Re: [AI] Problem in reading Hindi content of scanned documents

2010-09-06 Thread Arun Sharma
Hi Himanshu!!!
How are you beta

If you want to install new hindi font in your computer system then u have to
go to control panel and then open font folder. Here go to file menu and open
install new fonts option then u give the address of ur fonts which are
stored in your system or in your pen drive.
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[AI] Fwd: A Very Serious Warning... Awareness!!!

2010-09-06 Thread akhilesh
I got this mail from one of my friend and thought important to share
with you all. so here it goes.


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VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL TRAVELLERS ABROAD.





*Dear Friends,

Yesterday only I  came to know of a case from a friend of mine which is very
scary. One of his friends was traveling to UK via Dubai. Unfortunately he
was carrying a packet of Khas Khas which is a commonly used spice in some
Indian curries and sweets. Khas Khas is also known as poppy seed which can
be sprouted to grow narcotics (afeem etc.).



This innocent person did not know that recently the laws in UAE and other
Gulf countries have been revised and carrying Khas Khas is punishable
with minimum
20 years of imprisonment or even worse with death penalty. Currently, the
person is in a jail in Dubai for the last two weeks. His friends are
frantically trying hard for his release but are finding that this has become
a very very serious case. Lawyers are asking huge fees amounting to AED
100,000 even to appear in the court to plead for his innocence.



Please forward this email to all you know specially in India. They should
know the seriousness of this matter and should never ever carry even
minutest quantities of the following items when traveling to Gulf countries:



1. Khas Khas whether raw, roasted or cooked.
2. Paan
3. Beetle nut (supari and its products, e.g. Paan Parag etc.)

The penalties are very severe and it could destroy the life of an innocent
person.





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Re: [AI] Problem in reading Hindi content of scanned documents

2010-09-06 Thread Himanshu Sahu
I am fine, thank you sir,
The actual problem is that to where from get Hindi fonts?
 And the second thing is that I wish Lekha make read the scanned Hindi
documents and as per the discussion, there is no OCR which recognizes
Hindi characters.

And besides, I think making changes in the option mentioned by you in
control panel, enables us to type and then read Hindi contents through
the programmes such as SAFA. Isn’t it?



On 9/6/10, Arun Sharma arun.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Himanshu!!!
 How are you beta

 If you want to install new hindi font in your computer system then u have to
 go to control panel and then open font folder. Here go to file menu and open
 install new fonts option then u give the address of ur fonts which are
 stored in your system or in your pen drive.
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Re: [AI] formula for prime numbers

2010-09-06 Thread Sanjay
I don't think there is any universally accepted mathematical formula for
prime numbers.  Many mathematicians tried and failed, because their formula
didn't work with all the prime numbers.
But it is very easy to generate prime numbers  by computers.  It is
difficult to decide by any formula whether a large number is prime or not.
So, I advice you to take the help of computers in case of large numbers.






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Re: [AI] List of Talks-Compatible Handsets.

2010-09-06 Thread Amiyo Biswas
It works in jaws 10, not in jaws 11, in my case. I used it on the open 
message window.

Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] List of Talks-Compatible Handsets.



In my case where I'm using XP with JAWS10 it works very well provided you
hit the JAWS key combination and not choosing the same option by right
clicking or by hitting the application key. And also, the key combination
has to be used after the mail has been opened. And please remember, where
laptop keyboard layout is being used, this key combination has to be done
with your caps key, and regular insert key would not work just as it 
happens

in the case of checking the battery status. (Don't know about the desktop
keyboard layout).
Vikas Kapoor,
MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
- Original Message - 
From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] List of Talks-Compatible Handsets.


As someone has already pointed out, it does not work with access India
mails and one has to do it manually. Vetri.

On 05/09/2010, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:

I am replying to this message using insert+shift+r. I am using jaws 11.
Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message -
From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] List of Talks-Compatible Handsets.



yes, using this keystroke you can reply directly to the sender, instead
replying to the group.

- Original Message -
From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] List of Talks-Compatible Handsets.



Hello,

I just used the jaws keystroke insert+shift+r to reply to sender. I
wanted to thank Vetry for the site. But it went to the list. Isn't the
keystroke working? As far as I remember, the same thing happened in my
case some time back. Then I thought, the mistake was on my part.
Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message -
From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] List of Talks-Compatible Handsets.



Although this link lists supported models, it has not been updated.
Funny that the producers themselves don't update the site.

http://nuance.com/for-individuals/by-solution/talks-zooms/phones/index.htm

On 04/09/2010, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

Though the list of talks-compatible mobile sets has been posted on 
the

list
several times, I don't have a copy. I could not find out the latest 
on

the
web. Can someone post it for me, I mean the latest one?

Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 91-9433464329
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Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

2010-09-06 Thread Srikanth Kanuri
nothing for me here working perfectly fine:

how much of R.A.M they are using?


as per my knowledge 2 G.B is required to run the O.S so a RAM of above
3 or 4 G.B is recommended. usually this problem occurs when memory
that can be utilized is less.

using on the dell note book win 7 64 bit O.S studio with Core i 3
processor and 4 G.B of RAM DDR2 without any problem.

further solutions could be disable arrow feature which kills lot of
resources it is simple and easy. set a classic theme of windows.

try disabling gazettes that are running unnecessarily.

disable unwanted processes from MSCONFIG.

reduce the programs running in start up.

disable your anti virus firewall to know whether it is blocking
JFW.exe files if so set a ruling in your firewall to unblock it note:
for unblocking a program refer to your anti virus manual.

defrag your hard drive to improve system performance and jaws support.

Disable unsupported programs and themes by jaws.

clear Temp and log files and repair your registry using a free program
C cleaner.

hope it might help.

Srikanth

On 9/6/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Same problem here with some of my friends, who use jaws 11 with windows 7 in
 64 bit PC.
 Jaws does not keep pace with key commands and reads the full message or line
 before responding to another command given while first is in progress. This
 causes much needless inconvenience.
 Any suggestions?


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of raghuraman
 kalyanaraman
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:42 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

 friends i have started using jaws 64 with windows 7
 but here is a peculiar problem with jaws
 now when i use the keys in the keyboard, jaws speaks the full sentence
 and only then it goes to the next line.
 it doesn't  immediately go to the next line when i press the key
 in short jaws speaks the full version and doesnt co odinate with the
 key functions whenever we press
 hope i am clear
 please give me a solution to this
 cheers raghu

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread Amit Bhatt

Dear Rajesh bhai, Kanchan and others,

I haven't tried to put my point across on Age limitation of Scribe against 
any suggestion or thought but I wanted to raise my own suggestion pertaining 
to eligibility criteria of Scribe. Following are some more points to be 
suggested from my end.


