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Re: Time in a c_object

2018-04-16 Thread John Baughman via 4D_Tech

Thanks. To avoid a problem in the future when going to v17, decided to store 
the time in the object already in am/pm string format instead of time. The way 
it is in v17, to me, is the way it should have been in the first place. 


John Baughman
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> On Apr 16, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> Julio:
> 
> IIRC, that change *is* mentioned in the docs for V17 beta.
> 
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> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Julio Carneiro via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
>> Miyako,
>> 
>> I can confirm that there is a difference between V16.3 and V17.0 Beta, in
>> how time is stored in an object property. In V16 it is stored in
>> milliseconds, but in V17.0 it is stored in seconds.
>> 
>> This code returns different values between versions:
>> 
>> C_TIME($hh)
>> C_OBJECT($o)
>> $hh:=Current time
>> OB SET($o;"time";$hh)
>> ALERT("$hh:"+String($hh;HH MM AM PM)+",  $o:"+String(Time(OB
>> Get($o;"time"));HH MM AM PM)+", object:"+JSON Stringify($o))
>> 
>> In V16 it shows John’s reported behaviour, while in V17 it outputs correct
>> values.
>> 
>> Is that intentional. I mean, is that something that will change in V17?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Julio Carneiro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> is that different in V16 and V17?
>>> 
>>> because in the code I posted I get the same result, but I am not
>> dividing the time value by 1000!!
>>> 
 On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:59 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <
>> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
 
 time is stored in milliseconds, not seconds.
 
 you have to
 
 $oMyObject:=New object("reporttime";?14:43:01?)
 
 $t:=String(Time($oMyObject.reporttime/1000);HH MM AM PM)
 
 ...or
 
 $t:=String(OB Get($oMyObject;"reporttime";Is time);HH MM AM PM)
 
> 2018/04/17 10:02、John Baughman via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> のメール：
> I thought this worked but It does not return the correct time...
 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Time in a c_object

2018-04-16 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech

Julio:

IIRC, that change *is* mentioned in the docs for V17 beta.

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Julio Carneiro via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Miyako,
>
> I can confirm that there is a difference between V16.3 and V17.0 Beta, in
> how time is stored in an object property. In V16 it is stored in
> milliseconds, but in V17.0 it is stored in seconds.
>
> This code returns different values between versions:
>
> C_TIME($hh)
> C_OBJECT($o)
> $hh:=Current time
> OB SET($o;"time";$hh)
> ALERT("$hh:"+String($hh;HH MM AM PM)+",  $o:"+String(Time(OB
> Get($o;"time"));HH MM AM PM)+", object:"+JSON Stringify($o))
>
> In V16 it shows John’s reported behaviour, while in V17 it outputs correct
> values.
>
> Is that intentional. I mean, is that something that will change in V17?
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Julio Carneiro  wrote:
> >
> > is that different in V16 and V17?
> >
> > because in the code I posted I get the same result, but I am not
> dividing the time value by 1000!!
> >
> >> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:59 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> time is stored in milliseconds, not seconds.
> >>
> >> you have to
> >>
> >> $oMyObject:=New object("reporttime";?14:43:01?)
> >>
> >> $t:=String(Time($oMyObject.reporttime/1000);HH MM AM PM)
> >>
> >> ...or
> >>
> >> $t:=String(OB Get($oMyObject;"reporttime";Is time);HH MM AM PM)
> >>
> >>> 2018/04/17 10:02、John Baughman via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> のメール：
> >>> I thought this worked but It does not return the correct time...
> >>
> >
> > --
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> > jjfo...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: 4D running in a Mac-VM

2018-04-16 Thread Jim Crate via 4D_Tech

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28529633/how-to-detect-if-mac-os-x-is-being-run-inside-a-virtual-machine

Here’s output from macOS in a VM:

webserver1:~ % ioreg -l | grep -e Manufacturer -e 'Vendor Name'
| |   |   |   |   |   "USB Vendor Name" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   |   |   |   "Manufacturer" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   |   |   | |   "Manufacturer" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   |   |   |   |   "Manufacturer" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   |   |   "Manufacturer" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   |   | |   "Manufacturer" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   |   |   |   "Manufacturer" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   | |   |   "USB Vendor Name" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   | |   |   "Manufacturer" = "VMware"
| |   |   |   | |   | |   "Manufacturer" = “VMware"


On this note, is anyone running 4D Server 16.3+ in a macOS VM?

