Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 from an iSCSI disk

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

Use 9P instead of iSCSI. In My setup, I use small IDE Flash drives (128Mb)
They works just fine ! :)

2008/10/20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hola,

 Has anyone done this?

 I have access to a cheap hardware which could be a nice plan9 cpu server,
 the only thing does not work
 is the iSCSI disk (or i think so, look at the lspci below)

 I suppose the bios of the machine supports booting from iSCSI, so i think i
 could put a 9load or
 9pxeload there,  but 9load is not able to load a kernel from iSCSI and i
 suppose i can't instruct 9pxeload
 to boot from specific server without using bootp/dhcp to boot, right?

 any tips on how to make this little thing work? (besides writing iSCSI
 support for 9load)

 here is he lspci output (it is a dualcore atom 1.6ghz intel board, 1gb of
 ram):


 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL Memory Controller Hub
 (rev 02)
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated
 Graphics Controller (rev
 02)
 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port
 1 (rev 01)
 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port
 3 (rev 01)
 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port
 4 (rev 01)
 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
 Controller #1 (rev 01)
 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
 Controller #2 (rev 01)
 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
 Controller #3 (rev 01)
 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
 Controller #4 (rev 01)
 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI
 Controller (rev 01)
 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC
 Interface Bridge (rev 01)
 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE
 Controller (rev 01)
 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA
 IDE Controller (rev 01)
 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev
 01)
 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B
 PCI Express Gigabit
 Ethernet controller (rev 02)

 thanks

 gabi
 PS: it has an ide controller but with no disks attached






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Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Congrats !!! Plan9 on most interesting HW ! :)

2008/11/6 ron minnich [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Just booted Plan 9 on a 1024+16 node BG/P this week. .

 All credit to jmk, ericvh, and charles for this fantastic test run and
 the existence of this new kernel.

 Plan is to double it just a few times until we hit 65536 or so. Then
 the fun begins: turning on all cores, so we get to
 262144 cpus.

 Boots kinda fast, too. It's peppy. No current plans to run acme,
 though we have run rio on a bg/l cpu node in 2007, as ericvh related
 on his blog.

 managing output is interesting in this world.

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Re: [9fans] Cannot boot from:

[Sergey Zhilkin]

I am using a Dell Latitude CPx laptop, trying to install Plan 9.

Drop it to trash. Go to - http://www.richmondcomputes.org/why_thinkpad


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Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

 Also, neither you nor anyone else have addressed the question of port
 forwarding using an imported /net. Now I'm curious: do any of you 9fans have
 an internal network behind a gateway that runs Plan 9? In case you do, I'll
 be grateful if read about the configuration of your network(s).


 May be some of Bell-Labs people can talk about Plan9 :)

I'm using Inferno on my gateway, as proxy to Internet. It simply mount
remote /net (served by listen) to /net.alt

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Re: [9fans] nat

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello !

Look at 6in4(8) sources, it uses ipmux to get packets.
This will be the first step to NAT.

P.S.: I'm using hardware NAT (by Cisco)

2008/11/16 erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Obviously, a linux server is going to have a hard time importing /net
  (in a useful way, at least until Glendix gets there).

 i've got a lot of folk in the house who run whatever.
 i'd really like to decommission the non-plan 9 machine.
 the one thing i need from it is nat.  (and i don't want
 to be stuck fiddling more stuff on the dsl appliance.)
 doing nat just isn't that hard.  i just need to find the time.
 this is about a summer-of-code sized project.  i don't think
 it would require anything from the kernel.

 - erik





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Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

2008/11/19 Nolan Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it.


People use Limbo.

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Re: [9fans] Wireless cards

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

As far as I know, madwifi is a driver fot atheros based WiFi Ethernet.

Atheros is unsupported by Plan9 :(

For start -
http://groups.google.ru/group/comp.os.plan9/browse_thread/thread/9ddd97114994fdbb?pli=1

2008/12/15 theotherji...@gmail.com

 Hello,

 I was wondering if Plan 9 supports wireless Ethernet in its current
 state. If it does (and I just can't find it), could you please give me
 a link to follow. If it does not, I guess I will just begin to analyze
 my current wireless driver (for Linux) madwifi.

 Thank you for reading my first post,
 Jimmy




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Re: [9fans] Wireless cards

[Sergey Zhilkin]

 I will begin porting madwifi because I have more time than money and I
 think others will benefit.



COOL !!! :)

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Re: [9fans] inferno runs on n770 and n800/n810 (was: Re: How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?)

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello !

And how about JIT ??


2008/12/19 fge...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote:
  i like nokia's line, and would love to see a port of Plan 9 (or
  Inferno) to the 770 or N800 (there's an even newer one, but i forget
  the model off hand and don't own one of those).

 Inferno works perfectly on the n770 and probably on the n800, n810 as
 well. It's not packaged and doesn't have full-screen mode, but it's
 quite simple to get it running, though i could not find any use for
 it. The binary is in caerwyn's inferno emulator collection at
 http://code.google.com/p/inferno-bin/
 and you can probably easily build it yoursef from the current distribution.




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Re: [9fans] [Off-topic] Scifi

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

Much of them i've read !!! ;)

2009/1/16 Rodolfo kix Garcia k...@kix.es

 Hi!

 I found these articles about scifi. Are the top tep books of scifi (NY
 Times) and the 20 Ten geek books.


 http://www.papelenblanco.com/2009/01/14-los-10-mejores-libros-de-ciencia-ficcion-segun-el-times
 http://www.papelenblanco.com/2007/08/30-el-top-20-de-literatura-geek

 The links are in spanish. The author names and the titles are not too
 different between english and spanish :-)

 kix.




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Re: [9fans] http sources mirror test

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Thanks !!!

2009/2/13 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com

 i put up a very basic mirror of sources.
 it has no history, no users and updates
 are currently manumatic.  but here it
 is:
http://sources.coraid.com

 - erik




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Re: [9fans] GSoC 2009

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Search Google groups for Plan9-gsoc :)

2009/3/5 hugo rivera uai...@gmail.com

 Well, I asked about GSoC 2009 some weeks ago and I got no reply here.
 I certainly would like to apply as a student, but I am no sure if I
 qualify (in one hand I am kind of a student, and on the other I
 probably need to learn a lot more about plan 9).
 In any case, I would like to see how this evolves.
 Saludos

 2009/3/4, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com:
  So, the web site's up, program is announced, and so on.
 
   Was anyone planning on doing a Plan 9 application? I'm willing to
   help, if anyone was planning on it, or lead, if not. In the later
   case, I'd appreciate help (any of advice, materials, or labor) from
   people who were involved in our last two applications.
 
 
   Anthony
 
 


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Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

[Sergey Zhilkin]

 My wireless card is not listed in Plan9.ini. Does that mean there's no
 way for me to connect with that card?

 Hi !

What type of wireless card you have 




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Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Look at - http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/304

Plan9 hardware support is limited to those that plan9 users have.



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Re: [9fans] rio in rio and ghost windows.

[Sergey Zhilkin]

can't reproduce :( Native system on hp compaq workstation.

2009/4/28 cinap_len...@gmx.de

 Test case:

 draw a window... run rio

 inside that thing draw another window and hide it.

 now rezise the rio window.

 now, the region where the window was seems to eat
 mouse events, but the window is hidden.

 Fix:

 in rio.c:^resized, change this:
 ...
if(ishidden)
im = allocimage(display, r, screen-chan, 0,
 DWhite);
else
im = allocwindow(wscreen, r, Refbackup, DWhite);

 to this:

if(ishidden){
im = allocimage(display, r, screen-chan, 0,
 DWhite);
r = ZR;
}else
im = allocwindow(wscreen, r, Refbackup, DWhite);


 can anyone confirm this and may make a patch?

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Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

[Sergey Zhilkin]

How about disk storage ... HS21 have internal SAS controller that is
unsopported by Plan9.



 I'll just have to get my hands on one of those floppy disks i keep hearing
 so much about from my grandfather. ;)





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Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

[Sergey Zhilkin]

2009/5/20 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net

  Hi !
 
  It seems that Plan9 boot loader doesn't support modern hardware from IBM
 :(
 
  May be someone from IBM can help :)
 
  P.S.: I have some IBM HS21 servers and I wish to use Plan9 on them.
 
  2009/5/19 nocturnal sweh...@gmail.com

 pci (or linux lspci -n) output would be helpful.

 - erik

 lspci -n from IBM HS21

00:00.0 0600: 8086:25d8 (rev b1)
00:02.0 0604: 8086:25f7 (rev b1)
00:03.0 0604: 8086:25e3 (rev b1)
00:04.0 0604: 8086:25e4 (rev b1)
00:05.0 0604: 8086:25e5 (rev b1)
00:06.0 0604: 8086:25e6 (rev b1)
00:07.0 0604: 8086:25e7 (rev b1)
00:08.0 0880: 8086:1a38 (rev b1)
00:10.0 0600: 8086:25f0 (rev b1)
00:10.1 0600: 8086:25f0 (rev b1)
00:10.2 0600: 8086:25f0 (rev b1)
00:11.0 0600: 8086:25f1 (rev b1)
00:13.0 0600: 8086:25f3 (rev b1)
00:15.0 0600: 8086:25f5 (rev b1)
00:16.0 0600: 8086:25f6 (rev b1)
00:1c.0 0604: 8086:2690 (rev 09)
00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:2688 (rev 09)
00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:2689 (rev 09)
00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:268a (rev 09)
00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:268c (rev 09)
00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev d9)
00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2670 (rev 09)
00:1f.2 0101: 8086:2680 (rev 09)
01:01.0 0300: 1002:515e (rev 02)
02:00.0 0100: 1000:0056 (rev 02)
03:00.0 0604: 1166:0103 (rev c3)
04:00.0 0200: 14e4:16ac (rev 12)
05:00.0 0604: 1166:0103 (rev c3)
06:00.0 0200: 14e4:16ac (rev 12)
07:00.0 0604: 8086:3500 (rev 01)
07:00.3 0604: 8086:350c (rev 01)
09:00.0 0604: 8086:3510 (rev 01)
09:01.0 0604: 8086:3514 (rev 01)
0c:00.0 0604: 10b5:8114 (rev aa)
0e:00.0 0604: 10b5:8114 (rev aa)
0f:05.0 0100: 9005:8017 (rev 10)



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Re: [9fans] No Boot from installCD on IBM xserver 305