1. If the Visually Impaired candidate appearing in the exam like Music, the 
Writer should be from same stream.
In Jan 2010, one of my friends in Delhi appeared in the  exam conducted by 
Kendriya Vidyalay Sangathan for the post of Music teacher for Primary level. 
he was provided with the Writer who was studding in 9th standard and having 
no knowledge of Music. As a result, the child was not able to understand 
what the candidate is dictating him. It has happened since writing of Music 
has some special symbols, notations and so on. Secondly, the Candidate had 
to taken two exam in the same day and the Scribe was much tired seating and 
writing two exams one by another.
By sharing this incidence, I just want to convey that such problems will 
always arrive if a Child of 9th Class writes an exam of higher level for the 
longer hours. The exam was indeed for the primary level teacher but we all 
know that the syllabus of such kind of examinations will not be as simple or 
easy as class 5th examination. hence, the Scribe should be only one standard 
junior to the standard of the Examinee. No matters whether Exam is being 
conducted for the primary, TGT, PGT or UGC level. According to me, my friend 
would have got the Scribe of Graduation level since he was already Post 
Graduate.
2. Some time the Examination Centre provide us the Writer whose writing 
skills are not that good. this is also not acceptable to me. If I am seating 
for the exam, I am not suppose to tell him the spelling of each word, or 
symbols and other writing manners in the exam. In this way, my entire time 
will waste in dictating him the spelling and all. At least the Scribe should 
have the genuine knowledge and idea to write an exam. Someone very rightly 
said that if the Centre is ready to provide us the Scribe, the Candidate 
should be allowed to meet his or her Scribe at least 24 ours before the exam 
taking  place. I would say it even before 48 hours. so if the Candidate is 
not satisfied at the comfort level with his Scribe, he can request the 
Authority to change the Scribe.
I know another lady who was appearing in the NET Exam. The Scribe was 
arranged by UGC only and again he was not found up to the mark. The Scribe 
had no idea about how to write that paper and his entire concentration was 
in talking about Scribe Fee to be given by UGC. he again and again used to 
complain about the lesser amount to be given from the Centre. The Examinee 
tried to make her Scribe understand to just to focus on writing the Exam but 
the Scribe was constantly trying to show his strain and tiredness saying 
that the Money is given to me is not sufficient. at the end of the Exam, 
when the Candidate asked the Scribe whether any Question is left, he said: 
No madam, nothing is left. You do not be worried. But after the Exam, the 
Candidate was shocked to know that her Scribe has left a Question of 40 
Marks on Sociology!
What I mean to say that we are talking about the qualification of Scribe, I 
am unhappy to observe this pathetic condition of Scribes writing the exams 
for the VI people. I am sorry to say but a Visually Impaired Candidate 
cannot afford to lose anything just because of silliness of his Scribe. if 
this is the case, you never know if I am telling my Writer to Write Delhi, 
and he writes Mumbai instead. so, above example also compel us to have 
doubts on the loyalty and honesty of the Scribe. I therefore, request you 
all to think about all these aspects while drafting the norms.


regards,

Amit Bhatt


- Original Message - 
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



Dear Amit
Nobody, to my knowledge, has tried to include age limit or so for scribes 
in suggestions given here.
I am afraid if my statement about scribe eligibility cannot be properly 
interpreted, I would shut up and let others draft guidelines wisely, 
hoping to benefit from them.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt

Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 12:03 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

In my opinion, when the necessary credentials and Certificates of Scribe 
are

shown to the examination authority, there is no point of even thinking of
age limit unnecessary. We all know age is now no more barrier in our
education. finding a writer is always not that easy and, we are trying to
make this task more tough by framing out the norm like age limit and so 
on.

Suppose I am a scribe, my age is 35 but I am currently 

[AI] Discrimination against blind and other disables in admission of B.Ed courses.

2010-09-06 Thread gautam
Dear Access Indian friends,

I take this opportunity to bring to your notice one more example of state
sponsored discrimination against PWD in implementation of theory  of equal
opportunities, protection of rights and full participation.  I also wish to
have  your comments and suggestions to initiate the appropriate action.   

 

Actually one month back, on the behalf of NFB, Karnataka I filed a RTI
application to all the B. Ed colleges of the state for seeking the correct
informations about status of reservation of seats for blind and other
disables in B. Ed courses.  In response to these  applications what I have
been informed according to that the persons with more than 75% disability
are not allowed to seek admission in B. Ed courses in Karnataka.   One of
the colleges has informed me that they don't give the admission to blind in
B. Ed courses because they  have no  facilities to teach them.   

 

Looking forward for you expertise comments and suggestions on the matter. 

 

With regards,

 

Gautam Agarwal 

President,

National Federation of the Blind

Karnataka Branch

Bangalore.

 

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Re: [AI] Discrimination against blind and other disables in admission of B.Ed courses.

2010-09-06 Thread erenuka
No such discrimination exist in Kerala for admission.  But recently the
government is discouraging the appoinment of the blind teachers saying
that the teaching method has been changed and the blind would find it 
difficult to follow the new method.
On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 15:41 +0530, gautam wrote:
 Dear Access Indian friends,
 
 I take this opportunity to bring to your notice one more example of state
 sponsored discrimination against PWD in implementation of theory  of equal
 opportunities, protection of rights and full participation.  I also wish to
 have  your comments and suggestions to initiate the appropriate action.   
 
  
 
 Actually one month back, on the behalf of NFB, Karnataka I filed a RTI
 application to all the B. Ed colleges of the state for seeking the correct
 informations about status of reservation of seats for blind and other
 disables in B. Ed courses.  In response to these  applications what I have
 been informed according to that the persons with more than 75% disability
 are not allowed to seek admission in B. Ed courses in Karnataka.   One of
 the colleges has informed me that they don't give the admission to blind in
 B. Ed courses because they  have no  facilities to teach them.   
 
  
 
 Looking forward for you expertise comments and suggestions on the matter. 
 
  
 
 With regards,
 
  
 
 Gautam Agarwal 
 
 President,
 
 National Federation of the Blind
 
 Karnataka Branch
 
 Bangalore.
 
  
 
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[AI] Moderator: Fwd: A Very Serious Warning... Awareness!!!

2010-09-06 Thread Kotian, H P
Hello

This is off-topic, besides being spam. Such messages should not be posted to 
the list.

There are plenty of such messages floating around. These are all used for email 
harvesting.

Besides, Please don't reply to messages having Moderator: in the subject line.

Members, please seek my prior approval before posting such seemingly useful 
mails.
Harish Kotian
Moderator.

From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Fwd: A Very Serious Warning... Awareness!!!

I got this mail from one of my friend and thought important to share with you 
all. so here it goes.


-- Forwarded message --
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 16:15:55 +0530
Subject: Fwd: A Very Serious Warning... Awareness!!!
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VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL TRAVELLERS ABROAD.





*Dear Friends,

Yesterday only I  came to know of a case from a friend of mine which is very 
scary. One of his friends was traveling to UK via Dubai. Unfortunately he was 
carrying a packet of Khas Khas which is a commonly used spice in some Indian 
curries and sweets. Khas Khas is also known as poppy seed which can be sprouted 
to grow narcotics (afeem etc.).



This innocent person did not know that recently the laws in UAE and other Gulf 
countries have been revised and carrying Khas Khas is punishable with minimum 
20 years of imprisonment or even worse with death penalty. Currently, the 
person is in a jail in Dubai for the last two weeks. His friends are 
frantically trying hard for his release but are finding that this has become a 
very very serious case. Lawyers are asking huge fees amounting to AED 100,000 
even to appear in the court to plead for his innocence.



Please forward this email to all you know specially in India. They should know 
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Re: [AI] Some more mp3 audio hindi files of vyangya.

2010-09-06 Thread kuldeep singh thakur
helo sir i want to also read hindi books please upload hindi poetry
mp3 my email adress is kuldeepsingpi...@gmail.com phone number:
09418485128.

On 9/5/10, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
 yes yes Devendra please upload more books!!
 At 05:33 PM 9/4/2010, you wrote:
Hello friends
Here are some more audio Hindi MP3 files of vyangya. The first
one  is: adhyatmik pagalo ka mission and second one is barat ki
vapasi. The download links are:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10906316/aadhyatmik%20pagalo%20kaa%20mission%20by%20harishankar%20parsai.mp3

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10906316/barat%20ki%20vapasi%20by%20harishankar%20parsai.mp3

Listen and enjoy. If you will like, I will upload more files.
Regards
Devemdra Nikose
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[AI] Proposal for new series to exchange the informations regarding the facilities and benefits available in the various states.

