Re: (313) OT: A H mixers [was Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine]
I personally don't have a problem with the AH having gain controls on the back. If one record is quieter than another all you have to do is adjust the gains whilst your cueing up which takes a couple of seconds. The LED 'channel' lights give you an accurate enough idea of when the volumes on both records match. Chris. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/11/20 Thu PM 06:04:02 GMT To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT: A H mixers [was Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine] I've only used an Xone 32 twice, but I hate having the gains back there. I prefer to have the main faders at max to allow for easier cuts, so I generally cue a track at one volume and then back off a notch or so before dropping it in, then gradually bring it up to match the other track. Reaching around the back of the mixer to do this is a pain in the ass in my opinion. Other than that, I think the layout is great and the LFO is pretty fun once you muck about with it for a bit. Never used one of the higher-end AH mixers, but I'd love to give them a shot -- unfortunately they're just a little price-prohibitive in my book. - Original Message - From: Gary Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:22 AM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine All down to space on the front panel, you can set the gain while you're cueing up and shouldn't need to tweak it, whereas the EQs, sends, filter etc. all need to be closer to hand while in the mix. Before I got a Xone 32 I thought it was a stupid place to have the gains, but after a week or so of getting used to it I've never given it another thought. It's just a great sounding well built piece of kit. Gary - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine Why are the gains on the back tho 20/11/03 10:29 AM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've ever used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it doesn't sound harsh- they have anew mixer out new month with a big launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its like once I've seen it. cheers Jason Brunton On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/ 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited
RE: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've ever used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it doesn't sound harsh- they have anew mixer out new month with a big launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its like once I've seen it. cheers Jason Brunton On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/ 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
Why are the gains on the back tho 20/11/03 10:29 AM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've ever used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it doesn't sound harsh- they have anew mixer out new month with a big launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its like once I've seen it. cheers Jason Brunton On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/ 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
They aren't on the Xone 62 and 64. Only on the Xone 32, afaik. -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2003 10:28 To: Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine Why are the gains on the back tho 20/11/03 10:29 AM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've ever used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it doesn't sound harsh- they have anew mixer out new month with a big launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its like once I've seen it. cheers Jason Brunton On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/ 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
All down to space on the front panel, you can set the gain while you're cueing up and shouldn't need to tweak it, whereas the EQs, sends, filter etc. all need to be closer to hand while in the mix. Before I got a Xone 32 I thought it was a stupid place to have the gains, but after a week or so of getting used to it I've never given it another thought. It's just a great sounding well built piece of kit. Gary - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine Why are the gains on the back tho 20/11/03 10:29 AM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've ever used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it doesn't sound harsh- they have anew mixer out new month with a big launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its like once I've seen it. cheers Jason Brunton On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/ 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
They aren't on the x:one 02- on the 32 they are indeed a bit of a pain in the arse to get to but its suprising how quickly you get used to it. Jason On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Martin wrote: Why are the gains on the back tho 20/11/03 10:29 AM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've ever used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it doesn't sound harsh- they have anew mixer out new month with a big launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its like once I've seen it. cheers Jason Brunton On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/ 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks * ** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. * **
(313) OT: A H mixers [was Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine]