[Sergey Zhilkin]

I have an PCI expansion unit.  Adaptec Inc ASC-29320ALP Ultra320 SCSI
Controller is lpuggit in it, and second port is free :) It's not a
problem... Problem is with  LSI Logic LSISAS1064ET PCI-Express Fusion-MPT
SAS :)

2009/5/22 Steve Simon st...@quintile.net

  lspci -n from IBM HS21

 00:00.0 0600: 8086:25d8 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:02.0 0604: 8086:25f7 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:03.0 0604: 8086:25e3 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:04.0 0604: 8086:25e4 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:05.0 0604: 8086:25e5 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:06.0 0604: 8086:25e6 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:07.0 0604: 8086:25e7 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:08.0 0880: 8086:1a38 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation 5000P 5000 Series Chipset DMA Engine
 00:10.0 0600: 8086:25f0 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:10.1 0600: 8086:25f0 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:10.2 0600: 8086:25f0 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:11.0 0600: 8086:25f1 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:13.0 0600: 8086:25f3 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:15.0 0600: 8086:25f5 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:16.0 0600: 8086:25f6 (rev b1)
 Intel Corporation
 00:1c.0 0604: 8086:2690 (rev 09)
 Intel Corporation
 00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:2688 (rev 09)
 Intel Corporation
 00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:2689 (rev 09)
 Intel Corporation
 00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:268a (rev 09)
 Intel Corporation
 00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:268c (rev 09)
 Intel Corporation
 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev d9)
 Intel Corporation 82801DB Hub Interface to PCI Bridge
 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2670 (rev 09)
 Intel Corporation
 00:1f.2 0101: 8086:2680 (rev 09)
 Intel Corporation
 01:01.0 0300: 1002:515e (rev 02)
 ATI  Technologies  Inc. Radeon ES1000 Radeon ES1000
 02:00.0 0100: 1000:0056 (rev 02)
 LSI Logic LSISAS1064ET PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS
 03:00.0 0604: 1166:0103 (rev c3)
 Broadcom / ServerWorks BCM5715 Broadcom dual gigabit, pci bridge
 04:00.0 0200: 14e4:16ac (rev 12)
 Broadcom Corporation
 05:00.0 0604: 1166:0103 (rev c3)
 Broadcom / ServerWorks BCM5715 Broadcom dual gigabit, pci bridge
 06:00.0 0200: 14e4:16ac (rev 12)
 Broadcom Corporation
 07:00.0 0604: 8086:3500 (rev 01)
 Intel Corporation
 07:00.3 0604: 8086:350c (rev 01)
 Intel Corporation
 09:00.0 0604: 8086:3510 (rev 01)
 Intel Corporation
 09:01.0 0604: 8086:3514 (rev 01)
 Intel Corporation
 0c:00.0 0604: 10b5:8114 (rev aa)
 PLX Technology Inc.
 0e:00.0 0604: 10b5:8114 (rev aa)
 PLX Technology Inc.
 0f:05.0 0100: 9005:8017 (rev 10)
 Adaptec Inc ASC-29320ALP Ultra320 SCSI Controller

 Broadcom GigE - these are a problem, as I understand it
 Broadcom will not supply register level programming info for
 their chipsets except under NDA.

 and as these are blades you have no chance to plug in a
 supported PCI NIC.

 ☹

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Re: [9fans] Interview about Plan 9

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

Try to post message to inferno-list :)

2009/6/2 rommanio-p9 rommanio...@yandex.ru

 Dear Dr. Charles Forsyth (or other official person from Vita Nuova),

I'm writing an article about Plan 9 for LinuxFormat Russian Edition,
 the leading magazine about Free Software in Russia, and I'd like to ask you
 some questions regarding your OS.
I sent the questions to you via E-mail once on more but for some
 unknown reasons I wasn't get answers.
May you say me on what e-mail can I write for get answerc?

 --
 Sincerely yours,
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[9fans] 9vx and AWK

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi All !!!

Anyboby use AWK on 9vx ???

I'm try to build Inferno on 9vx, but AWK script generate nothing in
emu.root.h ;(

Any known issues with 9vx and AWK ?


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Re: [9fans] Plan 9 from Outer Space, August 20

[Sergey Zhilkin]

it's in COLOR !!! :)

2009/8/2 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com

 http://www.ncm.com/Fathom/Comedy/RiffTrax.aspx

 Russ




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Re: [9fans] 9P in lua

[Sergey Zhilkin]

There is a LUA for P9
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/iru/lua-5.1-plan9.tgz

But ... 9P on LUA  maybe iRu knows ?

2009/10/13 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org:
 Guys,

 has anybody seen 9P implemented in Lua? Either client, server or both?

 Thanks,
 Roman.





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Re: [9fans] 9P in lua

[Sergey Zhilkin]

http://9p.cat-v.org/implementations - may be usefull :)

2009/10/13 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org:
 Guys,

 has anybody seen 9P implemented in Lua? Either client, server or both?

 Thanks,
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Re: [9fans] iwp9 papers posted

[Sergey Zhilkin]

http://iwp9.org/papers/usb.pdf - this paper is wrong :( It's about email :)

2009/10/27 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
 http://iwp9.org.

 i'm sure there are typos.  let me know offline.

 - erik





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Re: [9fans] Google Go (off topic, but maybe it could be ported to Plan 9)

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Ask Russ about Plan9 port :)

2009/11/11 Rodrigo Miranda rodrigo.mira...@acm.org:
 6g, 8g, looks like a winner to me.
 http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/go-new-open-source-programming-language-from-google.ars?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=rss
 http://golang.org/
 --
 Rodrigo Miranda

 There is nothing like looking, if you want to find something… You certainly
 usually find something, if you look, but it is not always quite the
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Re: [9fans] Problem of last update?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !


Try to edit plan9.ini

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky 
pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 the last update damaged my Plan9 installation.
 After the logging in the rio should be started but it fails:

 aux/vga: vgactlw: type radeon: bad VGA control message type radeon
 ...
 rio: can't open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: no frame buffer
 init: rc exit status: rio 23: display open

 I am running my Plan9 on ThinkPad T30.

 Can anyone help, please?

 Thanks.

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Re: [9fans] using usb

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello !

Usb disk ???


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:24 AM, ruel hernandez ru6...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi to all,

 i'm a new plan9 user, i just wanted to know how to use my usb in plan9.
 because i have a pdf file about plan9 and i would like to read it in plan9

 anybody? please help.

 thanks in advance,
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Re: [9fans] using usb

[Sergey Zhilkin]

man 4 usb

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:24 AM, ruel hernandez ru6...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi to all,

 i'm a new plan9 user, i just wanted to know how to use my usb in plan9.
 because i have a pdf file about plan9 and i would like to read it in plan9

 anybody? please help.

 thanks in advance,
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Re: [9fans] Timesync problem...?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !
try using one time source, from  your  Internet service provider

2010/7/15 Pavel Klinkovsky pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 I experienced such strange behavior of timesync (using
 europe.pool.ntp.org server):

 /sys/log/timesync
 ...
 server Jul 12 12:31:39 Ξ΄ 5577831 avgΞ΄ 5722272 hz 305452795
 server Jul 12 12:32:39 Ξ΄ -1391083 avgΞ΄ 3556677 hz 305452749
 server Jul 12 12:33:39 Ξ΄ -937290 avgΞ΄ 2246983 hz 305452536
 server Mar  1 01:34:43 Ξ΄ -547984795507673122 avgΞ΄ 2246983 hz 305452536
 server Mar  1 01:35:43 Ξ΄ 754028 avgΞ΄ 1500505 hz 305452536
 server Mar  1 01:36:44 Ξ΄ 921782 avgΞ΄ 1211143 hz 305452536
 ...

 Do you think the public NTP server had a persistent problem?
 Or did some problem occured in my Plan9 server (Intel D510MO)?

 Regards,

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Re: [9fans] parseip error

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Strange IP :)

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:34 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 parseip(355.355.355.355) - 99.99.99.99

 correction to parseip.c attached; test program
 included.

 - erik

 -
 #include u.h
 #include libc.h
 #include ip.h

 void
 usage(void)
 {
        fprint(2, usage: parseip [ip ...]\n);
        exits(usage);
 }

 void
 main(int argc, char **argv)
 {
        uchar ip[IPaddrlen];
        int i;
        uvlong n;

        fmtinstall('I', eipfmt);
        ARGBEGIN{
        default:
                usage();
        }ARGEND
        for(i = 0; i  argc; i++){
                n = parseip(ip, argv[i]);
                if(n != -1)
                        print(%s - %I\n, argv[i], ip);
                else
                        print(%s - -1\n, argv[i]);
        }
        exits();
 }



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Re: [9fans] dyncall on Plan9

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

One question - why ?

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/dynamic-linking/

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Tassilo Philipp
tphil...@potion-studios.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I finished my dyncall/Plan9/x86 port - thanks again Cinap and Steve for
 pointing me into the right directions about the Plan9 calling convention,
 a few weeks ago.

 Anyways, dyncall has Plan9 support for x86, starting with Version 0.6,
 maybe someone likes it or finds it useful (www.dyncall.org).

 Cheers,
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Re: [9fans] So, why Plan 9?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi Mark !

Plan9 IS (and was) research os prototype.
I use it because I'm interested in ideas that was included in original
UNIX and Plan9 (inferno)

Read more documents at -
http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/1st_edition/designing_plan_9

Linux is another os, it imported ideas from Plan9 (/proc, private namespaces)


On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Mark Carter alt.mcar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was reading the suckless.org website the other day, and they seemed
 quite keen on Plan 9. I am running Linux. Is there a useful summary
 document that explains where plan9port fits in with Glendix, and why
 anyone should care about Plan 9 anyway (hope that doesn't come across
 as rude)?





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Re: [9fans] beagleboard

[Sergey Zhilkin]

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:43 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
 /sys/src/9/beagle

cpu% ls -l /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda   sys 0 Mar 23  2008
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/alphapc
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda   bitsy   0 Mar 23  2008
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/bitsy
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda   sys 0 Jul  7 17:35
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/boot
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda   sys 0 Nov 17  2009
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/ip
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 geoffsys 0 Oct  5 14:12
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/kw
--rw-rw-r-- M 21173 glenda   sys   205 Sep 17  2003
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/mkfile
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda   sys 0 Mar 23  2008
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/mtx
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 geoffsys 0 Oct  7 00:41
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/omap
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda   sys 0 Oct  4 18:15
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/pc
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda   sys 0 Oct  4 18:16
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/port
d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 presotto sys 0 Aug 10  2005
/n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/ppc
cpu%

Nothing :(


 I think it works but have not run it for some time.



