RE: [AI] A suggestion to write a mail to Whatsapp's accessibility team by all

[techsavi.shankar]

May be you have observed or not, there is a place to add the captions for 
videos and the photos on the status updates. But they are not mandatory. Post 
button must disable till the users add the captions/alt text to the status.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Santosh Prajapati
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 8:57 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A suggestion to write a mail to Whatsapp's accessibility team 
by all

 

I have written to them many time about accessibility and also I will write to 
them on this point

 

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 9:28 PM Saurav Hegde mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello group members,

I know, this maybe annoying to you but I again want to draw your attention to a 
problem that all blind users face while using Whatsapp.

It is impossible for us to understand a photo posted by someone on their 
Whatsapp's status due to a lack of image description feature and an option to 
add alt text while uploading the photo.

Doesn't this dull our experience?

I request everyone on this group to write them an Email highlighting this issue.

I don't know why, no one responded to me.

I  respect everyone's time and am trying to do something which will benefit all 
of us.

Only me writing to them may not create  a big impact but a hundred such mails 
might be taken seriously.

So do reply, I have already posted  the mail on the group written by me which 
anyone can edit and send to them.

So, if you want to support my initiative, write them a mail at 
accessibil...@support.whatsapp.com  

 

Thanks in advance.

Warm regards,

Saurav Hegde

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[AI] Key board command to make presentation with I phone

[Murali padmanabhan]

Dear friends, I am trying to share my screen with a ppt through teams with my I 
phone. I am able to go to the share screen option and not able to open the 
relevant file to presentaed. How do I get to the file after selecting the share 
screen option to locate the file? Thanks in advance.
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Re: [AI] A suggestion to write a mail to Whatsapp's accessibility team by all

[Santosh Prajapati]

I have written to them many time about accessibility and also I will write
to them on this point

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 9:28 PM Saurav Hegde  wrote:

> Hello group members,
> I know, this maybe annoying to you but I again want to draw your attention
> to a problem that all blind users face while using Whatsapp.
> It is impossible for us to understand a photo posted by someone on their
> Whatsapp's status due to a lack of image description feature and an option
> to add alt text while uploading the photo.
> Doesn't this dull our experience?
> I request everyone on this group to write them an Email highlighting this
> issue.
> I don't know why, no one responded to me.
> I  respect everyone's time and am trying to do something which will
> benefit all of us.
> Only me writing to them may not create  a big impact but a hundred such
> mails might be taken seriously.
> So do reply, I have already posted  the mail on the group written by me
> which anyone can edit and send to them.
> So, if you want to support my initiative, write them a mail at
> accessibil...@support.whatsapp.com
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Warm regards,
> Saurav Hegde
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[AI] A suggestion to write a mail to Whatsapp's accessibility team by all

[Saurav Hegde]

Hello group members,
I know, this maybe annoying to you but I again want to draw your attention
to a problem that all blind users face while using Whatsapp.
It is impossible for us to understand a photo posted by someone on their
Whatsapp's status due to a lack of image description feature and an option
to add alt text while uploading the photo.
Doesn't this dull our experience?
I request everyone on this group to write them an Email highlighting this
issue.
I don't know why, no one responded to me.
I  respect everyone's time and am trying to do something which will benefit
all of us.
Only me writing to them may not create  a big impact but a hundred such
mails might be taken seriously.
So do reply, I have already posted  the mail on the group written by me
which anyone can edit and send to them.
So, if you want to support my initiative, write them a mail at
accessibil...@support.whatsapp.com

Thanks in advance.
Warm regards,
Saurav Hegde

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Re: [AI] Biometrics attendance system accessibility for blind

[Boopathi P]

Dear All,
At my university (Central University of Tamil Nadu), we have biometric
attendance through face recognition. We just have to show our face to
the machine. It is common for even to the sighted faculty members. It
is quite accessible. It doesn’t take much time. Within a few seconds,
the machine recognizes the face. However, the visually impaired
faculty members have also been given access card to swipe it on the
screen just in-case the face is not recognized. In my opinion,
biometric attendance through face recognition is more accessible for
visually impaired people.

