Re: Write Pro view mode
this feature was introduced in 17 R5: WP SET VIEW PROPERTIES( wpDoc | ( * ; "zoneWrite") ; prefWritePro) WP Get view properties( wpDoc | ( * ; "zoneWrite")) -> prefWritePro see also: http://forums.4d.fr/Post/FR/18150033/1/18150034 http://forums.4d.fr/Post/FR/18134916/1/18134917 http://forums.4d.fr/NewPost/FR/16557278/18222051 http://forums.4d.com/Post/FR/21803748/1/21803749 > 2019/10/29 11:12、Mitchell Shiller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール: > Is there a way to procedurally change the view mode of a 4D Write Pro area. > I’m using 4D 17R6. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Write Pro view mode
Hi, Is there a way to procedurally change the view mode of a 4D Write Pro area. I’m using 4D 17R6. I have a widget on a page which is displayed in Page mode. I want to be able to procedurally hide or show the toolbars. Thanks Mitch Sent from my iPad ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: MySQL connection from 4D
Are you sure it's version 3? According to Wikipedia that version dates back to the 1990s... :) Jeff > On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Hi > > Does anyone know if 4D is able to connect to a MySQL server running version > 3x? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: SV: OPEN DATA FILE gets endless loop
Carl, Are you aware that once you point a 4D Database to a datafile - it remembers that data file? So... Open database -> where is my data file Point database to data file -> OK I'm happy! startup completes. You never have to do this again, unless you want to change data files. Chip On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 21:29:17 +0100, wangel--- via 4D_Tech wrote: > Thanks for your response Jeremy. You have made it clear to me that > OPEN DATA FILE first closes the database and then reopen it with the > wanted datafile and then repeat that unless something stops it. I > tried with $dataPath:="" which obviously was not a particularly > brilliant idea. > I think I shall incorporate a Default.4DD file and try it from there. > Regards > Carl > >> >> From: Jeremy Roussak >> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> Cc: wan...@online.no >> Subject: Re: OPEN DATA FILE gets endless loop >> Message-ID: <8ef1b76a-1b3a-42d5-9bfb-aad0bd0fc...@mac.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 > >> Carl, > >> I hesitate to suggest something quite so obvious, but it seems to me >> that each time you enter the On Startup method, you > >> 1. Set $dataPath to a path >> 2. Test $dataPath is “”, which of course it isn’t 3. Open a data >> file 4. Set $dataPath to “” (effectively pointless) 5. Re-enter On >> startup when the new data file opens 6. Go to step 1; hence your loop > >> From the OPEN DATA FILE documentation: > >> If the access path sets a valid data file, 4D quits the database in >> progress and re-opens it with the specified data file. In >> single-user mode, the Semaphore >> >and the On >> Startup database method >> >> are successively called. >> Warning: Since this command causes the application to quit before >> re-opening with the specified data file, it must be used with >> precaution in the On Startup database method >> <>file:///4Dv17/4D/17/On-Startup->database-method.301-3730029.en.html> >> or in a method called by this database method, so as to avoid >> generating an infinite loop. > >> Jeremy > ** > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** We have done so much, with so little, for so long; We are now qualified to anything with nothing - unknown ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
SV: OPEN DATA FILE gets endless loop
Thanks for your response Jeremy. You have made it clear to me that OPEN DATA FILE first closes the database and then reopen it with the wanted datafile and then repeat that unless something stops it. I tried with $dataPath:="" which obviously was not a particularly brilliant idea. I think I shall incorporate a Default.4DD file and try it from there. Regards Carl > >From: Jeremy Roussak >To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >Cc: wan...@online.no >Subject: Re: OPEN DATA FILE gets endless loop >Message-ID: <8ef1b76a-1b3a-42d5-9bfb-aad0bd0fc...@mac.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >Carl, >I hesitate to suggest something quite so obvious, but it seems to me that each >time you enter the On Startup method, you >1. Set $dataPath to a path >2. Test $dataPath is “”, which of course it isn’t 3. Open a data file 4. Set >$dataPath to “” (effectively pointless) 5. Re-enter On startup when the new >data file opens 6. Go to step 1; hence your loop >From the OPEN DATA FILE documentation: >If the access path sets a valid data file, 4D quits the database in progress >and re-opens it with the specified data file. In single-user mode, the >Semaphore >and the On >Startup database method > are >successively called. >Warning: Since this command causes the application to quit before re-opening >with the specified data file, it must be used with precaution in the On >Startup database method ><>file:///4Dv17/4D/17/On-Startup->database-method.301-3730029.en.html> or in a >method called by this database method, so as to avoid generating an infinite >loop. >Jeremy ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: MySQL connection from 4D
