Re: Apple Agrees with 4D

2016-10-28 Thread Jim Labos - infobase
I agree!  (couldn't help myself on a Friday afternoon).

Cheers

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Re: Apple Agrees with 4D

2016-10-28 Thread Douglas Cryer
Peter,

So are 4D going to provide us with the tools to populate this new window or is 
some clever developer going to provide us with a plug-in?

I may have miss-understood the whole thing but it seems that unless we have 
some access to the touch bar then in actual fact 4D will not agree with Apple ☺

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Re: Apple Agrees with 4D !

2016-10-27 Thread Sujit Shah
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Balinder Walia 
wrote:

> Hybrid is the way to go. If possible get 4D single user app to talk to
> server via JSON and then use the power of desktop app optionally data
> should stay in cloud or local...
>
> Balinder
>

This is the tricky bit. Big changes would be required both on the UI and
backend to match 4D Client over WAN.
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Re: Apple Agrees with 4D !

2016-10-27 Thread Balinder Walia
Hybrid is the way to go. If possible get 4D single user app to talk to
server via JSON and then use the power of desktop app optionally data
should stay in cloud or local...

Balinder

On Friday, 28 October 2016, Sujit Shah  wrote:

> I like the drag and drop controls to the touch bar. Would have preferred a
> touch screen to be on the right (and left) next to the touch pad. So the
> whole touch pad section is one seamless end to end panel giving the user
> more options. (and some clever mechanism to activate and deactivate the
> screen with palm pressure)
>
> :-p
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Walt Nelson  > wrote:
>
> >
> > > On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Sujit Shah  > wrote:
> > >
> > > Which article/product or press release are you referring to?
> >
> > Sujit,
> >
> > I believe he is referring to the new MacBook Pro with the touch strip:
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2016/
> >
> > Announced at the above event.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Walt Nelson (Seattle)
> > New stuff coming!
> > www.foundationshell.com
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Re: Apple Agrees with 4D !

2016-10-27 Thread Walt Nelson

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Sujit Shah  wrote:
> 
> Which article/product or press release are you referring to?

Sujit,

I believe he is referring to the new MacBook Pro with the touch strip:

http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2016/

Announced at the above event.

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Re: Apple Agrees with 4D !

2016-10-27 Thread Sujit Shah
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Bill Weale 
wrote:

> And, hopefully, also the proprietary/native client app, 4D Remote!
>
> (I don’t care what you throw at it or even who the U.S. president is, a
> web browser is a p___-poor client—an insult to its users—for any
> non-trivial application.)
>
> 8-)
>
> Bill
>
>
>

The main stream media is telling you to develop in the browser. Who is this
idiot (Desktop Application) barking about?

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Re: Apple Agrees with 4D !

2016-10-27 Thread Sujit Shah
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 6:13 AM, Peter Jakobsson 
wrote:

>
> Desktops are here to stay :-))
>
> In a classic dismissal of industry trends (one that they themselves
> initiated no less) they’ve migrated the screen to the keyboard instead of
> the keyboard to the screen.




Which article/product or press release are you referring to?




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Re: Apple Agrees with 4D !

2016-10-27 Thread Bill Weale
And, hopefully, also the proprietary/native client app, 4D Remote!

(I don’t care what you throw at it or even who the U.S. president is, a web 
browser is a p___-poor client—an insult to its users—for any non-trivial 
application.)

8-)

Bill




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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Peter Jakobsson  wrote:
> 
> Desktops are here to stay :-))

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Apple Agrees with 4D !

2016-10-27 Thread Peter Jakobsson

Desktops are here to stay :-))

In a classic dismissal of industry trends (one that they themselves initiated 
no less) they’ve migrated the screen to the keyboard instead of the keyboard to 
the screen. This is a very smart move IMO and after watching nearly 30 years of 
Apple launches I can’t help thinking it's a bit of a seminal event, especially 
for those of us developers who didn’t jump unhedged onto the mobile-tech 
bandwagon.

I’ve always thought that 4D made the right decision to keep the desktop product 
alive and evolve it. That decision has just had a huge endorsement from Apple 
in that they’ve recognised that power-software is ultimately a tool that starts 
and ends with a steering wheel, however many features may be in play.

I am very pleased about this and I think all 4D people should B2. (Sorry about 
the shorthand - been reading too many twitter feeds of people complaining about 
a touch strip rather than a touch screen. It’s ok, they just haven’t thought it 
through). 

Regards

Peter

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