Re: [abcusers] Exporting to Midi.

[Frank Nordberg]

Jack Campin wrote:
...
(I don't know of a cheap
or freeware MIDI editor for the Mac, is there one?)
Oh yes there is.
It's called MidiGraphy and is still an absolute wonder even though it 
hasn't been updated for ages. It's $20 shareware with unlimited trial.

You should be able to pick it up at any deent shareware site, but if 
not, email me in private and I'll send it to you.

Frank Nordberg
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Re: [abcusers] Exporting to Midi.

[Jack Campin]

>>> there is a
>>> bug in Quicktime 6 which causes long notes to be truncated (played
>>> staccato) when generating a midi file. [...] so another possible
>>> work around is to generate the midi file at a fast tempo to keep
>>> all delta times within two bytes, then use a midi editor to change
>>> the tempo.
>> Is there a tool for bulk conversion of QT movie files to MIDIs?
>> That would be easier if it existed.
> No, and if there were it would depend on Quicktime, and would suffer 
> from the same bug as BarFly and Quicktime Player Pro.

Could BarFly not do the same thing for you, postprocessing the MIDI
files in the same way a human editor would?  (I don't know of a cheap
or freeware MIDI editor for the Mac, is there one?)

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Re: [abcusers] Exporting to Midi.

[Phil Taylor]

On 31 Mar 2004, at 00:53, Jack Campin wrote:

Phil Taylor wrote:
there is a
bug in Quicktime 6 which causes long notes to be truncated (played
staccato) when generating a midi file.  If you can use Quicktime movie
files instead of midi it's not a problem.  Likewise if you can use a
pre- OS X operating system you can use Quicktime 4 (last good one).
The problem happens when the delta time for note lengths requires more
than two bytes to express it, so another possible work around is to
generate the midi file at a fast tempo to keep all delta times within
two bytes, then use a midi editor to change the tempo.
Yuck.  And the duration required isn't all that long either.

Is there a tool for bulk conversion of QT movie files to MIDIs?
That would be easier if it existed.
No, and if there were it would depend on Quicktime, and would suffer 
from
the same bug as BarFly and Quicktime Player Pro.

Just what has been going wrong with the QuickTime development
process that they've shipped such buggy products for so long?
The guys that designed Quicktime Music Architecture left Apple, and were
not replaced.  QTMA itself was not successful.  Although it plays
music beautifully it has a complex and confusing API, only really of
interest to musician programmers (as opposed to those who just want to
record and playback audio).  Very few programs depend on it.  The rest 
of
Quicktime _has_ been successful, but the introduction of OS X with its
built-in Core Audio has resulted in QTMA being sidelined.

The last time I discussed these problems with an Apple engineer he said
that I really ought to be using Core audio instead.  Trouble is, CA
starts with midi.  I'd have to re-write my software to generate midi
instead of a QTMA tune to use it, in which case I would have solved
the original problem anyway!
Phil Taylor

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Re: [abcusers] Exporting to Midi.

[Jack Campin]

Phil Taylor wrote:
> there is a 
>bug in Quicktime 6 which causes long notes to be truncated (played 
>staccato) when generating a midi file.  If you can use Quicktime movie 
>files instead of midi it's not a problem.  Likewise if you can use a 
>pre- OS X operating system you can use Quicktime 4 (last good one).  
>The problem happens when the delta time for note lengths requires more 
>than two bytes to express it, so another possible work around is to 
>generate the midi file at a fast tempo to keep all delta times within 
>two bytes, then use a midi editor to change the tempo.

Yuck.  And the duration required isn't all that long either.

Is there a tool for bulk conversion of QT movie files to MIDIs?
That would be easier if it existed.

Just what has been going wrong with the QuickTime development
process that they've shipped such buggy products for so long?

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Re: [abcusers] Exporting to Midi.

[Neil Jennings]

My program HARMONY imports abc, including multiple voices, and writes MIDI.
It also has facilities to add MIDI effects (modulation, pitch bend etc) to 
individual notes via 'note styles'
The latest release also lets you play tunes in via MIDI keyboard (in step 
time only)
See my web stie www.greenhedges.com
Neil

At 07:03 PM 3/16/04, you wrote:
I'm sure this has been covered before, but does anyone have a favored way 
of generating a midi file from abc?

I own ABC2Win, and have been playing with BarFly.   I've been unable to 
redirect PlayQABC output to the midi synth to a file... I would think it's 
possible, but I've not been able to figure it out.

So.. looking for favorite methods... preferably a player that's aware of 
the Rhythm R: field, rolls and repeats and the like and plays them 
correctly   PlayQABC may be primitive, but it does alright :)

Thanks   Oh.. btw..  operating systems avail are Win2k, MacOsX, and 
*nix, provided admin access is not necessary.

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Re: [abcusers] Exporting to Midi.

[Phil Taylor]

On 16 Mar 2004, at 19:03, Christian M. Cepel wrote:

I'm sure this has been covered before, but does anyone have a favored 
way of generating a midi file from abc?

I own ABC2Win, and have been playing with BarFly.   I've been unable 
to redirect PlayQABC output to the midi synth to a file... I would 
think it's possible, but I've not been able to figure it out.

So.. looking for favorite methods... preferably a player that's aware 
of the Rhythm R: field, rolls and repeats and the like and plays them 
correctly   PlayQABC may be primitive, but it does alright :)

Thanks   Oh.. btw..  operating systems avail are Win2k, MacOsX, 
and *nix, provided admin access is not necessary.
BarFly will do most of what you want under MacOS X; however, there is a 
bug in Quicktime 6 which causes long notes to be truncated (played 
staccato) when generating a midi file.  If you can use Quicktime movie 
files instead of midi it's not a problem.  Likewise if you can use a 
pre- OS X operating system you can use Quicktime 4 (last good one).  
The problem happens when the delta time for note lengths requires more 
than two bytes to express it, so another possible work around is to 
generate the midi file at a fast tempo to keep all delta times within 
two bytes, then use a midi editor to change the tempo.

Phil Taylor

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[abcusers] Exporting to Midi.

[Christian M. Cepel]

I'm sure this has been covered before, but does anyone have a favored 
way of generating a midi file from abc?

I own ABC2Win, and have been playing with BarFly.   I've been unable to 
redirect PlayQABC output to the midi synth to a file... I would think 
it's possible, but I've not been able to figure it out.

So.. looking for favorite methods... preferably a player that's aware of 
the Rhythm R: field, rolls and repeats and the like and plays them 
correctly   PlayQABC may be primitive, but it does alright :)

Thanks   Oh.. btw..  operating systems avail are Win2k, MacOsX, and 
*nix, provided admin access is not necessary.

--

 //Christian

Christian Marcus Cepel| And the wrens have returned &
[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq:12384980  | are nesting; In the hollow of
371 Crown Point, Columbia, MO | that oak where his heart once
65203-2202 573.999.2370   | had been; And he lifts up his
Computer Support Specialist, Sr.  | arms in a blessing; For being
University of Missouri - Columbia | born again.--Rich Mullins
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