I have a beagleboard and wont to try to run plan9 on it. :)


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Re: [9fans] beagleboard

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Find them ! Thx !

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:41 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, /sys/src/9/omap/beagle

 ron





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Re: [9fans] DNS problem

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi ! Seems like that is an old google dns issue, look at
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/37

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I am using Plan9 server as my home server (ip=192.168.15.20)
 controlling DNS names in my LAN and relaying other requests to the
 public DNS server (ip=88.146.135.10).
 Up to now everything worked fine.


 I discovered a problem with SRV request type from my Linux workstation
 (ip=192.168.15.207):

 $ nslookup -type=srv _xmpp-server._tcp.google.com
 ;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.
 Server:         192.168.15.20
 Address:        192.168.15.20#53

 *** Can't find _xmpp-server._tcp.google.com: No answer


 I monitored DNS traffic on my server using 'snoopy':

 091714 ms
        ether(s=6cf0490d4ac0 d=00270e03ef27 pr=0800 ln=88)
        ip(s=192.168.15.207 d=192.168.15.20 id=5a54 frag= ttl= 64 pr=17
 ln=74)
        udp(s=44912 d=53 ck=a748 ln=  54)
        dns(id=49429 flags=0x100)
        dns.qd(srv name=_xmpp-server._tcp.google.com ttl=0)
 091730 ms
        ether(s=00270e03ef27 d=0013101df6b6 pr=0800 ln=88)
        ip(s=192.168.15.20 d=88.146.135.10 id=f122 frag= ttl=255 pr=17
 ln=74)
        udp(s=40364 d=53 ck=6987 ln=  54)
        dns(id=374 flags=0x100)
        dns.qd(srv name=_xmpp-server._tcp.google.com ttl=0)
 091755 ms
        ether(s=0013101df6b6 d=00270e03ef27 pr=0800 ln=458)
        ip(s=88.146.135.10 d=192.168.15.20 id=ad4c frag= ttl=126 pr=17
 ln=444)
        udp(s=53 d=40364 ck=6873 ln= 424)
        dns(id=374 flags=0x8500)
        dns.qd(srv name=_xmpp-server._tcp.google.com ttl=0)
        dns.an(srv name=_xmpp-server._tcp.google.com ttl=900)
        dns.an(srv name=_xmpp-server._tcp.google.com ttl=900)
        dns.an(srv name=_xmpp-server._tcp.google.com ttl=900)
        dns.an(srv name=_xmpp-server._tcp.google.com ttl=900)
        dns.an(srv name=_xmpp-server._tcp.google.com ttl=900)
        dns.ar(ip name=xmpp-server1.l.google.com ttl=1800)
        dns.ar(ip name=xmpp-server4.l.google.com ttl=1800)
        dns.ar(ip name=xmpp-server.l.google.com ttl=300)
        dns.ar(ip name=xmpp-server2.l.google.com ttl=1800)
        dns.ar(ip name=xmpp-server3.l.google.com ttl=1800)
 after several seconds 'snoopy' inexplicably ends!


 You can see that:
 - request is delivered from Linux to the server,
 - relayed to the public server,
 - answer is received from the public server,
 - nothing is sent to the Linux.

 This is not fully true, I monitored the IP traffic on Linux using
 'wireshark'.
 Linux received an answer, but as a malformed (cut) packet.
 (Just note: This 'wireshark' dump does not match preciselly since the
 the 'snoopy' dump was from different test.
 But the behavior is always the same.)

   6c f0 49 0d 4a c0 00 27  0e 03 ef 27 08 00 45 00
 l.I.J..' ...'..E.
 0010  01 25 53 db 00 00 ff 11  c6 b8 c0 a8 0f 14 c0 a8   .
 %S. 
 0020  0f cf 00 35 cd c2 01 11  8f a0 53 4e 84 80 00 01   ...
 5 ..SN
 0030  00 05 00 00 00 00 0c 5f  78 6d 70 70 2d 73 65 72   ..._ xmpp-
 ser
 0040  76 65 72 04 5f 74 63 70  06 67 6f 6f 67 6c 65 03
 ver._tcp .google.
 0050  63 6f 6d 00 00 21 00 01  c0 0c 00 21 00 01 00 00
 com..!.. ...!
 0060  01 0a 00 20 00 14 00 00  14 95 19 78 6d 70 70
 2d   ...  ...xmpp-
 0070  73 65 72 76 65 72 32 2e  6c 2e 67 6f 6f 67 6c 65   server2.
 l.google
 0080  2e 63 6f 6d c0 0c 00 21  00 01 00 00 01 0a 00
 20   .com...! ...
 0090  00 14 00 00 14 95 19 78  6d 70 70 2d 73 65 72 76   ...x mpp-
 serv
 00a0  65 72 33 2e 6c 2e 67 6f  6f 67 6c 65 2e 63 6f 6d   er3.l.go
 ogle.com
 00b0  c0 0c 00 21 00 01 00 00  01 0a 00 20 00 14 00
 00   ...! ... 
 00c0  14 95 19 78 6d 70 70 2d  73 65 72 76 65 72 34 2e   ...xmpp-
 server4.
 00d0  6c 2e 67 6f 6f 67 6c 65  2e 63 6f 6d c0 0c 00 21
 l.google .com...!
 00e0  00 01 00 00 01 0a 00 20  00 14 00 00 14 95 19
 78   ...  ...x
 00f0  6d 70 70 2d 73 65 72 76  65 72 31 2e 6c 2e 67 6f   mpp-serv
 er1.l.go
 0100  6f 67 6c 65 2e 63 6f 6d  c0 0c 00 21 00 01 00 00
 ogle.com ...!
 0110  01 0a 00 1f 00 05 00 00  14 95 18 78 6d 70 70
 2d    ...xmpp-
 0120  73 65 72 76 65 72 2e 6c  2e 67 6f 6f 67 6c 65 2e
 server.l .google.
 0130  63 6f 6d
 com


 It seems to me the DNS in Plan9 has a problem... ;-)

 Can anyone help me?

 Thanks in advance.

 Pavel





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Re: [9fans] Nvidia announces it will do ARM based desktop and server CPUs

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Good news :)


On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Aharon Robbins arn...@skeeve.com wrote:
 For those of you wanting something different than Intel Architecture,
 Nvidia plans to give it to you. It should be interesting.

 http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/nvidia-announces-project-denver-arm-cpu-for-the-desktop/

 http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/microsoft-confirms-arm-support-is-coming-in-windows-will-play-n/

 I'm not rushing to sell my Intel stock though! :-)

 Arnold





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Re: [9fans] assigning acme windows to columns programmatically

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Its impossible without modification.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Joseph Xu joseph...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi:

 In acme, is it possible to move an existing window into a specific
 column using its control file interface? I have a script that spawns
 several windows every run and I'm getting tired of manually
 rearranging the windows every time.

 Joseph





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Re: [9fans] Is there a reason for the existence of 9atom?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello ! :)

Go to the http://www.quanstro.net/plan9/9atom/ and read the few lines of
text.


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Gorodinsky
e.gorodin...@gmail.comwrote:

 This question has been bugging me for some time and I haven't found any
 discussions on the matter. It seems that at least the devices support could
 go into the original plan9 kernel. What's the reason for having a fork?




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Re: [9fans] Is there a reason for the existence of 9atom?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Ask Geoff :)

I think, that plan9 code-base is used somewhere else at Alcatel-Lucent. :)

2011/2/14 Eugene Gorodinsky e.gorodin...@gmail.com

 Any specific rules as to which changes are going to be accepted and which
 are not?

 2011/2/14 Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net

 No big mystery: the Bell Labs folks are more
 conservative about folding in certain kinds
 of changes than Erik is.





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Re: [9fans] i82547EI; bad EEPROM checksum

[Sergey Zhilkin]

2011/2/28 visof abdullahi...@gmail.com

 hello
 i'm using 9atom on my pc but i have a problem with ethernet card, i
 have these lines when the system start
  igbe: SPI EEPROM access not implemented
 igbe: bad EEPROM checksum - 0x
 igbe: SPI EEPROM access not implemented

 i tried to compile the kernel and try again but with the same error
 pci | grep net  === 2.1.0: net 02.00.00 8086/1019 10 0:e010
 131072 2:40 01 32
 grep 1019 /sys/src/9/pc/etherigbe.c  i82547ei = (0x101916)|
 0x8086,

 is there anyone have the same problem ? and how can i fix that if
 possible

 Thanks


Hello !

I have gotten  igbe: bad EEPROM checksum message on my IBM (Lenovo) T61
Tablet.
I've took a look at NetBSD kernel sources (if_wm.c), that recommends to read
EEPROM twice :)

Comment from if_wm.c:

/*
 * Read twice again because some PCI-e parts fail the
 * first check due to the link being in sleep state.
 */


Maybe helpful :)

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Re: [9fans] i82547EI; bad EEPROM checksum

[Sergey Zhilkin]

2011/2/28 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net

  I have gotten  igbe: bad EEPROM checksum message on my IBM (Lenovo) T61
  Tablet.
  I've took a look at NetBSD kernel sources (if_wm.c), that recommends to
 read
  EEPROM twice :)

 did you try the patch i sent you?

 - erik


No.

