Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
[9f...@hamnavoe.com]
> if (~ $dests *9fans@9fans.net*) {
> sed '1,/^$/s/^(From:
> .*)/\1<9f...@hamnavoe.com>/' | upas/send $options $dests
> exit
> }
Testing this. Please ignore!
--
9fans: 9fans
Permalink:
https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-Mc321323a9ec838892c1699f2
Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
[9f...@hamnavoe.com]
> if (~ $dests *9fans@9fans.net*) {
> sed '1,/^$/s/^(From:
> .*)/\1<9f...@hamnavoe.com>/' | upas/send $options $dests
> exit
> }
Testing this. Please ignore!
--
9fans: 9fans
Permalink:
https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M8fc8533a2ff1c4146ab70e8f
Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
I adjusted my pipefrom and added a default headers file, so lets see if this mail arrives with the correct sender address. sirjofri -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M04588c03da9bb1dd498869da Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
> Yes -- acme Mail does set its own From lines, That's overridden by the From: in /mail/box/$user/headers if there is one. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M2a226e6597f51a79af81687b Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
Quoth pouya+lists.9f...@nohup.io: > I should take a closer look but I seem to recall some special handling > of From: lines in acme Mail. Yes -- acme Mail does set its own From lines, among other things that annoyed me. (That's why I rewrote it as Nail: less cleverness, less code, and thread sorting of messages: http://shithub.us/git/ori/Nail/HEAD/info.html) -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M48282505705f74d696f14d48 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
> Quoth pouya+lists.9f...@nohup.io:
>> Upas/marshal already supports that by setting the upasname env
>> variable, or did you mean to have it as a flag or taken from the
>> headers in the input?
>
> I was thinking that
>
> echo From: foo; message | upas/marshal
>
> should be roughly equivalent to:
>
> upasname=foo
> echo message | upas/marshal
>
> but it may be better to just use a pipefrom.
Take what I say with a big a grain of salt--I set it up months ago and
haven't considered it again after Ori's re-work in 9front on
mail-related things. I am not using my own smtp server, but call out
to different ones based on the address I'm using.
For my setup, I had to set both the env var and add the 'From:' line,
IIRC. I have wrapper scripts that I can click on to send an e-mail
while in Acme, specifying which account I want to send from. It's
probably more convoluted than it needs to be, but I just wanted to get
mail working on 9front. So in my wrapper script I setup upasname env
var and also start off the message with a 'From:' line:
upasname=mya...@example.com
echo From: Myname '<'^$upasname^'>' >/tmp/from.$upasname
mailfrom $upasname $*
The last call to mailfrom calls /bin/mailfrom, which contains this:
#!/bin/rc
upasname=$1
shift
if (~ $winid '')
err=`{echo -n Cannot find window id}
if (! test -d /mnt/acme/^$winid)
err=`{echo -n usage: Must be run in Acme}
if (~ $upasname '')
err=`{echo -n usage: Must set upasname}
if (! ~ $err '') {
echo $err
status=$err
exit
}
if (! test -f /tmp/from.$upasname)
echo From: $upasname >/tmp/from.$upasname
cat /tmp/from.$upasname /mnt/acme/$winid/body | upas/marshal -8 $*
rm /tmp/from.$upasname
/mail/lib/fromfiles contains one line, which refers to
/mail/lib/from.me:
from.me
/mail/lib/from.me has lines with tab-separated values between the
e-mail from address I use ($upasname) and the mail account
corresponding to it:
myacct+bi...@example.com myacco...@smtp1.example.com
mya...@example.com myotheracco...@smtp2.example.com
In /mail/lib/remotemail, I have cases for the different smtp servers:
#!/bin/rc
shift
sender=$1
shift
addr=$1
shift
fd=`{/bin/upas/aliasmail -f $sender}
switch($fd){
case smtp1.example.com
addr=(-u user1 tcp!^$fd^!ssmtp)
case smtp2.example.com
addr=(-u user2 tcp!^$fd^!ssmtp)
case *.*
;
case *
fd=your.domain
}
exec /bin/upas/smtp -a -t -h $fd $addr $sender $*
Hopefully what I wrote above is more helpful than not.
