Mills play back to back (kinda) with
  just soul, funk, disco and 80's house music? The most modern record
  that Jeff Mills dropped was Move Your Body from Marshal Jefferson!
  The rest of his records where stuff like Loose Joints, Dan Hartman,
  O'Jays, Sylvester JD's etc. It was maybe a little bit to full to
  dance nicely (well there was not really a dancefloor anyway) but
  still i thought it was one of the best parties i have been to in a
  long while
  
  
  ... and it is a bit of old news but the Bleep43 New years eve party
  was brilliant, never had so much fun on NY eve! Bleep43 for
  president! :) and more boring news, Tristan, you rock!
  
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(313) Namowan in Holland

2003-01-06 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
For dutch people and german people close to Nijmegen:

Namowan (Red Planet) is scheduled to play in Doornroosje on the 25th of Jan,
together with Spaze Djz... (?) the week before that Surggeon will drop
records Roornroosje, see you there :)

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RE: (313) Darryl Wynn

2002-12-20 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

  Wish we'd recorded it! Maybe you could try Groovetech? Did 
 he play at the
  DEMF?
 
 
 Yep. His set from the first year is archived on Groovetech.

His set at the KMS afterparty durin this years DEMF was prety amazing to!
His Inner City mix is pretty essential as well

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RE: (313) Red Planet 11

2002-12-18 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


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 I am anxious to learn what this one sounds like... Any reviews?

Extremely funky dancefloor material, not so deep as Voice of the Grandmother
but more Stardancer like. You can't go wrong with Red Planet records anyway!
Oh the new Dark Energy is great to!


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RE: (313) Red Planet 11

2002-12-18 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Its good, though not the best Red Planet and pretty much 
 exactly what you'd expect from them (though this isn't a bad 
 thing particularly), but my money's on the new Dark Energy 
 (Aurora is superb) and the new Vintage Future which is a 
 slice of superbly bugged out electro. 'The Charmer' is a wicked track!

I agree with you on the new Dark Energy, Aurora is just amazing. I am not
sure but isn't Dark Energy James Pennington? The B-Side of Aurora is a
re-release of that X2 cut from UR50, i always thought this was James. 

The new Vintage Future was a bit dissapointing for me, i really loved his
previous tracks and thought that this one was a bit weak and not that
strong.

kj

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