Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
Here's how to make a 9front iso. I would guess that building a bell labs dist is similar. http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/build -- Veety
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
Here's how to make a 9front iso. I would guess that building a bell labs dist is similar. http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/build -- Veety very good thanks, if I have problems or questions ask you something. greetings -- Cardi Francesco alias Il Parente Free Software activist CEO/President Movimento Culturale GNU CODICE LIBERO Diaspora*: https://joindiaspora.com/u/ilparente Identi.ca: https://identi.ca/cardifrancesco Jabber: ilpare...@jabber.org
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: Here's how to make a 9front iso. I would guess that building a bell labs dist is similar. http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/build -- Veety Not that similar. http://maht0x0r.blogspot.com.br/2007/11/roll-your-own-plan9-iso.html used to work for the labs version.
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:11 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: What I think people are trying to say is that this doesn't really make a lot of sense. The AMD64 system doesn't have any installer work done for it at all--I think it's not far off, but to the best of my knowledge nobody has built a CDROM that boots the 64-bit kernel and I did boot nix with the new boot loaders from a CD image, so that part worked. Erik is using a different boot loader I think, but it probably works too (it boot in 32 bit mode after all...). After booting the kernel, as Erik says, it should not be too hard. For ARM Richard Miller is doing an excellent work with his prerrolled Plan 9 images for the raspberry pi, so that is probably the way to go. G.
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
(it boot in 32 bit mode after all...). Actually 16 bit mode...
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:11 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: What I think people are trying to say is that this doesn't really make a lot of sense. The AMD64 system doesn't have any installer work done for it at all--I think it's not far off, but to the best of my knowledge nobody has built a CDROM that boots the 64-bit kernel and the 9atom cd boots to 32-bits, but the 64-bit kernels are right there. it should be no problem if you have a 64-bit capable machine to boot into a 64-bit kernel after compiling /sys/src. the reason i don't boot directly to 64-bits is because that's probablly a lot of busy work without a lot of benefit. also all 64-bit intel run 32-bit kernels, but not vice-versa. I did boot nix with the new boot loaders from a CD image, so that part worked. Erik is using a different boot loader I think, but it probably works too (it boot in 32 bit mode after all...). yes, iplpxe which really is a slight reworking of cinap's work. while it starts in 16-bit mode, it does all of its work in 32-bit segmented mode. (that is, paging is off.) it has the ability to boot 64-bit, pae or po32b. (plain old 32-bit.) the main requirement to boot 64-bit it to accept S_MAGIC. (i am still using ye olde 9load-e820 on the cd. this is laziness. it can also boot a 64-bit kernel, though. but it does not have boot menus.) After booting the kernel, as Erik says, it should not be too hard. For ARM Richard Miller is doing an excellent work with his prerrolled Plan 9 images for the raspberry pi, so that is probably the way to go. 9atom2 includes rpi. install on a 32- or 64-bit intel, and cd /sys/src; objtype=arm mk install - erik
[9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
Hello I have read many useful information on the net but I have not found specific details to create the image of plan 9 for each platform, I saw the patch applied by 9legacy but the notes are not very detailed, who can give me the documentation for create iso differ according to the architecture of use, I want to create an iso for amd64, one per atom, one for arm and finally one for powerpc, I think it's also nice that anyone can download from the internet without trying to infinity, let me know. greetings -- Cardi Francesco alias Il Parente Free Software activist CEO/President Movimento Culturale GNU CODICE LIBERO Diaspora*: https://joindiaspora.com/u/ilparente Identi.ca: https://identi.ca/cardifrancesco Jabber: ilpare...@jabber.org
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
On Wed Jan 2 13:42:10 EST 2013, cardifrance...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have read many useful information on the net but I have not found specific details to create the image of plan 9 for each platform, I saw the patch applied by 9legacy but the notes are not very detailed, who can give me the documentation for create iso differ according to the architecture of use, I want to create an iso for amd64, one per atom, one for arm and finally one for powerpc, I think it's also nice that anyone can download from the internet without trying to infinity, let me know. i currently have an iso image with amd64, arm, and 386 binaries. it's not tested because i am waiting on a sata cd drive. however, it's not clear to me that the binaries are anything but dead weight in the cd because if you can run amd64, you should be able to install as a 386 machine and compile /sys/src yourself. if you've got an arm, then i am not sure how it makes sense to boot from an iso image. how does that work. in any event, you can install on a 386 and move onto arm from there. it's probablly not ideal, but it should work. i'm wondering if the install media should contain nothing but the source, a bootstrap loader, a kernel and just enough binaries to be able to compile all the source for whatever arches you're interested in. - erik
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
i'm wondering if the install media should contain nothing but the source, a bootstrap loader, a kernel and just enough binaries to be able to compile all the source for whatever arches you're interested in. I recently put together just such a thing for arm. This set of binaries is enough to build everything else: arm - sys sys init - sys sys bin - sys sys mk - sys sys rm - sys sys echo - sys sys 5c - sys sys 5l - sys sys 5a - sys sys lex - sys sys yacc - sys sys ar - sys sys test - sys sys rc - sys sys mntgen - sys sys bind - sys sys ls - sys sys disk - sys sys fdisk - sys sys prep - sys sys grep - sys sys read - sys sys ndb - sys sys cs - sys sys dns - sys sys ip - sys sys ipconfig - sys sys aux - sys sys timesync - sys sys chmod - sys sys cat - sys sys ps - sys sys awk - sys sys sed - sys sys date - sys sys awd - sys sys cp - sys sys tr - sys sys pcc - sys sys cpp - sys sys mv - sys sys