--
9fans: 9fans
Permalink:
https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T98f57a87714768fb-M0906a3667a2e63e9683b92ea
Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
Quoth pouya+lists.9f...@nohup.io: > Upas/marshal already supports that by setting the upasname env > variable, or did you mean to have it as a flag or taken from the > headers in the input? I was thinking that echo From: foo; message | upas/marshal should be roughly equivalent to: upasname=foo echo message | upas/marshal but it may be better to just use a pipefrom. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-Mf9ca9343908333d4f0ee2381 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
Thank you all for your feedback. I have combined my answers to a few responses below. > [pouya+lists.9f...@nohup.io] >> I was looking for a way to send emails from different addresses with >> Acme Mail [9f...@hamnavoe.com] > That's what /mail/box/$user/pipefrom is for. (Not specific to acme.) > Thank you. This seems much more elegant than my hack as a general solution. [o...@eigenstate.org] > The ability is useful, but the code to do it would be better > placed in upas/marshal. Upas/marshal already supports that by setting the upasname env variable, or did you mean to have it as a flag or taken from the headers in the input? [sirjofri+ml-9f...@sirjofri.de] > Please double-check this. When I add a From: in acme Mail it's always > converted to a destination address. I should take a closer look but I seem to recall some special handling of From: lines in acme Mail. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M369ccb4d68423425cdbc7b2c Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
> Please double-check this. When I add a From: in acme Mail it's always > converted to a destination address. Perhaps that's a quirk of acme Mail? Works for me with Nail and marshal(1). -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M8b6112fb6fbd7db80864a385 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
28.01.2021 11:09:20 Alex Musolino : I'd love this functionality in marshal. Would it then also work in Nail? (No crazy filtering in Nail?) Would a potential marshal patch be applied to 9front? I think it's a nice feature and prevents setting $upasname before starting [MN]ail. Also I don't think it would change existing behavior too much. Seems it's already in 9front. I can just write my own custom From: header with Nail or marshal(1). I've never had much reason to change it so I just put the From: header you see in this message in /mail/box/alex/headers. Please double-check this. When I add a From: in acme Mail it's always converted to a destination address. sirjofri -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-Mbb7bec0ac40927d1898f4023 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
> I'd love this functionality in marshal. Would it then also work in Nail? > (No crazy filtering in Nail?) > > Would a potential marshal patch be applied to 9front? I think it's a nice > feature and prevents setting $upasname before starting [MN]ail. Also I > don't think it would change existing behavior too much. Seems it's already in 9front. I can just write my own custom From: header with Nail or marshal(1). I've never had much reason to change it so I just put the From: header you see in this message in /mail/box/alex/headers. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-Mdb59c076a394500b1c5aa9bf Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
> I was looking for a way to send emails from different addresses with
> Acme Mail
That's what /mail/box/$user/pipefrom is for. (Not specific to acme.)
For example, my pipefrom includes this:
if (~ $dests *9fans@9fans.net*) {
sed '1,/^$/s/^(From: .*)/\1<9f...@hamnavoe.com>/'
| upas/send $options $dests
exit
}
If I want to do a one-off send from an alias, I edit /mail/box/$user/headers
temporarily
to add a From: line.