Jim Crate


> On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:06 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> G'day All,
> 
> I’m thinking about checking if a 4D-Application is running in a 
> VM-Environment.
> 
> I’m wondering if someone doing such a thing would be so kind and open the 
> terminal in the VM-Mac and enter 
> 
> "system_profiler SPSoftwareDataType” (without the double-quotes) and report 
> what he/she got back for “Boot Mode” (see example):.
> 
>System Software Overview:
> 
>  System Version: OS X 10.11.6 (15G20015)
>  Kernel Version: Darwin 15.6.0
>  Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
> 
> --—>  Boot Mode: Normal   <-
> 
>  Computer Name: 
>  User Name: $
>  Secure Virtual Memory: etc. etc. etc.
> 
> The right place to look for the information in question would be also highly 
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Cheers
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Re: Time in a c_object

2018-04-16 Thread Julio Carneiro via 4D_Tech

Miyako,

I can confirm that there is a difference between V16.3 and V17.0 Beta, in how 
time is stored in an object property. In V16 it is stored in milliseconds, but 
in V17.0 it is stored in seconds.

This code returns different values between versions:

C_TIME($hh)
C_OBJECT($o)
$hh:=Current time
OB SET($o;"time";$hh)
ALERT("$hh:"+String($hh;HH MM AM PM)+",  $o:"+String(Time(OB Get($o;"time"));HH 
MM AM PM)+", object:"+JSON Stringify($o))

In V16 it shows John’s reported behaviour, while in V17 it outputs correct 
values.

Is that intentional. I mean, is that something that will change in V17?


> On Apr 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Julio Carneiro  wrote:
> 
> is that different in V16 and V17?
> 
> because in the code I posted I get the same result, but I am not dividing the 
> time value by 1000!!
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:59 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> time is stored in milliseconds, not seconds.
>> 
>> you have to
>> 
>> $oMyObject:=New object("reporttime";?14:43:01?)
>> 
>> $t:=String(Time($oMyObject.reporttime/1000);HH MM AM PM)
>> 
>> ...or
>> 
>> $t:=String(OB Get($oMyObject;"reporttime";Is time);HH MM AM PM)
>> 
>>> 2018/04/17 10:02、John Baughman via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
>>> I thought this worked but It does not return the correct time...
>> 
> 
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> jjfo...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Time in a c_object

2018-04-16 Thread Julio Carneiro via 4D_Tech

is that different in V16 and V17?

because in the code I posted I get the same result, but I am not dividing the 
time value by 1000!!

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:59 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> time is stored in milliseconds, not seconds.
> 
> you have to
> 
> $oMyObject:=New object("reporttime";?14:43:01?)
> 
> $t:=String(Time($oMyObject.reporttime/1000);HH MM AM PM)
> 
> ...or
> 
> $t:=String(OB Get($oMyObject;"reporttime";Is time);HH MM AM PM)
> 
>> 2018/04/17 10:02、John Baughman via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
>> I thought this worked but It does not return the correct time...
> 

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Re: Time in a c_object

2018-04-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech

 time is stored in milliseconds, not seconds.

you have to

$oMyObject:=New object("reporttime";?14:43:01?)

$t:=String(Time($oMyObject.reporttime/1000);HH MM AM PM)

...or

$t:=String(OB Get($oMyObject;"reporttime";Is time);HH MM AM PM)

> 2018/04/17 10:02、John Baughman via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
> I thought this worked but It does not return the correct time...




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Re: 4D running in a Mac-VM

2018-04-16 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech

Jeffrey, 

> On 17 Apr 2018, at 24:05 AEST, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> This is from a Mac VM running in VMWare ESXi:

Thanks mate.

Cheers
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Re: Time in a c_object

2018-04-16 Thread Julio Carneiro via 4D_Tech

What version of 4D?

The code below, in V17.0 Beta works fine here:

C_TIME($hh)
C_OBJECT($o)
$hh:=Current time
$o:=New object("time";$hh)
ALERT("$hh:"+String($hh;HH MM AM PM)+”,  $o.time:"+String(time($o.time);HH MM 
AM PM))

I get the exact same value.

cheers,
julio

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:02 PM, John Baughman via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> If I do...
> 
> $oMyObject:=New Object(reporttime;t14:43:01t)
> 
> How do I get the time back out as “2:43 PM”
> 
> I thought this worked but It does not return the correct time...
> 
> String(Time($oMyObject.reporttime);HH MM AM PM)
> 
> I am getting back “4:56 AM”
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John

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Time in a c_object

2018-04-16 Thread John Baughman via 4D_Tech

If I do...

$oMyObject:=New Object(reporttime;t14:43:01t)

How do I get the time back out as “2:43 PM”

I thought this worked but It does not return the correct time...

String(Time($oMyObject.reporttime);HH MM AM PM)

I am getting back “4:56 AM”

Thanks,

John




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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech

Guys,

I’ve found the cause.

Recently, I have upgraded MacOs to 10.13.4. Until then, the speed was fine.

I googled on ‘issues with MacOs 10.13.4’, and among others, I read that 
CleanMyMac 3 was likely to be the cause.
I have uninstalled it and now the issues are gone.

Damn CleanMyMac3 ! I feel foolish now having fallen in that trap!



