[9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread David Leimbach
http://fiorentinix.altervista.org/ajbev3.php



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread David Leimbach
This is not from me.  I just received a bunch of mail from myself on a few 
email accounts at about this time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:17 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://fiorentinix.altervista.org/ajbev3.php
 



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread David Leimbach
It just occurred to me this could be the backup software I use on my Mac that 
runs overnight Its java based client may have done some bad things

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:17 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://fiorentinix.altervista.org/ajbev3.php
 



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread hiro
And I thought you guys were still using fossil and venti *g*

On 1/15/13, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
 It just occurred to me this could be the backup software I use on my Mac
 that runs overnight Its java based client may have done some bad things

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:17 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://fiorentinix.altervista.org/ajbev3.php






Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:17 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://fiorentinix.altervista.org/ajbev3.php


so, what is that place?

ron



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread David Leimbach


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2013, at 6:17 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:17 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://fiorentinix.altervista.org/ajbev3.php
 
 so, what is that place?
 
 ron
 
No idea



Re: [9fans] OED2 index?

2013-01-15 Thread Tristan
 Does anyone have an index file for OED2?

Which version do you have? Mine is from 1992.05.28 01:32. So I could
supply that one.

 (I have the CD, and was able to strip out the data using tristan's
 utilities, but I'm not having much luck generating the index file for
 use with dict.)

See /sys/src/cmd/dict/dict.c for the sort arguments, and my memory is
that mkindex puts the fields in reverse order too.

Tristan

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Re: [9fans] OED2 index?

2013-01-15 Thread phineas . pett
At Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:56:51 -0500,
Tristan  wrote:
 
  Does anyone have an index file for OED2?
 
 Which version do you have? Mine is from 1992.05.28 01:32. 

Yes, that's the very one :-)  Your index should work.

 So I could supply that one.

I would very much appreciate it.  How large is the file?  Emailable?

  (I have the CD, and was able to strip out the data using tristan's
  utilities, but I'm not having much luck generating the index file for
  use with dict.)
 
 See /sys/src/cmd/dict/dict.c for the sort arguments, and my memory is
 that mkindex puts the fields in reverse order too.

I noted those, thanks.  My trouble is building mkindex.c itself, I
gather this is supposed to be run against the oed2.dat file to generate
the index, but it is not clear to me what changes need to be made to
mkindex.c itself.

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Re: [9fans] PBSR...EI

2013-01-15 Thread erik quanstrom
 Ok, 9atom gets into the proper Plan 9 kernel but sticks at:
 
 896M memory: 256M kernel data, 639M user, 0M swap

thanks for trying.  you can change boot vars from the keyboard.
e.g. (type everything but the tab)

a *nomp=0
a *nousbehci=

unfortunately that first one doesn't work, since mp isn't built
into that kernel.

a few questions:
-  what kind of machine is it?
-  do you happen to have a screenshot?  also,
-  does this machine have a ps2 keyboard or serial?  if so, does it respond
to keys or ^T^T sequences?


normally the easiest way to debug this is to pxe boot with
various printing junk in the kernel till you've found it.

- erik



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread Matthew Veety

It doesn't render in mothra.



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jan 15 11:47:31 EST 2013, mve...@gmail.com wrote:
 It doesn't render in mothra.

cat is just as equiped to take on the modern web.

- erik



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:58:59AM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
 On Tue Jan 15 11:47:31 EST 2013, mve...@gmail.com wrote:
  It doesn't render in mothra.
 
 cat is just as equiped to take on the modern web.

cat can render images?



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread Stephen Wiley
Page can render images.
Inline images are for pomp aristocrats with lots of spare bandwidth laying 
around.

--Stephen
On Jan 15, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:58:59AM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
 On Tue Jan 15 11:47:31 EST 2013, mve...@gmail.com wrote:
 It doesn't render in mothra.
 
 cat is just as equiped to take on the modern web.
 
 cat can render images?
 




Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 02:39:02PM -0500, Stephen Wiley wrote:
 Page can render images.
 Inline images are for pomp aristocrats with lots of spare bandwidth laying 
 around.

This is an outrage.  I was promised html parsing and in-line images with
cat.



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread Jack Johnson
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote:
 This is an outrage.  I was promised html parsing and in-line images with
 cat.

Best mailing list message ever. :)

-J



Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread steve
oh, that's easy, you just need to use the -v option to cat...