--
9fans: 9fans
Permalink:
https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M4fbfe6f68cec56aa2be364b8
Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
Hey ori, I'd love this functionality in marshal. Would it then also work in Nail? (No crazy filtering in Nail?) Would a potential marshal patch be applied to 9front? I think it's a nice feature and prevents setting $upasname before starting [MN]ail. Also I don't think it would change existing behavior too much. sirjofri -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M9af929b66a9f4c6dea0270cb Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
Quoth pouya+lists.9f...@nohup.io: > I was looking for a way to send emails from different addresses with > Acme Mail, as I use + address suffixes to sort incoming mail and > occasionally need to send emails from the same (e.g. to this mailing > list). Not finding a convenient way, I committed a bad hack to > include an optional From: line in the header of outgoing messages. > It's available at > > 9p.io/sources/contrib/pdt/acme/mail > > in case someone might find it useful (or be kind enough to tell me > this is not the right way to do it). > The ability is useful, but the code to do it would be better placed in upas/marshal. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M45b4767d3b572a1f2d04a7b9 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] Acme Mail editable from address
I was looking for a way to send emails from different addresses with Acme Mail, as I use + address suffixes to sort incoming mail and occasionally need to send emails from the same (e.g. to this mailing list). Not finding a convenient way, I committed a bad hack to include an optional From: line in the header of outgoing messages. It's available at 9p.io/sources/contrib/pdt/acme/mail in case someone might find it useful (or be kind enough to tell me this is not the right way to do it). Pouya -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9469a3ec554967c5-M059a7a0d5e206cd7b9c25ef2 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] acme/Mail setup on plan9port
Hi, I followed Mathieu's instructions in this previous discussion[1]. mailfs reports an imapconnect success. But acme Mail command gives an error: Mail: cannot mount mail: dial ... /tmp/ns.rkrishnan.:0/mail: No such file or directory. Indeed, I see only 3 files in the /tmp/ns.rkrishnan.:0 directory: factotum, plumb, acme. Can someone anyone help me? I am on Debian GNU/Linux, running plan9port from the latest hg. I had to add a linker path to make upas to compile. My changes are here[2]. [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.plan9/-vzwp6GweH0%5B1-25-false%5D [2] https://bitbucket.org/vu3rdd/plan9port/commits/89e77038bdd228c5def5f6fcb2b53a186825d144 -- Ramakrishnan
Re: [9fans] acme/Mail sorted by replies(threaded)
Hi, Try to set an environment variable upasname before upas/smtp executing (I set it before acme), but it should be m...@some.com, not 'alias' m...@some.com. upas/marshal takes a user from upasname too. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:43 PM, uvelichi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just now write that in acme [full text editor with undo etc.]. I setup stunnel using your recipe, thanks for publishing it. Maybe you also know where to point acme/Mail or upas/smtp to insert in 'From:' header funny 'nice uvel'm...@some.com instead of $u...@domain.dom? In which rc files it can be done or it need be hardcoded? As for threading, I localize my changes to acme/Mail in only two functions and try do things in the way natural for original code, so you can easy mk install and try to see how it looks, don't forget -t flag for threading. Best regards. Hello, I just want to say it makes me feel better to see someone is trying to improve Mail. I've been using Mail for some time in parallel with the gmail web interface. (Basically, I prefer to write an email within acme [full text editor with undo etc.], but searching for a conversation is just simpler in the web interface. Also, it happens to me from time to time, that email is not actually sent from within acme (due to some lost connection, stunnel, ...), so I nearly always check the situation with the web interface). I hope I will try your work at some point. Note also there was a message about 'amail' quite recently. Finally, as far as I can tell, writing a threaded view can be be tricky: http://mandrillapp.com/track/click.php?u=30146375id=35be47b5b7dd4d84a0b4eaa38a5b17b9url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jwz.org%2Fdoc%2Fthreading.htmlurl_id=d540878ee7743a86723ed03cbffa32dd6b47ed7b Thanks Ruda On 10 February 2014 21:33, Uvelichitel uvelichi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I know at least one implementation exist before http://mandrillapp.com/track/click.php?u=30146375id=35be47b5b7dd4d84a0b4eaa38a5b17b9url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fmpl%2Facmemail-with-sort-by-threadurl_id=7983b0540dd0bc52b3c6cda1acff61b742eb32a9. It based on Subject header comparison. So I write another one based on MessageID and Inreplayto headers. http://mandrillapp.com/track/click.php?u=30146375id=35be47b5b7dd4d84a0b4eaa38a5b17b9url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fuvelichitel%2Fmailurl_id=203c219a5344874c12e2fc4a73a2c8513a39edd4 You can mk install. Flag -t added for threading. Tested on p9p. Fill free to try. Feedback appreciated. Best regards. -- Best regards, santucco