2010-09-06 Thread gautam
Dear Friends,

 

I would like to propose that we should start a series for exchange of update
and accurate informations concerning various facilities and benefits
available to us in our respective states.  

 

With the view to began a good initiative today I mention here the provisions
of job reservation for persons with disability in Karnataka.  I hope that
all of you will respond it through the relevant informations pertaining the
provisions of job reservation in your concerned states.   Provisions of job
reservation for persons with disability in Karnataka are as follows

 

1.  3% reservation in group A  B posts which is further divided 1% for
each  among  blind/low vision, hearing impaired and cebral polcy/ locomotor
disability. 
2.  5% reservation in group C  D which is subdivided in different
categories as under

 

a. Blind/Low vision   2%

b. Hearing impaired  1%

c. Cebral polcy/Locomotor   1%

d. M.I/M.R/MD   1%

 

3.  Reservation in all groups is horizontal
4.  The reservation is available in direct recruitment only not in
promotion. 
5.  The jobs in group A,B,C  D have been identified by the state
government as per sec.32 of the PWD act. 
6.  List of identified job of A  B was notified for the first time in
2005 and reviewed in 2009. List of identified jobs in group C  D was
notified for the first time in 2002 which has not been reviewed till today.

7.   In term of notification containing persons with disability act
Karnataka rules amendment 2006, the job reservation to persons wit
disability has also been extended upto the government aided private
institutions.

 

 

I request the list to feel free for seeking any further clarifications
regarding these provisions of Karnataka  and to put forward the informations
of all concerned states on the same matter.

 

With warm regards,

 

Gautam Agarwal

President,

NFB, Karnataka

 

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Best way is to vehemently resist imposition of scribes and find and take one's 
own scribes.
NGOs may pitch in if aspirants are not able to find on their own
But, authorities imposing  scribes in the name of helping the blind is not 
acceptable to me.
Love marriage is always better than arranged, even if it fails, merely because 
choice was my own, and spouse was not thrust upon by somebody



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:35 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

Dear Rajesh bhai, Kanchan and others,

I haven't tried to put my point across on Age limitation of Scribe against
any suggestion or thought but I wanted to raise my own suggestion pertaining
to eligibility criteria of Scribe. Following are some more points to be
suggested from my end.

1. If the Visually Impaired candidate appearing in the exam like Music, the
Writer should be from same stream.
In Jan 2010, one of my friends in Delhi appeared in the  exam conducted by
Kendriya Vidyalay Sangathan for the post of Music teacher for Primary level.
he was provided with the Writer who was studding in 9th standard and having
no knowledge of Music. As a result, the child was not able to understand
what the candidate is dictating him. It has happened since writing of Music
has some special symbols, notations and so on. Secondly, the Candidate had
to taken two exam in the same day and the Scribe was much tired seating and
writing two exams one by another.
By sharing this incidence, I just want to convey that such problems will
always arrive if a Child of 9th Class writes an exam of higher level for the
longer hours. The exam was indeed for the primary level teacher but we all
know that the syllabus of such kind of examinations will not be as simple or
easy as class 5th examination. hence, the Scribe should be only one standard
junior to the standard of the Examinee. No matters whether Exam is being
conducted for the primary, TGT, PGT or UGC level. According to me, my friend
would have got the Scribe of Graduation level since he was already Post
Graduate.
2. Some time the Examination Centre provide us the Writer whose writing
skills are not that good. this is also not acceptable to me. If I am seating
for the exam, I am not suppose to tell him the spelling of each word, or
symbols and other writing manners in the exam. In this way, my entire time
will waste in dictating him the spelling and all. At least the Scribe should
have the genuine knowledge and idea to write an exam. Someone very rightly
said that if the Centre is ready to provide us the Scribe, the Candidate
should be allowed to meet his or her Scribe at least 24 ours before the exam
taking  place. I would say it even before 48 hours. so if the Candidate is
not satisfied at the comfort level with his Scribe, he can request the
Authority to change the Scribe.
I know another lady who was appearing in the NET Exam. The Scribe was
arranged by UGC only and again he was not found up to the mark. The Scribe
had no idea about how to write that paper and his entire concentration was
in talking about Scribe Fee to be given by UGC. he again and again used to
complain about the lesser amount to be given from the Centre. The Examinee
tried to make her Scribe understand to just to focus on writing the Exam but
the Scribe was constantly trying to show his strain and tiredness saying
that the Money is given to me is not sufficient. at the end of the Exam,
when the Candidate asked the Scribe whether any Question is left, he said:
No madam, nothing is left. You do not be worried. But after the Exam, the
Candidate was shocked to know that her Scribe has left a Question of 40
Marks on Sociology!
What I mean to say that we are talking about the qualification of Scribe, I
am unhappy to observe this pathetic condition of Scribes writing the exams
for the VI people. I am sorry to say but a Visually Impaired Candidate
cannot afford to lose anything just because of silliness of his Scribe. if
this is the case, you never know if I am telling my Writer to Write Delhi,
and he writes Mumbai instead. so, above example also compel us to have
doubts on the loyalty and honesty of the Scribe. I therefore, request you
all to think about all these aspects while drafting the norms.

regards,

Amit Bhatt


- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 Dear Amit
 Nobody, to my knowledge, has tried to include age limit or so for scribes
 in suggestions given here.
 I am afraid if my statement about scribe eligibility cannot be properly
 interpreted, I would shut up and let others draft guidelines wisely,
 hoping to benefit from them.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 

Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

2010-09-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Thank you srikant
Will ask them to try the suggestions and revert.
Meanwhile, with me, in jaws 11 with 32 bit win XP,  it does not read word 
documents what to do?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

nothing for me here working perfectly fine:

how much of R.A.M they are using?


as per my knowledge 2 G.B is required to run the O.S so a RAM of above
3 or 4 G.B is recommended. usually this problem occurs when memory
that can be utilized is less.

using on the dell note book win 7 64 bit O.S studio with Core i 3
processor and 4 G.B of RAM DDR2 without any problem.

further solutions could be disable arrow feature which kills lot of
resources it is simple and easy. set a classic theme of windows.

try disabling gazettes that are running unnecessarily.

disable unwanted processes from MSCONFIG.

reduce the programs running in start up.

disable your anti virus firewall to know whether it is blocking
JFW.exe files if so set a ruling in your firewall to unblock it note:
for unblocking a program refer to your anti virus manual.

defrag your hard drive to improve system performance and jaws support.

Disable unsupported programs and themes by jaws.

clear Temp and log files and repair your registry using a free program
C cleaner.

hope it might help.

Srikanth

On 9/6/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Same problem here with some of my friends, who use jaws 11 with windows 7 in
 64 bit PC.
 Jaws does not keep pace with key commands and reads the full message or line
 before responding to another command given while first is in progress. This
 causes much needless inconvenience.
 Any suggestions?


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of raghuraman
 kalyanaraman
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:42 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

 friends i have started using jaws 64 with windows 7
 but here is a peculiar problem with jaws
 now when i use the keys in the keyboard, jaws speaks the full sentence
 and only then it goes to the next line.
 it doesn't  immediately go to the next line when i press the key
 in short jaws speaks the full version and doesnt co odinate with the
 key functions whenever we press
 hope i am clear
 please give me a solution to this
 cheers raghu

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread Sandeep Gautam

Dear all,
the problem of a scribe is common to all VI people who are student or 
appearing for one or other exam (either for job etc.)
I know one person, who is a  graduate from very reputed college in Delhi and 
speaks very fluent, impressive, correct and intelligent English. but, when 
he is told to type a paper, he even don't know the spelling of that and 
other so simple words. .
this was because he studied from audio material and with the help of readers 
and got high colours with the help of a intelligent scribe.
This draws very bad image for VI person as it shows VI persons got pass in 
high colours due to the efficiency of good scribe ( although opposite cases 
are also there).


