Re: [AI] Licence for mobile speak

2014-09-28 Thread Neerajsaxena
This is confusing.
Thanks-Original message-
From: Rajneesh Gosain
Sent:  28-09-2014, 5.03  pm
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Licence for mobile speak


but it will not have those phinix  voices  it will work with nokia tts
and tts available for nokia screen reader

On 9/28/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 can I purchase it from code factory directly for 250 rupees?

 On 9/27/14, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes mam. M speaks is still available in ovi store.

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 rs.250? mobilespeak still available?
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 Dear list, i understand licence for speak is available for rs. 250if it
 is

 so please tell me how to get it.
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[AI] Licence for mobile speak

2014-09-27 Thread Neerajsaxena
Dear list, i understand licence for speak is available for rs. 250if it is so 
please tell me how to get it.
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[AI] Licence for mobile speak

2014-09-27 Thread Neerajsaxena
Dear list, i understand licence for speak is available for rs. 250if it is so 
please tell me how to get it.
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Re: [AI] Advocates for Blind, Deaf Want More From Apple

2014-07-12 Thread Neerajsaxena
Excelent post.
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From: Rahul Gambhir
Sent:  12-07-2014, 10.04  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Advocates for Blind, Deaf Want More From Apple


Advocates for Blind, Deaf Want More From Apple
Reuters, July 09, 2014
Source: 
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/advocates-for-blind-deaf-want-more-from-apple-555727
Advocates for the blind are debating whether to use a carrot or a
stick to persuade one of their oldest allies, Apple Inc, to close an
emerging digital
divide in mobile technology.

As digital life increasingly moves to the world of smartphones and
tablets, some disabled people with visual, hearing and other
impairments are feeling
more left out than ever.

As baby boomers retire and age, the number of people needing help is
multiplying. Many disabled advocates believe federal law requires that
apps be accessible,
but courts have not ruled on the issue. Few disabled want to risk alienating
Apple,
considered a friend, by fighting it.

Mobile apps that work well can transform a blind person's life,
reading email on the go or speaking directions to a new restaurant.
Some young blind people
no longer feel the need to learn Braille to read with their fingers, when
Siri
 and other computer voices can do the reading instead. Captions on
videos and special hearing aids bring hearing impaired into the
digital fold.

But when apps don't work, life can grind to a stop. Jonathan Lyens, a
San Francisco city employee, who is legally blind, has a hard time
browsing jobs
on professional networking site
LinkedIn.

The app is insane. Buttons aren't labeled. It's difficult to
navigate, said Lyens. When it comes to social media apps, new
problems arise with every
release, he said. I get nervous every time I hit the update button.

LinkedIn has hired an accessibility chief, Jennison Asuncion, who
himself is blind, and says it is working to improve the app.

Still, advocates of the disabled want the problem solved by the
company at the center of the app world Apple. Rival
Google
 Inc, whose
Android
 operating system drives more phones than Apple, is also under
pressure, but as the creator of the modern smartphone and a long-time
champion for the blind,
Apple is feeling the most heat.

Apple hasn't been a steady champion: the National Federation of the
Blind sued it in 2008 over accessibility of iTunes. Apple settled,
agreeing to pay
$250,000 and adding captions and other accessibility improvements to
iTunes. Since then it has added more such features to its
iPhone,
iPod,
iPad
 and
Apple TV
 products.

Now, Apple and Google both have developer guidelines on how to make
features accessible, such as labeling buttons that can be read by
Apple's VoiceOver
software.

But they don't require accessibility, in contrast to other strictly
enforced rules, such as a ban on apps that present crude or
objectionable content.
Nor do they offer an accessibility rating system, which some disabled
advocates say would be a big help.

That is where the new debate starts: should the blind return to court
for protection they believe is guaranteed by law, or nudge their old
ally to work
harder? Should they pursue app makers, as some lawyers have, or Apple
and Google?

Attorney Daniel Goldstein, who brought the suit against Apple in 2008
as counsel for the National Federation of the Blind, said the 2008
action could provide
a model for a suit focused on apps, but the Federation says no lawsuit
is being considered.

At last week's National Federation of the Blind convention, members
approved a resolution to press Apple to create and enforce
accessibility standards.
In the halls there was some debate about whether or when to play hard
ball over requirements that apps be accessible.

It's time for Apple to step up or we will take the next step, said
Michael Hingson, board member for the National Association of the
Blind's California
chapter, describing litigation as the only resort if Apple did not
bring accessibility requirements to the app store.

To be sure, Apple, Google,
Twitter
 and other technology companies have increasingly accommodated users
with impairments in recent years.

Many developers are ready to help when they learn there is a problem,
said Chris Maury, whose Conversant Labs builds apps for the visually
impaired.

I try to lead with the carrot and not the stick. It's better to
inform developers that accessibility is the right thing to do and an
opportunity to reach
a whole new base of users. It shouldn't just be about compliance or
avoiding legal risks, he said.

man_using_iphone_in_front_of_apple_store_ap.jpg

There is a worldwide market of 1.1 billion people with disabilities,
according to research firm Fifth Quadrant Analytics. Nearly 21 million
U.S. adults
experience vision loss, according to the 2012 National Health
Interview Survey, and approximately 28 million have a hearing
impairment, according to the
American Speech-Language-Hearing Association.

Apple Chief Executive

Re: [AI] Advocates for Blind, Deaf Want More From Apple

2014-07-12 Thread Neerajsaxena
Excelent post.
Thanks-Original message-
From: Rahul Gambhir
Sent:  12-07-2014, 10.04  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Advocates for Blind, Deaf Want More From Apple


Advocates for Blind, Deaf Want More From Apple
Reuters, July 09, 2014
Source: 
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/advocates-for-blind-deaf-want-more-from-apple-555727
Advocates for the blind are debating whether to use a carrot or a
stick to persuade one of their oldest allies, Apple Inc, to close an
emerging digital
divide in mobile technology.

As digital life increasingly moves to the world of smartphones and
tablets, some disabled people with visual, hearing and other
impairments are feeling
more left out than ever.

As baby boomers retire and age, the number of people needing help is
multiplying. Many disabled advocates believe federal law requires that
apps be accessible,
but courts have not ruled on the issue. Few disabled want to risk alienating
Apple,
considered a friend, by fighting it.

Mobile apps that work well can transform a blind person's life,
reading email on the go or speaking directions to a new restaurant.
Some young blind people
no longer feel the need to learn Braille to read with their fingers, when
Siri
 and other computer voices can do the reading instead. Captions on
videos and special hearing aids bring hearing impaired into the
digital fold.

But when apps don't work, life can grind to a stop. Jonathan Lyens, a
San Francisco city employee, who is legally blind, has a hard time
browsing jobs
on professional networking site
LinkedIn.

The app is insane. Buttons aren't labeled. It's difficult to
navigate, said Lyens. When it comes to social media apps, new
problems arise with every
release, he said. I get nervous every time I hit the update button.

LinkedIn has hired an accessibility chief, Jennison Asuncion, who
himself is blind, and says it is working to improve the app.

Still, advocates of the disabled want the problem solved by the
company at the center of the app world Apple. Rival
Google
 Inc, whose
Android
 operating system drives more phones than Apple, is also under
pressure, but as the creator of the modern smartphone and a long-time
champion for the blind,
Apple is feeling the most heat.

