Re: v13.6 - 2 servers same network, how to make it work

[Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech]

Hey Tim,
No, I hadn't seen that page but we were able to accomplish the intentions
of our testing on another machine on the network.
I'll try to go back to see if anything on the list makes a difference!
Thanks,
Alan

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Hi Alan,
>
> Did you see this?
>
> Tech Tip: Why can't I see my 4D Server?
> http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76047
>
> -Tim
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RE: v13.6 - 2 servers same network, how to make it work

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Hi Alan,

Did you see this?

Tech Tip: Why can't I see my 4D Server?
http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76047

-Tim



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Re: v13.6 - 2 servers same network, how to make it work

[Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech]

Hello everyone,
I moved the server to another machine and it seems to be working, for now
at least. Not sure what is going on!
Alan

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Alan Tilson  wrote:

> Hello Koen & Douglas,
> Thank you for confirming that I don't need to change the port numbers for
> 2 servers on different machines on the same network. I was "pretty" sure
> that this had worked in the past!
> Also, my attempt at changing the port numbers does seem to have made the
> 2nd server invisible, not showing up in available.
> So I changed the ports back to factory settings, closed & reopened 4d
> server, switched to another (virtual) machine and still the 2nd db is not
> showing up.
> Formerly it was showing up and then there was an error message when people
> tried to log into it to test the changes. They got this message "The
> connection for this process has been disrupted or the connection couldn't
> be established".
> Any ideas would really be appreciated!
> Alan
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
>> Alan,
>>
>> If you are running the databases on different servers each with their own
>> IP address you should not need to change the ports at all.  In this case,
>> if both are set with the default ports then they will both be visible under
>> available.
>>
>> If you are running two or more servers on the same server/ip address then
>> you must change one of the databases to broadcast on different ports.  The
>> server with the changed ports will not be visible under available to a
>> client that has not itself been customised.
>>
>> Instead you would need to click on the server that is available then go
>> to the custom tab change the name and add the port number to the end of the
>> IP address with a colon at the start such as “:19001”
>>
>> Regards,  Dougie
>> 
>>
>> telekinetix Limited- J. Douglas Cryer
>> Phone : 01234 761759  Mobile : 07973 675 218
>> 2nd Floor Broadway House, 4-6 The Broadway, Bedford MK40 2TE
>> Email : jdcr...@telekinetix.com   Web :
>> http://www.telekinetix.com 
>> 
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Re: v13.6 - 2 servers same network, how to make it work

[Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech]

Hello Koen & Douglas,
Thank you for confirming that I don't need to change the port numbers for 2
servers on different machines on the same network. I was "pretty" sure that
this had worked in the past!
Also, my attempt at changing the port numbers does seem to have made the
2nd server invisible, not showing up in available.
So I changed the ports back to factory settings, closed & reopened 4d
server, switched to another (virtual) machine and still the 2nd db is not
showing up.
Formerly it was showing up and then there was an error message when people
tried to log into it to test the changes. They got this message "The
connection for this process has been disrupted or the connection couldn't
be established".
Any ideas would really be appreciated!
Alan


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> If you are running the databases on different servers each with their own
> IP address you should not need to change the ports at all.  In this case,
> if both are set with the default ports then they will both be visible under
> available.
>
> If you are running two or more servers on the same server/ip address then
> you must change one of the databases to broadcast on different ports.  The
> server with the changed ports will not be visible under available to a
> client that has not itself been customised.
>
> Instead you would need to click on the server that is available then go to
> the custom tab change the name and add the port number to the end of the IP
> address with a colon at the start such as “:19001”
>
> Regards,  Dougie
> 
>
> telekinetix Limited- J. Douglas Cryer
> Phone : 01234 761759  Mobile : 07973 675 218
> 2nd Floor Broadway House, 4-6 The Broadway, Bedford MK40 2TE
> Email : jdcr...@telekinetix.com   Web :
> http://www.telekinetix.com 
> 
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Re: v13.6 - 2 servers same network, how to make it work

[Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech]

Alan,

If you are running the databases on different servers each with their own IP 
address you should not need to change the ports at all.  In this case, if both 
are set with the default ports then they will both be visible under available.

If you are running two or more servers on the same server/ip address then you 
must change one of the databases to broadcast on different ports.  The server 
with the changed ports will not be visible under available to a client that has 
not itself been customised.

Instead you would need to click on the server that is available then go to the 
custom tab change the name and add the port number to the end of the IP address 
with a colon at the start such as “:19001”

Regards,  Dougie


telekinetix Limited- J. Douglas Cryer
Phone : 01234 761759  Mobile : 07973 675 218
2nd Floor Broadway House, 4-6 The Broadway, Bedford MK40 2TE
Email : jdcr...@telekinetix.com   Web : 
http://www.telekinetix.com 


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Re: v13.6 - 2 servers same network, how to make it work

[Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech]

Hi Alan

First of all, if the 2 servers are on the same network but on a different 
machine, there is no need to change the publication ports. Those 2 machines 
will have different IP addresses and you will see both in the 4D connection 
dialog. Changing ports is only needed if you run 2 4D servers on the same 
machine. I suppose this is what you want?

4D Server needs only 2 ports for normal C/S operation. The Application port 
(19813 default) and the 4DDB Server port. The latter always being the 
application server port + 1 (thus default 19814). If you change the application 
port to eg 20005, the 4DDB will run on 20006.

If you use the SQL server (default 19812) on both apps, you might need to set 
this too.

There are of course other ports: http, https which you might need to change if 
running the webserver on two different 4D servers on the same machine.

There is one issue on changing the publication ports. The 4D server not running 
on its default port will not be automatically visible in the connection dialog.

HTH
Koen

> Op 19 sep. 2017, om 17:57 heeft Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I see where to change 2 port numbers but not 3.




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v13.6 - 2 servers same network, how to make it work

[Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech]

Hello everyone,
I thought I'd done this before but now cannot get it to work.
How do I run 2 4d servers on the same network?
I see where to change 2 port numbers but not 3.
Is that the main thing? I did change the database name...
I can't get the test db to show up under available...
Thanks,
Alan
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