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 01:50:23PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: i currently have an iso image with amd64, arm, and 386 binaries. it's not tested because i am waiting on a sata cd drive. [...] I have one that I'm not using, would you like me to mail it to you? pgp0dsX3RNThE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
On Wed Jan 2 14:24:50 EST 2013, sbald...@ednos.net wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 01:50:23PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: i currently have an iso image with amd64, arm, and 386 binaries. it's not tested because i am waiting on a sata cd drive. [...] I have one that I'm not using, would you like me to mail it to you? thanks, one should be coming this week. newegg has mastered the art of delaying packages the maximum amount unless you pay extra. newark gets stuff to me in 24 hrs with standard shipping. - erik
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
I think the most practical thing is to create an iso based on the specific architecture you have, you have to give me the link, the messages I have written does not give me complete information but they are only concepts, I need documntazione I want to build a iso, do not want to create a combo iso for various things -- Cardi Francesco alias Il Parente Free Software activist CEO/President Movimento Culturale GNU CODICE LIBERO Diaspora*: https://joindiaspora.com/u/ilparente Identi.ca: https://identi.ca/cardifrancesco Jabber: ilpare...@jabber.org
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
What I think people are trying to say is that this doesn't really make a lot of sense. The AMD64 system doesn't have any installer work done for it at all--I think it's not far off, but to the best of my knowledge nobody has built a CDROM that boots the 64-bit kernel and gives you the installer from there (Erik, have you done this yet?). I've never even SEEN an ARM system with a CD-ROM, and it's uncertain if a given ARM system's bootloader will support booting from a USB CD-ROM drive; it's just not how OSes are installed on ARM! john On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Francesco Cardi cardifrance...@gmail.com wrote: I think the most practical thing is to create an iso based on the specific architecture you have, you have to give me the link, the messages I have written does not give me complete information but they are only concepts, I need documntazione I want to build a iso, do not want to create a combo iso for various things -- Cardi Francesco alias Il Parente Free Software activist CEO/President Movimento Culturale GNU CODICE LIBERO Diaspora*: https://joindiaspora.com/u/ilparente Identi.ca: https://identi.ca/cardifrancesco Jabber: ilpare...@jabber.org
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
What I think people are trying to say is that this doesn't really make a lot of sense. The AMD64 system doesn't have any installer work done for it at all--I think it's not far off, but to the best of my knowledge nobody has built a CDROM that boots the 64-bit kernel and gives you the installer from there (Erik, have you done this yet?). I've never even SEEN an ARM system with a CD-ROM, and it's uncertain if a given ARM system's bootloader will support booting from a USB CD-ROM drive; it's just not how OSes are installed on ARM! operating systems such as the family has bsd iso images for architecture selection, plan 9 does not have all the iso images because it has so many volunteers, but if it is possible to compile the kernel for the amd64 architecture is also can create the iso with the new kernel loaded, the same thing is to arm, not a problem if the problem is not a CD i do not have an iso for the architecture that i use, you have the link to the documentation? -- Cardi Francesco alias Il Parente Free Software activist CEO/President Movimento Culturale GNU CODICE LIBERO Diaspora*: https://joindiaspora.com/u/ilparente Identi.ca: https://identi.ca/cardifrancesco Jabber: ilpare...@jabber.org
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
knowledge nobody has built a CDROM that boots the 64-bit kernel and gives you the installer from there (Erik, have you done this yet?). no, i don't see the point. it's a multi platform thing and there is nothing lost in installing or installing from the 32-bit binaries, even if you run a 64-bit kernel. - erik
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
it's a multi platform thing by this i mean, a big plus for plan 9 is the ability to seemlessly deal with many architectures. - erik
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
I think some of the acorn machines had CDROM drives. They can't boot from them though. On Jan 2, 2013, at 15:11, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: What I think people are trying to say is that this doesn't really make a lot of sense. The AMD64 system doesn't have any installer work done for it at all--I think it's not far off, but to the best of my knowledge nobody has built a CDROM that boots the 64-bit kernel and gives you the installer from there (Erik, have you done this yet?). I've never even SEEN an ARM system with a CD-ROM, and it's uncertain if a given ARM system's bootloader will support booting from a USB CD-ROM drive; it's just not how OSes are installed on ARM! john On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Francesco Cardi cardifrance...@gmail.com wrote: I think the most practical thing is to create an iso based on the specific architecture you have, you have to give me the link, the messages I have written does not give me complete information but they are only concepts, I need documntazione I want to build a iso, do not want to create a combo iso for various things -- Cardi Francesco alias Il Parente Free Software activist CEO/President Movimento Culturale GNU CODICE LIBERO Diaspora*: https://joindiaspora.com/u/ilparente Identi.ca: https://identi.ca/cardifrancesco Jabber: ilpare...@jabber.org
Re: [9fans] build iso's plan9 for amd64, atom, arm, powerpc
I think some of the acorn machines had CDROM drives. They can't boot from them though. right and so it's like I said, I read in the documentation that you have loaded the kernel-specific architecture along, I want to load the kernel and then create an iso with that kernel, the same thing has been made with nix-os is to plan 9 amd64. There is documentation to create the iso? -- Cardi Francesco alias Il Parente Free Software activist CEO/President Movimento Culturale GNU CODICE LIBERO Diaspora*: https://joindiaspora.com/u/ilparente Identi.ca: https://identi.ca/cardifrancesco Jabber: ilpare...@jabber.org