Re: [9fans] acme/Mail sorted by replies(threaded)
Try to set an environment variable upasname before upas/smtp executing (I set it before acme), but it should be m...@some.com, not 'alias' m...@some.com. upas/marshal takes a user from upasname too. i'm not sure how this works in p9p, but in plan 9, /mail/box/$user/headers is prepended to the headers. you can set From: or any other header field here. special processing in marshal will weed out redundant headers, favoring the pre-set ones. - erik
Re: [9fans] acme/Mail sorted by replies(threaded)
I just want to say it makes me feel better to see someone is trying to improve Mail. I've been using Mail for some time in parallel with the gmail web interface. (Basically, I prefer to write an email within acme [full text editor with undo etc.], but searching for a conversation is just simpler in the web interface. Also, it happens to me from time to time, that email is not actually sent from within acme (due to some lost connection, stunnel, ...), so I nearly always check the situation with the web interface). not sure if this applies to p9p, but ned (mail with no arguments on plan 9) is really good for finding stuff. g/sender/h is typically enough to find mail from a particular person. and there are other options that search particular header fields, or the body. i prefer the unix-style interface to search boxes. unfortunately the results of a search are not themselves a mailbox. - erik
Re: [9fans] acme/Mail sorted by replies(threaded)
I just want to say it makes me feel better to see someone is trying to improve Mail. I've been using Mail for some time in parallel with the gmail web interface. (Basically, I prefer to write an email within acme [full text editor with undo etc.], but searching for a conversation is just simpler in the web interface. Also, it happens to me from time to time, that email is not actually sent from within acme (due to some lost connection, stunnel, ...), so I nearly always check the situation with the web interface). not sure if this applies to p9p, but ned (mail with no arguments on plan 9) is really good for finding stuff. g/sender/h is typically enough to find mail from a particular person. and there are other options that search particular header fields, or the body. i prefer the unix-style interface to search boxes. unfortunately the results of a search are not themselves a mailbox. - erik ned compiles on p9p, also p9p acme/Mail this days get Search command based on imap service and producing mbox. - uvelichitel
[9fans] acme/Mail sorted by replies(threaded)
Hi. I know at least one implementation exist before https://bitbucket.org/mpl/acmemail-with-sort-by-thread. It based on Subject header comparison. So I write another one based on MessageID and Inreplayto headers. https://bitbucket.org/uvelichitel/mail You can mk install. Flag -t added for threading. Tested on p9p. Fill free to try. Feedback appreciated. Best regards.
Re: [9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS
Hi, On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.net wrote: Hi everyone, I'm trying (just for the sake of getting it to work!) to read my (imap) mail via acme from plan9ports. I got the mail file server started in my namespace (I can 9p ls mail and see my folders in INBOX for my work account, but I can't get gmail to work... Probably needs TLS support and if I understood correctly, plan9port does not have TLS yet.) TLS is supported in plan9port's mailfs via stunnel, but it is quite old version of stunnel - 3.x (I have stunnel 3.26). You should just specify a flag -t for mailfs. It exellent works with gmail for me. Problem is, if I middle-click on Mail in the main tag in Acme, I am greeted by: Mail: exit 1 No mail for ruben I'm sure your 'Mail' is not plan9port's Mail. Type 'type Mail' and you will find something like 'Mail is /usr/bin/Mail' You should set a path to plan9port binares before $PATH or start Mail via '9 Mail' -- Best regards, santucco
Re: [9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS
On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:56:42 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: I'm sure your 'Mail' is not plan9port's Mail. Type 'type Mail' and you will find something like 'Mail is /usr/bin/Mail' You should set a path to plan9port binares before $PATH or start Mail via '9 Mail' This is the way to go. The filesystem on OSX is case-insensitive. What Rubén saw as /usr/bin/Mail and /usr/bin/mail are the same file. Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK Keywords: Cc: -- Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK d.h.da...@bath.ac.uk
Re: [9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS
On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:42:14 AM UTC-4, Steve McCoy wrote: … I don't know who that Dennis guy is, or why his info got added to my email. Could this be a side effect of using Google groups to reply? [ Moderators note: Apologies. The comp.os.plan9 is a moderated Newsgroup and articles need to be approved before being posted. As moderator I forgot to remove my details before doing this in this case. It has nothing to do with Google groups. I must try harder :-( ]
Re: [9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS
:) mail groups have these fun side effects. Although I controlled my /bin/Mail spurious program, the problem is I still can't get anything from my gmail account: mailfs -t imap.gmail.com mailfs: imapconnect: Unknown error: 0 Since it is an unknown error, I can't really tell what may be going on. Factotum is running supposedly with the correct credentials, the password for it is correct, just in case I installed stunnel, and I have IMAP activated in my gmail account. Out of ideas, will try again in the future. Thanks everyone ;) Ruben On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Steve McCoy mcco...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:42:14 AM UTC-4, Steve McCoy wrote: … I don't know who that Dennis guy is, or why his info got added to my email. Could this be a side effect of using Google groups to reply? [ Moderators note: Apologies. The comp.os.plan9 is a moderated Newsgroup and articles need to be approved before being posted. As moderator I forgot to remove my details before doing this in this case. It has nothing to do with Google groups. I must try harder :-( ]
[9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS
Hi again, I kind of figured what the problem may be last night before falling asleep. At first I thought it may be because I use zsh as shell, and it has this funny thing about changing uppercase for lowercase in case of need (which may shadow Mail as a shell command to execute /usr/bin/mail from within acme.) Turns out I was almost right. When I checked, I found in fact I had /usr/bin/Mail as a copy (or symlink, I'm not sure) of /usr/bin/mail. I moved it (just in case it's useful for some reason I'm not aware of) and started all servers again (factotum, mailfs, plumber) just in case. Now, from the command line Mail works (uses nedmail) and gives me a prompt to interact with my mail box: 253 messages : b (prints 10 headers as expected) If I try to open Mail inside acme it does nothing: opens a +Errors window with 253 messages : and stops at it. At least this is closer to getting mail working! Thanks for any suggestion, Ruben
[9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS
Hi everyone, I'm trying (just for the sake of getting it to work!) to read my (imap) mail via acme from plan9ports. I got the mail file server started in my namespace (I can 9p ls mail and see my folders in INBOX for my work account, but I can't get gmail to work... Probably needs TLS support and if I understood correctly, plan9port does not have TLS yet.) Problem is, if I middle-click on Mail in the main tag in Acme, I am greeted by: Mail: exit 1 No mail for ruben ruben is my local user name, which is different from my imap login name. Looks like Mail is executing the mail command instead of using Acme/Mail. How can I get Acme/Mail to understand where to fetch mail? I thought it would be automatic, getting it via the mail file server but looks like it doesn't. Oh, I have the plumber (and factotum) also running, both seem to be working correctly (at least I can plumb things and they work.) Any suggestions? Thanks, Ruben Berenguel
Re: [9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS
This is just a guess, but what does your $PATH look like? On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.net wrote: Hi everyone, I'm trying (just for the sake of getting it to work!) to read my (imap) mail via acme from plan9ports. I got the mail file server started in my namespace (I can 9p ls mail and see my folders in INBOX for my work account, but I can't get gmail to work... Probably needs TLS support and if I understood correctly, plan9port does not have TLS yet.) Problem is, if I middle-click on Mail in the main tag in Acme, I am greeted by: Mail: exit 1 No mail for ruben ruben is my local user name, which is different from my imap login name. Looks like Mail is executing the mail command instead of using Acme/Mail. How can I get Acme/Mail to understand where to fetch mail? I thought it would be automatic, getting it via the mail file server but looks like it doesn't. Oh, I have the plumber (and factotum) also running, both seem to be working correctly (at least I can plumb things and they work.) Any suggestions? Thanks, Ruben Berenguel
Re: [9fans] acme Mail and several folders; caching
Finally (but not so importantly), has anyone considered some caching (as eg. mutt does)? Loading the 'plan9' folder from gmail takes well about a minute. the upas/fs in contrib quanstro/nupas does do caching. it was written become i had a few users with 500mb mailboxes, and since access was slow (the file server had a couple 100gb ide disks), the imap mail client timed out and opened the mail box again. since the file server didn't have more than ~100 mb of buffers, this would make the second download slower. rince, rather, repeat until the mail host goes boom. - erik
Re: [9fans] acme Mail and several folders; caching
Also, it now seems to me, that having two folders open and sending a *single* message from acme results in the message being sent twice... Sorry for the inconvenience, but it wasn't done on purpose. Ruda
Re: [9fans] acme mail arrival time wrong in faces
Hi, I'm based in Ukraine and the other week we put our clocks one hour forward to do to daylight savings. The time got updated everywhere else but in the faces. When an email arrives, the time it arrived is ok in acme mail, but not in faces. Can anyone please suggest how to correct that. Thanks. Sasha Kapshuk.