I've only used an Xone 32 twice, but I hate having the gains back there. I prefer to have the main faders at max to allow for easier cuts, so I generally cue a track at one volume and then back off a notch or so before dropping it in, then gradually bring it up to match the other track. Reaching around the back of the mixer to do this is a pain in the ass in my opinion. Other than that, I think the layout is great and the LFO is pretty fun once you muck about with it for a bit. Never used one of the higher-end AH mixers, but I'd love to give them a shot -- unfortunately they're just a little price-prohibitive in my book. - Original Message - From: Gary Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:22 AM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine All down to space on the front panel, you can set the gain while you're cueing up and shouldn't need to tweak it, whereas the EQs, sends, filter etc. all need to be closer to hand while in the mix. Before I got a Xone 32 I thought it was a stupid place to have the gains, but after a week or so of getting used to it I've never given it another thought. It's just a great sounding well built piece of kit. Gary - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine Why are the gains on the back tho 20/11/03 10:29 AM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've ever used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it doesn't sound harsh- they have anew mixer out new month with a big launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its like once I've seen it. cheers Jason Brunton On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/ 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
does AH have a web site showing all their mixers. my freind has one, and its junk. it must be one of the low end mixers. burns From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Lester Kenyatta Spence' [EMAIL PROTECTED], m a t t [d] [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:05:44 - The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** _ Is there a gadget-lover on your gift list? MSN Shopping has lined up some good bets! http://shopping.msn.com
Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
- Original Message - From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: RE: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine does AH have a web site showing all their mixers. my freind has one, and its junk. it must be one of the low end mixers. Easy Ryan! They have never made a junk mixer. I think I've used them all (well, I've touched the V:6, even if I haven't used it ;), including the 16 channel mixing desk. You can see them all here: http://www.allen-heath.com/xone_series.asp The Xone:02 is certainly a bit light on features, and it is their cheapest model, but I'd take it over any other mixer in its price range in a heartbeat. I can see that the gains on the back would be annoying at first, but I love them there now that I'm used to it. As Gary said, it = more panel space, and frankly, I rarely use the gains once I get the levels set in cue, other than the minor adjustment I may need to make to correct my assumption of where it should be. If I do need to use them, I don't find it's hard to adjust them back there. One thing that helps a ton with this is that the LED level meters are really accurate - so you can usually get a pretty good idea of where it should be before you throw it in. But really, I actually prefer them there now. Can't explain that but I do. Also, as someone said, the 4 channel EQ on the higher-end mixers is superb. I think it was Christian that pointed out it's right at 250 KHz, a long time ago, and you can really tell when you drop it out. It's very isolated on just the bass. Scotto - I dunno why you had so much trouble jackin' about with it. I think it works great, and you should see Ryan Blackman give that muv a workout! Certainly doesn't inhibit him any. Didn't we just have this debate last month? Ultimately, you aren't gonna convince anyone. Everyone has their preference. But us AH users know we're right and the rest of you are missing out. ;) For the record, I've used the Pioneers almost as much as the AH, and I do like them both - but the AH is a much better sounding and feeling beast IMO. Plus it's built like a f*cking tank. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:02:00 -, Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Scotto - I dunno why you had so much trouble jackin' about with it. I think it works great, and you should see Ryan Blackman give that muv a workout! Certainly doesn't inhibit him any. well i'm used to a very simple mixer, i own a stanton sk-2f. 2 channel, 3 band 3 eq, adjustable volume curve, adjustable cross fader curve, kill switches. a scratch mixer, even though i dont scratch. so when i jump on the beast and have no monitors, playing in a concrete box and have never used the mixer before. yea it was hell. it is the only time i have used said mixer. maybe if i was able to use it before hand a couple of times, because it is hard to use a new mixer the first time you really dont know what to expect, like how the curves are set, how the eq's cut (AH has great eq's), how much the trim boosts, etc. but this went beyond that to where i felt like a total doofus. it distracted me so much it made it had to concentrate, plus the no monitor. Didn't we just have this debate last month? Ultimately, you aren't gonna convince anyone. Everyone has their preference. But us AH users know we're right and the rest of you are missing out. ;) For the record, I've used the Pioneers almost as much as the AH, and I do like them both - but the AH is a much better sounding and feeling beast IMO. Plus it's built like a f*cking tank. not a big fan of pioneer mixers, the sound, sounds like it is struggling to get out of the mixer. I swear my stanton has a better sound quality and is a quarter of the price. but i can see where you are comig from with the AH. i just would not buy the 32 i can not forgive the desinger, what the hell was that person thinking? we will make the only mixer where its a pain in the ass to get at the trim knobs and if it is mounted and the back is closed off you can not even get at them.