Apple hasn't been a steady champion: the National Federation of the
Blind sued it in 2008 over accessibility of iTunes. Apple settled,
agreeing to pay
$250,000 and adding captions and other accessibility improvements to
iTunes. Since then it has added more such features to its
iPhone,
iPod,
iPad
 and
Apple TV
 products.

Now, Apple and Google both have developer guidelines on how to make
features accessible, such as labeling buttons that can be read by
Apple's VoiceOver
software.

But they don't require accessibility, in contrast to other strictly
enforced rules, such as a ban on apps that present crude or
objectionable content.
Nor do they offer an accessibility rating system, which some disabled
advocates say would be a big help.

That is where the new debate starts: should the blind return to court
for protection they believe is guaranteed by law, or nudge their old
ally to work
harder? Should they pursue app makers, as some lawyers have, or Apple
and Google?

Attorney Daniel Goldstein, who brought the suit against Apple in 2008
as counsel for the National Federation of the Blind, said the 2008
action could provide
a model for a suit focused on apps, but the Federation says no lawsuit
is being considered.

At last week's National Federation of the Blind convention, members
approved a resolution to press Apple to create and enforce
accessibility standards.
In the halls there was some debate about whether or when to play hard
ball over requirements that apps be accessible.

It's time for Apple to step up or we will take the next step, said
Michael Hingson, board member for the National Association of the
Blind's California
chapter, describing litigation as the only resort if Apple did not
bring accessibility requirements to the app store.

To be sure, Apple, Google,
Twitter
 and other technology companies have increasingly accommodated users
with impairments in recent years.

Many developers are ready to help when they learn there is a problem,
said Chris Maury, whose Conversant Labs builds apps for the visually
impaired.

I try to lead with the carrot and not the stick. It's better to
inform developers that accessibility is the right thing to do and an
opportunity to reach
a whole new base of users. It shouldn't just be about compliance or
avoiding legal risks, he said.

man_using_iphone_in_front_of_apple_store_ap.jpg

There is a worldwide market of 1.1 billion people with disabilities,
according to research firm Fifth Quadrant Analytics. Nearly 21 million
U.S. adults
experience vision loss, according to the 2012 National Health
Interview Survey, and approximately 28 million have a hearing
impairment, according to the
American Speech-Language-Hearing Association.

Apple Chief Executive

Re: [AI] reg.NEGATIVE VOTING

2014-03-12 Thread Neerajsaxena
Negative thinking does not help, we must increase are participation in the 
process, tell me howmany of us are willing to contest the comming elections. 
There can be no solution in seclusion lets device ways for inclusion, the path 
is long and difficult. But there is no other choice. 
Thanks-Original message-
From: Shivadas Mattanur ent:  12-03-2014, 5.06  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] reg.NEGATIVE VOTING


Friends across the nation India, 
why do we hide ourselvs?  why  our  problems have to seek   come towards us.  
pls  try  to  debate, discuss,  deliver,  deliberate  our issues,  ideas in an 
expose  through  an  open  platform  like facebook,  twitter  by  linking  
access India an exclusive  launch   visually challenged  can be made accessible 
 directly  to our  sighted pals   wellwishers,  to  have an  access to  the  
inclusive  eyesfree world  of  sharingcaring.  this may open  their eyes.
Heartfelt grattitudesgreetings,-Original message-
From: rajagopal 78
Sent:  12/03/2014, 3:48  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] reg.NEGATIVE VOTING


Dear Friends,



As you all aware, neither of our representatives nor bureaucrats are
looking into our problems.



Due to political dead lock of our bill could not be passed in this session,
besides approaching suprem court as well as high court of different states.



We have not succeeded anything with agitation and dharan. We have not
achieved what we want. Now we have other tool in the form of *NEGATIVE VOTE*.




Therefore, I urge everybody to make use of this *NEGATIVE VOTING* in
Electronic machine (negative voting symbol is *SQUARE BOX*).


Exercise your franchise and raise your voice.

Thanks  Regards
Rajgopal N
9844651950 / 8762301662


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Re: [AI] Kafila: Disability Rights And Parental Activism - Can They Co-Exist? Shubhangi Vaidya

2014-03-07 Thread Neerajsaxena
It is difficult to organise a cross disability movement because some sections 
are not able to speak for themselves, wile others are vary vocal, there will 
always be problem when ever we try to undertake to do something in common. 
Under the circumstances each one should look after their interest. 
Thanks-Original message-
From: Ketan Kothari
Sent:  07-03-2014, 1.16  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Cc: jnuvision
Subject: Re: [AI] Kafila: Disability Rights And Parental Activism - Can They 
Co-Exist? Shubhangi Vaidya


Hi friends,

Excellent and thoughtprovoking blog indeed.  I have been thinkind for
several years whether western models of disability could be
superimposed in a society that is ridden with so many inadequacies and
unsurmountable inequalities.

I firmly believe that parents need to be involved in the disability
movement at least for those disabilities that cannot speak for
themselves.  Also, treating disability as a homogeneous subject is
absolutely absurd.  A blind and orthopedically disabled is
comparatively better exposed than those with hearing disabilities and
the intellectually disabled and mentally retarded have a long way to
go.  Probably that is the reason why many corporates and civil society
organizations shy away from getting involved in our affairs.  I would
welcome a discussion on the topic.

I have some more to say subsequently.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 3/7/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guest Post by SHUBHANGI VAIDYA
 http://kafila.org/2014/03/06/disability-rights-and-parental-activism-can-they-co-exist-shubhangi-vaidya/
 Parents are valuable allies in the Disability Rights Movement thanks
 to their intimate engagement with persons with disability. To view
 them as representatives of a 'disabling' society does them a grave
 injustice. However, the heated debates over the new Rights for Persons
 with Disabilities Bill introduced in the Rajya Sabha  have seen a
 confrontation of stances between two groups along these lines.

 The first group consists of vocal self-advocates who point out a
 number of weaknesses and contradictions in the Bill from a Rights
 perspective, citing the provisions of the United Nations Convention on
 the Rights of Persons with Disability ratified by India in 2007.

 The other group is a loose coalition of 'cross-disability' activists
 including lobbying for a speedy passage of the Bill, with crucial
 amendments, in what is the last session  of this Parliament and of the
 government of the day, which just happens to be UPA.

 It is important to note that this Bill has not just dropped down from
 the heavens; it is the end result of years of protracted
 consultations, contestations, confrontation by stake-holders across
 the sector. I do not propose here to go into the pros and cons of its
 provisions; rather, I wish to highlight a rather disturbing trend that
 I discern in the frenetic exchanges between some self-advocates in the
 sector and parent activists on the social media.
 Disabled activists seem to have bought the notion that parents are 'on
 the other side', representing the voice of a disabling society that
 would isolate and exclude persons with disability and subject them to
 a regime of charity, pity and welfare. They would deny persons with
 disability their rights, agency and full legal capacity thereby
 entrapping them in relationships of power and dominance to which they
 must meekly submit. This formulation is a product of the power and
 appeal of the 'social model' of disability which has been the
 ideological epicenter of the Disability Rights Movement which emerged
 in the United Kingdom in the 1970s and 1980s with the seminal works of
 scholars like Mike Oliver, Vic Finkelstein, Colin Barnes and others.
 Disability is viewed as a social creation, the result of inaccessible
 environments and societal attitudes rather than individual
 'impairments'. Despite the model's great resonance and appeal to those
 with physical disabilities, it lacks explanatory power when we talk
 about conditions like autism, and other 'mental' disabilities where
 there is an embodied reality, a real difference in being in the world
 that must be acknowledged and respected.