The fact that it doesn’t require that you set up an ODBC Source on each machine you want to use it on is easily worth the price. Just pass it a connection string and you’re on your way. Tom Benedict > On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:49, Jim Labos - infobase via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > My suggestion is to try the demo of Pluggers myConnect plugin to try and > connect. It will at least help you find the correct syntax or protocol to > connect. > > We have been using it for years with no problem. It's one of those plugins > that is worth every penny. > > For the price it may be worth buying and stop puling your hairs out. Also > Rob is very helpful when needed. Whenever we had a problem it was always our > syntax etc. > > Worth giving it a try if only to verify if something else isn't the problem. > > Jim > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: MySQL connection from 4D
My suggestion is to try the demo of Pluggers myConnect plugin to try and connect. It will at least help you find the correct syntax or protocol to connect. We have been using it for years with no problem. It's one of those plugins that is worth every penny. For the price it may be worth buying and stop puling your hairs out. Also Rob is very helpful when needed. Whenever we had a problem it was always our syntax etc. Worth giving it a try if only to verify if something else isn't the problem. Jim - Jim Labos - infobase -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Cache flushing did not complete... best practice
Or use a mirror. Highly recommended if the database is important... > On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:59 PM, JPR via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > The only 100% accurate way is to restart from the Backup file (made by 4D) > and integrate the current log file(s). This is the only way to be sure of > the data integrity. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Cache flushing did not complete... best practice
[JPR] Hi Justin, Tim's explanation is the good one. When 4D starts flushing the cache, it writes a flag into the .4DD file, and clears it when the flush is complete. Here are some answers: > Are you sure the marker is stored in the data file? Yes, I do. > If I restore a backup from Time Machine that I know was good and verify the > records in the MSC, the verify fails saying the last database flush did not > complete. When you do a backup with any other program than 4D, including Time Machine, you backup what is on disk, but not the cache itself. This is why only 4D Backup can be trusted. > I would think that the marker is stored someplace else. No, it's not. > If I run a repair on the datafile 4D crashes. I have tried to run the repair > several times and it crashes at the same spot every time. Then you probably have a damaged sector on your disk, or at least a damaged 4D block that 4D cannot read and process. > I ran a repair on the structure and it failed reporting that the flush did > not complete. Yes, because the flag is not in the structure file. > Finally I ran a repair on the datafile using record headers and it looks like > I am back in. Just waiting on reindexing to finish. This is one of the 2 safe solutions. Almost. But not 100% reliable. You may have lost some record(s) and the data integrity is not guaranteed. For instance, you may lose Client record, but still have Invoices for this Client. This is the last solution when everything else has failed. The only 100% accurate way is to restart from the Backup file (made by 4D) and integrate the current log file(s). This is the only way to be sure of the data integrity. My very best, JPR PS: Data Analyzer can show you where is the Cache Flushing Flag, but doesn't allow you to clear it, for it is the worst thing to do... ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: MySQL connection from 4D
One other bit of info is that the mySQL database I’m connecting to is version 8.0.17. Sorry I don’t have any experience with version 3.x. Tom Benedict > On Oct 28, 2019, at 09:11, Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > The only thing I can add is to make sure your ODBC Driver, ODBC Data Source > Administrator and 4D all match with respect to 32bit or 64 bit. > > I am connecting to a mySQL DB using 4D Native (SQL LOGIN) via mySQL ODBC 8.0 > Unicode Driver and 4D v17R4. All 64 bit. > > HTH, > > Tom Benedict > >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 09:00, Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> Jeff >> >> Indeed i did look at that(-its overkill for what i need) but it does say on >> there it works for Mysql V4 and up-hence why i am wondering of 4D in itself >> won’t connect to and older version. >> >> Thanks >> >> Nigel >> >>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 15:54, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you don't get anywhere with SQL LOGIN (which should work, given the >>> right driver settings), Pluggers Software sells the MyConnect plug-in which >>> works perfectly and is very fast/reliable. >>> >>> https://www.pluggers.nl/product/myconnect-plugin/ >>> >>> We've been using it for many years performing crucial functions interfacing >>> 4D with our web stack that run 24x7x365. >>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: Should I be doing something else other that SQL LOGIN(ODBC:xx.xx.xx.xx;username;password) for a MySQL server? >>> >>> ** >>> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >>> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >>> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >>> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >>> ** >> >> ** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> ** > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: MySQL connection from 4D
The only thing I can add is to make sure your ODBC Driver, ODBC Data Source Administrator and 4D all match with respect to 32bit or 64 bit. I am connecting to a mySQL DB using 4D Native (SQL LOGIN) via mySQL ODBC 8.0 Unicode Driver and 4D v17R4. All 64 bit. HTH, Tom Benedict > On Oct 28, 2019, at 09:00, Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Jeff > > Indeed i did look at that(-its overkill for what i need) but it does say on > there it works for Mysql V4 and up-hence why i am wondering of 4D in itself > won’t connect to and older version. > > Thanks > > Nigel > >> On 28 Oct 2019, at 15:54, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> If you don't get anywhere with SQL LOGIN (which should work, given the right >> driver settings), Pluggers Software sells the MyConnect plug-in which works >> perfectly and is very fast/reliable. >> >> https://www.pluggers.nl/product/myconnect-plugin/ >> >> We've been using it for many years performing crucial functions interfacing >> 4D with our web stack that run 24x7x365. >> >>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech >>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >>> >>> Should I be doing something else other that SQL >>> LOGIN(ODBC:xx.xx.xx.xx;username;password) for a MySQL server? >> >> ** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> ** > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: MySQL connection from 4D
Jeff Indeed i did look at that(-its overkill for what i need) but it does say on there it works for Mysql V4 and up-hence why i am wondering of 4D in itself won’t connect to and older version. Thanks Nigel > On 28 Oct 2019, at 15:54, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > If you don't get anywhere with SQL LOGIN (which should work, given the right > driver settings), Pluggers Software sells the MyConnect plug-in which works > perfectly and is very fast/reliable. > > https://www.pluggers.nl/product/myconnect-plugin/ > > We've been using it for many years performing crucial functions interfacing > 4D with our web stack that run 24x7x365. > >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >> >> Should I be doing something else other that SQL >> LOGIN(ODBC:xx.xx.xx.xx;username;password) for a MySQL server? > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: MySQL connection from 4D
If you don't get anywhere with SQL LOGIN (which should work, given the right driver settings), Pluggers Software sells the MyConnect plug-in which works perfectly and is very fast/reliable. https://www.pluggers.nl/product/myconnect-plugin/ We've been using it for many years performing crucial functions interfacing 4D with our web stack that run 24x7x365. > On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Should I be doing something else other that SQL > LOGIN(ODBC:xx.xx.xx.xx;username;password) for a MySQL server? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
MySQL connection from 4D
Hi I am pretty sure other people are connecting to MySQL from 4D so i am hoping someone can advise me on where my problems may lie. Pre-amble:— I want to connect to the database of an Asterisk Telephone server. We have established that the database is accessible on the network and using ‘sequel-pro’ i can connect from my Mac(Seqel-pro bypasses ODBC manager so its not that helpful in diagnosing my problem). I have also been able to setup and test an ODBC connection using the ODBC manager on WIndows, as i was not having much luck getting a connection from 4D to the MySQL database on my mac i switched my efforts to there. After some flapping around I established that the my-sql connector we had did not match the my-sql server which is running 3.5x. Later drivers on the pc would not connect but the 3.5 driver does connect to the MySQL database From Windows(as you know the odbc administrator on PC The problem in a nutshel:— However when i try to get my 4D app to to perform a login i get a stack overflow problem from 4D V17.(recursive errors eventually returning control to me!). Does anyone know if 4D is able to connect to a MySQL server running version 3x? Should I be doing something else other that SQL LOGIN(ODBC:xx.xx.xx.xx;username;password) for a MySQL server? Nigel Greenlee ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