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-- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] frankly, I rarely use the gains once I get the levels set in cue, other than the minor adjustment I may need to make to correct my assumption of where it should be. If I do need to use them, I don't find it's hard to adjust them back there. i havent played on one of these mixers to the best of my knowledge, but i did play on one of the allen and heaths at this one spot in baltimore, and i found something about to be counterintuitive. and for gains, you should try playing more old records from back in the day. the difference in pressing levels is huge, i tweak gains almost every mix. i like things to be simple on a mixer. ive always hated vestax because they put the pan knob where the treble should be. argh. tom andythepooh.com
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It seems that Allen Heath could completely redeem the XOne:32 with one simple move: switch the position of the gain controls with the aux send knobs at the top of the front panel. How often does one need to adjust the level of the send anyway? Once per set, at most, and that's only if you're using external effects. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:02:00 -, Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Scotto - I dunno why you had so much trouble jackin' about with it. I think it works great, and you should see Ryan Blackman give that muv a workout! Certainly doesn't inhibit him any. well i'm used to a very simple mixer, i own a stanton sk-2f. 2 channel, 3 band 3 eq, adjustable volume curve, adjustable cross fader curve, kill switches. a scratch mixer, even though i dont scratch. so when i jump on the beast and have no monitors, playing in a concrete box and have never used the mixer before. yea it was hell. it is the only time i have used said mixer. maybe if i was able to use it before hand a couple of times, because it is hard to use a new mixer the first time you really dont know what to expect, like how the curves are set, how the eq's cut (AH has great eq's), how much the trim boosts, etc. but this went beyond that to where i felt like a total doofus. it distracted me so much it made it had to concentrate, plus the no monitor. Didn't we just have this debate last month? Ultimately, you aren't gonna convince anyone. Everyone has their preference. But us AH users know we're right and the rest of you are missing out. ;) For the record, I've used the Pioneers almost as much as the AH, and I do like them both - but the AH is a much better sounding and feeling beast IMO. Plus it's built like a f*cking tank. not a big fan of pioneer mixers, the sound, sounds like it is struggling to get out of the mixer. I swear my stanton has a better sound quality and is a quarter of the price. but i can see where you are comig from with the AH. i just would not buy the 32 i can not forgive the desinger, what the hell was that person thinking? we will make the only mixer where its a pain in the ass to get at the trim knobs and if it is mounted and the back is closed off you can not even get at them.
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:02:00 -, Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Scotto - I dunno why you had so much trouble jackin' about with it. I think it works great, and you should see Ryan Blackman give that muv a workout! Certainly doesn't inhibit him any. well i'm used to a very simple mixer, i own a stanton sk-2f. 2 channel, 3 band 3 eq, adjustable volume curve, adjustable cross fader curve, kill switches. a scratch mixer, even though i dont scratch. so when i jump on the beast and have no monitors, playing in a concrete box and have never used the mixer before. yea it was hell. I hear ya. It can be really confounding. Like when I played on Guy's mixer @ Bootytronics and the crossfader was so loose it would slide all the way across the mixer if you breathed too heavy (literally) - and we couldn't figure out how to turn it off. ;) like how the curves are set, how the eq's cut (AH has great eq's), how much the trim boosts, etc. Gotcha. The AH 32 actually has a crossfader curve knob on the front panel, along with an on/off button and a reverse button. Very adjustable to your preference - just takes some getting used to - as you say. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] i havent played on one of these mixers to the best of my knowledge, but i did play on one of the allen and heaths at this one spot in baltimore, and i found something about to be counterintuitive. I think it is at first - because it *is* designed differently. and for gains, you should try playing more old records from back in the day. the difference in pressing levels is huge, i tweak gains almost every mix. Yeah. I know whatcha mean. I do play at least a few quieter pressings in every set, and tweak the gains on pretty much every mix even if it's all new stuff - just not usually while I'm in the mix, and when I do it isn't a problem. But I still maintain that after a few tries, this is just as easy to use, if not preferable. I think the fact that not a single AH owner has had a bad thing to say about one (except maybe the gains) speaks volumes [ooh - sorry about that. Couldn't resist]. I can't think of another brand that is true of. It's an odd adjustment at first. I must confess I didn't *really* start to love them until I owned one, despite using them about 20 times before buying one. I got a good deal on mine, and the reliability/sound quality was the decisive factor for me at the time - but within a week or two of owning it I really got attached to its functionality. They also have 1st rate service from what I hear. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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can we get back on topic? 30 emails about mixers is almost certainly not the reason most of us sub to this list. thx - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine -- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] frankly, I rarely use the gains once I get the levels set in cue, other than the minor adjustment I may need to make to correct my assumption of where it should be. If I do need to use them, I don't find it's hard to adjust them back there. i havent played on one of these mixers to the best of my knowledge, but i did play on one of the allen and heaths at this one spot in baltimore, and i found something about to be counterintuitive. and for gains, you should try playing more old records from back in the day. the difference in pressing levels is huge, i tweak gains almost every mix. i like things to be simple on a mixer. ive always hated vestax because they put the pan knob where the treble should be. argh. tom andythepooh.com
