Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-28 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIn reply to the 
second point, disqualification on the basis of diabetes for all and not limited 
to the VI. To your third point, once disqualified due to diabetes, no question 
of giving alternative jobs. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pankaj Kwatra 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


  Hello All,

  Medical examination is done for various jobs and stringent norms are in
  place for some jobs. The question arising are:

  1. Job actually reserved for VI plus number of vacancies.
  2. Whether any person can be disqualified on basis of diabetes or it is
  the case of VI only.
  3. If disqualified for particular job then some other option can be
  offered.

  Please gather maximum information via RTI and decide course of action.

  THX
  Pankaj 

  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
  Sahu
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
  diabetes

  Hello Mr. Subramani,

  According to me, the best way of finding solution to this chaos is to
  first ascertain whether physically fit person too can be disqualified
  on the basis of diabetes or not.

  If this is a universal rule for all categories of candidates then it
  should not be related specifically with VI community. In this case, we
  may be one of the victims, but not the exclusive one.

  Well, I don't have idea about the definition of fit applicable to
  all for getting selected for Gov. jobs. But this can be easily
  obtained through RTI and its finding should determine the next course
  of action.

  1.  If it is for all, then concentration should be put on discarding
  such rules through strong arguments in legal battle. One of such can
  be that if person during service is not thrown out of job due to
  diabetes, then why not to appoint with it?

  2.  And, if the rule is specially applied for VI candidate, then I
  don't think that it would stand in any court on the basis of
  protection from discrimination.

  So, just proceed further and invest energy in setting things right.
  In my opinion, life's battle is not won by the support or comradeship
  of fellows, its your own determination which brings support and
  fellows for sharing success with you.


  On 2/27/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
   Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed
  the
   said posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast
   whether disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But
  after
   due verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
  diabetes
  
  
 Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for
  blind?
 If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than
   alleged diabetes.
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
   [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
  diabetes
  
 Hi,
  
 I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
 appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence
  I
 have changed the subject line.
  
 First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
 on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
 applies to this case.
 We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground
  of
 such diseases .
  
 Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has
  been
 disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
 if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
 shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.
  
 You may hear more from legal experts.
  
  
 --
 G. Vamshi
 PH Res : +91 877-2243861
 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 E-mail ID:
 gvamsh...@gmail.com
 Skype: gvamshi81
  
 www.retinaindia.org
 From darkness unto light
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
  A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
   medical
  examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
   Southwestern
  Railways. I seek the guidance

Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-28 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesDear Himanshu,  
Firstly, I am yet to get the relevant rules copy.  The railway people say this 
disqualification rule due to diabetes is universal (This I came to know only 
yesterday). I do agree with your at 1  2 non action is being initiated.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Himanshu Sahu 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


  Hello Mr. Subramani,

  According to me, the best way of finding solution to this chaos is to
  first ascertain whether physically fit person too can be disqualified
  on the basis of diabetes or not.

  If this is a universal rule for all categories of candidates then it
  should not be related specifically with VI community. In this case, we
  may be one of the victims, but not the exclusive one.

  Well, I don't have idea about the definition of fit applicable to
  all for getting selected for Gov. jobs. But this can be easily
  obtained through RTI and its finding should determine the next course
  of action.

  1.  If it is for all, then concentration should be put on discarding
  such rules through strong arguments in legal battle. One of such can
  be that if person during service is not thrown out of job due to
  diabetes, then why not to appoint with it?

  2.  And, if the rule is specially applied for VI candidate, then I
  don't think that it would stand in any court on the basis of
  protection from discrimination.

  So, just proceed further and invest energy in setting things right.
  In my opinion, life's battle is not won by the support or comradeship
  of fellows, its your own determination which brings support and
  fellows for sharing success with you.


  On 2/27/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
   Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed the
   said posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast
   whether disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But after
   due verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
  
  
 Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for blind?
 If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than
   alleged diabetes.
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
   [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
  
 Hi,
  
 I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
 appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
 have changed the subject line.
  
 First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
 on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
 applies to this case.
 We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
 such diseases .
  
 Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
 disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
 if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
 shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.
  
 You may hear more from legal experts.
  
  
 --
 G. Vamshi
 PH Res : +91 877-2243861
 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 E-mail ID:
 gvamsh...@gmail.com
 Skype: gvamshi81
  
 www.retinaindia.org
 From darkness unto light
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
  A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
   medical
  examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
   Southwestern
  Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
  whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The
   person
  is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all.
   This
  is very urgent. P. Subramani d
 
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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-27 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed the said 
posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast whether 
disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But after due 
verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Asudani, Rajesh 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


  Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for blind?
  If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than alleged 
diabetes.


  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

  Hi,

  I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
  appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
  have changed the subject line.

  First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
  on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
  applies to this case.
  We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
  such diseases .

  Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
  disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
  if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
  shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

  You may hear more from legal experts.


  --
  G. Vamshi
  PH Res : +91 877-2243861
  Mobile: +91 9949349497
  E-mail ID:
  gvamsh...@gmail.com
  Skype: gvamshi81

  www.retinaindia.org
  From darkness unto light









  On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
   examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
   Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
   whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
   is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
   is very urgent. P. Subramani d
  
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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-27 Thread Himanshu Sahu
Hello Mr. Subramani,

According to me, the best way of finding solution to this chaos is to
first ascertain whether physically fit person too can be disqualified
on the basis of diabetes or not.

If this is a universal rule for all categories of candidates then it
should not be related specifically with VI community. In this case, we
may be one of the victims, but not the exclusive one.

Well, I don’t have idea about the definition of “fit” applicable to
all for getting selected for Gov. jobs. But this can be easily
obtained through RTI and its finding should determine the next course
of action.

1.  If it is for all, then concentration should be put on discarding
such rules through strong arguments in legal battle. One of such can
be that “if person during service is not thrown out of job due to
diabetes, then why not to appoint with it?”

2.  And, if the rule is specially applied for VI candidate, then I
don’t think that it would stand in any court on the basis of
“protection from discrimination”.

So, just proceed further and invest energy in setting things right.
In my opinion, life’s battle is not won by the support or comradeship
of fellows, its your own determination which brings support and
fellows for sharing success with you.


On 2/27/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
 Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed the
 said posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast
 whether disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But after
 due verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
   - Original Message -
   From: Asudani, Rajesh
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
   Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


   Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for blind?
   If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than
 alleged diabetes.


   -Original Message-
   From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
   Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

   Hi,

   I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
   appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
   have changed the subject line.

   First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
   on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
   applies to this case.
   We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
   such diseases .

   Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
   disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
   if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
   shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

   You may hear more from legal experts.


   --
   G. Vamshi
   PH Res : +91 877-2243861
   Mobile: +91 9949349497
   E-mail ID:
   gvamsh...@gmail.com
   Skype: gvamshi81

   www.retinaindia.org
   From darkness unto light









   On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
 medical
examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
 Southwestern
Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The
 person
is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all.
 This
is very urgent. P. Subramani d
   
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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-27 Thread Pankaj Kwatra
Hello All,

Medical examination is done for various jobs and stringent norms are in
place for some jobs. The question arising are:

1. Job actually reserved for VI plus number of vacancies.
2. Whether any person can be disqualified on basis of diabetes or it is
the case of VI only.
3. If disqualified for particular job then some other option can be
offered.

Please gather maximum information via RTI and decide course of action.

THX 
Pankaj  

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
Sahu
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
diabetes

Hello Mr. Subramani,

According to me, the best way of finding solution to this chaos is to
first ascertain whether physically fit person too can be disqualified
on the basis of diabetes or not.

If this is a universal rule for all categories of candidates then it
should not be related specifically with VI community. In this case, we
may be one of the victims, but not the exclusive one.

Well, I don't have idea about the definition of fit applicable to
all for getting selected for Gov. jobs. But this can be easily
obtained through RTI and its finding should determine the next course
of action.

1.  If it is for all, then concentration should be put on discarding
such rules through strong arguments in legal battle. One of such can
be that if person during service is not thrown out of job due to
diabetes, then why not to appoint with it?

2.  And, if the rule is specially applied for VI candidate, then I
don't think that it would stand in any court on the basis of
protection from discrimination.

So, just proceed further and invest energy in setting things right.
In my opinion, life's battle is not won by the support or comradeship
of fellows, its your own determination which brings support and
fellows for sharing success with you.


On 2/27/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
 Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed
the
 said posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast
 whether disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But
after
 due verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
   - Original Message -
   From: Asudani, Rajesh
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
   Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
diabetes


   Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for
blind?
   If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than
 alleged diabetes.


   -Original Message-
   From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
   Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
diabetes

   Hi,

   I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
   appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence
I
   have changed the subject line.

   First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
   on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
   applies to this case.
   We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground
of
   such diseases .

   Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has
been
   disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
   if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
   shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

   You may hear more from legal experts.


   --
   G. Vamshi
   PH Res : +91 877-2243861
   Mobile: +91 9949349497
   E-mail ID:
   gvamsh...@gmail.com
   Skype: gvamshi81

   www.retinaindia.org
   From darkness unto light









   On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
 medical
examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
 Southwestern
Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard.
From
whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification.
The
 person
is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from
all.
 This
is very urgent. P. Subramani d
   
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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-26 Thread Umesha Economics
first of all, we have to get the recruitment rules putting that 
disqualifying conditions and other legal evidences of past solutions like 
the high court judgment in the HIV case and the PM interventions and then 
fight for the justice. as said earlier, legal experts can help in a long 
way.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com

To: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


[AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesThanks for 
your observations and changing the subject appropriately.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Vamshi. G

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
 Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


 Hi,

 I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
 appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
 have changed the subject line.