On 15 Jan 2013, at 20:04, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 02:39:02PM -0500, Stephen Wiley wrote:
 Page can render images.
 Inline images are for pomp aristocrats with lots of spare bandwidth laying 
 around.
 
 This is an outrage.  I was promised html parsing and in-line images with
 cat.



Re: [9fans] PBSR...EI

2013-01-15 Thread David Arroyo
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:54 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net
wrote:
 the server is willing, but the network is weak.  ☺
 i'm evaluating some options now.  unfortunately, they're
 not cheap.

Have you considered using torrent? I'd be happy to seed it and I'm sure
others would too.

David Arroyo


Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread Matthew Veety
It seems to be mothra's spam blocker doing it. 

On Jan 15, 2013, at 17:03, hiro 23h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, I didn't know it was mothra's fault, I thought it was my DNS spam blocker.
 



Re: [9fans] PBSR...EI

2013-01-15 Thread cinap_lenrek
http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/ip/torrent.c

--
cinap



[9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread Alexander . Shendi
Hello 9fans,

So I succeded in installing 9front on my Dell Mini 9 netbook.
It is mostly working:
* Graphics: Working VESA mode 800x600x32
* Networking: Internal network card works, internal wifi doesn't 
  work, but didn't expect it to.
* USB: boot from USB key works, USB mouse works.


For good measure here are the kernel messages at boot.
Below are some questions regarding these.
---
term% cat /dev/kmesg

Plan 9
126 holes free
00018000 0009f000 552960
004ad000 1000 263532544
264085504 bytes free
cpu0: 1596MHz GenuineIntel Atom (cpuid: AX 0x106C2 CX 0x40C39D DX 0xBFE9FBFF)
LAPIC: fee0 e000
ELCR: 0CA0
rtl8169: oui 0x20 phyno 1, macv = 0x2480 phyv = 0x0001
#l0: rtl8169: 100Mbps port 0x2000 irq 11: 0024e897eb84
#A0: hda mem e0002000 irq 10
#A0: codec #0, vendor 10ec0268, rev 00100101
2039M memory: 256M kernel data, 1782M user, 2407M swap

/dev/sdC0: RunCore SSD
/dev/sdC0/9fat   dos
/dev/sdC0/data  
/dev/sdC0/dos   
/dev/sdC0/fscachecwfs64x
/dev/sdC0/fsworm
/dev/sdC0/nvram
/dev/sdC0/other 
/dev/sdC0/plan9
bootargs is (tcp, il, local!device) [local!/dev/sdC0/fscache] 
user[glenda]: 
bad nvram key
bad authentication id
bad authentication domain
nvrcheck: can't read nvram
current fs is main
10 uids read, 3 groups used
63-bit cwfs as of Wed Jan  9 06:13:52 2013
last boot Fri Jan  4 03:24:16 2013

init: starting /bin/rc
mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 5 tbdf  irq 7
intrenable: couldn't enable irq 7, tbdf 0x for lpt
---

So here are my questions:
- The last two lines look strange (as if something is
  broken). What do they mean?
- Can I expect audio to work? How do I verify that
  audio is working?

Many thanks in advance for your help. 

Best Regards,

Alexander




Re: [9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread erik quanstrom
 init: starting /bin/rc
 mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 5 tbdf  irq 7
 intrenable: couldn't enable irq 7, tbdf 0x for lpt
 ---
 
 So here are my questions:
 - The last two lines look strange (as if something is
   broken). What do they mean?

it probablly means that it looks like you have a parallel printer port
to the software, but you don't and there is no interrupt vector for it.

 - Can I expect audio to work? How do I verify that
   audio is working?

hget http://adstorage.jamba.net/storage/view/325/0/th/Theme2.mp3|games/mp3dec

- erik



Re: [9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread cinap_lenrek
please, do not post 9front questions to 9fans. post to
9fr...@googlegroups.com or ask in the irc channel.

 mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 5 tbdf  irq 7
 intrenable: couldn't enable irq 7, tbdf 0x for lpt

this means that your mps tables do have the isa irq 7 entry,
so the parallel port driver will be unable to use interrupts.

it will probably still work with polling. do you even have
a parallel port? ;)

another thing you could do is try *acpi= in plan9.ini.
it will identity map all isa irq's to gsi 0-15 except for
the ones that have a special override entry in the apic
table, so all isa irq's should be there with that method.