Best
Boopathi



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> No, Proxy attendance is not possible through card swiping.. These days
> every big organisation  has CCTV cameras installed multipelpal in the
> campus. 2nd thing nobody would like to take with their reputed jobs.
>
> On 9/22/23, ilovec...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> I think this system allows proxy attendance. Therefore, biometric system
>> was
>> made mandatory in Central Government Offices.
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Re: [AI] First time in India - Introducing Our Revolutionary Rolling Ball Cane Tip

[Blind 2 Visionary]

Hi Dear satguru rathi,

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that B2V India is the first NGO to build this in India. because our aim is
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and you can also find the same rolling ball tip online. They are selling
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Re: [AI] Unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-world-of-mobile-app-accessibility

[Minar Singh]

WCAG Quick reference Hello Saurav,
Please check out this URL
How to Meet WCAG (Quick Reference)

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 5:53 PM Saurav Hegde  wrote:

> Hello,
> So true, very nice article.
> I wanted to know, where are the WCAG guidelines available to read and
> share?
>
> Warm regards,
> Saurav
>
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 4:20 PM Rahul Gambhir 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sharing an article on mobile apps accessibility by Dr Nirmita Narasimhan
>> and TV Ramachandran
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.communicationstoday.co.in/unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-world-of-mobile-app-accessibility/
>>
>>
>> Unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-world-of-mobile-app-accessibility
>>
>> In a country of over 1.2 billion mobile phone users and over 600 million
>> smart phone users, it is little wonder that mobile apps have emerged as the
>> preferred platform for information, business, interaction, governance,
>> education, and recreation. In 2022 alone, Indian users downloaded over 28
>> billion apps on their phones, accounting for 5 percent of the global
>> downloads and placing India in the second position globally. We use apps
>> for almost all our daily transactions, from paying bills, banking, and
>> social interaction to meeting our daily living needs. So, what do people
>> look for when they decide to download
>>
>> and start using an app, other than the obvious purpose that it serves?
>> How is the user experience for different users, such as older persons or
>> persons with disabilities? Persons with disabilities need user-friendly
>> technologies in their daily life, just like everyone else – in fact the
>> need is much more
>>
>> intense for the former since technology has the power to eliminate access
>> barriers and limitations. The mobile phone with assistive technologies has
>> been a dream come true for many persons with disabilities who were
>> previously unable to communicate and access mainstream products and
>> services. Technologies, such as speech-to-text and text-to-speech,
>> dictation, captioning and audio descriptions, ergonomic keyboards, modified
>> hardware, etc., have empowered persons
>>
>> with disabilities to be independent. However, they continue to be a
>> neglected user group as many developers of apps and other technologies do
>> not take
>>
>> their needs into account, despite the fact that they form a huge
>> percentage of the Indian population. Consequently, a large number of mobile
>> apps, both public as well as private, are inaccessible and cannot be used
>> effectively by these groups.
>>
>>
>>
>> When asked about their concerns around using mobile apps, users with
>> disabilities have expressed that they face a dilemma whenever they need to
>> download
>>
>> an app, because they are unsure about whether the app is accessible and
>> usable. Often, just not having a clean and simple interface makes the app
>> difficult to use for persons with disabilities and older persons. There is
>> also serious concern regarding compliance with data security standards and
>> whether personal information is secure. For users with visual impairments,
>> a significant challenge is that app design tends to be very visual
>> oriented. The sole use of color to differentiate, lack of headings, or
>> image descriptions are only a couple of common issues that make it very
>> difficult for persons with visual impairments to navigate apps. In addition
>> to inaccessibility, there
>>
>> are also usability issues. The lack of user interface research renders
>> the user experience to be very frustrating and ineffective. For instance, a
>> task
>>
>> which would ordinarily take only two steps, could require a person using
>> an assistive technology to go through 4–5 steps or use work arounds to
>> complete.
>>
>> Sometimes, even the simple task of resetting one’s password requires the
>> punching in of the old and new passwords at least five times at different
>> stages
>>
>> of the journey, such as during the login, transaction, and OTP stage,
>> which is difficult for many people.
>>
>> Financial apps are, again, a source of concern for persons with
>> disabilities in India, with the apps of many financial institutions being
>> cluttered and
>>
>> difficult to use. Persons with disabilities and older persons are also
>> vulnerable to fraud and traps. For instance, merely availing of a personal
>> loan
>>
>> is worrying because of the potential of data security lapses. Several
>> users feel that the user interface in apps facilitating pre-approved loans
>> is so complicated that a person using assistive technology is not able to
>> complete the journey. On the other hand, the apps of some private banking
>> institutions,
>>
>> such as NBFCs have simple user interfaces, where users can get loans
>> through a series of clicks. An additional challenge with financial apps is
>> that institutions
>>
>> get access to all the personal data of the user. Due to 

Re: [AI] Unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-world-of-mobile-app-accessibility

[Saurav Hegde]

Hello,
So true, very nice article.
I wanted to know, where are the WCAG guidelines available to read and share?