 First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
 on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
 applies to this case.
 We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
 such diseases .

 Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
 disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
 if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
 shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

 You may hear more from legal experts.


 --
 G. Vamshi
 PH Res : +91 877-2243861
 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 E-mail ID:
 gvamsh...@gmail.com
 Skype: gvamshi81

 www.retinaindia.org
 From darkness unto light









 On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
  A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing 
medical
  examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in 
Southwestern

  Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
  whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The 
person
  is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. 
This

  is very urgent. P. Subramani d
 
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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-26 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for blind?
If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than alleged 
diabetes.


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

Hi,

I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
have changed the subject line.

First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
applies to this case.
We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
such diseases .

Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

You may hear more from legal experts.


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On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
 A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
 examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
 Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
 whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
 is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
 is very urgent. P. Subramani d

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[AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-25 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi,

I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
have changed the subject line.

First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
applies to this case.
We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
such diseases .

Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

You may hear more from legal experts.


-- 
G. Vamshi
PH Res : +91 877-2243861
Mobile: +91 9949349497
E-mail ID:
gvamsh...@gmail.com
Skype: gvamshi81

www.retinaindia.org
From darkness unto light









On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
 A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
 examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
 Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
 whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
 is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
 is very urgent. P. Subramani d

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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-25 Thread Rama Chari
Thought there are no laws in the country regarding non discrimination/ 
reasonable accommodation  on ground of disabling medical condition, however, 
there was one case recently about a person with thalassameia who was denied 
entry into Civil Services. The Prime Minster intervened and his case was 
resolved.  Similarly, there was a case related to a person with kidney problem 
and I think High Court intervened.  I think it may be a good idea to test it in 
the Court giving these precedents.  

Does Govt dismiss employees who have diabetes? then why are they not recruiting 
them? 

Moreover, if the person can do the essential functions of the job with / 
without accommodations, refusing recruitment is discrimination. 

Rama  




 From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:44 AM
Subject: [AI]  Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
 
Hi,

I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
have changed the subject line.

First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
applies to this case.
We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
such diseases .

Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

You may hear more from legal experts.


-- 
G. Vamshi
PH Res : +91 877-2243861
Mobile: +91 9949349497
E-mail ID:
gvamsh...@gmail.com
Skype: gvamshi81

www.retinaindia.org
From darkness unto light









On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
 A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
 examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
 Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
 whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
 is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
 is very urgent. P. Subramani d

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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-25 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesDear Rama, my 
arguments coincides with your, if diabetics can be rejected for recruitment, 
then employees with the same disease should be thrownout of service. But let 
along that, government pays for treatment of such diseases even such aren't 
curable.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rama Chari 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


  Thought there are no laws in the country regarding non discrimination/ 
reasonable accommodation  on ground of disabling medical condition, however, 
there was one case recently about a person with thalassameia who was denied 
entry into Civil Services. The Prime Minster intervened and his case was 
resolved.  Similarly, there was a case related to a person with kidney problem 
and I think High Court intervened.  I think it may be a good idea to test it in 
the Court giving these precedents.  

  Does Govt dismiss employees who have diabetes? then why are they not 
recruiting them? 

  Moreover, if the person can do the essential functions of the job with / 
without accommodations, refusing recruitment is discrimination. 

  Rama  



  
   From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:44 AM
  Subject: [AI]  Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

  Hi,

  I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
  appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
  have changed the subject line.

  First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
  on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
  applies to this case.
  We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
  such diseases .

  Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
  disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
  if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
  shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

  You may hear more from legal experts.


  --
  G. Vamshi
  PH Res : +91 877-2243861
  Mobile: +91 9949349497
  E-mail ID:
  gvamsh...@gmail.com
  Skype: gvamshi81

  www.retinaindia.org
  From darkness unto light









  On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
   examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
   Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
   whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
   is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
   is very urgent. P. Subramani d
  
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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

2012-02-25 Thread P. Subramani
[AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesThanks for your 
observations and changing the subject appropriately.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vamshi. G 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
  Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


  Hi,

  I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
  appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
  have changed the subject line.

  First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
  on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
  applies to this case.
  We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
  such diseases .

  Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
  disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
  if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
  shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

  You may hear more from legal experts.


  --
  G. Vamshi
  PH Res : +91 877-2243861
  Mobile: +91 9949349497
  E-mail ID:
  gvamsh...@gmail.com
  Skype: gvamshi81

  www.retinaindia.org
  From darkness unto light









  On 2/18/12, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:
   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
   examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
   Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
   whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
   is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
   is very urgent. P. Subramani d
  
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