I say, why we depend on good or bad writer?
why we depend on his/her (writer) understanding or knowledge of spellings?

When we use JAWS or Talks to access machines or informations by our own 
without any scribe, then, why we need a scribe to evaluate our capability 
and academic knowledge?


We should have a simple and single law to use a computer (desktop/laptop) to 
appear any exam and, diagram and figure questions should be replaced with 
equally weighted theory questions.


one practical difficulty appears in my mind that how examiner will respond 
to the computer typed answer sheets because it is clear from the answer 
sheet that this is of a VI candidate ( he could be too liberal or too 
rigid).


bye
Sandeep G 



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Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 53, Issue 28

2010-09-06 Thread avinash shahi
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 Today's Topics:

1. Discrimination against blind and other disables in admission
   of B.Ed courses. (gautam)
2. Re: Discrimination against blind and other disables in
   admission of B.Ed courses. (erenuka)
3. Moderator:   Fwd: A Very Serious Warning... Awareness!!!
   (Kotian, H P)
4. Re: Some more mp3 audio hindi files of vyangya.
   (kuldeep singh thakur)
5. Proposal for new series to exchange the informations
   regarding   the facilities and benefits available in the various
   states. (gautam)
6. Re: Examinations (Asudani, Rajesh)
7. Re: urgent need of your help please reply (Asudani, Rajesh)


 --

 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 15:41:52 +0530
 From: gautam gtm.agra...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Discrimination against blind and other disables in
   admission   of B.Ed courses.
 Message-ID: 4c84be6f.2104720a.5f1b.7...@mx.google.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

its very shocking. and its happening in Karnataka in 2010. I am amazed!
 a person who is hundred % visually chalenged is denied admision in b.ed
 MR agrawal why don't you make aware the university's athorities,
about the other universities which are fulfilling reservation in its
true latter and spirit. and providing enough facilities as well. delhi
university, one of the glearing example.
and if they do not understand by request and petission lonch a
movement, arange a rally. I hope success will be in your hands.
information exists to dissiminate
avinash shahi
persuing masters in political science
JNU delhi

 Dear Access Indian friends,

 I take this opportunity to bring to your notice one more example of state
 sponsored discrimination against PWD in implementation of theory  of equal
 opportunities, protection of rights and full participation.  I also wish to
 have  your comments and suggestions to initiate the appropriate action.



 Actually one month back, on the behalf of NFB, Karnataka I filed a RTI
 application to all the B. Ed colleges of the state for seeking the correct
 informations about status of reservation of seats for blind and other
 disables in B. Ed courses.  In response to these  applications what I have
 been informed according to that the persons with more than 75% disability
 are not allowed to seek admission in B. Ed courses in Karnataka.   One of
 the colleges has informed me that they don't give the admission to blind in
 B. Ed courses because they  have no  facilities to teach them.



 Looking forward for you expertise comments and suggestions on the matter.



 With regards,



 Gautam Agarwal

 President,

 National Federation of the Blind

 Karnataka Branch

 Bangalore.





 --

 Message: 2
 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:01:07 +0530
 From: erenuka renukawarr...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Discrimination against blind and other disables in
   admission of B.Ed courses.
 Message-ID: 1283769067.12051.7.ca...@user-desktop
 Content-Type: text/plain

 No such discrimination exist in Kerala for admission.  But recently the
 government is discouraging the appoinment of the blind teachers saying
 that the teaching method has been changed and the blind would find it
   difficult to follow the new method.
 On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 15:41 +0530, gautam wrote:
 Dear Access Indian friends,

 I take this opportunity to bring to your notice one more example of state
 sponsored discrimination against PWD in implementation of theory  of equal
 opportunities, protection of rights and full participation.  I also wish
 to
 have  your comments and suggestions to initiate the appropriate action.



 Actually one month back, on the behalf of NFB, Karnataka I filed a RTI
 application to all the B. Ed colleges of the state for seeking the correct
 informations about status of reservation of seats for blind and other
 disables in B. Ed courses.  In response to these  applications what I have
 been informed according to that the persons with more than 75% disability
 are not allowed to seek admission in B. Ed courses in Karnataka.   One of
 the colleges has informed me that they don't give the admission to blind
 in
 B. Ed courses because they  have 

[AI] Problem regarding inkjet printer

2010-09-06 Thread Rohiet A. Patil
Dear all, 
One of my friend have HP inkjet 3940 printer. From some days, whenever she 
turn on the PC it is giving the following message. 
HP Deskjet 3900 Series - Status
Print Cartridge(s) Incorrectly Installed
The following print cartridges are incorrectly installed:
Black
Tri-color
Play Sound on Error
graphic 994  graphic 5 
Close So I would like to know that what is the exact problem? Is it regarding 
cartrage or printer's driver? Please help to solve the issue. The printer is 
not working also. Thanks and regards, Rohiet
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Re: [AI] Proposal for new series to exchange the informations regarding the facilities and benefits available in the various states.

2010-09-06 Thread Suhas Karnik

Here I would like to know aboute the unemployment allowance paid to those 
unemployed disabled persons who are registered with the special employment 
exchange and not received gainful employment for last two years.

Such unemployment allowance varies from state to state.

To make the case strong in Maharastra I need comparative statistics. 

Kindly share your information.

Thanks Gautam for this initiative.

 

Amities.

Suhas Karnik.
 
 From: gtm.agra...@gmail.com
 To: ssaccessin...@accessindia.org.in
 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:04:19 +0530
 Subject: [AI] Proposal for new series to exchange the informations regarding 
 the facilities and benefits available in the various states.
 
 Dear Friends,
 
 
 
 I would like to propose that we should start a series for exchange of update
 and accurate informations concerning various facilities and benefits
 available to us in our respective states. 
 
 
 
 With the view to began a good initiative today I mention here the provisions
 of job reservation for persons with disability in Karnataka. I hope that
 all of you will respond it through the relevant informations pertaining the
 provisions of job reservation in your concerned states. Provisions of job
 reservation for persons with disability in Karnataka are as follows
 
 
 
 1. 3% reservation in group A  B posts which is further divided 1% for
 each among blind/low vision, hearing impaired and cebral polcy/ locomotor
 disability. 
 2. 5% reservation in group C  D which is subdivided in different
 categories as under
 
 
 
 a. Blind/Low vision 2%
 
 b. Hearing impaired 1%
 
 c. Cebral polcy/Locomotor 1%
 
 d. M.I/M.R/MD 1%
 
 
 
 3. Reservation in all groups is horizontal
 4. The reservation is available in direct recruitment only not in
 promotion. 
 5. The jobs in group A,B,C  D have been identified by the state
 government as per sec.32 of the PWD act. 
 6. List of identified job of A  B was notified for the first time in
 2005 and reviewed in 2009. List of identified jobs in group C  D was
 notified for the first time in 2002 which has not been reviewed till today.
 
 7. In term of notification containing persons with disability act
 Karnataka rules amendment 2006, the job reservation to persons wit
 disability has also been extended upto the government aided private
 institutions.
 
 
 
 
 
 I request the list to feel free for seeking any further clarifications
 regarding these provisions of Karnataka and to put forward the informations
 of all concerned states on the same matter.
 
 
 
 With warm regards,
 
 
 
 Gautam Agarwal
 
 President,
 
 NFB, Karnataka
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] Problem regarding inkjet printer

2010-09-06 Thread techy fox
this problem mostly related with dirty head of printer or some times
cartrages  went dry  .

so  take the asprol alcohol  and wight  cotton  , dip the cottonin it
after little squeese the cotton and carefully clean the  head of
cartrage .
then try again with printout  or contact the  local hardware /printer
repair shop.