 For persons with autism, severe intellectual disabilities, etc. whose
 mental capacities and modes of engagement with the world are
 qualitatively different from the rest, the need for support is an
 undeniable reality which it will be short sighted and cruel to deny.
 To assert, for example that a person with severe autism is able to
 exercise full legal capacity and that any attempt to provide
 guardianship and support is plenary guardianship by any other name
 betrays an appalling lack of awareness about the daily lived realities
 of persons with 'high support needs' and their family. To assert that
 special schools or home schooling violate the right to 'inclusive'
 education 

Re: [AI] websites for english learning and writing

2014-03-04 Thread Neerajsaxena
Good work done. 
Thanks-Original message-
From: Sasidar Babu
Sent:  04-03-2014, 5.31  pm
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Subject: [AI] websites for english learning and writing


hi everybody
browse  below websites   they will be useful in learning english and
improving  your english writing.


MORE FREE COURSES (MOOCS)

1.  Writing for the Web:
https://www.open2study.com/courses/writing-for-the-web

2.  English Composition I:
https://www.coursera.org/course/composition

3.  First Year Composition 2.0:
https://www.coursera.org/course/gtcomp

4.  Principles of Written English (Part 1 ):

https://www.edx.org/course/berkeley/colwri2-1x/college-writing-2-1x-principles/1194

5.  Principals of Written English (Part 2):
https://www.edx.org/course-list

6.  Principals of Written English (Part 3):
https://www.edx.org/course/uc-berkeleyx/uc-berkeleyx-colwri2-3x-principles-1535

7. This course (Crafting an effective writer):
https://www.coursera.org/course/basicwriting
 will be offered again.

 Just add yourself to the Watchlist to be notified of when it starts:

8.  Start to write fiction:
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/start-writing-fiction

9.  The Future of Storytelling:
https://iversity.org/c/6?r=3be08
 (access to archived videos only)

10.
Free English courses (Self-paced MOOCs and online Diplomas) offered
by: Alison.com

*If you cannot access the websites by clicking on the links then
please copy and paste the links (ie URL) into your search address bar
.

___

Useful links for English Writing

1.
http://www.writingcommons.org/

2.
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/grammar-girl

3.
https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/section/1/

4.
http://www.uottawa.ca/academic/arts/writcent/hypergrammar/

5.
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/index2.htm

6.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/general/
 - (General\business English)

7.  Open2Studies short
little video course on writing for the web

8.
Dr. Jakob Nielson's work
on writing for the web

9.
http://www.bartleby.com/141/

 You must scroll down to see the contents of this guide and
click Next at bottom of page to see the entire guide.

10. Free Online Dictionaries:
http://dictionary.reference.com/

  Also:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
 AND
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/

http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/thanks

11. A self-paced program of videos and exercises for learning
English grammar:
https://caryacademy.haikulearning.com/melissa_davenport/grammaronlinepublic/cms_page/view/6326031

12.
http://www.myenglishgrammar.com/home.html

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Academic writing

* Thesis statements:
http://learninghub.une.edu.au/tlc/aso/aso-online/academic-writing/thesis-statement.php

* Academic essays:
http://learninghub.une.edu.au/tlc/aso/aso-online/academic-writing/academic-essays.php

* Citation Chart:
https://owl.english.purdue.edu/media/pdf/20110928111055_949.pdf

* Introductions:
http://writingcenter.unc.edu/handouts/introductions/

* Conclusions:
http://writingcenter.unc.edu/handouts/conclusions/

* Formatting Citations:
https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/02/

* Organizational Patterns in Academic Writing:
http://valenciacollege.edu/wp/cssc/documents/OrganizationalPatternsinAcademicWriting.
 pdf

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Other useful links:

1.The BBC does a good site for Learning English:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/language/

2.Business English:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/business/talkingbusiness/

3.Purdue Online Writing Lab: :
https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/974/2/

This has good resources for English as a second Language Students
(ESL) - Click on the   Navigation panel on the left-hand side of the
website page to see
the full menu.

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Targeted help

* Types of sentences:
http://www.yale.edu/graduateschool/writing/forms/Kinds%20of%20Sentences.pdf

* List of action verbs at:
http://www.oberlin.edu/career/students/documents/resume_action.pdf

ALSO:
http://www.westga.edu/~rmcrae/FYW/awesome_action_verbs.htm

* Download the free Crafting an Effective Writer Reading
Book covering grammar at:
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* Paragraphs:
http://writingcommons.org/process/organize/paragraphs

* For organizing your writing:
http:  //writingcommons.org/process/organize

* Types of Clauses:
http://www.yale.edu/graduateschool/writing/forms/Types%20of%20Clauses.pdf

* Tips for writing effective titles:
http://writing.umn.edu/sws/assets/pdf/quicktips/titles.pdf

* Tips on how to punctuate Titles:

Re: [AI] Need valuable suggestion must reply:

2013-12-28 Thread Neerajsaxena
My voat is for let me explore.
Thanks-Original message-
From: Rahul Bhatia
Sent:  29/12/2013, 10:09  am
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Need valuable suggestion must reply:


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for a website for the visually impaired like inclusive plannet, so
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here our teem suggest  few domain for this site as follow

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 access my world.com
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 interactive eyes.com
enable space.com
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website if you have other name in your mind that sutes this site so
please write here..





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Re: [AI] Sharing the experience about BEST (Mumbai)

2013-12-13 Thread Neerajsaxena
Mr. Moderater remove her from the list. If you post something on the list there 
is going to be a discussion if you can not stand it then getlost. 
Thanks-Original message-
From: Shweta Mishra
Sent:  13/12/2013, 12:13  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: RE: Sharing the experience about BEST (Mumbai)


well said vishal sir!
from nilima sir/mam's mail it seemsthat list members r real culprets.

On 12/13/13, vishal sharma sharma1010vis...@gmail.com wrote:
 forgive me for being impolite ,but it seems the problem that is being
 projected through this post ,lost its significance and it sounds like
 the main problem being faced ,by nilimaji ,is from the list and its
 members and not from best . I hope the moderators who from time to
 time guide us on our list behavior should intervene or do something.

 On 12/13/13, surendra salgaonkar surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is nothing but inferiority complex!

 On 12/13/13, bsvs...@gmail.com bsvs...@gmail.com wrote:

 -Original message-
 From: bsvs...@gmail.com
 Sent:  13/12/2013, 12:46  am
 To: neelima24su...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
 accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issues
 concerning the disabled.
 Subject: RE: [AI] Sharing the experience about BEST (Mumbai)


 Dear friend  the mail witch you have posted in the list itself shows
 your
 attitude. This is not the right way to talk. If you are not willing to
 talk
 to anybody or share with others there is no need to post your experience
 in
 a public forum.  -Original message-
 From: Amjad Ahmed Fitwala
 Sent:  12/12/2013, 11:43  pm
 To: neelima24su...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
 accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing the experience about BEST (Mumbai)


 Hi,

 I am very apologise to comment on your email, but may I please request
 you to control your harsh language on the forum? People can only
 contact on your phone and can send mails if you are mutually agreed to
 receive, but this is absolutely wrong to threat or challenge the list
 members by saying I am strictly warning here,  no personal calls or
 mails are allowed if it is not valid. If got any kind of mail, I will
 strictly forward that mail to moderator.