I've done a dirty hack (temporary workaround), this helped me to solve
problem with connectivity.
This was temporary work and I've lost all changes. :(

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Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello !
 As far as I know, ndb have support for SRV, PTR, TXT resords. There
is no sample, of cause :)
I think tha it may look like this:
ip=10.0.0.1 sys=_service
dom=_tcp.local
srv=


2011/4/28 Sergey Kornilovich roo...@gmail.com:
 Investigating the possibility of replacing the MS DNS on Plan9 DNS,not found
 in the man ndb mention of records of type SRV.
 It is necessary to support Microsoft Active Directory. Maybe I missed
 something?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record




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Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Greate example ! :) Thanks :)

2011/4/29 Benjamin Huntsman bhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu:
Investigating the possibility of replacing the MS DNS on Plan9 DNS,not found 
in the man ndb mention of records of type SRV.
It is necessary to support Microsoft Active Directory. Maybe I missed 
something?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record

 I got AD to work with Plan 9 DNS just last year.  It didn't work very well, 
 and I had problems with the DNS
 service dying from time to time and I'd have to go restart it.  Much as I'd 
 preferred to have stayed on Plan 9 DNS,
 I switched to BIND 9 on OpenBSD and have had far fewer problems.  But anyway, 
 here's the Active Directory support
 portion of my /ndb/local.  This supported a domain whose domain was testad. 
  Like I said, it works, but not as
 seamlessly as MS DNS or BIND 9 with dynamic updates enabled...  (pardon the 
 excessive comments)



 #
 #
 # Active Directory support
 # See http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd316373.aspx
 #
 #

 #
 # Domain Controllers:
 #
 ip=10.0.0.20 sys=kfdc1 dom=kfdc1.testad.test.local
        ether=
 ip=10.0.0.21 sys=kfdc2 dom=kfdc2.testad.test.local
    ether=005056b36086

 #
 # requisite CNAME aliases
 #
 cname=kfdc2.testad.test.local
        dom=testad.test.local

 cname=kfdc2.testad.test.local
        dom=8df1f9af-8c89-4263-9c30-a40ad5ac728f._msdcs.testad.test.local

 #
 # SRV records, etc
 #
 dom=testad.test.local soa=
        refresh=3600 ttl=3600
        ns=ns2.test.local
        #ns=ns1.test.local
        dnsdomain=testad.test.local


 dom=_ldap._tcp.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
    srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389

 dom=_kerberos._tcp.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=88
    srv=kfcd2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=88

 dom=_kpasswd._udp.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=464
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=464

 dom=_kpasswd._tcp.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=464
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=464

 dom=_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
    srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389

 dom=_ldap._tcp.gc._msdcs.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389

 # only one PDC
 dom=_ldap._tcp.pdc._msdcs.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389

 dom=_ldap._tcp.KlamathFalls._sites.gc._msdcs.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389

 dom=_kerberos._tcp.dc._msdcs.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=88
    srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=88

 dom=gc._msdcs.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=3268
    srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=3268

 dom=_gc._tcp.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=3268
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=3268

 dom=_ldap._tcp.e3514235-4b06-11d1-ab04-00c04fc2dcd2.domains._msdcs.testad.test.local
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389

 # Key Management Service
 dom=_VLMCS._tcp.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=1688

 dom=_ldap._tcp.KlamathFalls._sites.domaindnszones.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389

 dom=_ldap._tcp.domaindnszones.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389

 dom=_ldap._tcp.KlamathFalls._sites.forestdnszones.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389

 dom=_ldap._tcp.forestdnszones.testad.test.local soa=
        srv=kfdc1.testad.test.local pri=0 weight=0 port=389
        srv=kfdc2.testad.test.local pri=1 weight=1 port=389



 #
 #
 # End Active Directory Support
 #
 #




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Re: [9fans] Plan 9 IPv4 router

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

Answer is simple - no.

But this doesn't mean that you can't use plan9 as a core technology
for router os ;)

Current IP stack doesn't support NAT (dirty hack was made by some
plan9 geek), rate limits and other useless features of lunix router.

Currently lunix router on a ugly and messy MIPSel platform makes his
job done well :)

And, I think, than in the era of IPv6 nobody will be interested in
something like NAT.

And, YES, Plan9 CAN route IP ! :)

2011/7/30  smi...@icebubble.org:
 Hi, all,

 Does anybody know if it's possible to use Plan 9 as an IPv4 router?  I
 know you can export the /net file system to other Plan 9 boxen, but I'm
 wondering about using Plan 9 to create a network appliance/router.  I'm
 envisioning using Plan 9 to do things that Linux iptables does... route
 packets, NAT, rate limiting, etc.  Could you, for example, stick
 Unix/Window$ boxen on a LAN and use a Plan 9 box as a gateway?  Is there
 currently any way to do such a thing?





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Re: [9fans] Fortran 2008/2003 on Plan 9 from Bell Labs

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello !

As far as i know, there is no fortran (any) compiler in plan9. But, you can
port some ;)

2012/1/10 Австин Ким avs...@mail.ru

 Hi, all,

 Could anyone point me to a Fortran 2008 or Fortran 2003 compiler for Plan
 9 from Bell Labs?  I have not been successful searching online for one.

 All the best,
 Austin

 We are all responsible for everyone everywhere, especially for the
 worst-off among us, whoever we are and wherever we may be.




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Re: [9fans] dns problem with plan9.iso downloaded on Tue07Feb2012_2219

[Sergey Zhilkin]

is ndb/cs running ? stat /srv/cs

2012/2/13 ROuNIN rounin.urash...@googlemail.com

 Hello
 Using this new version and creating a new Plan9 install with the
 following:

 md5sum /home/plan9/plan9.Tue07Feb2012_2219.iso
 a62dba17efa51e3c5dbd1b12e8586492  /home/plan9/
 plan9.Tue07Feb2012_2219.iso

 I see the following:

 term% ip/ipconfig
 term% ndb/dns -r
 term% ip/ping www.google.com
 ip/ping: couldn't dial icmp!www.google.com!1: cs: temporary problem:
 dns: dns failure
 term% ip/ping -fr 192.168.0.12
 sending 32 64 byte messages 0 ms apart to icmp!192.168.0.12!1
 0: rtt 9358 µs, avg rtt 9358 µs, ttl = 64
 1: rtt 11086 µs, avg rtt 10222 µs, ttl = 64
 2: rtt 15649 µs, avg rtt 12031 µs, ttl = 64
 3: rtt 18320 µs, avg rtt 13603 µs, ttl = 64
 4: rtt 19911 µs, avg rtt 14864 µs, ttl = 64
 5: rtt 21464 µs, avg rtt 15964 µs, ttl = 64
 6: rtt 23002 µs, avg rtt 16970 µs, ttl = 64
 7: rtt 24553 µs, avg rtt 17917 µs, ttl = 64
 8: rtt 26140 µs, avg rtt 18831 µs, ttl = 64
 9: rtt 27737 µs, avg rtt 19722 µs, ttl = 64
 10: rtt 29308 µs, avg rtt 20593 µs, ttl = 64
 11: rtt 30801 µs, avg rtt 21444 µs, ttl = 64
 12: rtt 32311 µs, avg rtt 22280 µs, ttl = 64
 13: rtt 33893 µs, avg rtt 23109 µs, ttl = 64
 14: rtt 35401 µs, avg rtt 23928 µs, ttl = 64
 15: rtt 36926 µs, avg rtt 24741 µs, ttl = 64
 16: rtt 38423 µs, avg rtt 25546 µs, ttl = 64
 17: rtt 39773 µs, avg rtt 26336 µs, ttl = 64
 18: rtt 41220 µs, avg rtt 27119 µs, ttl = 64
 19: rtt 42084 µs, avg rtt 27868 µs, ttl = 64
 20: rtt 44871 µs, avg rtt 28677 µs, ttl = 64
 21: rtt 45633 µs, avg rtt 29448 µs, ttl = 64
 22: rtt 46443 µs, avg rtt 30187 µs, ttl = 64
 23: rtt 47241 µs, avg rtt 30897 µs, ttl = 64
 24: rtt 48466 µs, avg rtt 31600 µs, ttl = 64
 25: rtt 49489 µs, avg rtt 32288 µs, ttl = 64
 26: rtt 50463 µs, avg rtt 32961 µs, ttl 5= 64
 27: rtt 52125 µs, avg rtt 33646 µs, ttl = 64
 28: rtt 53155 µs, avg rtt 34318 µs, ttl = 64
 29: rtt 54089 µs, avg rtt 34977 µs, ttl = 64
 30: rtt 55183 µs, avg rtt 35629 µs, ttl = 64
 31: rtt 56200 µs, avg rtt 36272 µs, ttl = 64
 term% ip/ping www.bbc.co.uk
 ip/ping: couldn't dial icmp!www.bbc.co.uk!1: cs: temporary problem:
 dns: dns failure
 term%

 It used to work before - what happened?
 Have I missed something?
 ROuNIN




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[9fans] Uriel

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Oh  F*ck...
R.I.P

Bad news.

воскресенье, 14 октября 2012 г. пользователь Julius Schmidt писал:

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Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi userland is now open

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Good !

2012/10/24 Scott Elcomb pse...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 For those working on Plan9 for the Pi, userland is now completely open
 source: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221

 I need more Pi =D

 Best regards,
 --
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   @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca / Github  more

   Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems
   http://code.google.com/p/atomos/

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Re: [9fans] a disk filesystem for both Plan 9 and Linux?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

It's useless, even from contrib/iru




2013/1/11 John Floren j...@jfloren.net

 I'd like to be able to use a disk in both Plan 9 and Linux. FAT seems
 to have some issues with sufficiently large partitions, so that's out.
 Plan9Port doesn't have fossil in the repo, although I've found
 patches. ext2srv may be an option, but I have no idea how reliable it
 would actually be.

 Am I missing any options for filesystems that are supported by both
 Linux and Plan 9? Can anyone comment on the reliability/usefulness of
 ext2srv?


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Re: [9fans] Problem while running plan9 using bochs on ubutu

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Use QEmu, VirtualBox or native system :)


2013/1/28 jaideep bethu jaideep.be...@gmail.com

 Hi guys,

 I am facing a problem while trying to run plan9 on ubuntu using bochs.

 ---

 Booting from CD-Rom...
 277 MB medium detected
 PBSR...  0792  00AE
 Plan9 from Bell labs pcirouting:BIOS workaround PCI.0.1.3 at pin1 link 96
 irq 11 -9
 ---

 These are the bootup logs being displayed on bochs and then it hangs of.
 Can you help me out here in figuring out what could be the problem.

 Thanks,
 Jai




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Re: [9fans] changes to loader elf generation

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Thanks !


2013/3/29 ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com

 Sorry, `-Fphys' should be `-Pphys'.




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Re: [9fans] 9FRONT ANNOUNCES INTEL WIFI DRIVER, WPA/WPA2 SUPPORT

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Greate! And thanks!
01.04.2013 17:53 пользователь s...@9front.org написал:

 This seems like an appropriate time to announce that
 the following Intel wifi cards are now known working:

 Intel WiFi LINK 4965/5100/5300 AGN
 Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6000
 Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205

 It is likely other cards either already do or can be made
 to work with the current driver.

