Re: [9fans] Tvx update

2010-05-27 Thread Chad Brown
On May 26, 2010, at 10:48 PM, ron minnich wrote:

 Don't change your use of symlinks. I meant more as a global thing: see
 Korn's paper Symlinks are a botch.

Can I beg a specific title or reference?  My efforts with google turned up 
primarily references to your original post (and a former US Ambassador to Togo).

Thank you,
*Chad




Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread Chad Brown
I'm vaguely affiliated with MIT still via their student computing group (SIPB). 
 
We've looked into convention/event support at MIT before, and the bottom
line is that such things really need a professor or department head as a 
sponsor.  

*Chad


On May 13, 2010, at 11:16 AM, EBo wrote:

 SeaTac.
 
 Has anyone talked to Google about hosting it?
 
 Chad, are you still with MIT?  Would a Boston/MIT opportunity be
 available?
 
  EBo 


Re: [9fans] 9vx patch to read environment var PLAN9

2010-04-15 Thread Chad Brown
Clearly, this calls for an XML-based configuration file, setting the 
environment of each program at startup by patching gnulibc.

I didn't have the energy to make a forced acronym for `bloat', so let's just 
assume I did and that I suggested the configuration files live in /etc/bloat, 
ok?

*Chad


Re: [9fans] recreational programming of an evening

2010-03-22 Thread Chad Brown
On Mar 22, 2010, at 9:09 AM, David Leimbach wrote:

 It's fun to look back and see what people thought was going to be the 
 programming model we're being faced with though.  

When linux was first released, I remember people being surprised that GNU 
(which was still claiming to be working on at least two kernels) had 
*competition*.  I also remember when the core linux hackers thought that 386BSD 
was going to `win' (in the end-days of ``all the world's a VAX'', that must 
have seemed comforting), and that they really only needed to survive long 
enough for that to happen.  Computing history is a funny place.

*Chad


Re: [9fans] recreational programming of an evening

2010-03-22 Thread Chad Brown
 When linux was first released, I remember people being surprised that GNU 
 (which was still claiming to be working on at least two kernels) had 
 *competition*.  I also remember when the core linux hackers thought that 
 386BSD was going to `win' (in the end-days of ``all the world's a VAX'', that 
 must have seemed comforting), and that they really only needed to survive 
 long enough for that to happen.  Computing history is a funny place.

That should have been ``some of the core linux hackers'', of course.  Mea culpa.

*Chad




Re: [9fans] Collaborative Sam?

2010-03-15 Thread Chad Brown
Have you read ``The Text Editor Sam'', by Rob Pike?  
(http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/sam/)

A quick re-skim (especially around page 22) or so suggests that you'd want to 
look at the code for sam -r, and that you'll want to dig into the Rasp data 
structure, but (contrary to my memory), it might be possible without breaking 
the existing protocol.

Good luck!
*Chad


Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

2009-07-15 Thread Chad Brown

Emacs is great for writing Lisp. Now, if only I could find the correct
.emacs invocation to make the tab key insert a tab character in C
mode, rather than a bunch of spaces the way His Holy Lunacy RMS
desires. If I wanted spaces instead of tabs, I'd type them!


OT for the list, but this is trivial in emacs for several years now,  
and RMS has nothing to do with the special code for C mode (which is  
called CC-mode, and supports a bevy of languages, and is complicated  
enough that it can probably boot minix on it's own by now).


*Chad



Re: [9fans] Fonts

2009-07-09 Thread Chad Brown

On Jul 9, 2009, at 3:02 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:

; hget  http://google.gr/
!doctype htmlhtmlheadmeta http-equiv=content-type  
content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-7


i'm pretty sure that ISO-8859-7 != utf-8.


I guess that's server-side mucking about based on user-agent not  
reporting utf-8 capability or something stupid.  Firefox page info  
feature reports the page as utf-8, and on inspection of the source:


!doctype htmlhtmlheadmeta http-equiv=content-type  
content=text/html; charset=UTF-8


I wonder if there's some 'prefered encoding' message the UA can send  
to the server.


Accept-Charset is the http header that you want, but to do it `right'  
you probably want to muck about with http's q-value weighting system.   
The shorter form is that you'll have to tell the server you're ok with  
UTF, or it'll fall back to it's best-guess techniques, with the  
default fallback of iso-8859.


*Chad


Re: [9fans] noweb and literal programming

2009-04-10 Thread Chad Brown
I believe that Cweb/Ctangle were `engineering tradeoffs' -- i.e.  
concessions to the large number of people who didn't care about the  
theory or the practice of programming and just wanted to use TeX  
(mostly AMSTeX) on whatever new system their math/physics department  
happened to buy that year.


On Apr 10, 2009, at 4:50 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote:

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

Hello,

I've been thinking about 'well documented programs' and come across
the 'noweb' program.
Do you have any experience with literal programming and,  
particularly, noweb?

(I noticed at least rsc seems to have played with it back in the year
2000. He programmed some scripts to use the system in Plan9...)

Thanks
Ruda



Just curious... what's the relation to Cweb and Ctangle (the ones  
Knuth uses)?


From what I've heard of those (even from Knuth himself) is that
they're too ugly to use very much, and fits well with Knuth's style,
which is mostly the giant blob of code style.