Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Raschke
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:

 SeaForth is dead already

 http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm

 http://colorforth.com/S40.htm


These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 -
2 years ago about the patent issues surrounding Chuck Moore's work. So
I'm wondering if this info is outdated. The Forth Usernet group seems
to indicate that these chips are fine and dandy.

Robby



Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread Alexander Clouter
Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:

 SeaForth is dead already

 http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm

 http://colorforth.com/S40.htm

 
 These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 -
 2 years ago about the patent issues surrounding Chuck Moore's work. So
 I'm wondering if this info is outdated. The Forth Usernet group seems
 to indicate that these chips are fine and dandy.
 
For whatever it's worth:

a...@berk:~$ wget -S --spider http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2009-04-07 11:47:19--  http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
Resolving colorforth.com... 207.217.125.50
Connecting to colorforth.com|207.217.125.50|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:47:20 GMT
  Server: Apache
  Last-Modified: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:52:50 GMT 
  ETag: 2e6982-849-49da5d92
  Accept-Ranges: bytes
  Content-Length: 2121
  Keep-Alive: timeout=10, max=100
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Content-Type: text/html
Length: 2121 (2.1K) [text/html]
Remote file exists and could contain further links,
but recursion is disabled -- not retrieving.

a...@berk:~$ wget -S --spider http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2009-04-07 11:47:21--  http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
Resolving colorforth.com... 207.217.125.50
Connecting to colorforth.com|207.217.125.50|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:47:21 GMT
  Server: Apache
  Last-Modified: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:48:29 GMT ---
  ETag: 172cd95-688-49da5c8d
  Accept-Ranges: bytes
  Content-Length: 1672
  Keep-Alive: timeout=10, max=100
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Content-Type: text/html
Length: 1672 (1.6K) [text/html]
Remote file exists and could contain further links,
but recursion is disabled -- not retrieving.


Cheers

-- 
Alexander Clouter
.sigmonster says: You will receive a legacy which will place you above want.




Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread maht


These docs aren't dated. 


they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL 
pulled funding  and sacked Moore




Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Raschke
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, maht mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:

 These docs aren't dated.

 they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL
 pulled funding  and sacked Moore


Catching up with my online reading and the Forth group is indeed full
of this since the weekend.

It is just weird, all very deja vu. The previous generation of Moore's
designs went through a similar quagmire to nowhere.

Robby



Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread maht



It is just weird, all very deja vu. The previous generation of Moore's
designs went through a similar quagmire to nowhere.

Robby


  

poor man, how stressful is that !




Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-06 Thread maht


SeaForth is dead already

http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm

http://colorforth.com/S40.htm


Bruce Ellis wrote:

Please share your experience.

http://groups.google.com/group/casella

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote:
  

I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year.
We are testing it for a signal processing.

I can confirm it is a wonderful chip.
But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-)

Pavel






  





Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-06 Thread Jeff Sickel

It's just a flesh wound.

On Apr 6, 2009, at 1:00 PM, maht mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:


SeaForth is dead already

http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm

http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
















Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
What a shame - tho there is a certain charm in owning a custom
computer that can't be replicated. Hopefully there will be a firesale
of stuff. There can't be many in the wild, mine is serial number 30 -
what's your Jeff?

brucee

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:00 AM, maht mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:

 SeaForth is dead already

 http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm

 http://colorforth.com/S40.htm


 Bruce Ellis wrote:

 Please share your experience.

 http://groups.google.com/group/casella

 brucee

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
 pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year.
 We are testing it for a signal processing.

 I can confirm it is a wonderful chip.
 But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-)

 Pavel












Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New

2009-03-30 Thread Icarus Sparry
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:43:34 +, Bruce Ellis wrote:

 There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are
 needed.
 
 Feel free to join the Casella group.
 
 -- Forwarded message -- From: brucee
 bruce.el...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
 Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge To: Casella
 case...@googlegroups.com
 
 There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land. Looks
 to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means that
 Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.
 
 http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?
option=com_contenttask=viewid=60Itemid=75
 
 Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
 before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.
 
 Sounds sound.
 
 brucee

Before one spends too much time on this, I would suggest a quick visit to 
comp.lang.forth for the thread Chuck Moore news and also 
www.colorforth.com.

Clearly there are problems, and message 
7f7fc71-a87f-4d08-86c0-42d14742d...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com
asserts (without proof) that Intellasys has closed its doors for the last 
month.



Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
I don't trust penguins. But it's worth a try. I haven't installed the
linux goo on my pusbox - if tiger wasn't house trained he would do
more than bark at it when it thrashes crazy.

But yes. Read the spec and come up with ideas. Move this to Casella
group if we have enough enthusiasts.

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:47 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote:

 The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun
 and functionality.


 What do you say to a linuxemu as the first pass?  At least that keeps
 us in the realm of using the official Forth environment until we gain
 enough leverage for promoting our own tool chain...

 If that's the case, can usb/usbd; usb/disk should recognize the target well
 enough for current usage (just a FAT disk) and pass that through to
 linuxemu...

 -jas






Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
Please share your experience.

http://groups.google.com/group/casella

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year.
 We are testing it for a signal processing.

 I can confirm it is a wonderful chip.
 But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-)

 Pavel





[9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed.

Feel free to join the Casella group.

-- Forwarded message --
From: brucee bruce.el...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge
To: Casella case...@googlegroups.com

There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land.
Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means
that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.

http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=60Itemid=75

Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.

Sounds sound.

brucee



Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-18 Thread David Leimbach
Wow... 40 cores of forthy-goodness.  Makes me wish I'd spent more time with
forth than I have so far (well almost).
Dave

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed.

 Feel free to join the Casella group.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: brucee bruce.el...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
 Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge
 To: Casella case...@googlegroups.com

 There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land.
 Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means
 that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.


 http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=60Itemid=75

 Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
 before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.

 Sounds sound.

 brucee




Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun
and functionality.

The company is cool too. Ask me if you need a contact. I flippantly
asked for 64 cores for a chess machine. There is apparently an
unannounced board with two chips - 80 cores.

I'm not sure any human should have to program it manually so tool
fiends please collaborate on this - the linux tool kit is
unimpressive. First to glenda it wins a t-shirt.

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:36 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow... 40 cores of forthy-goodness.  Makes me wish I'd spent more time with
 forth than I have so far (well almost).
 Dave

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed.

 Feel free to join the Casella group.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: brucee bruce.el...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM
 Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge
 To: Casella case...@googlegroups.com

 There are a few of these floating around in Plan9 / Casella land.
 Looks to me like a great control chip with lotsa goodies. This means
 that Casella doesn't need another computer for control/input/output.


 http://www.intellasys.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=60Itemid=75

 Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't played with it. There will be 9P on it
 before you read this message by another keen enthusiast.

 Sounds sound.

 brucee