Warm regards,
Saurav

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 4:20 PM Rahul Gambhir 
wrote:

> Dear List,
>
>
>
> Sharing an article on mobile apps accessibility by Dr Nirmita Narasimhan
> and TV Ramachandran
>
>
>
>
> https://www.communicationstoday.co.in/unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-world-of-mobile-app-accessibility/
>
>
> Unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-world-of-mobile-app-accessibility
>
> In a country of over 1.2 billion mobile phone users and over 600 million
> smart phone users, it is little wonder that mobile apps have emerged as the
> preferred platform for information, business, interaction, governance,
> education, and recreation. In 2022 alone, Indian users downloaded over 28
> billion apps on their phones, accounting for 5 percent of the global
> downloads and placing India in the second position globally. We use apps
> for almost all our daily transactions, from paying bills, banking, and
> social interaction to meeting our daily living needs. So, what do people
> look for when they decide to download
>
> and start using an app, other than the obvious purpose that it serves? How
> is the user experience for different users, such as older persons or
> persons with disabilities? Persons with disabilities need user-friendly
> technologies in their daily life, just like everyone else – in fact the
> need is much more
>
> intense for the former since technology has the power to eliminate access
> barriers and limitations. The mobile phone with assistive technologies has
> been a dream come true for many persons with disabilities who were
> previously unable to communicate and access mainstream products and
> services. Technologies, such as speech-to-text and text-to-speech,
> dictation, captioning and audio descriptions, ergonomic keyboards, modified
> hardware, etc., have empowered persons
>
> with disabilities to be independent. However, they continue to be a
> neglected user group as many developers of apps and other technologies do
> not take
>
> their needs into account, despite the fact that they form a huge
> percentage of the Indian population. Consequently, a large number of mobile
> apps, both public as well as private, are inaccessible and cannot be used
> effectively by these groups.
>
>
>
> When asked about their concerns around using mobile apps, users with
> disabilities have expressed that they face a dilemma whenever they need to
> download
>
> an app, because they are unsure about whether the app is accessible and
> usable. Often, just not having a clean and simple interface makes the app
> difficult to use for persons with disabilities and older persons. There is
> also serious concern regarding compliance with data security standards and
> whether personal information is secure. For users with visual impairments,
> a significant challenge is that app design tends to be very visual
> oriented. The sole use of color to differentiate, lack of headings, or
> image descriptions are only a couple of common issues that make it very
> difficult for persons with visual impairments to navigate apps. In addition
> to inaccessibility, there
>
> are also usability issues. The lack of user interface research renders the
> user experience to be very frustrating and ineffective. For instance, a task
>
> which would ordinarily take only two steps, could require a person using
> an assistive technology to go through 4–5 steps or use work arounds to
> complete.
>
> Sometimes, even the simple task of resetting one’s password requires the
> punching in of the old and new passwords at least five times at different
> stages
>
> of the journey, such as during the login, transaction, and OTP stage,
> which is difficult for many people.
>
> Financial apps are, again, a source of concern for persons with
> disabilities in India, with the apps of many financial institutions being
> cluttered and
>
> difficult to use. Persons with disabilities and older persons are also
> vulnerable to fraud and traps. For instance, merely availing of a personal
> loan
>
> is worrying because of the potential of data security lapses. Several
> users feel that the user interface in apps facilitating pre-approved loans
> is so complicated that a person using assistive technology is not able to
> complete the journey. On the other hand, the apps of some private banking
> institutions,
>
> such as NBFCs have simple user interfaces, where users can get loans
> through a series of clicks. An additional challenge with financial apps is
> that institutions
>
> get access to all the personal data of the user. Due to the complex user
> journeys, there could be conditions that users with disabilities cannot
> easily
>
> access, which in effect remain hidden. This could potentially cause harm
> as people remain unaware of or unknowingly consent to conditions that they
> might not have agreed with, had they been able to access 

[AI] any user of brain port v200 on the list?

[manohar vaswani]

hello friends
I want to get in touch with anyone who has the firsthand experience of
using brainport

I have read many articles about brainport and its functioning
so I don't want any information about the device
if you have used it, please share your experience.

thank you
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Associate Professor,
Department of English
Shivaji University, Kolhapur
Cell: 09404825544
Office: 0231-2609189

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[AI] Any alternate for Samsung smart thing app?

[Minar Singh]

Hello Access Indians,
I need to use the Samsung smart thing app for connecting a few devices at
home but the app itself is not accessible. I'm surprised to discover that
This app is made by Samsung and it is inaccessible to me on a Samsung
device.. Do let me know if any alternate is available.