 In addition, a new utility has been created to handle
 authentication and key exchange with WPA/WPA2
 protected wireless networks:

 http://man.aiju.de/8/wpa

 As always, testing and trouble reports are appreciated.

 -sl

Re: [9fans] java on dis

[Sergey Zhilkin]

There is http://www.vitanuova.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating
software. It's not legaly free.
I think, Charles knows more :)


2013/4/29 Marc Chantreux kha...@phear.org

 hello,

 On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote:
  A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual machine?
 Oh
  the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis?

 I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a stupid
 question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9
 expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical
 nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NIH
 manifestation?

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Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com downtime?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

sources.cs.bell-labs.com and plan9.bell-labs.com are different machines,
web is sux, not a way to get sources :)


2013/10/9 Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.net

 Same here (Barcelona), repeatedly.

 Ruben

 On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM, James A. Robinson
 j...@highwire.stanford.edu wrote:
  I certainly can't get to it via port 80, I get a timeout.
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Alex Jordan alexander3223...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Anyone know why plan9.bell-labs.com/ is down?
  Yesterday I visited and it returned object not found, but today it
  fails to load entirely and I get Firefox's problem loading page
  screen, due to a timeout. Just me?
  -Alex Jordan
 
 




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Re: [9fans] ipsec

[Sergey Zhilkin]

No :) ipsec in plan9 is VERY limited, look at esp.c (/sys/src/9/ip/esp.c)


2013/10/29 Steve Simon st...@quintile.net

 I asked about the linux app VPNC a few days ago, however plan9 already has
 an IPsec implementation, it would need (at least) l2tp to speak Windows VPN
 and maybe xauth as well (I haven't done much research yet).

 Anyone used ipsec and have some example code?

 Anyone tried anything similar?

 -Steve




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Re: [9fans] ipsec

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Thx Eric !


2013/10/30 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net

  No :) ipsec in plan9 is VERY limited, look at esp.c (/sys/src/9/ip/esp.c)

 that is the subset that is most useful.  there are several small
 additions to this in 9atom that you may find useful.  esp (ha)
 ckwindow, and setalg.

 - erik




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Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello !
From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin
Adding Users

Add a new user on the file server:

echo newuser username /srv/cwfs.cmd

If needed, make the new user a member of the upas (email) group:

echo newuser upas +username /srv/cwfs.cmd

The newuser filesystem command is described in the
fs(8)http://man.aiju.de/8/fs manpage.
Examine the '/adm/users' file to investigate the results.

To add a new user to the auth server, make sure auth/keyfs is running, then
set an auth password for the user:

auth/changeuser username

New users are created without a profile, mail directory, tmp directory
(needed to edit files with sam) or other confections. To install a default
profile for a new user, upon first login, run:

. /sys/lib/newuser

then edit /usr/username/lib/profile to your own specifications.

See cwfs(4) http://man.aiju.de/4/cwfs and fs(8) http://man.aiju.de/8/fs
 and auth(8) http://man.aiju.de/8/auth.




2013/12/23 Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name

 Greetings,

 I've searched the net to find a way to add a new user.  The following
 command doesn't work:

 con -l /srv/fscons

 I gather that command is for fossil, and fossil isn't used anymore.  I
 poked around /srv but couldn't find a substitute.  Appreciate any help.

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[9fans] GPLv2

[Sergey Zhilkin]

http://akaros.cs.berkeley.edu/files/Plan9License

H ..

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Re: [9fans] GPLv2

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Acaros more close to nix, that is based on plan9

пятница, 14 февраля 2014 г. пользователь Peter Hull написал:

 There is a big discussion on this over at Hacker News which I don’t really
 understand but I think the main point was that this isn’t as big a change
 as it seems.
 On the other hand, I’ve never heard of akaros. How similar is it to Plan9?
 Pete

 On 13 Feb 2014, at 20:53, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.comjavascript:;
 wrote:

  http://akaros.cs.berkeley.edu/files/Plan9License
 
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Re: [9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello !

Plan9 can't mount HFS or HFS+ filesystems (no fileservers :) ) but you can
use USB disk by formatting it to a supported filesystem (fossil(4),
kfs(4)). I think, that your Mac USB disk is labaled as UUID, and UUID is
unsopported. Please read prep(8) for how to lebel and format disks. :)


2014-03-07 12:44 GMT+04:00 Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.net:

 Hi all,

 can Plan9 access a USB disk formatted with HFS plus (i.e. the Mac OS
 Extended ( journaled) file system?

 The part about USB is just because it happens to be an USB drive, but
 basically I don't know how to mount the /dev/sdD.D/data. Of course, dossrv
 can't do it (already tried).

 Thanks,

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Re: [9fans] USB Wireless lan

[Sergey Zhilkin]

If you plane to use USB WiFi, please read
http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters, there are several problem
adapters.


2014-06-22 22:04 GMT+04:00 cinap_len...@felloff.net:

 wrote kernel 802.11 layer and intel wifilink drivers using openbsd
 driver as documentation. alexander polakov wrote ralink rt2860
 driver. wpa encryption is done in software by the kernel but you need
 our aux/wpa helper and factotum changes.

 this stuff is in 9atom and 9front.

 erik wanted to port it to userspace for usb wifi support, but
 not sure if its ready yet.

 theres some old support for orinocco cards but this is old stuff
 and it wont support wpa.

 another alternative is using vonets ethernet to wifi bridges,
 these cost like 20 euro on amazon.

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Re: [9fans] Brasil

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hmmm looks like google knows where they are
https://code.google.com/r/ericvh-brasil/source/browse :)


2014-07-18 21:57 GMT+04:00 Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com:

 It was re-used


 On 18 July 2014 18:30, Yoann Padioleau p...@fb.com wrote:

  I thought it was the old name of plan9:

  http://swtch.com/plan9history/?p=1999/1031;v=difflist


  On Jul 17, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hello 9fans,

  I've been doing some research, and come across Brasil, which, if I've
 got this right, was a co-operating system minimal Inferno layer used on the
 Blue Gene/L project. Now, if I've got that wrong, please tell me...!

  This interests me, of course, as I prepare to bring up my Parallella
 board (I still need a fan for it - tsk tsk). Is there any source for Brasil
 available to the public, as my Google searches isn't showing any repos (but
 I did get this:
 http://graverobbers.blogspot.com.au/2009/05/few-words-on-brasil.html
 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://graverobbers.blogspot.com.au/2009/05/few-words-on-brasil.htmlk=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FN9d7W2LRwZks3eyFNLr8Q%3D%3D%0Am=l%2BBsm7%2BlVWmJmPdPZbten9gJKhTsnbvypiAsH%2BGxkL4%3D%0As=7c33e4970ebdb19f3165317703e92f3ffc884e81b92a17b9002edb096d99a467)?
 I understand the project to the Blue Gene/L was many years ago, and all of
 the IBM references on their website seem to have disappeared in the interim.

  Many thanks!

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Re: [9fans] Web Site broken

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Web (http) is only a translater of 9P :) use P9P to mount and list sources.


2014-07-27 11:44 GMT+04:00 dante subscripti...@posteo.eu:

 Dear 9fans,

 http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/

 looks nowadays like this:

 sed: Can't open /usr/web/plan9/sources.html d-rwxrwxr-x 9grid 9grid 0 Oct
 20 2005 9grid --rw-rw-r-- bootes sys [etc.]

 Regards,
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Re: [9fans] Web Site broken

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Your question was not about site, but only about one part of it.

Someone will come, and fix issue :)

All you need is on the *.cat-v.org




2014-07-28 12:39 GMT+04:00 dante subscripti...@posteo.eu:

 Why do I always get stupid answers on this list?

 Forget sources. The main Web site (http://plan9.bell-labs.com/) looks
 like this:

 Object not found
 The object / does not exist on this server.

 errstr: '/usr/web/' clone failed
 uri host:
 header host: plan9.bell-labs.com
 actual host: plan9.bell-labs.com

 Cheers,
 Dante



 On 28.07.2014 09:24, Sergey Zhilkin wrote:

 Web (http) is only a translater of 9P :) use P9P to mount and list
 sources.

 2014-07-27 11:44 GMT+04:00 dante subscripti...@posteo.eu:

  Dear 9fans,

 http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/ [1]


 looks nowadays like this:

 sed: Can't open /usr/web/plan9/sources.html d-rwxrwxr-x 9grid 9grid 0
 Oct 20 2005 9grid --rw-rw-r-- bootes sys [etc.]

 Regards,
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Re: [9fans] Web Site broken

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hmmm. I think, that Geoff make the magic at Murray Hill :)


2014-07-28 18:51 GMT+04:00 Peter Hull peterhul...@gmail.com:

 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:43 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net
 wrote:
  i got a slightly different error message, and came to the same educated
  guess as sergey.  the file server appears down or sick, but the web
 server is still
  up and kicking enough to complain about missing files, etc.  the web
  server must boot from a different root, otherwise it would be down, too.
 Just wondering - who should we report this too? Out of all the
 characters who post on this list, I'm not sure who is associated with
 Labs, 9Front, ... etc

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Re: [9fans] Failed 'reject' function?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi Pavel !

It seems, you do it incorrectly :) dial(2) has an exact example if using
announce/listen/accept functions.

