Re: 4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube
Actually the latter of the 2 blog posts is an attempt to duplicate the look and feel fo 4D Write. The 30 Nov post is interesting and for me I think more intuitive. Count me in with the “lazy”. The whole idea of a component, plug-in, library… whatever is to save me time. So I think it is great that 4D Write Pro provides the developer with the ability to create a custom interface. On the other hand,howver, I feel strongly that it should come with a built in interface or one should be provided in the future to use out of the box. John > On Dec 13, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On Dec 13, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Paul Dennis wrote: > >> I appreciate that 4d has got round to providing us with a tool bar. Can >> somebody please tell the designers who seem to rule the roost that we dont >> need great big icons and clunky fonts. What is the obsession ? Please can we >> have something like the original 4d write style. > > You are provided all the source code and images. So you take what you like > and replace what you don’t like. Or you can build your own completely from > scratch. > > That’s the beauty of how they have implemented 4D Write Pro. It is totally up > to you to provide any interface you want with as much detail, or as simple as > you think is best. This is just a starting point to provide an example of how > to do that. And for the lazy ones that don’t want to spend any time on a > custom UI. > > If you want the original 4D Write style interface, you can easily create it > yourself. > > I prefer this to the old way of 4D doing things where you took what they gave > you and that was the end of it. I will take this example and remove some > items that I feel my users don’t need to be burdened with. And I will change > the icons to colorized versions and a bit smaller. Then they will my the UI > of my existing 4D applications. > > Tim > > > Tim Nevels > Innovative Solutions > 785-749-3444 > timnev...@mac.com > > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** John Baughman Kailua, Hawaii (808) 262-0328 john...@hawaii.rr.com ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube
On Dec 13, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Paul Dennis wrote: > I appreciate that 4d has got round to providing us with a tool bar. Can > somebody please tell the designers who seem to rule the roost that we dont > need great big icons and clunky fonts. What is the obsession ? Please can we > have something like the original 4d write style. You are provided all the source code and images. So you take what you like and replace what you don’t like. Or you can build your own completely from scratch. That’s the beauty of how they have implemented 4D Write Pro. It is totally up to you to provide any interface you want with as much detail, or as simple as you think is best. This is just a starting point to provide an example of how to do that. And for the lazy ones that don’t want to spend any time on a custom UI. If you want the original 4D Write style interface, you can easily create it yourself. I prefer this to the old way of 4D doing things where you took what they gave you and that was the end of it. I will take this example and remove some items that I feel my users don’t need to be burdened with. And I will change the icons to colorized versions and a bit smaller. Then they will my the UI of my existing 4D applications. Tim Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube
Hello Paul, who is "we"? No offense, many people surely prefer unchanged appearances over new looks one might have to get used to, especially if they require additional layout adaptations. I assume there is a sizable group of people who prefer a new appearance for many other reasons. Life is really easier if you start to understand and even appreciate other people's ideas and approaches. Please remark that I also didn't speak of "old, tiny, unclickable, ugly" icons for the old toolbar. No need to judge, neither set of UIs. Best regards, Tilman > Am 13.12.2017 um 10:37 schrieb Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>: > > I appreciate that 4d has got round to providing us with a tool bar. Can > somebody please tell the designers who seem to rule the roost that we dont > need great big icons and clunky fonts. What is the obsession ? Please can we > have something like the original 4d write style. > Thanks > Paul > > > > -- > Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube
I appreciate that 4d has got round to providing us with a tool bar. Can somebody please tell the designers who seem to rule the roost that we dont need great big icons and clunky fonts. What is the obsession ? Please can we have something like the original 4d write style. Thanks Paul -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube
Hi John, The blog post I referenced was from December 11th (https://blog.4d.com/4d-write-like-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro) The December 11th post included this demo: http://download.4d.com/4DBlog/Tips/4DWriteLikeToolbarDemo.zip That December 11th blog post references another blog post from November 30th (https://blog.4d.com/ready-to-use-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro) The November 30th post included this demo: http://download.4d.com/4DBlog/Tips/4DWriteProToolbarDemo_v16R5.zip The Youtube video you referenced was from published to Youtube on November 24th (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpI2L8nCgzE) That video was embedded into the November 30th blog post (https://blog.4d.com/ready-to-use-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro). Hope that helps, -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube
Is it this one? https://blog.4d.com/4d-write-like-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro/ On 13 December 2017 at 00:01, John Baughman via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpI2L8nCgzE > > The above YouTube video shows and refers to a sample database. Anyone know > where to find this database? > > Thanks, > > John > > > John Baughman > Kailua, Hawaii > (808) 262-0328 > john...@hawaii.rr.com > > > > > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- * CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 w: http://www.catbase.com skype: pat.bensky * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube
Maybe the blog (blog.4d.com)? Here is the latest blog post: https://blog.4d.com/4d-write-like-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro/ -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpI2L8nCgzE The above YouTube video shows and refers to a sample database. Anyone know where to find this database? Thanks, John John Baughman Kailua, Hawaii (808) 262-0328 john...@hawaii.rr.com ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