 Madam, People are not rude, you can just change your attitude and then
 try to see this world which is so beautiful. First we have to check
 our self and then comment on others if required.

 I once again apologise for this comment on your experience, because I
 believe that we all ar common and our problems and difficulties are
 also common, but that doesn't mean to be errogant on the list which
 may effect our reputation.

 Amjad Ahmed Fitwala

 Cell: 9833762173

 On 12/12/13, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Members!

 Here I am going to share an such a bad experience of BEST. After
 reading it you can post your views but please no need to take it too
 much lengthy. The second thing which is very very important no phones
 and private mail allowed on my personal mail, if it is not valid.
 Especially from unknown person. Other wise, I will forward that mail
 to moderator.

 I  always, go by bus to my College fromsome bussess like C 71, C 72,
 448,  440. Mostly I prefer these 4 bussess.

 Many time, drivers Cunducters both cooperate me in  precisely. But,
 yesterday's experience was somewhere, horible.

 When I climbed on buss, for 4 5 minits I did not get my sit. After
 getting it, the travelers are starting to talk very rudely. Just
 because, I was talking on phone   about an advertisement or whatever.
 They had started to creat the arguements about my handicapness, that
 also after seing that my eyes are closed.

 Very important thing is driver and cunducter both had not cooperated
 with me, in fact, cunducter had also started harassing me, by saying
 See see  walking with free passess. When I shown him his mistake,
 then, he said, now stop other wise, I will take the buss at the police
 station. I forced him, but he had not done it.

 When I talk to our Moderator Mr. Harish about it, he instantly passed
 me the told free number of BEST and I launched my complain.

 Heart felt thanks to Mr. Harish Sir, for this number.

 But, many times we face some kind of difficulties while climbing in
 buss. Before climbing they start buss. If we ask not to do it, then,
 they clearly ignore it. Even if, we ask the stops they don't response
 for it.

 I am not speaking it about the all the cunducters, but, many time   it
 happends with me. My experience says here. Not me.

 Anyways Here I am sharing the told free number for you. So that, you
 can get quick cooperation if you will get any kind of difficulty.

 Here is that number : 1800227550

 Still if any NGOs can do something for it for example sites are not
 proper and 

Re: [AI] Sharing the experience about BEST (Mumbai

2013-12-13 Thread Neerajsaxena
Mr. Moderater she lacks maturity, hence unfit to be part of any group, i 
repeat. 
Thanks-Original message-
From: Neelima Surve
Sent:  13/12/2013, 12:54  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing the experience about BEST (Mumbai


Friends!

Whatever I have posted, its all of my experience. So no need to talk
more about it. I posted it, because, I thought, if, it will become
helpfull someone who faces the problems like this. I know many people,
who faces such problems and said leave! , 2nd days, again sometime,
the same problem occurs in front of him/her. I remember 1 girl, whom
cunducter strictly told to left the buss, just because, she had not a
single coin. Friends I am not blaming all the cunducters.
 I use harsh language here, because, at once, when I asked for a
website, someone has sent me as an attachment of photo and was trying
to call me again  again. He was doing it when I warned him. In that
case, what should I do? I think, it is not wrong, if I told in a
strict manner that no personal mails are allowed.

I talked to Harish Sir about it. If he doesn't have any objection then
why you are telling me on my personal mail or AI List what to do from
my side?

I am not rude but, sometimes such boyes does this kind of wrong things
then what should 1 girl do?

What are you expecting from her?

Please don't comment if you don't know anything about anyone.



I have already forwarded that mail on where I got such a rude reply.




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[AI] Mobile speak

2013-12-06 Thread Neerajsaxena
Please tell me how to get above.
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Re: [AI] Where is my right to vote?

2013-11-26 Thread Neerajsaxena
I agree, actually some of us must join these parties or form our own. Who will 
take inetiative? Thanks. 
-Original message-
From: CVM
Sent:  26/11/2013, 5:48  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Where is my right to vote?


Dear Friends,
 
We are all aware that politics plays major role in our country to highlight
or solve the issues of vulnerable communities, but in my knowledge, I did
not hear from any political party those who are talking about the issues of
people with disabilities because they don't feel that disability community
should be vote bank for them, perhaps they don't know about our strength in
the society.  I feel that this is another reason of our exclusion because
till now disability is not an issue for GOVT. 
But my concern is that is there any political party who wants inclusion of
people with disabilities to empower them to understand the importance of
their one vote? 
Yesterday, I went to the poling booth to use my voting right to my favorite
leader, but when I reached and asked them to give me escort but they said
that we don't know about escort, however I managed and gave my slip to
officer and reached to voting machine, but there was no Braille sticker so I
faced difficulty to identify the button but I asked my relative and gave my
vote, after voting, I asked concern person that you are not following
instructions of supreme court then he said thatnobody gave us any kind of
instruction. After this incident, I called media and highlighted this
issues, and I will definetly file complaint to state election commission
because they did not follow the supreme court order in 10 districts of
Madhya Pradesh.
Friends, It is a very serious issue if I will not come out from my house to
use my vote then nobody will talk about your issues, therefore disability
community is facing this problem. Now we should wake up and we should use
our vote to show our strength to the political parties otherwise nobody will
talk about our issues. 
 
Thank you
 
Regards
 
Sonu
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Re: [AI] Announcing the AI convention dates

2013-11-23 Thread Neerajsaxena
Some time slot must be alloted for discussing the role of n.g.o. In changing 
times, as we all know many of us are landing goood jobs and well paid, what 
services are required to  improve the quality of life.
-Original message-
From: Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent:  23/11/2013, 7:04  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Announcing the AI convention dates


Their should also be some discussion on role of vi people in politics.

On 11/22/13, Alok Kaushik alok_kaus...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi Neeraj,
 Thanks for your response. If you could mention specific points that may need

 elaboration / clarification then I will be able to give more focused
 responses. In any case I am putting down some more of my thoughts to add to

 the details, if it helps.

 Suggestion is based on a much broader perspective and with a long term
 horizon in view. It is intended to extend enabling means of a better life to

 which some of us are fortunate to have. Many organizations and individuals
 are already working with that underlying objective. This suggestion is
 primarily to take that effort to greater scale, and enable an / or guide
 motivated individuals within our community to achieve it.

 It is understandable that only a small part of the total group strength may

 be looking to take up such a role / initiative, and that is why we may need

 a larger gathering of aware individuals to finally have a handful of such
 new leaders. It is my firm belief that even if only a small number of
 individuals may be the target audience of this, it could have a significant

 impact in a few years timeframe.

 Since individuals come from different backgrounds and have different levels

 of knowledge / awareness / expertise of various aspects of successfully
 running such initiatives, if we can create a pool of mentors and guides who

 are experienced in various associated fields it could be a real enabler.
 Also, it would allow individuals within our community to realize a sense of

 fulfilment, while generating employment, extending help to many others, and

 possibly touching upon several new focus areas.

 Thanks.
 Alok

 - Original Message -
 From: Neerajsaxena neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
 the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Announcing the AI convention dates


 Interesting idea, please elaborate or clear for people to understand the
 consept.
 -Original message-
 From: Alok Kaushik
 Sent:  21/11/2013, 11:46  am
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning

 the
 disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Announcing the AI convention dates


 Dear Mr. Harish,
 Here is my suggestion. This idea can be further refined by discussing with

 people experienced in this area.