2014-10-10 11:48 GMT+04:00 Pavel Klinkovský pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 I tried very simple program on native Plan9:

 #include u.h
 #include libc.h

 void
 main(int, char**)
 {
 int afd, lfd;
 char adir[NETPATHLEN], ldir[NETPATHLEN];

 afd = announce(tcp!*!20540, adir);
 if (afd  0)
 sysfatal(listen: %r);

 lfd = listen(adir, ldir);
 if (lfd  0)
 sysfatal(listen: %r);

 if (reject(lfd, ldir, unauthorized)  0)
 sysfatal(reject: %r);

 close(lfd);
 close(afd);
 exits(nil);
 }

 I dicovered that the funtion 'reject' fails:
 term% 8.out
 reject: unknown control request

 In 'ratrace' listing I can really see the 'reject' function failure:
 348 8.out Open 33a7 0xdfffe9bc//net/cs 0x2 = 3  1412926762174586973
 1412926762174841785
 348 8.out Pwrite 5577 3  0x7880/tcp!*!20540 11 -1 = 11 
 1412926762186976342 1412926762187086984
 348 8.out Seek 3391 0x7ab8 3 0x0 0 = 0  1412926762198637769
 1412926762198646989
 348 8.out Pread 557f 3 0xdfffe9bc 255 -1 0xdfffe9bc//net/tcp/clone.20540
 255 -1 = 20  1412926762200546351 1412926762200619275
 348 8.out Close 1225 3 = 0  1412926762221784602 1412926762221865069
 348 8.out Open 33a7 0xdfffebe0//net/tcp/clone 0x2 = 3 
 1412926762223717492 1412926762223849089
 348 8.out Pread 557f 3 0xdfffede9 246 -1 0xdfffede9/4 246 -1 = 1 
 1412926762235853725 1412926762235866298
 348 8.out Pwrite 5577 3  0xdfffece0/announce.20540 14 -1 = 14 
 1412926762247454802 1412926762247479948
 348 8.out Open 33a7 0xdfffede0//net/tcp/4/listen 0x2 = 4 
 1412926762259028218 1412926771821372908
 348 8.out Pread 557f 4 0xdfffede9 246 -1 0xdfffede9/6 246 -1 = 1 
 1412926771844967723 1412926771844984487
 348 8.out Pwrite 5577 4  0xdfffedec/reject.6.unauthorized 21 -1 = -1
 unknown control request 1412926771854330421 1412926771854347185
 348 8.out Errstr 5587 0xdfffe914 128 128 = 0  1412926771871626615
 1412926771871632483
 348 8.out Errstr 5587 0xdfffe914 128 128 = 0 unknown control request
 1412926771887234674 1412926771887239703
 348 8.out Pwrite 5577 2  0xdfffe980/reject:.unknown.control.request. 32
 -1reject: unknown control request
  = 32  1412926771918100040 1412926771932457957
 348 8.out Open 33a7 0x7538/#c/pid 0x0 = 5  1412926771947976329
 1412926771948085295
 348 8.out Pread 557f 5 0xdfffeaa0 20 -1 0xdfffeaa0/348. 20 -1 =
 12  1412926771963591547 1412926771963607473
 348 8.out Close 1225 5 = 0  1412926771979115786 1412926771979128359
 348 8.out Exits 122d 0xdfffeadc/reject: unknown control request

 Do you have any explanation?
 Did I make some bug in the program?

 Thanks in advance.

 Pavel




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Re: [9fans] audio device interface

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

audio(3) - some docs. Look at
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/supported_pc_hardware/index.html for
supported hardware.

And sources of device (in /pc)

2014-10-13 17:40 GMT+04:00 Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult 
enrico.weig...@gr13.net:

 Hi folks,

 could anyone point me to some documentation of the Plan9
 audio interface ?

 I'm currently thinking about using this as a replacement for
 the pulseaudio protocol (i really wanna get rid of the dbus
 crap, step by step)


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Re: [9fans] Chrome and 9

[Sergey Zhilkin]

I choose - Waste of time

Too many hardware versions (
http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices
)
And, how about vendor-locks (Google :) )?

2014-12-08 2:59 GMT+03:00 da Tyga cyberfo...@gmail.com:

 I think that Plan9Port using the underlying Linux OS might be a better
 choice.  I have also been thinking about cross-compiling from a Plan9
 install (such as that on Raspberry Pi) to Samsung ARM based ChromeBook.

 Getting Plan9 to work with fastboot and implementing device drivers for
 the various ChromeBooks might be a lot of work.  Don't know enough to
 justify my assumptions though.

 On 8 December 2014 at 06:35, Roswell Grey orangecal...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's no question that the Chromebook makes a wonderful candidate to
 integrate features of 9 into. The thing was practically BUILT for
 distributed computing, what with app servers and cloud integration tightly
 integrated into the hardware. What I was thinking was creating a chrome
 extension for 9P and the distributed file system, so that there'd be an
 easy way to connect 9 machines and maybe even create a chrome 9 grid for
 super processing. What would be your opinion on doing such a thing?
 Practical? Waste of time? Wanna help?





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[9fans] in memories of Uriel

[Sergey Zhilkin]

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Re: [9fans] RIP

[Sergey Zhilkin]

R.I.P.
Seems, he was a last one from this film ?

2015-03-24 16:48 GMT+03:00 Steve Simon st...@quintile.net:


 http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/gregory-walcott-dies-the-blameless-actor-who-couldnt-shake-off-being-a-part-of-the-worst-movie-ever-10128828.html?icn=puff-9

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Re: [9fans] sources?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Very good !

Sape is in Cisco, Geoff is in Google.

Who is in charge?

воскресенье, 26 апреля 2015 г. пользователь David du Colombier 
0in...@gmail.com написал:

 Yes, Bell Labs servers seem to be in a very bad shape.

 In the meantime, a mirror is available on http://9p.io/ (http and 9p).

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Re: [9fans] fossil+venti performance question

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hello!

imho placing fossil, venti, isect, bloom and swap on single drive is bad
idea.
As written in in http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/venti/venti.html - The
prototype Venti server is implemented for the Plan 9 operating system in
about 10,000 lines of C. The server runs on a dedicated dual 550Mhz Pentium
III processor system with 2 Gbyte of memory and is accessed over a 100Mbs
Ethernet network. The data log is stored on a 500 Gbyte MaxTronic IDE Raid
5 Array and the index resides on a string of 8 Seagate Cheetah 18XL 9 Gbyte
SCSI drives.

God ide is to store isect on multiple SSD drives :) to speed up search.

My small installation - 80Gb (PATA) 9fat, fossil, swap + 40Gb isect, bloom
drive (PATA) + 1Tb SATA as arenas. No RAID.

2015-05-04 21:51 GMT+03:00 David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com:

 I'm experiencing the same issue as well.

 When I launch vacfs on the same machine as Venti,
 reading is very slow. When I launch vacfs on another
 Plan 9 or Unix machine, reading is fast.

 I've just made some measurements when reading a file:

 Vacfs running on the same machine as Venti: 151 KB/s
 Vacfs running on another machine: 5131 KB/s

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Re: [9fans] test

[Sergey Zhilkin]

test number two :)

2015-05-18 7:46 GMT+03:00 mve...@mveety.com:

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Re: [9fans] unicode8.0.0

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Thanks !

2015-06-20 21:29 GMT+03:00 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:

 if you're running recent 9atom, /lib/unicodedata and
 the runepunct and runeclass data may be updated either
 by pulling the source or by

 ; cd /sys/src/cmd/runeclass
 ; mk nuke
 ; mk install

 i recommend pulling the source as isalpharune(2) and
 runeclass(2) have been tweaked to point to the current
 standard.

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Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on SRX/VSX rides again

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Greate !

Well done Brantley!

пятница, 22 мая 2015 г. пользователь Joseph Stewart написал:

 Great to hear Brantley!

 On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Brantley Coile brantleyco...@me.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brantleyco...@me.com'); wrote:

 I’m happy to report we are back in the storage business based on Plan 9.
 We acquired the rights to the SRX/VSX and HBA initiator drivers and will be
 selling, supporting and advancing the technology.  I had been working on a
 non-Plan 9 appliance platform to avoid any conflict with Coraid, but now
 that’s not a problem.  I’ll be integrating the new stuff I’ve been working
 on over the past several months into the Coraid products.  We’ll use The
 Brantley Coile Company to market the SRX and VSX as software, not
 hardware.  We’ll release the specs for buying your own SRX hardware.

 The SRX and VSX code will also be open sourced.

 It feels nice to have the technology back where it originated from.

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Re: [9fans] Stick

[Sergey Zhilkin]

To expensive for me, And, imo, device is useless
- no wired network
- no NORMAL external storage
- iNtel inside :)

As a terminal it is far more expensive then Rpi, as diskless cpu it useless
too.

Useless :) for me

P.S.: Yes my home mac uses Intel CPU, but it is Apple ! :)

2015-07-26 0:37 GMT+03:00 Prof Brucee prof.bru...@gmail.com:

 AUD$229

 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 How much they cost ?


 http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/10/15/meego-t01-hdmi-tv-stick-supports-android-windows-8-1-and-ubuntulinux/
 - the same

 I think they are too HOT :) And 64bit CPU comes with 32bit Windows. Lol

 2015-07-25 0:31 GMT+03:00 Prof Brucee prof.bru...@gmail.com:

 Anyone with P9 experience on the Intel Compute Stick (aka STK1A32WFC)?
 It's a lot of PC for such a small cost and form factor. I think it was only
 released in oz last week. I have ordered one.

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Re: [9fans] Stick

[Sergey Zhilkin]

How much they cost ?

http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/10/15/meego-t01-hdmi-tv-stick-supports-android-windows-8-1-and-ubuntulinux/
- the same

I think they are too HOT :) And 64bit CPU comes with 32bit Windows. Lol

2015-07-25 0:31 GMT+03:00 Prof Brucee prof.bru...@gmail.com:

 Anyone with P9 experience on the Intel Compute Stick (aka STK1A32WFC)?
 It's a lot of PC for such a small cost and form factor. I think it was only
 released in oz last week. I have ordered one.

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Re: [9fans] The 9legacy website looks bad on a mobile phone

[Sergey Zhilkin]

On iOS all seems good.

вторник, 3 ноября 2015 г. пользователь David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com>
написал:

> It should be fixed now.
>
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Re: [9fans] Wireless on the Pi?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

I use ASUS wl-330n3g as bridge. WAN to Ethernet.