On 9/6/10, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:
 Dear all,
 One of my friend have HP inkjet 3940 printer. From some days, whenever she
 turn on the PC it is giving the following message.
 HP Deskjet 3900 Series - Status
 Print Cartridge(s) Incorrectly Installed
 The following print cartridges are incorrectly installed:
 Black
 Tri-color
 Play Sound on Error
 graphic 994  graphic 5
 Close So I would like to know that what is the exact problem? Is it
 regarding cartrage or printer's driver? Please help to solve the issue. The
 printer is not working also. Thanks and regards, Rohiet
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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread Swasti Mathur

hello madam,
my views are as follows:
first of all to reduce dependability of vi candidates on scribes for 
appearing in exams, where ever possible use of assistive technology must 
be laid amphysis.
for eg., few management exams are now conducted on line. as these are 
computer based exams, it is very practical to make use of jaws or other 
screen readers. such exams also overcome the hinderence of bias by 
examiner towards Vi candidates either too libral or too harsh as pointed 
by one of our friend. these technological advancements must be accomodated.
secondly, There should not be any stringint rules to be complied with 
while arranging for a writer. in place of it, invigilator in charge 
should be very dedicated towards his/her duty because many times i came 
across people who take a very good writer and they themselves dont do 
anything other than sitting and in place the entire paper is solved by 
the scribe. such practises are dubious raising serious questions on the 
capability of entire vi community. people tends to develop a mallaicious 
tendency towards us. most of the time invigilators are not found on the 
duty or sitting there and engaging themselves in some other chores. they 
should be very alert and see that upto what extent scribe is assisting 
the candidate. is candidate herself is answering questions or they are 
ansered by writer? this practice also act as a partiality against other 
vi candidates.
writer should be always from the same field or must be assosiated with 
the subject concerning the examination for which a vi candidate is 
appearing.
writer must be in no case be arranged by the body conducting exams. this 
must entirely lie in the domain of vi candidate appearing for exam.
questions of pictorial presentations must in every case be replaced by 
theoritical questions. in many examinations there is no such provision 
like in management exams. these exams have complex data to be interpreted.
as i am aiming at CAT, FMS, XAT, SNAP etc. inclusion of screen readers 
will be a very cozy step in this direction.

hope my opinions will add to this bettle against present dogmas.
regards
swasti Mathur
Sandeep Gautam wrote:

Dear all,
the problem of a scribe is common to all VI people who are student or 
appearing for one or other exam (either for job etc.)
I know one person, who is a  graduate from very reputed college in 
Delhi and speaks very fluent, impressive, correct and intelligent 
English. but, when he is told to type a paper, he even don't know the 
spelling of that and other so simple words. .
this was because he studied from audio material and with the help of 
readers and got high colours with the help of a intelligent scribe.
This draws very bad image for VI person as it shows VI persons got 
pass in high colours due to the efficiency of good scribe ( although 
opposite cases are also there).


I say, why we depend on good or bad writer?
why we depend on his/her (writer) understanding or knowledge of 
spellings?


When we use JAWS or Talks to access machines or informations by our 
own without any scribe, then, why we need a scribe to evaluate our 
capability and academic knowledge?


We should have a simple and single law to use a computer 
(desktop/laptop) to appear any exam and, diagram and figure questions 
should be replaced with equally weighted theory questions.


one practical difficulty appears in my mind that how examiner will 
respond to the computer typed answer sheets because it is clear from 
the answer sheet that this is of a VI candidate ( he could be too 
liberal or too rigid).


bye
Sandeep G

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Re: [AI] Problem in reading Hindi content of scanned documents

2010-09-06 Thread techy fox
for better instructions first tel  the your windows version with which
service pack
are you using ?

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 I am fine, thank you sir,
 The actual problem is that to where from get Hindi fonts?
  And the second thing is that I wish Lekha make read the scanned Hindi
 documents and as per the discussion, there is no OCR which recognizes
 Hindi characters.

 And besides, I think making changes in the option mentioned by you in
 control panel, enables us to type and then read Hindi contents through
 the programmes such as SAFA. Isn’t it?



 On 9/6/10, Arun Sharma arun.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Himanshu!!!
 How are you beta

 If you want to install new hindi font in your computer system then u have
 to
 go to control panel and then open font folder. Here go to file menu and
 open
 install new fonts option then u give the address of ur fonts which are
 stored in your system or in your pen drive.
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 Reach: 09051055000

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Re: [AI] clarification requested on professional tax exemptionforpersons with visual challenges

2010-09-06 Thread vinod benjamin
Dear Sameer sir,

I live in Tamil nadu.

Regards,
Vinod 
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:21 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] clarification requested on professional tax
exemptionforpersons with visual challenges


Dear Friend,

Kindly let us know which state do you reside in.

Profession tax is a state subject  every state has enacted it's own 
profession tax act.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
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From: vinod benjamin vinbe...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 11:46 PM
Subject: [AI] clarification requested on professional tax exemption 
forpersons with visual challenges


 Dear Access Indians,



 Would like to know is there any exemption for professional tax, as I work
 for an MNC ,I have been paying this for the past 2 years , if you could
 support me with any G O that would be of great help , would like to add 
 that
 I am availing  I T exemption but not professional tax.



 Thanking you in anticipation,



 Vinod Benjamin

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[AI] skyep

2010-09-06 Thread Namita Agarwal
hi  members
is skyep watch installed on jaws 8 different from jaws 11, if so i
require skyep watch 11 version .
pl guide me  so that bit of confusion can be solved.

-- 
 regards namita

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[AI] Allahabad Bank Specialist Officers Jobs Sep-2010