Re: [9fans] acme mail arrival time wrong in faces
The time got updated everywhere else but in the faces. When an email arrives, the time it arrived is ok in acme mail, but not in faces. if $timezone differs for faces, then it will display different times/dates. if you change the timezone, did you resart faces? both acme Mail and faces believe whatever upas/fs tells 'em. - erik
Re: [9fans] acme mail arrival time wrong in faces
On 04/02/2011 05:33 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: The time got updated everywhere else but in the faces. When an email arrives, the time it arrived is ok in acme mail, but not in faces. if $timezone differs for faces, then it will display different times/dates. if you change the timezone, did you resart faces? both acme Mail and faces believe whatever upas/fs tells 'em. - erik thanks for getting back to me, erik. i'll have to look into what was changed in the system settings as far as the timezone goes. i'll check the settings you suggested checking and let you know if i'm still having trouble with it. sasha.
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
On Tue May 25 21:56:49 EDT 2010, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: Nedmail and acme Mail are operating on the same mailbox, and nedmail already has a nice language built in. Back when I did that sort of thing, I found it easy to just fire up nedmail in a shell window. But ultimatly this sort of functionality should be in upas/fs itself, driven by commands written to /mail/fs/ctl. i'd like to disagree, and say this is a ui (ned/Mail/imap4 client) problem, but the current setup is already less than optimal. admittedly, minooka is no longer a fast machine, but here's a fairly generic mailbox in use every day minooka; time upas/fs -pf /mail/box/xx/mbox 1.12u 0.14s 3.23rupas/fs -pf /mail/box/xx/mbox minooka; echo q | time upas/nedmail 22875 messages : 0.40u 2.95s 8.56r upas/nedmail that's a pretty long wait for ned to get the skinny on the 22875th message, which i have an approximately 0.27182% chance of reading. if you don't care about fast, at just over 1k of memory/message, ned is using 28mb of memory. that seems like a lot when i haven't looked at any messages. it makes more sense to get the skinny on the next n messages, akin to page's cache. but in order to do that, the next n messages need to be obvious without poking through the whole pile in order to sort. which leads us directly to lyndon's point. - erik
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
it makes more sense to get the skinny on the next n messages, akin to page's cache. but in order to do that, the next n messages need to be obvious without poking through the whole pile in order to sort. This is exactly why IMAPs Thread and Sort extensions are such a big win. Note that upas wouldn't necessarily have to re-order /mail/fs/mbox in place. Another possibility would be to have a 'sort' file that you would write a sort request to, then read to get the list of filenames under /mail/fs returned ordered by the sort. E.g. if /mail/fs/mbox contains messages 1, 3 45, and 92, open /mail/fs/sort write recvtime reversed read close might return 92\n45\n3\n1\n. There's a lot of room for experimentation here.
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
This is exactly why IMAPs Thread and Sort extensions are such a big win. they couldn't do everything wrong. - erik
[9fans] Acme Mail
is there a way to mark *all* messages in a mail box for later processing - e.g. Delmesg. in nedmail one can do g/pattern/d unfortunately Edit ,x/pattern/ --+ marks only one.
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
Edit , selects the whole thing doesn't it? When I want to clear out an entire Acme window I just do Edit ,d for example. I don't really use Acme Mail though, so I'm unsure of what the difference is in marking vs selecting Daev On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: is there a way to mark *all* messages in a mail box for later processing - e.g. Delmesg. in nedmail one can do g/pattern/d unfortunately Edit ,x/pattern/ --+ marks only one.