2016-01-10 21:08 GMT+03:00 michaelian ennis :

> Anthony on 7/12/11 you asked about the Realtek 8188/8192 .  I've seen a
> few raspi bundles that have the EDIMax  EW-7811Un with them.  This is a
>  0x7392 : 0x7811 implementation of a RealTek RTL8188CUS  which worked out
> of the box for me with the raspian and stratux images. I easily found a
> data sheet for this device on line but it is marked confidential.   I know
> it's gauche suggest referencing linux drivers.  However they happen to be
> here:
>
> Realtek
> http://bit.ly/1gMGkGo
>
> EDIMax
> http://bit.ly/1Mh4hWo
>
> and contain PDF's themselves that may maybe helpful.
>
> Ian
>
>


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Re: [9fans] linux mount -t 9p permissions problem

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Great ! :)

2016-07-29 15:40 GMT+03:00 Costin Chirvasuta :

> I love 9P! It was the only way I could export a FUSE filesystem over
> the network and it works flawlessly!
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Costin Chirvasuta 
> wrote:
> > Well, this was because the exported directory on FreeBSD has
> > permission 0. It is the mountpoint of torrentfs
> > (github.com/anacrolix/torrent).
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Costin Chirvasuta 
> wrote:
> >> I have ufs (https://github.com/rminnich/go9p/) running on a FreeBSD
> >> box and I'm trying to mount it on linux but the directory has
> >> permission 0:
> >>
> >> ~$ 9mount -in 'tcp!fs!5640' fs
> >> mount -t 9p -o
> tcp,trans=tcp,name=ctn,uname=ctn,noextend,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,dfltuid=1000,dfltgid=1000,port=5640
> >> 192.168.0.3 fs
> >> ~$ 9mount -i 'tcp!fs!5640' fs
> >> ~$ ls fs
> >> ls: cannot open directory fs: Permission denied
> >> ~$ ls -ld fs
> >> d- 1 ctn ctn 0 Jul 26 23:52 fs
> >>
> >> Any idea how I can fix this? I tried adding umask=0002 as a mount
> >> option but it doesn't seem to work.
>
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Re: [9fans] Nemo's Opus

[Sergey Zhilkin]

5 cents from me, as I'm fan of Nemo's writings (and code also) link to his
papers https://lsub.org/who/nemo/papers.html

2016-09-09 18:54 GMT+03:00 Brantley Coile :

> I’ve been reading Nemo’s “Notes on the Plan 9 3rd edition Kernel Source”
> after a number of years. Three things struck me on this reading of what is
> a great and much appreciated work. First, is what a good job Francisco did
> with this work. Even though he never finished it, having been overtaking, I
> think, by the 4th edition, it is a very good introduction to an operating
> system suitable for instruction in a undergraduate or graduate class in
> operating systems. I, fortunately, don’t have to teach, but if I did, I
> would certainly use the work.
>
> Second, I’m struck by how much larger the system had grown by the time
> Nemo wrote the commentary. I had the good fortune to read John Lion’s
> commentary on Plan 9 during my brief tenure at Bell Labs in 1990. If I
> remember right, the kernel I was using was bout 25,000 lines. The first
> version I used outside the Labs was the 2nd edition it weighs in at a hefty
> 39,000 lines. The current system I’m running, the 32 bit one, not the 64
> bit one, is 140,000 lines. I’m not sure the size of the 3rd edition, but
> the growth is interesting.
>
> The third thing that struct me is the changes in the Intel architecture
> since the original PC based port. The first Plan 9 for PC ran on AT 386
> machines in the 1990’s, if I remember right. Those were the days of ISA and
> EISA and before PCI made it’s plug-and-play appearance on the scene. It
> seems that while the PC stuff has kept up with most of the many changes in
> the Intel hardware platform over the years, there is still some cruft from
> the old days.
>
> All very interesting to think about. I highly recommend Nemo’s book.
> Here’s a link to it.
>
> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.
> 75.5409=rep1=pdf
>
>   Brantley Coile
>   b...@coraid.com
>   http://coraid.com
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Re: [9fans] "The Name Game"

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Agree !

2016-10-08 2:05 GMT+03:00 Skip Tavakkolian :

> A wonderful and entertaining talk by Charles about key ideas in Plan 9 and
> Inferno.
>
> https://youtu.be/3d1SHOCCDn0
>
> Thanks also to Ron for posting it.
>
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Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com hates AppleWebKit?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi all !
Get right response from server, with macOS Sierra beta 10.12.1 (16B2338c)
and Safari 10.0.1 (12602.2.14.0.1)

2016-10-04 15:59 GMT+03:00 arisawa :

> I can get proper response from http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/ by
> using mac/osx safari.
>
>
> > 2016/10/03 2:42、James A. Robinson  のメール：
> >
> > So... Does Alcatel-Lucent have a problem with AppleWebKit
> > users on principle?
> >
> > It looks to me as though my problem with browsing around
> > under http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/ (and other subpages)
> > is because the server doesn't like the User-Agent string:
> >
> > $ telnet plan9.bell-labs.com 80
> > Trying 135.104.24.16...
> > Connected to plan9.bell-labs.com.
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> > GET /sources/contrib/ HTTP/1.1
> > Host: plan9.bell-labs.com
> > Connection: keep-alive
> > Cache-Control: max-age=0
> > Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_11_6)
> AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.116 Safari/537.36
> > Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,
> image/webp,*/*;q=0.8
> > DNT: 1
> > Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, sdch
> > Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8
> >
> > HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> > Connection closed by foreign host.
> >
> > And here it is again w/o the User-Agent string:
> >
> > $ telnet plan9.bell-labs.com 80
> > Trying 135.104.24.16...
> > Connected to plan9.bell-labs.com.
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> > GET /sources/contrib/ HTTP/1.1
> > Host: plan9.bell-labs.com
> > Connection: keep-alive
> > Cache-Control: max-age=0
> > Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
> > Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,
> image/webp,*/*;q=0.8
> > DNT: 1
> > Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, sdch
> > Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8
> >
> > HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> > Server: Plan9
> > Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 17:29:09 GMT
> > Connection: close
> > Last-Modified: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 22:14:11 GMT
> > Content-Type: text/html
> >
> > [... proper body returned...]
> >
> > I tried playing around with the UA value and found that if I change
> > AppleWebKit to something else such as AppleWebKis I get a
> > response...
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
>
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Re: [9fans] IWP9

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Any dates ? Crazy idea - Kazan, Russia.

Ready to meet :) he he

среда, 9 ноября 2016 г. пользователь Kaviraj Launchyard написал:

> even most of https://plan9.io/plan9/ stopped working.. :(
>
>
> On Wednesday 09 November 2016 03:44 PM, hiro wrote:
>
>> destroyed the Labs? details please.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [9fans] IWP9

[Sergey Zhilkin]

If you wish :)

четверг, 10 ноября 2016 г. пользователь Jeff Sickel написал:

> I'm thinking it should be in a hangar.
>
> -jas
>
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Skip Tavakkolian  > wrote:
>
> crazier things have been happening lately.  anything is possible.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:29 PM michaelian ennis <
> michaelian.en...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I just realized that the next would be the 9th International Workshop on
>> Plan 9.  I wonder where it will be.
>>
>> Ian
>>
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Re: [9fans] Job interview questions

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Well done !

2016-11-10 10:08 GMT+03:00 James A. Robinson :

> Priceless, thank you for making me laugh! :)
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 23:01 Kurt H Maier  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 07:03:24PM +1300, Andrew Simmons wrote:
> > I’ve just been asked to respond to the following. Apart from number 8,
> where the answer is clearly “because they are clinically insane”, I am at a
> loss. Any hints from the group?
> >
>
> Happy to help.
>
> > 1)   What is the base object in .Net
>
> Despair.
>
> > 2)   Which version of Asp.Net MVC have you used
>
> The wrong one.
>
> > 3)   Explain MVC in general
>
> The 'model' is your database connection.  This never works.  The 'view'
> is what displays error messages to the user.  The 'controller' is what
> allows the user to send injection attacks to your datastore.
>
> > 4)   Which version of the .Net are you most familiar with
>
> 3.5, unless your organization has money, in which case 4.5 and above.
>
> > 5)   Explain why you would use an outer join vs an inner join
>
> An outer join is used when you don't clearly understand your search
> algorithm.  An inner join is used when you got your data structures
> wrong.
>
> > 6)   Can you explain the request Flow in Asp.Net MVC
>
> Sure!  It goes like this:  request-> collection -> base -> handlergetter
> -> handler -> controllerfactory -> controller -> actionrunner -> filter
> -> action -> result -> exception -> 500 error.
>
> > 7)   Explain Dependency Injection
>
> This is what we call passing arguments.
>
> > 8)   Why would a developer choose to use EF
>
> So that we don't have to know how to look up the arguments we want to
> pass.
>
> > 9)   What is the difference between Javascript and jQuery
>
> Nothing.  There is no such thing as javascript; it is an archaic term
> for jquery, which is now known as react.
>
> > 10) What are extensions methods
>
> These used to be called 'functions' but that term has been deprecated
> both because procedural programming is for squares and those functional
> programming kids keep overloading terminology.
>
> > 11) What source control systems have you used
>
> Is this a trick question?  Or are you considering 'github' and 'git' to
> be different things?  I don't understand what you are asking.
>
> > 12) Have you gathered systems requirements from clients? If so,
> please give some details
>
> Clients are the wrong place to gather systems requirements.  Attempting
> to interact with clients for any amount of time quickly leads to
> injection dependency.  The proper place to gather systems requirements
> is the project budget comptroller (to determine scale) and the executive
> vice president of sales (to determine scope).
>
> Fingers crossed for the followup interview!
>
> khm
>
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Re: [9fans] What does your fileserver consist of?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Sorry, for misspelling(iOS trying to "help" me)  Rpi and Brantley I meant.