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youre right- i subscribe to hear the goings on of a bunch of brits every weekend. On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, /0 wrote: can we get back on topic? 30 emails about mixers is almost certainly not the reason most of us sub to this list. thx - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine -- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] frankly, I rarely use the gains once I get the levels set in cue, other than the minor adjustment I may need to make to correct my assumption of where it should be. If I do need to use them, I don't find it's hard to adjust them back there. i havent played on one of these mixers to the best of my knowledge, but i did play on one of the allen and heaths at this one spot in baltimore, and i found something about to be counterintuitive. and for gains, you should try playing more old records from back in the day. the difference in pressing levels is huge, i tweak gains almost every mix. i like things to be simple on a mixer. ive always hated vestax because they put the pan knob where the treble should be. argh. tom andythepooh.com
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yeah, let me help everyone get this back on topic... What kind of mixer does Richie Hawtin use again? Always willing to lend a hand Jeff -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine can we get back on topic? 30 emails about mixers is almost certainly not the reason most of us sub to this list. thx - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine -- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] frankly, I rarely use the gains once I get the levels set in cue, other than the minor adjustment I may need to make to correct my assumption of where it should be. If I do need to use them, I don't find it's hard to adjust them back there. i havent played on one of these mixers to the best of my knowledge, but i did play on one of the allen and heaths at this one spot in baltimore, and i found something about to be counterintuitive. and for gains, you should try playing more old records from back in the day. the difference in pressing levels is huge, i tweak gains almost every mix. i like things to be simple on a mixer. ive always hated vestax because they put the pan knob where the treble should be. argh. tom andythepooh.com
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I believe its a Hamilton Beach 6 Speed Hand Mixer if I am not mistaken. That man can whip up a mean batch of brownies aye? Also Iv'e never seen him do it, but i guess he also has a nack for pudding pie. m. Michael - Original Message - From: FC2 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: RE: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine yeah, let me help everyone get this back on topic... What kind of mixer does Richie Hawtin use again? Always willing to lend a hand Jeff -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine can we get back on topic? 30 emails about mixers is almost certainly not the reason most of us sub to this list. thx - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine -- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] frankly, I rarely use the gains once I get the levels set in cue, other than the minor adjustment I may need to make to correct my assumption of where it should be. If I do need to use them, I don't find it's hard to adjust them back there. i havent played on one of these mixers to the best of my knowledge, but i did play on one of the allen and heaths at this one spot in baltimore, and i found something about to be counterintuitive. and for gains, you should try playing more old records from back in the day. the difference in pressing levels is huge, i tweak gains almost every mix. i like things to be simple on a mixer. ive always hated vestax because they put the pan knob where the treble should be. argh. tom andythepooh.com
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funny.. i bought some Satie via the ITMS a few days ago. --- m a t t [d] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So, does anyone know what that track is he's talking about? Female author, Detroit, summer 2003...repressed on Plus 8 with remixes... Cheers, Andrew Garrett McGrath wrote: funny.. i bought some Satie via the ITMS a few days ago. --- m a t t [d] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The artists is dj minx label is called woman on wax -p -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine So, does anyone know what that track is he's talking about? Female author, Detroit, summer 2003...repressed on Plus 8 with remixes... Cheers, Andrew Garrett McGrath wrote: funny.. i bought some Satie via the ITMS a few days ago. --- m a t t [d] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top 5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks
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3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) Allen Heath make really high-quality gear. I can testify to this. I borrowed an AH mixer for immedia 2 years ago and it fell face-down onto a concrete floor from about 3 feet up. 2 faders were loose. Everything else was still fine. My Sony headphones, on the other hand, had their jack completely snapped off. bvl -- http://www.chromedecay.org || http://www.thinkbox.ca
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3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) As Bill mentioned, it's high quality stuff (and muy expensivo). But as the story states, his dad did the work on it kinda like a father-son project...and when I talked to him about it a few months ago, he waxed on and on about it worked well with his workflow/method, and was a familiar piece of equipment. I got the sense that if he were attached to some other brand he'd probably have modded that instead of the AH. He did note, however, that of all the equipment mfgrs he shared the mod schematics with, AH was the only outfit that showed any interest in discussing how to add them to their mixer line. Heath (not of Allen Heath, by the way ;)
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1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels Hi Lester, just read the interview. Richie didn't indicate that he was downloading dance music from Itunes ,just that he had downloaded a bunch of things. Could be Jazz.. Dub .. anything really. Also, I believe that Apple recently met with 100 independant labels in regards to getting them involved with itunes. I don't think it's been announced which labels were the 100 that they talked with, so it may be possible that Independent labels with dance music are available now. Don't know myself, because they don't let you download vinyl yet... :) If you are an indepenent label that wishes to be on iTunes, you'll want to follow this technote: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93191 Cheers... Dave