 #A0: hda mem e0002000 irq 10
 #A0: codec #0, vendor 10ec0268, rev 00100101

this is your soundcard. to test if it works, you can just
cat some file into /dev/audio like:

cat /bin/* /dev/audio

or if you have internet connection:

play http://9hal.ath.cx/usr/cinap_lenrek/plan9-jingle2.mp3

--
cinap



Re: [9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jan 15 23:46:23 EST 2013, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
 please, do not post 9front questions to 9fans. post to
 9fr...@googlegroups.com or ask in the irc channel.
 

this looks like a generic plan 9 question to me.  or is your
point to dilute the pool?

- erik



Re: [9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread cinap_lenrek
this is why you should not ask 9fans:

 hget http://adstorage.jamba.net/storage/view/325/0/th/Theme2.mp3|games/mp3dec

theres no games/mp3dec in 9front.

--
cinap



Re: [9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:49:13PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
 On Tue Jan 15 23:46:23 EST 2013, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
  please, do not post 9front questions to 9fans. post to
  9fr...@googlegroups.com or ask in the irc channel.
  
 
 this looks like a generic plan 9 question to me.  or is your
 point to dilute the pool?
 
 - erik
 

his point is that half the time someone brings up 9front here they get
bitched at and told to take it to the 9front list.  stop with the
mccarthy shit; he's just trying to keep the noise down.



Re: [9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jan 15 23:52:31 EST 2013, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
 this is why you should not ask 9fans:
 
  hget 
  http://adstorage.jamba.net/storage/view/325/0/th/Theme2.mp3|games/mp3dec
 
 theres no games/mp3dec in 9front.

and this is why making stuff incompatabile for no benefit is not a good idea.

i think richard's pi work is really quite good stuff.  there's nothing extra.
it's just a pi.  the rest of us tend to fall in the trap of trying to change 
things
that are not relevant.

well. most of the rest.  and i'm part of the most.

- erik



Re: [9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread cinap_lenrek
sorry. but he just asked how to test if audio works on his
9front installation and you giving him commands that will
not work on his machine.

--
cinap



Re: [9fans] Installation of 9front on Dell Mini 9, some noob questions

2013-01-15 Thread Alexander Shendi (Web.de)
Sorry for the noise. I wasn't aware that there was a separate 9front
mailing list. I will ask further questions there. FWIW audio works.

Thank you for your help,

Alexander





cinap_len...@gmx.de schrieb:

please, do not post 9front questions to 9fans. post to
9fr...@googlegroups.com or ask in the irc channel.

 mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 5 tbdf  irq 7
 intrenable: couldn't enable irq 7, tbdf 0x for lpt

this means that your mps tables do have the isa irq 7 entry,
so the parallel port driver will be unable to use interrupts.

it will probably still work with polling. do you even have
a parallel port? ;)

another thing you could do is try *acpi= in plan9.ini.
it will identity map all isa irq's to gsi 0-15 except for
the ones that have a special override entry in the apic
table, so all isa irq's should be there with that method.

 #A0: hda mem e0002000 irq 10
 #A0: codec #0, vendor 10ec0268, rev 00100101

this is your soundcard. to test if it works, you can just
cat some file into /dev/audio like:

cat /bin/* /dev/audio

or if you have internet connection:

play http://9hal.ath.cx/usr/cinap_lenrek/plan9-jingle2.mp3

--
cinap

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Re: [9fans] info for manual

2013-01-15 Thread Francesco Cardi
 ah ok and it will be possible to have the translation of the manual
 that is sold on the website? dealt with by the company to do the
 translation or community volunteers to hell os?



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[9fans] obscure mk question

2013-01-15 Thread erik quanstrom
suppose i have a mkfile that looks like the following:

STUFF=

top:V:  ${STUFF:%=%.stuff}
echo $prereq

does the error message

mk: don't know how to make '.stuff' in directory XXX

seem right?  /sys/doc/mk.ps doesn't specify, but i would
expect the substitution to come up with an empty list rather than
a list of the empty string.

- erik



Re: [9fans] info for manual

2013-01-15 Thread pmarin
There is no translation of the manual in other  language, sorry but
it's just product of your imagination.

People still don't understand that sarcasm and irony don't work in
Internet, they only produce noise and confusion.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Francesco Cardi
cardifrance...@gmail.com wrote:
 ah ok and it will be possible to have the translation of the manual
 that is sold on the website? dealt with by the company to do the
 translation or community volunteers to hell os?



 ?


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 Free Software activist
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