среда, 12 октября 2016 г. пользователь Sergey Zhilkin написал:

> Hi !
>
> Rip is good for running terminal. It do not have modern (and old :) )
> interfaces to storage. I'm use old big tower PC, with several hard drives.
> I think Eric or Brantkey can tell more, as he still run Kfs. (Cwfs)
>
> среда, 12 октября 2016 г. пользователь Tyga написал:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> I think you should be fine.  I'm using five rescued HP ePCs
>> <http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c00340466=76322>
>>  all
>> with PIII @800MHz, 128MB RAM and a range of HDs, including one one with
>> 80GB.  All connected via a HP ProCurve 1G switch.  I have one RPi2
>> connected to the cluster and it, too, works fine with them.  Still having
>> struggles with auth, etc.
>>
>> For what it's worth, I have an ePC booting off a compact flash card (via
>> an IDE adaptor) - that one is rather slow.  I haven't benchmarked this
>> cluster against anything, but my impression is that it's Ok, but a single
>> contemporary PC seems faster (SSD, SATA3, etc)
>>
>> Well that's one dodgy data point for you!
>>
>>
>> On 12 October 2016 at 11:33, James A. Robinson <jim.robin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> One of the things I'm thinking about is setting up a full Plan 9
>>> cluster, meaning one of the components would be a stand-alone
>>> fileserver hooked up to a decent amount of storage.
>>>
>>> I was wondering what experience people have had with slower or faster
>>> machines in this role?
>>>
>>> I was wondering whether or not it'd be feasible to hook up something
>>> like http://tinyurl.com/jgov5gc (Amazon.com) to something small like a
>>> Raspberry Pi 3, or if the I/O would be too much for that kind of
>>> computer to handle.
>>>
>>> Does anyone here run a fileserver on a small computer like a
>>> raspberry pi 3, or perhaps something like an Intel nuc?
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be supporting multiple users, just myself moving between
>>> a couple of devices.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [9fans] What does your fileserver consist of?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

Rip is good for running terminal. It do not have modern (and old :) )
interfaces to storage. I'm use old big tower PC, with several hard drives.
I think Eric or Brantkey can tell more, as he still run Kfs. (Cwfs)

среда, 12 октября 2016 г. пользователь Tyga написал:

> Hi Jim,
>
> I think you should be fine.  I'm using five rescued HP ePCs
> 
>  all
> with PIII @800MHz, 128MB RAM and a range of HDs, including one one with
> 80GB.  All connected via a HP ProCurve 1G switch.  I have one RPi2
> connected to the cluster and it, too, works fine with them.  Still having
> struggles with auth, etc.
>
> For what it's worth, I have an ePC booting off a compact flash card (via
> an IDE adaptor) - that one is rather slow.  I haven't benchmarked this
> cluster against anything, but my impression is that it's Ok, but a single
> contemporary PC seems faster (SSD, SATA3, etc)
>
> Well that's one dodgy data point for you!
>
>
> On 12 October 2016 at 11:33, James A. Robinson  > wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> One of the things I'm thinking about is setting up a full Plan 9
>> cluster, meaning one of the components would be a stand-alone
>> fileserver hooked up to a decent amount of storage.
>>
>> I was wondering what experience people have had with slower or faster
>> machines in this role?
>>
>> I was wondering whether or not it'd be feasible to hook up something
>> like http://tinyurl.com/jgov5gc (Amazon.com) to something small like a
>> Raspberry Pi 3, or if the I/O would be too much for that kind of
>> computer to handle.
>>
>> Does anyone here run a fileserver on a small computer like a
>> raspberry pi 3, or perhaps something like an Intel nuc?
>>
>> I wouldn't be supporting multiple users, just myself moving between
>> a couple of devices.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] ps bug

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Seems ps (shell script from hell) uses plan9port sort. And coreutils sort
do not undarstand +1 parameter.

Try to place plan9port path before any other.

2017-04-11 9:54 GMT+03:00 Bruce Ellis :

> using plan9ports' "ps -e" does not print all processes. dirread /proc fun
> I guess.
>
> brucee
>
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Re: [9fans] ps bug

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Also, on Linux (OpenSUSE 42.2) i have same output of p9p ps -e and ps ax in
line count

2017-04-11 10:21 GMT+03:00 Sergey Zhilkin <szhil...@gmail.com>:

> Seems ps (shell script from hell) uses plan9port sort. And coreutils sort
> do not undarstand +1 parameter.
>
> Try to place plan9port path before any other.
>
> 2017-04-11 9:54 GMT+03:00 Bruce Ellis <bruce.el...@gmail.com>:
>
>> using plan9ports' "ps -e" does not print all processes. dirread /proc fun
>> I guess.
>>
>> brucee
>>
>>
>
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Re: [9fans] ps bug

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hmm checked twice

zhilkin@szhilkin:~/Work/Mem> ps ax | wc -l
350
szhilkin@szhilkin:~/Work/Mem> 9 ps -e | wc -l
350


2017-04-11 10:51 GMT+03:00 Bruce Ellis <bruce.el...@gmail.com>:

> Doesn't help.
>
> brucee
>
> On 11 April 2017 at 17:21, Sergey Zhilkin <szhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Seems ps (shell script from hell) uses plan9port sort. And coreutils sort
>> do not undarstand +1 parameter.
>>
>> Try to place plan9port path before any other.
>>
>> 2017-04-11 9:54 GMT+03:00 Bruce Ellis <bruce.el...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> using plan9ports' "ps -e" does not print all processes. dirread /proc
>>> fun I guess.
>>>
>>> brucee
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Zhilkin Sergey
>>
>
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Re: [9fans] Discord community for Plan 9

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Joined. Thanks :)

2017-07-23 19:18 GMT+03:00 Joseph Stewart :

> negativity probably won't build a community either. let the results speak
> for the actions, not your biases.
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:11 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> a community is made of people, not some stupid computer protocol.
>>
>>
>


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Re: [9fans] git

[Sergey Zhilkin]

I use go-git, it works fine.

2017-11-30 5:52 GMT+03:00 Jules Merit :

> # man hit
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 6:37 PM, "Dave MacFarlane"  wrote:
>
>> David du Colombier's rc script is required to bootstrap my version
>> anyways, so it's the best place to start (though dgit should work to
>> for "go get"  if you bind it to have the name "git" in your
>> namespace). The upside of his is that it's more reliable and is less
>> likely to have a bug that eats your children, but the downside is that
>> it isn't a git client.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>>  wrote:
>> > David du Colombier (djc) has a rc script.  I've used it to keep up with
>> Go.
>> >
>> > http://9legacy.org/9legacy/tools/git
>> >
>> > driusan has written one in Go:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/driusan/dgit
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:00 AM Steve Simon  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A few years ago there was some discussion about plan9 git clients.
>> >>
>> >> Is there any solution for using git from plan9, or do I have to use an
>> >> inferior OS?
>> >>
>> >> -Steve
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> - Dave
>>
>>


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Re: [9fans] goodbye cruel world

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Yea, TRUE story.

Sorry for noise.

2018-01-07 2:21 GMT+03:00 Jules Merit :

> AM,
> molly pot, Hollywood 666
> James Thomas Inferno plan9 doom
> E3M8 .dis
>
> On Dec 31, 2017 3:20 AM, "Andrew Wingorodov"  wrote:
>
>> True story
>> https://goo.gl/r2ueQC
>>
>> Sorry for offtop
>> hope to see you soon
>> --
>> http://andr.ru
>>
>>


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Re: [9fans] rio : not completely rio-like : advice from packard!

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Run rio in Plan 9, not X11.

ср, 3 окт. 2018 г. в 11:20, hiro <23h...@gmail.com>:

> there's no time to fix X11
>
>

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Re: [9fans] [ot] the unix philosophy : how useful under plan9?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi !

First read - http://9p.io/sys/doc/9.html
Then - http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/
To be sure.

пн, 1 окт. 2018 г. в 17:38, Mayuresh Kathe :

> hi,
>
> how useful is good knowledge of the unix philosophy under plan9?
> on a common sensical level, it seems, with plan9 being the next step in
> the evolution of unix, knowledge of the unix philosophy might be
> valuable since it might get carried forward, but if it's otherwise, may
> i know of any other document than mike gancarz's book to read up on?
>
> thanks,
>
> ~mayuresh
>
>
>

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[9fans] Plan 9 DNS server and dnsflagday

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Hi all!

Are we ready for this ?

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Re: [9fans] Plan 9 DNS server and dnsflagday

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Thanks to all!

вт, 22 янв. 2019 г. в 21:59, Steve Simon :

> my understanding is that this is fine, as long as the other RR’s in the
> message are processed correctly.
>
>  -Steve
>
>
> > On 22 Jan 2019, at 5:05 pm, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
> >
> > we do not support edns at all. the Topt rr type is just ignored.
> >
> > --
> > cinap
>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Plan 9 64-bit?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

http://www.9gridchan.org/ - they have 64 bit iso, that works for me in
VMWare, VitrualBox and bare metal.

ср, 2 янв. 2019 г. в 03:15, Benjamin Huntsman <
bhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu>:

> Anyone manage to get any of the 64-bit stuff running on VMware recently?
> I’ve only had luck with 9front recently...
>
> Thanks!



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Re: [9fans] Six year ANTS-iversary

[Sergey Zhilkin]

Congrats !

пн, 11 мар. 2019 г. в 21:48, :

> Tanna: For six years, our ANTS have been upon the Earth, what is their
> status?
> Eros: Our Plan 9 plan is succeeding at last.  Numerous Earth
> people have accepted our namespace technologies.
> Tanna: Let our efforts be propagated across global grid networks!
> Eros: It is already done.  Few may be aware, but our ANTS colony
> spawns have encircled the planet.
>
> Hey 9fans.  As Jim Anchower used to say - been a long time since I
> rapped at ya.  Most of the people who are potentially interested in my
> Plan 9 software and projects probably already know about them, since I
> am active in several other communication channels, but I figured I
> should drop a post here, just for the record.
>
> ANTS development has continued for the past six years.  It
> transitioned to being primarily 9front based in 2015, and support for
> Bell Labs 9 was relegated to a historical-preservation repo at the end
> of 2017.  The people with a strong traditionalist bent didn't seem to
> be interested anyway.  There has been a live/install iso image for the
> past year or so, which brought a lot more users.  I'll be releasing a
> new iso image sometime during the next week or so, I think.
>
> In addition to ANTS software, the long dormant public grid project was
> resurrected in early 2018 and has been far more successful than the
> early attempts in the 2008-10 era.  It has a small but active user
> community and has been a nice place for collaborative software
> development and testing.  The technical foundations are a bit rickety
> and insecure, but we haven't had many issues so far.
>
> The most significant project is the Spawngrid, which came online in
> late 2018.  It is a rather ambitious attempt to use ANTS as a platform
> for a "competitor" to service platforms like AWS/azure/GCE.  It has a
> global network of venti servers which replicate data to each other and
> allow multiple independent user environments to be spawned on the
> attached cpu servers.  It has also worked surprisingly well, although
> it has only a small number of regular users.
>
> Most recently, I have been pursing historical investigation and
> recreation of systems based on the hypercubic computers which rose to
> prominence in the late 1980s.  Most interesting (to me) are the
> systems from nCUBE, which transitioned during the 1990s to a Plan 9
> based (!) operating system called Transit which was used for streaming
> video appliance servers such as the Mediacube 4.  I am very very
> interested in the Transit OS and this history, and I can find almost
> no substantive information about the Transit variant of Plan 9,
> although information on the earlier generation of nCUBE systems is
> fairly plentiful.
>
> Information and links and blog posts and downloads about all this
> stuff is spread across the 9gridchan.org ANTS-empire.
>
> Peace and Love to all,
> Mycroftiv
>
>

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