Re: Any Success Running 4D v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?

[Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech]

Thank you everyone who responded.  We tried to disable DEP and that did 
not solve the issue.


The first time the issue arose, it looked like it was running as a 
service - (the status said it was running), but no one could log into 
the built server.  Clients would receive a -10002 error.


Because the application was needed for production and they were already 
down for a day+, they reverted back to Win 7.


I'm looking into upgrading their application to the latest version of 4D.

This list has been a wonderful resource during my many years of using 
4D.  I don't come here often, but when I do... I always find excellent 
advice.  As always, my sincere thanks to all who share their knowledge.


Best regards,
Ken


On 01/19/21 11:05 AM, Randy Jaynes wrote:
Depending on where you have the built application installed, Windows may 
be moving the app into a ‘protected folder’ as the application is 
starting up, effectively pulling the carpet out from under your application.


I would suspect something like this if it’s in one of the Program Files 
folders.


Randy

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On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote:


I'm trying to help out a user of a 4D v13.6 Built Server.  They 
upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro without asking - and the built 
server will not run.


Ken Geiger said he believed 4D v13 and Win 10 Pro were not compatible. 
Thanks Ken!


Before I tell the end user that they need to either upgrade their 4D 
application or revert back to Win 7... Has anyone had success running 
v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?



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Re: Any Success Running 4D v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?

[Peter Adam via 4D_Tech]

Because of the permissions issues that seem to be a permanent feature of Win 10 
I install our built servers in the Public folder and have no permissions 
issues. Been doing this with 4D v13 for years.


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> On 20 Jan 2021, at 3:05 am, Randy Jaynes via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
> > wrote:
> 
> Depending on where you have the built application installed, Windows may be 
> moving the app into a ‘protected folder’ as the application is starting up, 
> effectively pulling the carpet out from under your application.
> 
> I would suspect something like this if it’s in one of the Program Files 
> folders.
> 
> Randy
> 
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> Senior Programmer and Customer Support
> 
> http://printpoint.com  • 845.687.3741 • PrintPoint, 
> Inc • 57 Ludlow Lane • Palisades, NY 10964 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please send all emails to supp...@printpoint.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm trying to help out a user of a 4D v13.6 Built Server.  They upgraded 
>> from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro without asking - and the built server will not run.
>> 
>> Ken Geiger said he believed 4D v13 and Win 10 Pro were not compatible. 
>> Thanks Ken!
>> 
>> Before I tell the end user that they need to either upgrade their 4D 
>> application or revert back to Win 7... Has anyone had success running v13.6 
>> on Win 10 Pro?
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Re: Any Success Running 4D v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?

[Randy Jaynes via 4D_Tech]

Depending on where you have the built application installed, Windows may be 
moving the app into a ‘protected folder’ as the application is starting up, 
effectively pulling the carpet out from under your application.

I would suspect something like this if it’s in one of the Program Files folders.

Randy

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http://printpoint.com • 845.687.3741 • PrintPoint, Inc • 57 Ludlow Lane • 
Palisades, NY 10964 




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> On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to help out a user of a 4D v13.6 Built Server.  They upgraded from 
> Win 7 to Win 10 Pro without asking - and the built server will not run.
> 
> Ken Geiger said he believed 4D v13 and Win 10 Pro were not compatible. Thanks 
> Ken!
> 
> Before I tell the end user that they need to either upgrade their 4D 
> application or revert back to Win 7... Has anyone had success running v13.6 
> on Win 10 Pro?

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Re: Any Success Running 4D v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?

[THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech]

I have used v13.6 on Windows 10 and Windows Server 2012. 4D Server, 4D 
Standalone. Even EOM Builds work.

Tom Benedict
> On 01/19/2021 7:47 AM Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> I'm trying to help out a user of a 4D v13.6 Built Server.  They upgraded 
> from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro without asking - and the built server will not 
> run.
> 
> Ken Geiger said he believed 4D v13 and Win 10 Pro were not compatible. 
> Thanks Ken!
> 
> Before I tell the end user that they need to either upgrade their 4D 
> application or revert back to Win 7... Has anyone had success running 
> v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ken
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RE: Any Success Running 4D v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?

[Lo via 4D_Tech]

Hi Ken

Standalone 4D.
Standard server - client
Both fine.
Not used a built server I'm afraid.

All 4D versions from 2003 up work under Win 10 for me.
Along with most Windows server versions. Not tried them all.
Some older plug in issues.
Some need DEP setting, but that caused 4D to fail to start entirely - no error 
message.
Some UI issues in older versions but nothing serious.

Best
Lo

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Subject: Any Success Running 4D v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?

I'm trying to help out a user of a 4D v13.6 Built Server.  They upgraded from 
Win 7 to Win 10 Pro without asking - and the built server will not run.

Ken Geiger said he believed 4D v13 and Win 10 Pro were not compatible. 
Thanks Ken!

Before I tell the end user that they need to either upgrade their 4D 
application or revert back to Win 7... Has anyone had success running
v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?

Thanks,
Ken

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Any Success Running 4D v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?

[Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech]

I'm trying to help out a user of a 4D v13.6 Built Server.  They upgraded 
from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro without asking - and the built server will not 
run.


Ken Geiger said he believed 4D v13 and Win 10 Pro were not compatible. 
Thanks Ken!


Before I tell the end user that they need to either upgrade their 4D 
application or revert back to Win 7... Has anyone had success running 
v13.6 on Win 10 Pro?


Thanks,
Ken

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