Re: 4D World Tour - Seattle

2019-05-05 Thread Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech 
John Foster wrote:

>I am sending this knowing that there is only one more stop in San Jose. But if 
>you have any doubts about going please don’t.
>
>Take advantage of the first free day with a free lunch and fellow camaraderie. 
>And get teased about the content of the 2nd day.

I second John’s comments about 4DWT Seattle! I’ve been distracted from ‘modern’ 
4D features for a few years, so it was great to get re-introduced to 4D at the 
4DWT. The new Object, Collection, ORDA paradigm is truly transformative.

I will add that I was probably most excited by the short overview that Will 
Taylor provided of QAAS (Quality Assurance Automation Services). It appears to 
address what I’ve long considered to be a major shortcoming in 4D - the lack of 
support for automated testing. In my experience, the lion’s share of the cost 
of version upgrades and/or major code refactoring is the test burden, which, in 
the 4D world, is all manual. The lack of a regression testing tool is a major 
reason many systems are not kept up to date, making this new feature/service 
extremely valuable. The tools which Will described look like they make provide 
the hooks into industry standard automated test tools possible.

On top of that, the continued maturing of native support for version control 
will transform how 4D developers manage code, especially in distributed teams.

If you can make it to one or both days in San Jose, you will find it to be time 
well spent.

Tom Benedict

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Re: 4D V15 crash

2019-05-05 Thread Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech 
But why would restarting the Mac solve it?

> On May 5, 2019, at 2:46 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe it’s part of the 4D license validation routine trying to phone home...
> 
>> Le 4 mai 2019 à 17:58, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> And, the reboot fixed whatever was bothering it. Runs fine now.
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2019, at 8:07 AM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech 
>>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My son is a software engineer at Apple. I passed him the crash log last 
>>> night. He could not find anything obvious. He mentioned something about 
>>> converting a URL format.
>>> 
>>> Then I copied the entire setup to my MacBook Air. First time to open, it 
>>> crashed. I then rebooted the MacBook. The app started up just fine. So, I 
>>> rebooted the client machine which loses my Teamviewer connection. I’ll get 
>>> it setup later today and see what happens.
>>> 
 On May 3, 2019, at 9:53 PM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
 wrote:
 
 Look at the crash log (should be in ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports). It 
 often gives helpful clues about what is causing the crash.
 
 
 John DeSoi, Ph.D.
 
 
> On May 3, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
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> My client (4 time zones away), had been running the single user compiled 
> and merged app under windows. Then he purchased a new Mac. It is running 
> 10.14.3, I’m running 10.14.4. I have moved the appropriate mac app files 
> to his machine, along with the datafile and index file from his PC.
> 
> 4D crashes on startup.
> 
> Then I had him add a printer. Tried again. No  luck.
 
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Re: 4D V15 crash

2019-05-05 Thread Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech 
Maybe it’s part of the 4D license validation routine trying to phone home...

> Le 4 mai 2019 à 17:58, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a 
> écrit :
> 
> And, the reboot fixed whatever was bothering it. Runs fine now.
> 
>> On May 4, 2019, at 8:07 AM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My son is a software engineer at Apple. I passed him the crash log last 
>> night. He could not find anything obvious. He mentioned something about 
>> converting a URL format.
>> 
>> Then I copied the entire setup to my MacBook Air. First time to open, it 
>> crashed. I then rebooted the MacBook. The app started up just fine. So, I 
>> rebooted the client machine which loses my Teamviewer connection. I’ll get 
>> it setup later today and see what happens.
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2019, at 9:53 PM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Look at the crash log (should be in ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports). It 
>>> often gives helpful clues about what is causing the crash.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John DeSoi, Ph.D.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 3, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech 
 <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
 
 My client (4 time zones away), had been running the single user compiled 
 and merged app under windows. Then he purchased a new Mac. It is running 
 10.14.3, I’m running 10.14.4. I have moved the appropriate mac app files 
 to his machine, along with the datafile and index file from his PC.
 
 4D crashes on startup.
 
 Then I had him add a printer. Tried again. No  luck.
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