 Topic: Social entrepreneurship in the area of accessibility / social
 sensetization / counselling / rehabilitation / improving quality of life

 Background:
 There may be several individuals, like me, who are more than willing to
 work in the social domain or possibly make it as as a key purpose in their

 lives. I think that it is extremely important to help in enabling this
 segment of individuals to take a significant step in overall scalability.

 This could greatly enhance geographical reach as well as cater to many
 more aspects.

 Following points / aspects can be covered in this regard.
 - Providing informational guidance regarding setting up a social
 entrepreneurship venture, ongoing operations and compliance, etc.
 - Creating a pool of individuals who are looking to work full time or part

 time in this area and have a drive to make a positive contribution. This
 can be for individuals who are looking at this as an employment
 opportunity, as well as for those who see this as something much more than

 employment.
 - Create a pool of mentors and guides who can provide a need based
 guidance during various stages of such a venture.
 - Create a platform / formal or informal group where all such individuals

 can connect and get started.

 In many cases people may be given a generic advice of getting associated
 with one of the existing organizations. While this could work for many
 cases, I see following limitations in that.
 - Any individual who has such an inner drive is very likely to have an
 idea about what and how he / she may want to do, which may not be what the

 nearby organizations may be doing.
 - Geographical location of such organizations may be a limitations for
 many individuals.
 - Individuals who are already leading these organizations and have
 established certain way of functioning may not appreciate any significant

 change in it.
 - Individuals would be functioning at different levels and would have
 different types of expertise, which may not be satisfactorily used

Re: [AI] Announcing the AI convention dates

2013-11-21 Thread Neerajsaxena
Interesting idea, please elaborate or clear for people to understand the 
consept. 
-Original message-
From: Alok Kaushik
Sent:  21/11/2013, 11:46  am
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Announcing the AI convention dates


Dear Mr. Harish,
Here is my suggestion. This idea can be further refined by discussing with 
people experienced in this area.

Topic: Social entrepreneurship in the area of accessibility / social 
sensetization / counselling / rehabilitation / improving quality of life

Background:
There may be several individuals, like me, who are more than willing to work in 
the social domain or possibly make it as as a key purpose in their lives. I 
think that it is extremely important to help in enabling this segment of 
individuals to take a significant step in overall scalability.

This could greatly enhance geographical reach as well as cater to many more 
aspects.

Following points / aspects can be covered in this regard.
- Providing informational guidance regarding setting up a social 
entrepreneurship venture, ongoing operations and compliance, etc.
- Creating a pool of individuals who are looking to work full time or part time 
in this area and have a drive to make a positive contribution. This can be for 
individuals who are looking at this as an employment opportunity, as well as 
for those who see this as something much more than employment.
- Create a pool of mentors and guides who can provide a need based guidance 
during various stages of such a venture.
- Create a platform / formal or informal group where all such individuals can 
connect and get started.

In many cases people may be given a generic advice of getting associated with 
one of the existing organizations. While this could work for many cases, I see 
following limitations in that.
- Any individual who has such an inner drive is very likely to have an idea 
about what and how he / she may want to do, which may not be what the nearby 
organizations may be doing.
- Geographical location of such organizations may be a limitations for many 
individuals.
- Individuals who are already leading these organizations and have established 
certain way of functioning may not appreciate any significant change in it.
- Individuals would be functioning at different levels and would have different 
types of expertise, which may not be satisfactorily used.
- It is not a scalable approach.

Thanks.
Alok





- Original Message - 
From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:29 PM
Subject: [AI] Announcing the AI convention dates


 Friends
 
 The time to meet up in person has come again. This time it is challo Delhi
 
 This is an early announcement, which means, the date and the venue is fixed. 
 The dates of the convention is February 15 and 16 2014.Venue India Islamic 
 center, New Delhi.
 
 You can gear yourself to do the necessary bookings for those out of Delhi.
 
 The convention partner is the vibrant Score foundation.
 We have aligned the dates to facilitate participating in Techshare of 
 Barrier-break which falls on Feb13-14.
 
 Continuing with our tradition, we leave the floor open to members to draw the 
 agenda of the convention. We will do our best to find suitable resource 
 person for it.
 So, let us have the topics. It is your chance to write the agenda. This 
 should come to us by November 25th .
 You can use this thread for making the suggestions.  
 Eagerly looking forward To meet up with each one of the AccessIndia family.
 
 Regards
 Harish Kotian.
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Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore

2013-11-19 Thread Neerajsaxena
Well sed friend, thanks to our dhan culture and dharmic beliefs even in mumbai 
our fellows reffer begging to hocking, what about educated once? To be a 
successful begger you are not suppose to have bath for many days your clothes 
must smell fowl, if you can not arouse pity you may fail. How can you?
-Original message-
From: muruganandan.k
Sent:  19/11/2013, 5:50  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore


hello friends, if I may add something to this discussion... What we
are experiencing in Indian societies is much paradoxical and quite
strange A blind person who is begging is able to earn within a day
more than what a hard-working blind person can get in a week. The
society, which sympathizes with a begging person's blindness doesn't
respect the honour and spirit of a blind selling small things or doing
some meager labours. I would say the reason for blind persons
resoughting to begging and sticking on to it is more with the
societiey's attitude. This issue needs a larger analitical debate and
more fruitful long-term works
thank you.

On 11/19/13, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good work avinash.
 Last year I got an opportunity to meet a blind person who was bagging
 at hanuman temple rajkot gujarat.
 I talked to him for 15 to 20 minutes.
 He was intelligent and 12th pass.
 He said that bagging is my business. And I am happy with it. I can
 earn 500 per day in this business without doing anything.
 I asked him to do something meaningful with his life. But he replied I
 don’t want to do anything.
 I really found him happy with his life.
 I couldn’t speak anything.
 I said him bye bye without giving anything.


 On 11/18/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 Nobody wants to begg, but hunger and burning stomach compell many to do
 so.
 We should respect these blind beggars, who are in absense of any
 elementary support by family and the state are compelled to begg for
 alms. they are fighting for bare minimum.There are thousands who are
 forced to begg like them.
 Can we do anything for them?
 They are six blind men, 2 Aged around thirty, two mid thirties and
 other two above forty.. Two are holding dirty rounded clowths and
 others have stranded their palms in anticipation of money and food and
 singing in corus.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pEmOXC3M8w
 Please if possible supply few data/surveys done on blind beggars in
 Indian cities I'm writing one piece on blind beggars for one national
 Indian Magazine. Please if you know any locality in Delhi where blind
 beggars live in groups then also inform me.
 ---
 Avinash Shahi
 M.Phil Research Scholar
 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore

2013-11-19 Thread Neerajsaxena
The solution is sheltered workshops, the idea was mooted but never implimented 
issue is who should run them ideally government must take full responsibility. 
Yes, begging should be discurraged by all.
-Original message-
From: Syed Imran
Sent:  19/11/2013, 11:00  pm
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore


I'm trying to explore the societal and psychological landscape of blindness,
begging and charity - hence the below questions. Please skip over to the
next message if this is a waste of your time.
Should we actually discourage blind beggers from carrying out their
practise, or just ignore them, or support them?
What influence can the begging blind people have on other blind people who
do not beg? Why would any blind person want to beg in the first place? Can
the reason be different from that of a sighted begger? 
Do all or most blind beggers beg with the intention of getting rich or is it
because of other reasons such as survival, desertion etc
If we want to stop the begging in the blind community, what is the ideal way
forward - Rehabilitation? Awareness? Legal reinforcement? 
Do the blind beggers have better prospects? Are they being threatened?
Misused? Are there any organisations covertly or undoly highlighting the
helplessness factors of the blind in raising funds? Do people become beggers
out of frustration?