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
is there a way to mark *all* messages in a mail box for later processing - e.g. Delmesg. in nedmail one can do g/pattern/d unfortunately Edit ,x/pattern/ --+ marks only one. what about: Edit s:^[0-9].*$:(deleted-):g nupas Mail has a nonstandard Save in the main window. iirc, adding commands to the main screen did take a bit of code. so running ned might be easier for some tasks. - erik
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
sorry, i meant all messages meeting a pattern in the subject line. combining your suggestion with pattern marking works correctly: Edit ,x/pattern/ --+ s/^[0-9]+/(deleted)-/ is there a way to mark *all* messages in a mail box for later processing - e.g. Delmesg. in nedmail one can do g/pattern/d unfortunately Edit ,x/pattern/ --+ marks only one. what about: Edit s:^[0-9].*$:(deleted-):g nupas Mail has a nonstandard Save in the main window. iirc, adding commands to the main screen did take a bit of code. so running ned might be easier for some tasks. - erik
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
i was wrong; it doesn't work. Put doesn't actually delete the messages. i think this will require mods to /acme/mail/src/mail.c sorry, i meant all messages meeting a pattern in the subject line. combining your suggestion with pattern marking works correctly: Edit ,x/pattern/ --+ s/^[0-9]+/(deleted)-/ is there a way to mark *all* messages in a mail box for later processing - e.g. Delmesg. in nedmail one can do g/pattern/d unfortunately Edit ,x/pattern/ --+ marks only one. what about: Edit s:^[0-9].*$:(deleted-):g nupas Mail has a nonstandard Save in the main window. iirc, adding commands to the main screen did take a bit of code. so running ned might be easier for some tasks. - erik
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: i was wrong; it doesn't work. Put doesn't actually delete the messages. i think this will require mods to /acme/mail/src/mail.c we had a back and forth a long time ago about this. I wanted a way to match a subject and delete all messages on that subject. There was no apparent way. the conclusion was that we needed a way to say middle button action in a command line. Russ kindly offered to take a patch if someone would write it. So we could say something like x/viagra/whatever where whatever corresponded to 'middle-button-Del' or some such. You can't just change what's in the window AFAIK. That's a reflection of state, not the state itself. ron
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
You can't just change what's in the window AFAIK. That's a reflection
of state, not the state itself.
Mail's inspection of the selection confused me
try typing (deleted- in front of a message. now
try deleting it by selecting that line and b2ing
Delmesg.
Nothing happens.
i can't find the discussion, so i hope this isn't
a repeat of wild speculation.
it would be cool if acme had an edit command
that would allow the executation of an
acme command on the given selection. suppose
!| executed acme commands rather than plan
9 commands. then you could have
Edit X:/mail/fs: ,x:^.*$: g:u.example.com: !Delmsg
- erik
p.s. don't try substituing | for ! in the above command:
qunlock called qith qlock not held , from 0x1f350.
/sys/src/cmd/acme/wind.c:165
160 */
161f = w-body.file;
162for(i=f-ntext-1; i=0; i--){
163w = f-text[i]-w;
164w-owner = 0;
165qunlock(w);
☺
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
I had only replied to the OP because I didn't think other people could be interested, and I had announced it a while ago already, but here goes again, just in case. I patched p9p acme Mail to have a sort by conversation/subject (http://codereview.appspot.com/264043/show), so if what you want is being able to delete a bunch of messages with the same subject it's very easy to do in one mouse swipe once they're all grouped together by this sort. Of course that does not really help with spam because they won't have the same subject, only similar ones all matching viagra, as in your example. I've been using it the whole time since then, no issue so far. Hope that helps, Mathieu ---BeginMessage--- On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: i was wrong; it doesn't work. Put doesn't actually delete the messages. i think this will require mods to /acme/mail/src/mail.c we had a back and forth a long time ago about this. I wanted a way to match a subject and delete all messages on that subject. There was no apparent way. the conclusion was that we needed a way to say middle button action in a command line. Russ kindly offered to take a patch if someone would write it. So we could say something like x/viagra/whatever where whatever corresponded to 'middle-button-Del' or some such. You can't just change what's in the window AFAIK. That's a reflection of state, not the state itself. ron ---End Message---
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
thanks. that will go a long way toward what i need. hopefully the patch is easy to apply to the latest Plan9 sources. I had only replied to the OP because I didn't think other people could be interested, and I had announced it a while ago already, but here goes again, just in case. I patched p9p acme Mail to have a sort by conversation/subject (http://codereview.appspot.com/264043/show), so if what you want is being able to delete a bunch of messages with the same subject it's very easy to do in one mouse swipe once they're all grouped together by this sort. Of course that does not really help with spam because they won't have the same subject, only similar ones all matching viagra, as in your example. I've been using it the whole time since then, no issue so far. Hope that helps, Mathieu
Re: [9fans] Acme Mail
thanks. that will go a long way toward what i need. hopefully the patch is easy to apply to the latest Plan9 sources. If you make any modifications to Mathieu's patch for p9p, in order to apply it to Plan 9, then could you please post the new patch sources somewhere? I could definitely make use of such work. Best, ak