2010-09-06 Thread techy fox
   (logo)
ALLAHABAD BANK
(A Government of India Undertaking)
¬¬HEAD OFFICE : 2, N. S. ROAD, KOLKATA 71
 Advt No. : REC/ 03/2010-11
Contact No. 033-22314630, FAX-033-22308442
OFFICERS’ RECRUITMENT PROJECT-2010-11
Allahabad Bank invites ON-LINE Applications from Indian Citizens for
recruitment against 127 vacancies. Candidates are required to apply
ON-LINE through Bank’s website www.allahabadbank.in (where full
advertisement  fee payment challan are available). No other
means/mode of application will be accepted.
Opening Date for ON-LINE  Registration of Application   07.09.2010
Closing Date for ON-LINE  Registration of Application
Last Date for depositing Fees (for each post)
(For all applicants including those from far flung areas.)  04.10.2010
04.10.2010
Tentative Date of Written Test (As required)05.12.2010
Name of Post/ Vacancies:
Post CodeNo.Posts   Grade/Scale No. of vacanciesAGE in years
(as on 01.07.10)
[Max. as under]
Relaxation in Upper Age limit as per Govt. guidelines
1.  Chief Law Officer in GENERALIST cadre.  TEG,Sc-VI   1 (One) 50
2.  Assistant General Manager (Economist)
in GENERALIST cadre.SMG, Sc-V   1 (One) 45
3.  Chief Manager (Taxation) in GENERALIST cadreSMG, Sc-IV  1 (One) 
40
4.  Senior Manager (Treasury cum Forex) in SPECIALIST
cadre   MMG,Sc-III  10 (Ten)35
5.  Manager (Research Analyst / Statistician)
in SPECIALIST cadre.MMG,Sc-II   2 (Two) 35
6.  Manager (Taxation) in SPECIALIST cadre. MMG,Sc-II   2 (Two) 
35
7.  Manager (Law) in  SPECIALIST cadre. MMG,Sc-II   19 (Nineteen)   
35
8.  Manager (Security) in SPECIALIST cadre. MMG,Sc- II  10 
(Ten)35
9.  Official Language Officer / Hindi Officer
in SPECIALIST cadre JMG,Sc- I   6 (Six) Min. -   21
Max. – 30
10. Officer (IT) in SPECIALIST cadreJMG,Sc-I75 (Seventy 
Five)   Min. -   21
Max. – 30
SALARY AND EMOLUMENTS:
A. JMG, Scale-I : Pay Scale : Rs.14500-600/7-18700-700/2-20100-800/7-25700
B. MMG, Scale-II  : Pay Scale : Rs.19400-700/1-20100-800/10-28100
C  MMG, Scale-III : Pay Scale:  Rs.25700-800/5-29700-900/2-31500
D  SMG, Scale-IV  : Pay Scale : Rs.30600-900/4-34200-1000/2-36200
E  SMG, Scale-V  :  Pay Scale : Rs.36200-1000/2-38200-1100/2-40400
F  TEG, Scale- VI:   Pay Scale : Rs.42000-1200/4-46800
DA, HRA, CCA etc. will be paid as per Bank’s rules in force from time
to time depending upon place of posting. Medical, LTC, Terminal
Benefits etc will be admissible as per prevailing Bank’s rules.
Reservation in Posts: (including backlog)
Scale   No. of VacanciesOut of which for Physically challenged (PC)
SC  ST  OBC (*) GEN Total   OC  VI  HI
TEG Scale – VI  -   -   -   01  01  1   2+2**   1+15**
SMG Scale – V   -   -   -   01  01  
SMG Scale – IV  -   -   -   01  01  
MMG Scale – 111 02  01  02  05  10  
MMG Scale – II  02  04  10  17  33  
JMG Scale – I   12  08  19  42  81  
TOTAL   16  13  31  67  127 01  4   16
** Backlog vacancies
Abbreviations stand for -  SC – Scheduled Caste, ST – Scheduled Tribe,
OBC(*) – Other Backward Classes– Non Creamy Layer category, Gen -
General, PC – Physically Challenged, OC – Orthopaedically Challenged,
VI – Visually Impaired, HI – Hearing Impaired.

Note :

1.  The number of vacancies as also the number of reserved vacancies is
provisional and may vary according to the actual requirement of the
Bank.

2.  It is clarified that it may not be possible to employ Physically
Challenged candidates in all Offices/ Branches of the Bank and they
will have to work in the post identified by the Bank as suitable for
them.

3.  As the reservation for Physically Challenged candidates is on
horizontal basis, the selected candidates will be placed in the
appropriate category (viz SC/ST/OBC/Gen) to which they belong.

1.   Eligibility Criteria:
Nationality / Citizenship :  A candidate must be either (i) a citizen
of India, OR (ii) a subject of Nepal, OR (iii) subject of Bhutan, OR
(iv) a Tibetan refugee who came over to India before 1st January, 1962
with the intention of permanently settling in India, OR (v) a person
of Indian origin who has migrated from Pakistan, Burma, Sri Lanka,
East African countries of Kenya, Uganda, the United Republic of
Tanzania (formerly Tanganyika and Zanzibar), Zambia, Malawi, Zaire,
Ethopia and Vietnam with the intention of permanently settling in
India. Provided that a candidate belonging to categories (ii), (iii),
(iv). (v) above shall be a person in whose favour a certificate of
eligibility has been issued by the Government of India. A 

Re: [AI] skyep

2010-09-06 Thread mr varun saluja
hi namita please tell me you have windos 7 32 bit or 64 bit

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 hi  members
 is skyep watch installed on jaws 8 different from jaws 11, if so i
 require skyep watch 11 version .
 pl guide me  so that bit of confusion can be solved.

 --
  regards namita

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[AI] Need Jaws Script for Yahoo10

2010-09-06 Thread B. R. Nautial
Hello friends
Is Jaws script available for yahoo10? if yes, kindly send me the same on my 
personal id.
Thanks in advance
With Regards

B. R. Nautial
E-Mail ID: brnaut...@gmail.com
Mobile: +91-9915073368
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[AI] regarding studying in u s a

2010-09-06 Thread raghuraman kalyanaraman
friends i would like to speak to those who do their studies in
literature in u s a.
i would also like to know about the learning environment for a
visually challenged student in literature
moreover please tell me which are the universities that would be apt
for doing literature in u s a
urgent need of these details
thanks

cheers raghu

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread RENUKA WARRIER
In Kerala the candidates can write their exams in braille for the SSLC 
examination and the pictorial based questions are exumpted. For other exams 
there is no such rule though.

E RENUKA,
SECTION OFFICER,
ICT CENTRE FOR VISUALLY CHALLENGED,
CHMK LIBRARY,
UNIVERSITY OF CALICUT
CALICUT, UNIVERSITY P O,
MALAPPURAM DISTRICT,
KERALA.
- Original Message - 
From: Swasti Mathur swastimat...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



hello madam,
my views are as follows:
first of all to reduce dependability of vi candidates on scribes for 
appearing in exams, where ever possible use of assistive technology must 
be laid amphysis.
for eg., few management exams are now conducted on line. as these are 
computer based exams, it is very practical to make use of jaws or other 
screen readers. such exams also overcome the hinderence of bias by 
examiner towards Vi candidates either too libral or too harsh as pointed 
by one of our friend. these technological advancements must be 
accomodated.
secondly, There should not be any stringint rules to be complied with 
while arranging for a writer. in place of it, invigilator in charge should 
be very dedicated towards his/her duty because many times i came across 
people who take a very good writer and they themselves dont do anything 
other than sitting and in place the entire paper is solved by the scribe. 
such practises are dubious raising serious questions on the capability of 
entire vi community. people tends to develop a mallaicious tendency 
towards us. most of the time invigilators are not found on the duty or 
sitting there and engaging themselves in some other chores. they should be 
very alert and see that upto what extent scribe is assisting the 
candidate. is candidate herself is answering questions or they are ansered 
by writer? this practice also act as a partiality against other vi 
candidates.
writer should be always from the same field or must be assosiated with the 
subject concerning the examination for which a vi candidate is appearing.
writer must be in no case be arranged by the body conducting exams. this 
must entirely lie in the domain of vi candidate appearing for exam.
questions of pictorial presentations must in every case be replaced by 
theoritical questions. in many examinations there is no such provision 
like in management exams. these exams have complex data to be interpreted.
as i am aiming at CAT, FMS, XAT, SNAP etc. inclusion of screen readers 
will be a very cozy step in this direction.

hope my opinions will add to this bettle against present dogmas.
regards
swasti Mathur
Sandeep Gautam wrote:

Dear all,
the problem of a scribe is common to all VI people who are student or 
appearing for one or other exam (either for job etc.)
I know one person, who is a  graduate from very reputed college in Delhi 
and speaks very fluent, impressive, correct and intelligent English. but, 
when he is told to type a paper, he even don't know the spelling of 
that and other so simple words. .
this was because he studied from audio material and with the help of 
readers and got high colours with the help of a intelligent scribe.
This draws very bad image for VI person as it shows VI persons got pass 
in high colours due to the efficiency of good scribe ( although opposite 
cases are also there).


I say, why we depend on good or bad writer?
why we depend on his/her (writer) understanding or knowledge of 
spellings?


When we use JAWS or Talks to access machines or informations by our own 
without any scribe, then, why we need a scribe to evaluate our capability 
and academic knowledge?