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of ishita kapoor
Sent: 19 November 2013 15:06
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore

Good work avinash.
Last year I got an opportunity to meet a blind person who was bagging at
hanuman temple rajkot gujarat.
I talked to him for 15 to 20 minutes.
He was intelligent and 12th pass.
He said that bagging is my business. And I am happy with it. I can earn 500
per day in this business without doing anything.
I asked him to do something meaningful with his life. But he replied I don't
want to do anything.
I really found him happy with his life.
I couldn't speak anything.
I said him bye bye without giving anything.


On 11/18/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 Nobody wants to begg, but hunger and burning stomach compell many to do
so.
 We should respect these blind beggars, who are in absense of any 
 elementary support by family and the state are compelled to begg for 
 alms. they are fighting for bare minimum.There are thousands who are 
 forced to begg like them.
 Can we do anything for them?
 They are six blind men, 2 Aged around thirty, two mid thirties and 
 other two above forty.. Two are holding dirty rounded clowths and 
 others have stranded their palms in anticipation of money and food and 
 singing in corus.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pEmOXC3M8w
 Please if possible supply few data/surveys done on blind beggars in 
 Indian cities I'm writing one piece on blind beggars for one national 
 Indian Magazine. Please if you know any locality in Delhi where blind 
 beggars live in groups then also inform me.
 ---
 Avinash Shahi
 M.Phil Research Scholar
 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University 
 New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread Neerajsaxena
Absolutely right, we need political and social activity more then judicial.
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From: avinash shahi
Sent:  17/11/2013, 9:05  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police 
stations


Bhawani Sir

In Countries Like South Africa, Norway, Denmark have very worth-noting
seat allocation arrangement in place. Political parties are themselves
responsible to ensure representation of all sections. In these
countries Women don't have to seek and fight for reservation in
parliament. In South Africa, till few months ago, Education minister
was blind woman. And in Norway, Disabled people fight local election
in large numbers.
What I want to convey, its just a matter of political will and right intent.
And I think it is very much possible that blind people will be  MPs
and MLAs, then will play an effective role in future in India also.
We as a whole, need to introspect do we ever show our strength as
politically active citizens?
Do we ever make policy-makers and politicians realise look we are also
potential electorates? and can help in swinging the table?
Better we raise our own voice and don't become subjects of others as
was reflected when Salman Khursheed's wife Louis Khursheed's NGO was
in question and Arvind Khejriwal used this opportunity to cash in the
moment. but Now Tickets are being given, but where is disabled
candidate contesting on behalf of AAP?
And yes, as far as NGOs are concerned, Most of the NGOs are
individual-centric as mentioned by Nilika Mehrotra in her piece
'Disability Movement in India: Politics and Practice'.
I'm pasting few sentences from the piece very interesting read indeed:
'Post the PWD Act, in fact, a large number of disability issues
related NGOs have been set up. Many are small in size; the smaller
ones are flexible in terms of receiving funds and moving from project
to project and are not necessarily directed in their actions by the
state. But, these groups also suffer from personality cults and remain
leader centred. Ghai (2003) argues that disability rights
organizations are dominated by the concerns of middle-class men.
The problem, however, arises when their fight for 'disability rights'
subsumes agendas that are visible and significant only for the very
privileged of the disabled. Concessions in air travel, hotels, and
special parking facilities, though undeniably necessary, are
meaningful only to a selected population of the disabled. The truth is
that these issues do not resonate in the lives of the majority of
disabled who are further marginalized by virtue of their class, caste,
rural or urban residence, and most strikingly, gender. What is and
should be more significant for them are the issues of education,
employment, residence, technological aids, and accessibility, to name
a few. The reality, however, is that the majority of the disabled are
still fighting to secure the 'bare minimum'. (Mehrotra, 2013).

On 11/17/13, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 which party will give a ticket to blind person to fight in elections? in
 case of independent candidate, who will bear expenses. I don't live in
 virtual world and also don't believe on idealism, hence, i can't imagine
 whether it will become true or not.
 today's most of the NGOs are working for the blind are being lead by sighted

 people. how many NGOs working for the blind, deployed blind persons in their

 own organisation? how many blind persons are chief administrators of NGOs
 working for the blind? where as we fight for class 1 and 2 posts.
 how many blind administrators given opportunities to another blind person to

 become their personal assistant in their own offices? where as the personal

 assistant job is an identified job for blind. there is no integration itself

 in our society, how do we expect it from the main stream?
 personally i don't want to let blind person come in parliament.

 - Original Message -
 From: maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
 police stations


 hi ,
 one more thing i will like to add .
 i believe ,that
 some or other PWDS and especially VI should enter into politics strongly
 .
 because in india if we want our rights,we need the help of politics .
 and once any PWD occupies a good position in politics,i think that our
 journey and efforts will be simpler .
 and ,will like to know about any such politician with any kind of
 disability .

 thanks


 On 11/16/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Discussion is going in right direction where I wanted this to head.
 You are right Grassroot movement was the base on which many
 Institutes/NGOs as superstructures 

Re: [AI] Talking microwaves from Samsung in India?

2013-07-24 Thread Neerajsaxena

Thanks-Original message-
From: Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent:  07-24-2013, 12.01  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Talking microwaves from Samsung in India?
Vary interesting will solve many problems. No excuse for ladies.

Hello Bharat,
Greetings from the Helpdesk!

Here is the link and the basic information about the Microwave you
mentioned.

Samsung CE117ADV-B
MRP Rs. 18,240/-* [Price subject to change without prior notification]
32Lts.
Ceramic Enamel Cavity (5 yrs warranty)
Voice Guide
141 Auto Menu

You can also follow the link-
http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/home-appliances/microwave-oven/convection
/CE117ADV-B/XTL

The availability of the following needs to be confirmed and inquired with
Samsung. 

Hope it helps!!




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Of Bharat
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:20 AM
To: Accessindia
Subject: [AI] Talking microwaves from Samsung in India?

today while searching the exact phrase: 'microwave exchange offer' i
came across a link from Samsung that spoke of microwaves with voice
guidance in India. When i followed that link, i could find anything
any such device. Any ideas?
Just in case it makes a difference, i was searching this on my mobile!

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[AI] Limit on what?

2013-04-24 Thread Neerajsaxena
Friends here we are, the usual reaction limit membership,subject,etc,etc.when 
we will get over this mind set? Necessary to point out,all list members are not 
taking equal part.most are mere reader,there are a few activists,they are 
allrounders,ready to have a go.limit on what?god save us.

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[AI] Time to limit membership.

2013-04-24 Thread Neerajsaxena
Who initiated the idea? Please recmend his name for bharath rathna,because he 
represents the usli indian tendency.that is why we are socially so backword.how 
we will learn to open out?thanks.

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[AI] Stop over indulgence

2013-04-23 Thread Neerajsaxena
Mr. Moderater act swiftly before we are forced to shut shop,which is too 
bad.problem with we v.i. Is that we get inchanted and disinchanted by 
things,people too soon.do not deel with the man if you do not trust him.there 
is no reason for jumping to conclusion.more can be sed on this,but will be hard 
to swallow.thanks.

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Re: [AI] [SayEverything] Is marriage an another challenge for visually impaird?