Regards,

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Two Way Communications bvba 



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> I’ve seen the phenomenon with applications other than 4D, which means it is 
> not caused by 4D specific pref. files, but rather, files managed by the OS. 
> at least we know that they are under the user’s directory, but otherwise the 
> files could be anywhere.
> 
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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech

I’ve seen the phenomenon with applications other than 4D, which means it is not 
caused by 4D specific pref. files, but rather, files managed by the OS. at 
least we know that they are under the user’s directory, but otherwise the files 
could be anywhere.



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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech

Thanks Chuck, thanks Keisuke.

I switched to another user on my machine, but had to copy the entire database 
folder. Otherwise I got permission errors while trying to open the journal 
file???

It was effectively running much faster.

Is there a way to fix my own account?


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> Try creating another account on the same machine and see what happens. You 
> could also delete all 4D preferences and see if that changes the situation
> 
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>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
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>> 
>> that could be a broken configuration issue,
>> which could also happen with apps other than 4D.
>> 
>> try a another mac with the same setup, or if that's not an option,
>> try with a newly created account on the same computer.
>> 
>> you might find that the slowness is actually not reproducible elsewhere.
>> 
>> 2018/04/17 0:34、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
>> > >> のメール：
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>> Has anyone experienced extreme sluggishness (including beach ball) when 
>> opening form properties or object properties?
>> 
>> For every change I make in the properties, I have to wait at least 3 seconds 
>> before 4D responds, occasionally showing the beach ball.
>> 
>> Making changes takes forever this way…
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Re: windows script issue

2018-04-16 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech

OK I get it. How can I turn this into a bat file that returns a value? as it 
works from command prompt

Thanks and regards

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> At first look, the escaping seems invalid. Specifically, you escape the 
> folder separator after the drive letter (E:\\) but you are not escaping the 
> folder separator between the folders themselves 
> (\CyberArk\ApplicationPasswordSdk\CLIPasswordSDK.exe). Honestly its best to 
> just use the Folder Separator constant and let 4D handle the escaping for you.
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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech

Try creating another account on the same machine and see what happens. You 
could also delete all 4D preferences and see if that changes the situation

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> On Apr 16, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> that could be a broken configuration issue,
> which could also happen with apps other than 4D.
> 
> try a another mac with the same setup, or if that's not an option,
> try with a newly created account on the same computer.
> 
> you might find that the slowness is actually not reproducible elsewhere.
> 
> 2018/04/17 0:34、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
>  >> のメール：
> 
> Has anyone experienced extreme sluggishness (including beach ball) when 
> opening form properties or object properties?
> 
> For every change I make in the properties, I have to wait at least 3 seconds 
> before 4D responds, occasionally showing the beach ball.
> 
> Making changes takes forever this way…

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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech

that could be a broken configuration issue,
which could also happen with apps other than 4D.

try a another mac with the same setup, or if that's not an option,
try with a newly created account on the same computer.

you might find that the slowness is actually not reproducible elsewhere.

2018/04/17 0:34、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech 
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Has anyone experienced extreme sluggishness (including beach ball) when opening 
form properties or object properties?

For every change I make in the properties, I have to wait at least 3 seconds 
before 4D responds, occasionally showing the beach ball.

Making changes takes forever this way…


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v13+ On Err Call - overhead?

2018-04-16 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech

What kind of over head is there on setting and clearing On Err Call?

If On Err Call is being set and cleared in a loop, is there a 
significant overhead issue?

ex:

For($i;1;Some_Integer_Value)
  on err call("Error_Handler")
  do stuff which could generate error
  on err call ("")
  do other stuff 
end for
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4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech

Has anyone experienced extreme sluggishness (including beach ball) when opening 
form properties or object properties?

For every change I make in the properties, I have to wait at least 3 seconds 
before 4D responds, occasionally showing the beach ball.

Making changes takes forever this way…


Regards,

Rudy Mortier
Two Way Communications bvba 


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Re: 64Bit Client Cannot Connect to server - 16r5

2018-04-16 Thread John Baughman via 4D_Tech

Make sure that use legacy network layer is unchecked in database settings. 

John Baughman
Kailua, Hawaii
john...@hawaii.rr.com

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 1:26 AM, 4dialog via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> it may be the network layer thats diff. in old 32 vs 64-bit?
> 
> http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77545
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4D running in a Mac-VM

2018-04-16 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech

G'day All,

I’m thinking about checking if a 4D-Application is running in a VM-Environment.

I’m wondering if someone doing such a thing would be so kind and open the 
terminal in the VM-Mac and enter 

"system_profiler SPSoftwareDataType” (without the double-quotes) and report 
what he/she got back for “Boot Mode” (see example):.

System Software Overview:

  System Version: OS X 10.11.6 (15G20015)
  Kernel Version: Darwin 15.6.0
  Boot Volume: Macintosh HD

--—>  Boot Mode: Normal   <-

  Computer Name: 
  User Name: $
  Secure Virtual Memory: etc. etc. etc.

The right place to look for the information in question would be also highly 
appreciated.

Thanks

Cheers
Jörg

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