We should have a simple and single law to use a computer (desktop/laptop) 
to appear any exam and, diagram and figure questions should be replaced 
with equally weighted theory questions.


one practical difficulty appears in my mind that how examiner will 
respond to the computer typed answer sheets because it is clear from the 
answer sheet that this is of a VI candidate ( he could be too liberal or 
too rigid).


bye
Sandeep G

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2010-09-06 Thread raghuraman kalyanaraman
friends i would like to have the following details at the earliest
1 i would like to speak to those who do their literature in u s a
2 how is the learning environment for a visually challenged in literature
3 what are the universities that would be apt to do literature in u s a
thanks
cheers raghu

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Re: [AI] Proposal for new series to exchange the informations regarding the facilities and benefits available in the various states.

2010-09-06 Thread gtm . agrawal

Unemployment  allowance is not paid inkarnataka so far. With warm regard gautam 
agarwal.
-original message-
Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for new series to exchange the informations 
regarding the facilities and benefits available in the various states.
From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com
Date: 06/09/2010 9:05 pm


Here I would like to know aboute the unemployment allowance paid to those 
unemployed disabled persons who are registered with the special employment 
exchange and not received gainful employment for last two years.

Such unemployment allowance varies from state to state.

To make the case strong in Maharastra I need comparative statistics. 

Kindly share your information.

Thanks Gautam for this initiative.

 

Amities.

Suhas Karnik.
 
 From: gtm.agra...@gmail.com
 To: ssaccessin...@accessindia.org.in
 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:04:19 +0530
 Subject: [AI] Proposal for new series to exchange the informations regarding 
 the facilities and benefits available in the various states.
 
 Dear Friends,
 
 
 
 I would like to propose that we should start a series for exchange of update
 and accurate informations concerning various facilities and benefits
 available to us in our respective states. 
 
 
 
 With the view to began a good initiative today I mention here the provisions
 of job reservation for persons with disability in Karnataka. I hope that
 all of you will respond it through the relevant informations pertaining the
 provisions of job reservation in your concerned states. Provisions of job
 reservation for persons with disability in Karnataka are as follows
 
 
 
 1. 3% reservation in group A  B posts which is further divided 1% for
 each among blind/low vision, hearing impaired and cebral polcy/ locomotor
 disability. 
 2. 5% reservation in group C  D which is subdivided in different
 categories as under
 
 
 
 a. Blind/Low vision 2%
 
 b. Hearing impaired 1%
 
 c. Cebral polcy/Locomotor 1%
 
 d. M.I/M.R/MD 1%
 
 
 
 3. Reservation in all groups is horizontal
 4. The reservation is available in direct recruitment only not in
 promotion. 
 5. The jobs in group A,B,C  D have been identified by the state
 government as per sec.32 of the PWD act. 
 6. List of identified job of A  B was notified for the first time in
 2005 and reviewed in 2009. List of identified jobs in group C  D was
 notified for the first time in 2002 which has not been reviewed till today.
 
 7. In term of notification containing persons with disability act
 Karnataka rules amendment 2006, the job reservation to persons wit
 disability has also been extended upto the government aided private
 institutions.
 
 
 
 
 
 I request the list to feel free for seeking any further clarifications
 regarding these provisions of Karnataka and to put forward the informations
 of all concerned states on the same matter.
 
 
 
 With warm regards,
 
 
 
 Gautam Agarwal
 
 President,
 
 NFB, Karnataka
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA

hello! my observations here:

1.  if writer must belong to the same field, i am a bank employee, on my 
promotion exams, should i possess my colleague to write my papers?
2.  what about those blind candidates, who don't know computers. we always 
discuss about highprofile exams like cat or other. what about that blind 
person, who passed only 12th standard and appearing on the exams like 
shiksha karmee or shiksha mitra. where he is trying to get a fixed 
salary job of rs.7500/-. in such exams, some centres are given far of places 
from the urban areas. where, there is no electricity.
3.  some of sighted people also take notes and copy their answers in exams. 
like swasti observed about writers regarding blind candidates.
4.  who will negotiate the matter with the authority? the NGOs and 
organisations for the blind have no consensus at all. some of them support 
special schools, but, some of them are forcing government to send the blind 
students to the so called integrated education system. the difference is 
same regarding Braille teaching and writers. you can read the entire matter 
reported on jigyasa published by AICB in July-august 2010 addition.
5.  what is the business of NIVH? even they can not print and deliver their 
own publication regularly. the employees and authorities of NIVH are 
enjoying the money of government.
to sum up, i would like to say that it should make employed mandatory that a 
blind person,  will possess scribe to appear examinations, whether it is 
offline, online or written on hardcopy. if blind person is a student, then a 
writer should be one standard lower then the blind student, but, he or she 
does not belong to the same faculty. if a blind person appearing on
competitive exams, then writer's qualification should be minimum 12th 
standard. but, there should be no criteria of percentage.


- Original Message - 
From: Swasti Mathur swastimat...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



hello madam,
my views are as follows:
first of all to reduce dependability of vi candidates on scribes for 
appearing in exams, where ever possible use of assistive technology must 
be laid amphysis.
for eg., few management exams are now conducted on line. as these are 
computer based exams, it is very practical to make use of jaws or other 
screen readers. such exams also overcome the hinderence of bias by 
examiner towards Vi candidates either too libral or too harsh as pointed 
by one of our friend. these technological advancements must be 
accomodated.
secondly, There should not be any stringint rules to be complied with 
while arranging for a writer. in place of it, invigilator in charge should 
be very dedicated towards his/her duty because many times i came across 
people who take a very good writer and they themselves dont do anything 
other than sitting and in place the entire paper is solved by the scribe. 
such practises are dubious raising serious questions on the capability of 
entire vi community. people tends to develop a mallaicious tendency 
towards us. most of the time invigilators are not found on the duty or 
sitting there and engaging themselves in some other chores. they should be 
very alert and see that upto what extent scribe is assisting the 
candidate. is candidate herself is answering questions or they are ansered 
by writer? this practice also act as a partiality against other vi 
candidates.
writer should be always from the same field or must be assosiated with the 
subject concerning the examination for which a vi candidate is appearing.
writer must be in no case be arranged by the body conducting exams. this 
must entirely lie in the domain of vi candidate appearing for exam.
questions of pictorial presentations must in every case be replaced by 
theoritical questions. in many examinations there is no such provision 
like in management exams. these exams have complex data to be interpreted.
as i am aiming at CAT, FMS, XAT, SNAP etc. inclusion of screen readers 
will be a very cozy step in this direction.

hope my opinions will add to this bettle against present dogmas.
regards
swasti Mathur
Sandeep Gautam wrote:

Dear all,
the problem of a scribe is common to all VI people who are student or 
appearing for one or other exam (either for job etc.)
I know one person, who is a  graduate from very reputed college in Delhi 
and speaks very fluent, impressive, correct and intelligent English. but, 
when he is told to type a paper, he even don't know the spelling of 
that and other so simple words. .
this was because he studied from audio material and with the help of 
readers and got high colours with the help of a intelligent scribe.
This draws very bad image for VI person as it shows VI persons got pass 
in high colours due to the efficiency of good scribe ( although opposite 
cases are also there).


I say, why we depend on good or bad writer?
why we depend on his/her 

Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
braile is a good option, but, various NGOs for the blind are opposing the 
context.


- Original Message - 
From: RENUKA WARRIER eren...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


In Kerala the candidates can write their exams in braille for the SSLC 
examination and the pictorial based questions are exumpted. For other 
exams there is no such rule though.