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Because we all are people first.

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[AI] Unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-world-of-mobile-app-accessibility

[Rahul Gambhir]

Dear List, 

 

Sharing an article on mobile apps accessibility by Dr Nirmita Narasimhan and
TV Ramachandran

 

https://www.communicationstoday.co.in/unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-w
orld-of-mobile-app-accessibility/

 


Unlocking-inclusivity-navigating-the-world-of-mobile-app-accessibility


In a country of over 1.2 billion mobile phone users and over 600 million
smart phone users, it is little wonder that mobile apps have emerged as the
preferred platform for information, business, interaction, governance,
education, and recreation. In 2022 alone, Indian users downloaded over 28
billion apps on their phones, accounting for 5 percent of the global
downloads and placing India in the second position globally. We use apps for
almost all our daily transactions, from paying bills, banking, and social
interaction to meeting our daily living needs. So, what do people look for
when they decide to download

and start using an app, other than the obvious purpose that it serves? How
is the user experience for different users, such as older persons or persons
with disabilities? Persons with disabilities need user-friendly technologies
in their daily life, just like everyone else - in fact the need is much more

intense for the former since technology has the power to eliminate access
barriers and limitations. The mobile phone with assistive technologies has
been a dream come true for many persons with disabilities who were
previously unable to communicate and access mainstream products and
services. Technologies, such as speech-to-text and text-to-speech,
dictation, captioning and audio descriptions, ergonomic keyboards, modified
hardware, etc., have empowered persons

with disabilities to be independent. However, they continue to be a
neglected user group as many developers of apps and other technologies do
not take

their needs into account, despite the fact that they form a huge percentage
of the Indian population. Consequently, a large number of mobile apps, both
public as well as private, are inaccessible and cannot be used effectively
by these groups.

 

When asked about their concerns around using mobile apps, users with
disabilities have expressed that they face a dilemma whenever they need to
download

an app, because they are unsure about whether the app is accessible and
usable. Often, just not having a clean and simple interface makes the app
difficult to use for persons with disabilities and older persons. There is
also serious concern regarding compliance with data security standards and
whether personal information is secure. For users with visual impairments, a
significant challenge is that app design tends to be very visual oriented.
The sole use of color to differentiate, lack of headings, or image
descriptions are only a couple of common issues that make it very difficult
for persons with visual impairments to navigate apps. In addition to
inaccessibility, there

are also usability issues. The lack of user interface research renders the
user experience to be very frustrating and ineffective. For instance, a task

which would ordinarily take only two steps, could require a person using an
assistive technology to go through 4-5 steps or use work arounds to
complete.

Sometimes, even the simple task of resetting one's password requires the
punching in of the old and new passwords at least five times at different
stages

of the journey, such as during the login, transaction, and OTP stage, which
is difficult for many people.

Financial apps are, again, a source of concern for persons with disabilities
in India, with the apps of many financial institutions being cluttered and

difficult to use. Persons with disabilities and older persons are also
vulnerable to fraud and traps. For instance, merely availing of a personal
loan

is worrying because of the potential of data security lapses. Several users
feel that the user interface in apps facilitating pre-approved loans is so
complicated that a person using assistive technology is not able to complete
the journey. On the other hand, the apps of some private banking
institutions,

such as NBFCs have simple user interfaces, where users can get loans through
a series of clicks. An additional challenge with financial apps is that
institutions

get access to all the personal data of the user. Due to the complex user
journeys, there could be conditions that users with disabilities cannot
easily

access, which in effect remain hidden. This could potentially cause harm as
people remain unaware of or unknowingly consent to conditions that they
might not have agreed with, had they been able to access the information
easily.

Another major problem faced by customers with disabilities is the lack of
access to timely customer service to resolve issues. Many apps do not
display an option to reach customer service in a prominent place on their
pages. People with disabilities have felt that even where they locate the
information and are able to call customer 

[AI] Problem of creating PDF with images without proper order.

[Saurav Hegde]

Hello to the group,
I want to share a problem that I am facing.
Suppose, someone has sent me a number of images containing text about the
same topic but in random order.
If I download them, merge them into a PDF and then convert the PDF with the
Saralx app, it still sounds gibberish as it was merged in  a wrong order.
This leads  to a dependency on the sited as you have to ask to read it in
logical order.
Someone please suggest something, so it is able to be done without sited
assistance.

Thanks in advance
Regards,
Saurav Hegde

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