2013-04-19 Thread Neerajsaxena

-Original message-
From: D H
Sent:  19/04/2013, 7.13  pm
To: Kapil; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Re: [SayEverything] Is marriage an another challenge for 
visually impaird?
How can i come on this mailing list?can any one help?mobile.09819001519:

hey Kapil,

i think couple of weeks ago Avinash posted some servay it was clear
that blind girl can get marry with a totally blind man but blind man
always prefer to get marry with a partial or sided girl,its not with
couple of people but majurity is this only


On 4/19/13, Kapil kapil0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friends d issue is very important so i want to discuss it on this huge
 platform .Whith best regard kapil email kapil0...@gmail.com facebook i.d
 kapil.mitt...@facebook.com mobile 09013386781

 -original message-
 Subject: Re: [SayEverything] Is marriage an another challenge for visually
 impaird?
 From: Ahmed Karim ahmedkari...@hotmail.com
 Date: 19/04/2013 1:54 am

 I am of the opinion that world is different for a sighted and blind. The way
 a blind can understand another blind, a sighted cann’t. A little example, if
 my capsloc key on laptop is not working while using jaws as expected, how
 big it is a problem for me, my fellow blind can understand. I believe mental
 compatibility is a must between two life partners. So that both could
 understand each other, if I want some one to just take care of me, I should
 better higher a maid. A blind girl could be an excilent choice for a VI
 person. I know many cuppels in Pakistan who are blind and living happally.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kapil
 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:04 PM
 To: sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Cc: Amit bhatt
 Subject: Re: [SayEverything] Is marriage an another challenge for visually
 impaird?

 There was a time when VH boys and girls were sorry to say but like
 untuchable for each other. But now, picture is not so disappointing. Slowly
 but surely d trand is changing. Because of our hard struggle, increase in
 exposure and technological developement, new opportunities r coming and we r
 availing them. Still we r not respecting and believing in our potential. At
 d same time, we r expecting to a sighted to accept and believe in us? What a
 irrony? Those who r understanding this, r changing d trand. In love maridges
 it's possible that u can get a spouse of equal status but in arrange, u have
 to compromise on certain things educationally finantialy etc'. U have to ask
 yourself very clearly what do u want? Phisical ease or mental satisfaction ?
 A servant who can do ruteen work? Or a life patner whom u can share
 everything? Why a sighted comes to us? Because of our finantial condition.
 Remember m saying about arrange marridges. Our focus is eyes, and there is
 offcourse money. What kind of relation it is? I know many, who had maried
 whith sighted and now going outside for emmotional support because they r
 not mentaly satisfy. If u choose your spouse on d basis of equal status, and
 of our own field, then chances of success r high.   Whith best
 regard kapil email kapil0...@gmail.com facebook i.d
 kapil.mitt...@facebook.com mobile 09013386781

 -original message-
 Subject: Re: [SayEverything] Is marriage an another challenge for visually
 impaird?
 From: Amit Bhatt misterbh...@gmail.com
 Date: 18/04/2013 9:28 pm

 In addition to this, mostly visually impaired or partially sighted girls
 believe that a blind boy or man cannot take proper care of her and perhaps
 her life is not secured with a blind guy. But I appreciate, some of females
 do not want to marry with a sighted man even though they get the opportunity
 to do so.
 I may write more on this soon, as I am engaged with some other work
 presently.

 Regards,

 Amit Bhatt

 - Original Message -
 From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com
 To: sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [SayEverything] Proposal for marriage


 Yes, Agreed with Bhawani sir.
 In fact, if totally blind women have to choose among totally blind,
 partially blind and sighted man, they also give priority to sighted
 and partially man over totally blind
 This trend is general, but some blind from both genders prefer own
 peers mates over any considerations, that is exception.
 All depends where both genders stand at maritable time on
 educational/economic fronts.
 moreover,there are many cases where after experiencing deception from
 sighted/partially partners, both make up their minds to patch up with
 totally blind partners.
 Let me share my own experience to substantiate my view.
 During my  initial graduation days, heartbeat of my left heart used to
 beat at extranormal pace for one very inocent, intellegent, soulful ,
 lovable, cute blind girl. I was in profound love and was in dellemma
 how to propose her to get her side of the story. somehow, i made this
 known to her one night on phone, that she was special for me. It was
 the time like Tsunami 

[AI] Marrige

2013-04-19 Thread Neerajsaxena
Friends we are once again entering in to a discussion on blind verses sighted 
this has been done earlier.this is totally personal whether one goes for blind 
or sighted life partner.it should left here. Ofcourse girls are loosers this 
aspect must be discussed.thanks.

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Re: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of fri

2013-04-18 Thread Neerajsaxena
Welldone shahi.you are really doing.vary interesting.you deserve a pat on the 
back.
-Original message-
From: avinash shahi
Sent:  17/04/2013, 3.17  pm
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of friend


Dear All

I don't know whether this is right platform for seeking partner for
marriage  but majority of members are visually challenged so thought,
my friend will get some help from here.
First I will mention my mail friend's traits:
He is 27 years old, Graduate from DU, partially blind, 5.11 height,
fluent in English and Hindi, loves alcohol fortnightly, employed with
SBI as PO, earning including H.R.A. is 60 thousand, location South
Delhi.

now, his expectations from prospective candidate
Girl should be graduate from DU, should be partially blind, age will
not have exceeded 25 by the end of 2013, ,no other family member
should be suffering from blindness, should be honest in her
depositions, have command over both English and Hindi, should be
compitent in socialising, should have soft-voice, fair-looking, 5.5 or
above height, employed/unemployed, better if she drinks alcohol, if
not then fair enough.
Note: no dowry required.Rest is negotiable between the two or their families.
willing candidates, may shoot me mail off the list.
-- 
Avinash Shahi
MPhil Research Scholar
Centre for the Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of friend keep it up. Thanks.you will succeed good luck.

2013-04-18 Thread Neerajsaxena

-Original message-
From: srikanth bolla
Sent:  19/04/2013, 9.10  am
To: 'B. R. Nautial'; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of friend


Guys I don't understand why this platform is not right to discuss social
issues. We are here to discuss various issues and solve problems faced by
visually challenged people.  I don't see this notification is wrong since
this platform has big number of people, I feel marriage search is completely
valid.  I think all list members should vote and make new guidelines for
this platform rather than depend on the old draft of guidelines made by
someone whom we don't know.  When we are discussing about marriages and
other social, cultural, sexual issues of disabled people, why is marriage
research email wrong? Regards,

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of B. R. Nautial
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of friend

of course! this is not the right platform for this kind of mails and this is
equally true, these people also know this so, moderator should have taken
this issue seriously. These people should be warned.
- Original Message -
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: ndgadhv...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of friend


 please switch this mail over to sayeverything mailing group
 - Original Message -
 From: N D Gadhvi ndgadhv...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 7:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of friend


 Hello. Asking for just curiosity.  why she should be grajute from 
 only d u?
 -Original message-
 From: Syed Imran
 Sent:  19/04/2013, 7:27  am
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of friend


 Just curious - what difference does it make even if the other person 
 is blind in the bride's family?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of avinash shahi
 Sent: 17 April 2013 15:18
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Search for suitable spouse on behalf of friend

 Dear All

 I don't know whether this is right platform for seeking partner for 
 marriage but majority of members are visually challenged so thought, 
 my friend will get some help from here.
 First I will mention my mail friend's traits:
 He is 27 years old, Graduate from DU, partially blind, 5.11 height, 
 fluent in English and Hindi, loves alcohol fortnightly, employed with 
 SBI as PO, earning including H.R.A. is 60 thousand, location South 
 Delhi.