E RENUKA,
SECTION OFFICER,
ICT CENTRE FOR VISUALLY CHALLENGED,
CHMK LIBRARY,
UNIVERSITY OF CALICUT
CALICUT, UNIVERSITY P O,
MALAPPURAM DISTRICT,
KERALA.
- Original Message - 
From: Swasti Mathur swastimat...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



hello madam,
my views are as follows:
first of all to reduce dependability of vi candidates on scribes for 
appearing in exams, where ever possible use of assistive technology must 
be laid amphysis.
for eg., few management exams are now conducted on line. as these are 
computer based exams, it is very practical to make use of jaws or other 
screen readers. such exams also overcome the hinderence of bias by 
examiner towards Vi candidates either too libral or too harsh as pointed 
by one of our friend. these technological advancements must be 
accomodated.
secondly, There should not be any stringint rules to be complied with 
while arranging for a writer. in place of it, invigilator in charge 
should be very dedicated towards his/her duty because many times i came 
across people who take a very good writer and they themselves dont do 
anything other than sitting and in place the entire paper is solved by 
the scribe. such practises are dubious raising serious questions on the 
capability of entire vi community. people tends to develop a mallaicious 
tendency towards us. most of the time invigilators are not found on the 
duty or sitting there and engaging themselves in some other chores. they 
should be very alert and see that upto what extent scribe is assisting 
the candidate. is candidate herself is answering questions or they are 
ansered by writer? this practice also act as a partiality against other 
vi candidates.
writer should be always from the same field or must be assosiated with 
the subject concerning the examination for which a vi candidate is 
appearing.
writer must be in no case be arranged by the body conducting exams. this 
must entirely lie in the domain of vi candidate appearing for exam.
questions of pictorial presentations must in every case be replaced by 
theoritical questions. in many examinations there is no such provision 
like in management exams. these exams have complex data to be 
interpreted.
as i am aiming at CAT, FMS, XAT, SNAP etc. inclusion of screen readers 
will be a very cozy step in this direction.

hope my opinions will add to this bettle against present dogmas.
regards
swasti Mathur
Sandeep Gautam wrote:

Dear all,
the problem of a scribe is common to all VI people who are student or 
appearing for one or other exam (either for job etc.)
I know one person, who is a  graduate from very reputed college in Delhi 
and speaks very fluent, impressive, correct and intelligent English. 
but, when he is told to type a paper, he even don't know the spelling of 
that and other so simple words. .
this was because he studied from audio material and with the help of 
readers and got high colours with the help of a intelligent scribe.
This draws very bad image for VI person as it shows VI persons got pass 
in high colours due to the efficiency of good scribe ( although opposite 
cases are also there).


I say, why we depend on good or bad writer?
why we depend on his/her (writer) understanding or knowledge of 
spellings?


When we use JAWS or Talks to access machines or informations by our own 
without any scribe, then, why we need a scribe to evaluate our 
capability and academic knowledge?


We should have a simple and single law to use a computer 
(desktop/laptop) to appear any exam and, diagram and figure questions 
should be replaced with equally weighted theory questions.


one practical difficulty appears in my mind that how examiner will 
respond to the computer typed answer sheets because it is clear from the 
answer sheet that this is of a VI candidate ( he could be too liberal or 
too rigid).


bye
Sandeep G

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-06 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Well, now computers should be taught right from the school. When
there's something is available, our students must learn and adopt.
Even for sighted childre, computers are taught right from 1st std. Why
not for blind students when it gives more independance? Sadly, most of
the NGOs themselves do not aware about the advancement of technology.
Of course a student should learn Braille to learn spellings and enjoy
reading.

On 9/7/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 braile is a good option, but, various NGOs for the blind are opposing the
 context.

 - Original Message -
 From: RENUKA WARRIER eren...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 In Kerala the candidates can write their exams in braille for the SSLC
 examination and the pictorial based questions are exumpted. For other
 exams there is no such rule though.
 E RENUKA,
 SECTION OFFICER,
 ICT CENTRE FOR VISUALLY CHALLENGED,
 CHMK LIBRARY,
 UNIVERSITY OF CALICUT
 CALICUT, UNIVERSITY P O,
 MALAPPURAM DISTRICT,
 KERALA.
 - Original Message -
 From: Swasti Mathur swastimat...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 hello madam,
 my views are as follows:
 first of all to reduce dependability of vi candidates on scribes for
 appearing in exams, where ever possible use of assistive technology must
 be laid amphysis.
 for eg., few management exams are now conducted on line. as these are
 computer based exams, it is very practical to make use of jaws or other
 screen readers. such exams also overcome the hinderence of bias by
 examiner towards Vi candidates either too libral or too harsh as pointed
 by one of our friend. these technological advancements must be
 accomodated.
 secondly, There should not be any stringint rules to be complied with
 while arranging for a writer. in place of it, invigilator in charge
 should be very dedicated towards his/her duty because many times i came
 across people who take a very good writer and they themselves dont do
 anything other than sitting and in place the entire paper is solved by
 the scribe. such practises are dubious raising serious questions on the
 capability of entire vi community. people tends to develop a mallaicious
 tendency towards us. most of the time invigilators are not found on the
 duty or sitting there and engaging themselves in some other chores. they
 should be very alert and see that upto what extent scribe is assisting
 the candidate. is candidate herself is answering questions or they are
 ansered by writer? this practice also act as a partiality against other
 vi candidates.
 writer should be always from the same field or must be assosiated with
 the subject concerning the examination for which a vi candidate is
 appearing.
 writer must be in no case be arranged by the body conducting exams. this
 must entirely lie in the domain of vi candidate appearing for exam.
 questions of pictorial presentations must in every case be replaced by
 theoritical questions. in many examinations there is no such provision
 like in management exams. these exams have complex data to be
 interpreted.
 as i am aiming at CAT, FMS, XAT, SNAP etc. inclusion of screen readers
 will be a very cozy step in this direction.
 hope my opinions will add to this bettle against present dogmas.
 regards
 swasti Mathur
 Sandeep Gautam wrote:
 Dear all,
 the problem of a scribe is common to all VI people who are student or
 appearing for one or other exam (either for job etc.)
 I know one person, who is a  graduate from very reputed college in Delhi

 and speaks very fluent, impressive, correct and intelligent English.
 but, when he is told to type a paper, he even don't know the spelling of

 that and other so simple words. .
 this was because he studied from audio material and with the help of
 readers and got high colours with the help of a intelligent scribe.
 This draws very bad image for VI person as it shows VI persons got pass
 in high colours due to the efficiency of good scribe ( although opposite

 cases are also there).

 I say, why we depend on good or bad writer?
 why we depend on his/her (writer) understanding or knowledge of
 spellings?

 When we use JAWS or Talks to access machines or informations by our own
 without any scribe, then, why we need a scribe to evaluate our
 capability and academic knowledge?

 We should have a simple and single law to use a computer
 (desktop/laptop) to appear any exam and, diagram and figure questions
 should be replaced with equally weighted theory questions.

 one practical difficulty appears in my mind that how examiner will
 respond to the computer typed answer sheets because it is clear from the

 answer sheet that this is of a VI candidate ( he could be too liberal or

 too rigid).

 bye
 Sandeep G

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Re: [AI] urgent need of your help please reply

2010-09-06 Thread B. P. Mohith
Please check
whether typing interrupt check box is checked or not under user
options which is located in Configuration manager set options menue.
Hope this may help.


On 9/3/10, raghuraman kalyanaraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 friends i have started using jaws 64 with windows 7
 but here is a peculiar problem with jaws
 now when i use the keys in the keyboard, jaws speaks the full sentence
 and only then it goes to the next line.
 it doesn't  immediately go to the next line when i press the key
 in short jaws speaks the full version and doesnt co odinate with the
 key functions whenever we press
 hope i am clear
 please give me a solution to this
 cheers raghu

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