Re: [9fans] Plan 9 potential target ports (Was: PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!))

2018-10-12 Thread Chris McGee
> I do recall, vaguely, an Olimex comment about graphics being more
> accessible, but I did not make a note, the little that stuck was that
> some hardware manufacturer had embraced a slightly better standard
> than VESA, or some such. There may be some hardware out there that
> does not have "closed" graphics.
>

I thought that aijuboard got around this with an fpga implementation of a
frame buffer and hdmi signalling, but I suppose that ramps up the price
significantly as you'd need an fpga board in there and also an hdmi capable
lcd. Otherwise, I wonder how difficult it would be to set up a framebuffer
on the A64 like what was done with Richard's rpi code.

Chris


Re: [9fans] Plan 9 potential target ports (Was: PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!))

2018-10-12 Thread Lucio De Re
On 10/12/18, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i think generally there's a lot of low-power linux stuff to chose
> from, but once you plan to port plan9 to it, the fragmented nature of
> the arm platforms becomes a problem. no free lunch :(
>
That is a fact, Hiro. I paid scant attention to that issue, perhaps
being old enough to consider (wrongly, in the case of the Plan 9 user
space) that graphics are not indispensable.

I do recall, vaguely, an Olimex comment about graphics being more
accessible, but I did not make a note, the little that stuck was that
some hardware manufacturer had embraced a slightly better standard
than VESA, or some such. There may be some hardware out there that
does not have "closed" graphics.

In a perfect world, that would be an opportunity, but it seems we're
not there yet,

Lucio.



Re: [9fans] Plan 9 potential target ports (Was: PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!))

2018-10-12 Thread hiro
i have heard the name olimex in this context, too.

a big problem with all alternatives is often that graphics or video
decoding require binary firmware, or work only on linux, and no
documentation exists from the chip vendors.

i think generally there's a lot of low-power linux stuff to chose
from, but once you plan to port plan9 to it, the fragmented nature of
the arm platforms becomes a problem. no free lunch :(