 now, his expectations from prospective candidate Girl should be 
 graduate from DU, should be partially blind, age will not have 
 exceeded 25 by the end of 2013, ,no other family member should be 
 suffering from blindness, should be honest in her depositions, have 
 command over both English and Hindi, should be compitent in 
 socialising, should have soft-voice, fair-looking,
 5.5 or above height, employed/unemployed, better if she drinks 
 alcohol, if not then fair enough.
 Note: no dowry required.Rest is negotiable between the two or their 
 families.
 willing candidates, may shoot me mail off the list.
 --
 Avinash Shahi
 MPhil Research Scholar
 Centre for the Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru 
 University New Delhi India

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[AI] Research paper

2013-04-16 Thread Neerajsaxena
Dear mr.shahi as expected no one has reacted to the paper.but do not loose 
heart.i have noticed another interesting but disturbing feature.this must be 
viewed in the context of employment in open industry.our people are more happy 
amongst their own saught.this has serious implecations.as it is we are the 
victums of minority psychology because v.i.are a small minority at their work 
place.both have a problem of adjustment our fellows are not at all prepared to 
face the situation.it is even more difficult for those who have studied in 
special schools.an intensive training is needed to bring them up to the mark 
kanchan is moving in right direction.hope something worthwile is being worked 
out.all the best.

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[AI] Young people with disability

2013-04-13 Thread Neerajsaxena
Thanks mr.shahi for bringing to light the research paper.it is importent social 
cultural issues are discussed and saughted out.i do not understand why we are 
so indifferent to such things.or there is something in are setup?but we must 
come out of it.i know that people strike their own arrangements.such 
arrangements generally leave girls in a bad state.if this is discussed openly 
some new idea may be thrown up.it need not conform with conventional ways.how 
many of this list have red the paper and are ready to react.i am not 
hopeful.good luck.

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Re: [AI] New mobile phone

2013-04-12 Thread Neerajsaxena

-Original message-
From: Siddharthkumar Keshri
Sent:  11/04/2013, 10.18  am
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] New mobile phone


-- 
Sincerely
S K Keshri


Dear Access Indians,
I need to purchase a new mobile phone due to caused damage in the
first one.  I need that kind of mobile in which talking software
called Talks will work. So please suggest me which one should I buy?

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[AI] Need support workers

2013-04-10 Thread Neerajsaxena
Friends i have been trying to sell this idea to various n.g.os. But they run by 
individuals who run them as per their wims.the gov.does nothing.there is need 
for this service.there are couples who are both v.i. They have problems in 
things like shopping visiting doctor and parenting etc.sone n.g.os.must be 
persuated to start this.there can be helpers on retaner bases whose services 
can be utilised by those in need.think of it.good luck.

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[AI] Inclusion

2013-03-13 Thread Neerajsaxena
Sorry i am late in responding to shrinivasu inclusion is an issue can be at 
work or social cultural life even family for that metter i can share one 
example parent of a blind girl child were hiding their child under the bed if a 
visiter came to the house in mumbai people lock their disabled dependents all 
day and go to work still this is happening more to follow.

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[AI] Inclusion

2013-03-08 Thread Neerajsaxena
Nothing surprises me these days but what about inclusion? I have plenty to say 
let someone begin.

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[AI] Disabled emploies subjected to abuse at work

2013-03-07 Thread Neerajsaxena
Vary sad why such studies are not taken up here by any organisation there are 
hundreds of them atleast this will give us some bases to represent our problems.

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[AI] Inclusion

2013-03-07 Thread Neerajsaxena
With all respect i submit when there is so much talk of accessibility why one 
should not talk about limitation people are making technology bhagvan there was 
a lively discussion on marrige sparked by mass weddings of disabled couples i 
have my own views these days the pet word of all policy makers is inclusion why 
not have a simposium on inclusion covering all aspects.

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Re: [AI] query about JAWS and NVDA

2013-03-05 Thread Neerajsaxena

-Original message-
From: bhawani shankar verma
Sent:  05/03/2013, 7.10  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] query about JAWS and NVDA


jaws is undoubtedly a powerfull screen reader. as the bank is concerned, 
unfortunately, management is ready to provide screen reading software but, 
they are not agreed to make their portals accessible. in other words, most 
of the banking software like finacle and HRMS does not follow the 
international accessibility standard and web content accessibility 
guidelines. in that case providing either screen reader may not at all 
fulfil the purpose.

thanks,

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From: Nikita Vaid nikita.v...@bankofbaroda.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; vib-in...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:44 PM
Subject: [AI] query about JAWS and NVDA


 Hi dear list members,

 I have never used NVDA but would like to know precisely what is the
 difference between the functioning of JAWS and NVDA?

 Especially from the Office work point of view.

 The context of my question is that, if I was to recommend my Management
 to purchase a screne reading software for all the Vi employees in our
 Bank, than which software should I recommend, JAWS or NVDA? Knowing the
 fact that NVDA is definitely an economically viable option.  But what
 about its functionality?





 Kindly give me your honest views at the earliest.





 Thanks and warm Regards,

 Nikita V. Raut,

 Senior Manager [HR]

 Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,




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my friends i fail to understand just how much tech helps us in official work 
their are so many issues people who are not even able to go to there office on 
their own are talking of inclusion what image of blind they are projecting? 
There are serious social cultural issues we must face first those who do not 
mix amongest their people can not help even themselves forget about others.


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Re: [AI] query about JAWS and NVDA

2013-03-05 Thread Neerajsaxena

-Original message-
From: bhawani shankar verma
Sent:  05/03/2013, 7.10  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] query about JAWS and NVDA


jaws is undoubtedly a powerfull screen reader. as the bank is concerned, 
unfortunately, management is ready to provide screen reading software but, 
they are not agreed to make their portals accessible. in other words, most 
of the banking software like finacle and HRMS does not follow the 
international accessibility standard and web content accessibility 
guidelines. in that case providing either screen reader may not at all 
fulfil the purpose.

thanks,

- Original Message - 
From: Nikita Vaid nikita.v...@bankofbaroda.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; vib-in...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:44 PM
Subject: [AI] query about JAWS and NVDA


 Hi dear list members,

 I have never used NVDA but would like to know precisely what is the
 difference between the functioning of JAWS and NVDA?

 Especially from the Office work point of view.

 The context of my question is that, if I was to recommend my Management
 to purchase a screne reading software for all the Vi employees in our
 Bank, than which software should I recommend, JAWS or NVDA? Knowing the
 fact that NVDA is definitely an economically viable option.  But what
 about its functionality?





 Kindly give me your honest views at the earliest.





 Thanks and warm Regards,

 Nikita V. Raut,

 Senior Manager [HR]

 Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,




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[AI] No subject

2013-03-05 Thread Neerajsaxena
My dear friends i fail to understand how much tech is useful as far as official 
work is concern or it is only a means to keep oneself busy simply because there 
is nlthing more productive to do there are so many serious issues that are more 
relevent to us there are big social cultural issues need to be looked at people 
who can not even go to their work place are talking of inclusion what image of 
blind they are projecting ?how do they expect being included for blind it is 
not enough to acquire degree one has to learn how to get along those who do not 
mix amongst their own people can not help even themselves forget about others 
certainly their right to talk about inclusion debatable.

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