Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Hi, I have one question that is if we eat with spoones or forks then how will we notice if some unwanted substance is there in the food like stones or hair of a person which falls in the food or something like that? What i do is when I get some substance like that I notice only when it is brought near my tung. So to avoid this what should we do ? Is there some tool which comes along with the spoon or fork to understand before eating? Please sudjest something before sudjesting please sit back and think about this . Regard's, Phen On 4/6/12, shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi mohit, I am really sorry that unknowningly two empty mails were send by me. As comming to your query, when I took Oand M training in NIVH they taught me how to use spoon and fork. Being a VI we should prefer to eat by our fingers as Mr. Umesha suggested. As well as sceintific it is good to use our fingers to eat. Whenever you are eating noodles or some other food which is premitable using with spoon or fork, use two spoons or spoon and fork. When you are eating noodles insert the fork into the noodles and round the fork in 360 degree so that the noodles will stick to fork before eating touch the spoon which is in your left hand so that we can know wether there is any food material is there is are not. I trieed to explain but i do not know how far it is elivated to you. regards, Sazid.sk --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Only when that unwanted thing enters your mouth !(Smile) - Original Message - From: Phen Varghese phenvargh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi, I have one question that is if we eat with spoones or forks then how will we notice if some unwanted substance is there in the food like stones or hair of a person which falls in the food or something like that? What i do is when I get some substance like that I notice only when it is brought near my tung. So to avoid this what should we do ? Is there some tool which comes along with the spoon or fork to understand before eating? Please sudjest something before sudjesting please sit back and think about this . Regard's, Phen On 4/6/12, shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi mohit, I am really sorry that unknowningly two empty mails were send by me. As comming to your query, when I took Oand M training in NIVH they taught me how to use spoon and fork. Being a VI we should prefer to eat by our fingers as Mr. Umesha suggested. As well as sceintific it is good to use our fingers to eat. Whenever you are eating noodles or some other food which is premitable using with spoon or fork, use two spoons or spoon and fork. When you are eating noodles insert the fork into the noodles and round the fork in 360 degree so that the noodles will stick to fork before eating touch the spoon which is in your left hand so that we can know wether there is any food material is there is are not. I trieed to explain but i do not know how far it is elivated to you. regards, Sazid.sk --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Thankyou so much. smile :-) some more sudjestions are expected to come. Regard's, Phen On 4/7/12, Surinder suna1...@gmail.com wrote: Only when that unwanted thing enters your mouth !(Smile) - Original Message - From: Phen Varghese phenvargh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi, I have one question that is if we eat with spoones or forks then how will we notice if some unwanted substance is there in the food like stones or hair of a person which falls in the food or something like that? What i do is when I get some substance like that I notice only when it is brought near my tung. So to avoid this what should we do ? Is there some tool which comes along with the spoon or fork to understand before eating? Please sudjest something before sudjesting please sit back and think about this . Regard's, Phen On 4/6/12, shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi mohit, I am really sorry that unknowningly two empty mails were send by me. As comming to your query, when I took Oand M training in NIVH they taught me how to use spoon and fork. Being a VI we should prefer to eat by our fingers as Mr. Umesha suggested. As well as sceintific it is good to use our fingers to eat. Whenever you are eating noodles or some other food which is premitable using with spoon or fork, use two spoons or spoon and fork. When you are eating noodles insert the fork into the noodles and round the fork in 360 degree so that the noodles will stick to fork before eating touch the spoon which is in your left hand so that we can know wether there is any food material is there is are not. I trieed to explain but i do not know how far it is elivated to you. regards, Sazid.sk --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Yes this is also something that we need to think about. Thanks for raising it. but I bet even sighted folks can't avoid this situation completely, so if you think you got a stone or a hair in your mouth, just take it off with your hand and continue eating. As for avoiding the situation, I don't know about the hair, but you can detect stone with the spoon if the food is semi solid, I know it get's confusing if you also have bone there, but I guess you can just pick it up with your fingers and put it by the side of the plate and continue the batting. I don't use spoon or fork if I think I can manage without it, to me it all depends on the kind of a social setting I'm in. but Icecream is something that I cannot manage only with my fingers. But It becomes tough when the icecream is served on these thin paper plates - it definitely impacts my dining experience and I get so annoyed if I miss out having icecream just because it is so inaccessible. I seriously feel that eating places and eating tools have to be made more accessible, it surely deserves more importance as much as any library or a laboratory or a sports ground any day. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese Sent: 07 April 2012 11:38 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi, I have one question that is if we eat with spoones or forks then how will we notice if some unwanted substance is there in the food like stones or hair of a person which falls in the food or something like that? What i do is when I get some substance like that I notice only when it is brought near my tung. So to avoid this what should we do ? Is there some tool which comes along with the spoon or fork to understand before eating? Please sudjest something before sudjesting please sit back and think about this . Regard's, Phen On 4/6/12, shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi mohit, I am really sorry that unknowningly two empty mails were send by me. As comming to your query, when I took Oand M training in NIVH they taught me how to use spoon and fork. Being a VI we should prefer to eat by our fingers as Mr. Umesha suggested. As well as sceintific it is good to use our fingers to eat. Whenever you are eating noodles or some other food which is premitable using with spoon or fork, use two spoons or spoon and fork. When you are eating noodles insert the fork into the noodles and round the fork in 360 degree so that the noodles will stick to fork before eating touch the spoon which is in your left hand so that we can know wether there is any food material is there is are not. I trieed to explain but i do not know how far it is elivated to you. regards, Sazid.sk --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
If it is a vegetarian food then what will you do? Leave the bones i don't want to know about chicken bones or anything like that i want to know what will happen if this is there in the veg foods? will you be able to feel it? If you take the case of sighted people they can see before eating but for us we can only see after bringing it to our mouth . so what is your sudjestion now regarding this? On 4/7/12, SYED IMRAN syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Yes this is also something that we need to think about. Thanks for raising it. but I bet even sighted folks can't avoid this situation completely, so if you think you got a stone or a hair in your mouth, just take it off with your hand and continue eating. As for avoiding the situation, I don't know about the hair, but you can detect stone with the spoon if the food is semi solid, I know it get's confusing if you also have bone there, but I guess you can just pick it up with your fingers and put it by the side of the plate and continue the batting. I don't use spoon or fork if I think I can manage without it, to me it all depends on the kind of a social setting I'm in. but Icecream is something that I cannot manage only with my fingers. But It becomes tough when the icecream is served on these thin paper plates - it definitely impacts my dining experience and I get so annoyed if I miss out having icecream just because it is so inaccessible. I seriously feel that eating places and eating tools have to be made more accessible, it surely deserves more importance as much as any library or a laboratory or a sports ground any day. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese Sent: 07 April 2012 11:38 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi, I have one question that is if we eat with spoones or forks then how will we notice if some unwanted substance is there in the food like stones or hair of a person which falls in the food or something like that? What i do is when I get some substance like that I notice only when it is brought near my tung. So to avoid this what should we do ? Is there some tool which comes along with the spoon or fork to understand before eating? Please sudjest something before sudjesting please sit back and think about this . Regard's, Phen On 4/6/12, shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi mohit, I am really sorry that unknowningly two empty mails were send by me. As comming to your query, when I took Oand M training in NIVH they taught me how to use spoon and fork. Being a VI we should prefer to eat by our fingers as Mr. Umesha suggested. As well as sceintific it is good to use our fingers to eat. Whenever you are eating noodles or some other food which is premitable using with spoon or fork, use two spoons or spoon and fork. When you are eating noodles insert the fork into the noodles and round the fork in 360 degree so that the noodles will stick to fork before eating touch the spoon which is in your left hand so that we can know wether there is any food material is there is are not. I trieed to explain but i do not know how far it is elivated to you. regards, Sazid.sk --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Yes I can feel the stone if it is a semi solid food because when you stir it slightly, you might feel the stone brushing against the spoon, please also be aware that there are certain exceptions like the stone might be too small to notice or it might get mixed with the food which can happen to even sighted, although the chances may not be as high as in our case. But if it is something like hair or powdered tablets or killed mosquito for instance, even if you use your hand I guess it would be too hard to detect. Which certainly forces me to think about the dining accessibility aspect in our lives, so let us be bit more vigilant and take precautions like being aware about ambience when consuming the food. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but these things might just happen -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese Sent: 07 April 2012 12:11 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! If it is a vegetarian food then what will you do? Leave the bones i don't want to know about chicken bones or anything like that i want to know what will happen if this is there in the veg foods? will you be able to feel it? If you take the case of sighted people they can see before eating but for us we can only see after bringing it to our mouth . so what is your sudjestion now regarding this? On 4/7/12, SYED IMRAN syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Yes this is also something that we need to think about. Thanks for raising it. but I bet even sighted folks can't avoid this situation completely, so if you think you got a stone or a hair in your mouth, just take it off with your hand and continue eating. As for avoiding the situation, I don't know about the hair, but you can detect stone with the spoon if the food is semi solid, I know it get's confusing if you also have bone there, but I guess you can just pick it up with your fingers and put it by the side of the plate and continue the batting. I don't use spoon or fork if I think I can manage without it, to me it all depends on the kind of a social setting I'm in. but Icecream is something that I cannot manage only with my fingers. But It becomes tough when the icecream is served on these thin paper plates - it definitely impacts my dining experience and I get so annoyed if I miss out having icecream just because it is so inaccessible. I seriously feel that eating places and eating tools have to be made more accessible, it surely deserves more importance as much as any library or a laboratory or a sports ground any day. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese Sent: 07 April 2012 11:38 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi, I have one question that is if we eat with spoones or forks then how will we notice if some unwanted substance is there in the food like stones or hair of a person which falls in the food or something like that? What i do is when I get some substance like that I notice only when it is brought near my tung. So to avoid this what should we do ? Is there some tool which comes along with the spoon or fork to understand before eating? Please sudjest something before sudjesting please sit back and think about this . Regard's, Phen On 4/6/12, shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi mohit, I am really sorry that unknowningly two empty mails were send by me. As comming to your query, when I took Oand M training in NIVH they taught me how to use spoon and fork. Being a VI we should prefer to eat by our fingers as Mr. Umesha suggested. As well as sceintific it is good to use our fingers to eat. Whenever you are eating noodles or some other food which is premitable using with spoon or fork, use two spoons or spoon and fork. When you are eating noodles insert the fork into the noodles and round the fork in 360 degree so that the noodles will stick to fork before eating touch the spoon which is in your left hand so that we can know wether there is any food material is there is are not. I trieed to explain but i do not know how far it is elivated to you. regards, Sazid.sk --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
You don't have to be sorry you didn't hurt my feelings. I think that we should tell the chefs to wash the food items properly and to check whether if there are other unwanted items in the foods. They should be carefull when they are cutting even there hair can fall into it and in that way we can get caught with these unwanted items to come into our stomach or mouth. If these unwanted items continues to be there in our food then it can lead into apendicytis. So we should be carefull with these items and our chefs should be carefull. Regard's, Phen On 4/7/12, SYED IMRAN syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I can feel the stone if it is a semi solid food because when you stir it slightly, you might feel the stone brushing against the spoon, please also be aware that there are certain exceptions like the stone might be too small to notice or it might get mixed with the food which can happen to even sighted, although the chances may not be as high as in our case. But if it is something like hair or powdered tablets or killed mosquito for instance, even if you use your hand I guess it would be too hard to detect. Which certainly forces me to think about the dining accessibility aspect in our lives, so let us be bit more vigilant and take precautions like being aware about ambience when consuming the food. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but these things might just happen -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese Sent: 07 April 2012 12:11 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! If it is a vegetarian food then what will you do? Leave the bones i don't want to know about chicken bones or anything like that i want to know what will happen if this is there in the veg foods? will you be able to feel it? If you take the case of sighted people they can see before eating but for us we can only see after bringing it to our mouth . so what is your sudjestion now regarding this? On 4/7/12, SYED IMRAN syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Yes this is also something that we need to think about. Thanks for raising it. but I bet even sighted folks can't avoid this situation completely, so if you think you got a stone or a hair in your mouth, just take it off with your hand and continue eating. As for avoiding the situation, I don't know about the hair, but you can detect stone with the spoon if the food is semi solid, I know it get's confusing if you also have bone there, but I guess you can just pick it up with your fingers and put it by the side of the plate and continue the batting. I don't use spoon or fork if I think I can manage without it, to me it all depends on the kind of a social setting I'm in. but Icecream is something that I cannot manage only with my fingers. But It becomes tough when the icecream is served on these thin paper plates - it definitely impacts my dining experience and I get so annoyed if I miss out having icecream just because it is so inaccessible. I seriously feel that eating places and eating tools have to be made more accessible, it surely deserves more importance as much as any library or a laboratory or a sports ground any day. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese Sent: 07 April 2012 11:38 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi, I have one question that is if we eat with spoones or forks then how will we notice if some unwanted substance is there in the food like stones or hair of a person which falls in the food or something like that? What i do is when I get some substance like that I notice only when it is brought near my tung. So to avoid this what should we do ? Is there some tool which comes along with the spoon or fork to understand before eating? Please sudjest something before sudjesting please sit back and think about this . Regard's, Phen On 4/6/12, shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi mohit, I am really sorry that unknowningly two empty mails were send by me. As comming to your query, when I took Oand M training in NIVH they taught me how to use spoon and fork. Being a VI we should prefer to eat by our fingers as Mr. Umesha suggested. As well as sceintific it is good to use our fingers to eat. Whenever you are eating noodles or some other food which is premitable using with spoon or fork, use two spoons or spoon and fork. When you are eating noodles insert the fork into the noodles and round the fork in 360 degree so that the noodles will stick to fork before eating touch the spoon which is in your left hand so that we can know wether there is any food material is there is are not. I trieed to explain but i do not know how far it is elivated to you.
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dear fen, let me confirm one thing, even sighted people cannot recognize stones many times before entering into mouth. some even bite them and get a hard hit on their teeth and finally shout on the cook or somebody else. only in certain cases where there is good contrast like in white rice, they can find it. in other foods, it is too difficult to find stones just by eyes. they can recognize hair as they lift the spoon or fork as it becomes more visible. so, we are not at substantial relative disadvantage and no need to worry. but it is always right to find innovative ways for their early recognition. one thing can be done for stones. just stir the food on the plate. if there is stone, it goes to the bottom due to gravity and makes a scratching sound after contacting with the plate. it is a clear indication of stone. it gives better results with metal plates. hair is very difficult to identify before mouth. only thing I hope is when you lift the spoon, there will be a bit of downward force if a part of hair is in your spoon and other end is closely stick with rest. it is difficult in some foods like noodles. to Syed, I am very happy you people are raising many apparently small but somewhat important problems of accessibility. not only you, no one can manage ice-cream with fingers. I am also very much annoyed by ice-cream served on plates. do you have any idea for them? I think only those served on cups are a bit comfortable. any idea from the list members on plate ice-cream is welcomed. Umesha - Original Message - From: Phen Varghese phenvargh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, 07 April, 2012 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! You don't have to be sorry you didn't hurt my feelings. I think that we should tell the chefs to wash the food items properly and to check whether if there are other unwanted items in the foods. They should be carefull when they are cutting even there hair can fall into it and in that way we can get caught with these unwanted items to come into our stomach or mouth. If these unwanted items continues to be there in our food then it can lead into apendicytis. So we should be carefull with these items and our chefs should be carefull. Regard's, Phen On 4/7/12, SYED IMRAN syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I can feel the stone if it is a semi solid food because when you stir it slightly, you might feel the stone brushing against the spoon, please also be aware that there are certain exceptions like the stone might be too small to notice or it might get mixed with the food which can happen to even sighted, although the chances may not be as high as in our case. But if it is something like hair or powdered tablets or killed mosquito for instance, even if you use your hand I guess it would be too hard to detect. Which certainly forces me to think about the dining accessibility aspect in our lives, so let us be bit more vigilant and take precautions like being aware about ambience when consuming the food. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but these things might just happen -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese Sent: 07 April 2012 12:11 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! If it is a vegetarian food then what will you do? Leave the bones i don't want to know about chicken bones or anything like that i want to know what will happen if this is there in the veg foods? will you be able to feel it? If you take the case of sighted people they can see before eating but for us we can only see after bringing it to our mouth . so what is your sudjestion now regarding this? On 4/7/12, SYED IMRAN syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Yes this is also something that we need to think about. Thanks for raising it. but I bet even sighted folks can't avoid this situation completely, so if you think you got a stone or a hair in your mouth, just take it off with your hand and continue eating. As for avoiding the situation, I don't know about the hair, but you can detect stone with the spoon if the food is semi solid, I know it get's confusing if you also have bone there, but I guess you can just pick it up with your fingers and put it by the side of the plate and continue the batting. I don't use spoon or fork if I think I can manage without it, to me it all depends on the kind of a social setting I'm in. but Icecream is something that I cannot manage only with my fingers. But It becomes tough when the icecream is served on these thin paper plates - it definitely impacts my dining experience and I get so annoyed if I miss out having icecream just because it is so inaccessible. I seriously feel that eating places and eating tools have to be made more accessible, it surely deserves more importance as much as any library or a laboratory
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Hi mohit, I am really sorry that unknowningly two empty mails were send by me. As comming to your query, when I took Oand M training in NIVH they taught me how to use spoon and fork. Being a VI we should prefer to eat by our fingers as Mr. Umesha suggested. As well as sceintific it is good to use our fingers to eat. Whenever you are eating noodles or some other food which is premitable using with spoon or fork, use two spoons or spoon and fork. When you are eating noodles insert the fork into the noodles and round the fork in 360 degree so that the noodles will stick to fork before eating touch the spoon which is in your left hand so that we can know wether there is any food material is there is are not. I trieed to explain but i do not know how far it is elivated to you. regards, Sazid.sk --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya, Advocate. Mobile: +91 9210616426 New Delhi
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yes this is absolutely true and god has given 2 hands and each hand 5 fingers. On 4/5/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya, Advocate. Mobile: +91 9210616426 New Delhi Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
--- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya, Advocate. Mobile: +91 9210616426 New Delhi Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
--- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in %0 Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
try writing on the top, please. - Original Message - From: shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com wrote: From: Umesha Economics umesha@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 8:02 AM Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in %0 Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya, Advocate. Mobile: +91 9210616426 New Delhi Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Hi Before you read further, let me tell you what works for one person, may not work for the other. So if you must use the fork at all, try if you can apply my technique. If it works it is a good thing. Here is what I do in social situations beforehand once I'm ready to have the meals after making me aware of a few general things like proper placement of my chair against the table, my distance from people sitting around me just to ensure that I don't splash any liquid on them or anything if at all the food just in case drops on them while I'm eating, contents of the food, whether I have to finish my meals fast, or I have enough time to enjoy my meal-- etc. . physical properties: The first thing I do before eating is to pick up the fork or spoon and feel it properly - examine it's wait, handle, design and any other physical properties that might impact my dining experience. .While eating: I just feel the food with hands to know what items are placed and where and commence eating from one direction, while I'm continuing my conversation with my friends / colleagues,. And whenever I put the fork into the food I check the depth of the food and just twirl the fork around to ensure that noodles or pasta is rightly caught up with right quantity in the fork and before I put the food in my mouth, I just slightly lift the food couple of inches high and twirl the fork around and just as much as possible ensure that the food is securely wrapped up inside the fork and then eat. . pattern: start eating food from the edges of the plate towards the center of the plate this way you can avoid spilling the food out. . when you are nearly done, just use your spoon to pile all the food on one side and continue to use the fork. . I use tissues if the food falls on my lap or anything, no need to feel embarrassed. . if I just happen to put the empty fork or more food into my mouth, I'm deeply concentrating on what my friend / colleague is saying, which can happen to anyone..lol. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant Sent: 04 April 2012 10:59 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Hi mohit, congrats to your innovative questions. in order to avoid the problem, I do not use the spoon or fork in such situations and I do not worry about people around thinking some thing bad, as eating with fingers is not bad for health or in any respect. only this illusive modernity makes these rules. so, I think it is not wrong in over ruling them as long as there is no harm. for example, to eat 'Idli', a well known south Indian breakfast, people use 2 spoons. but it is too difficult for visually impaired to eat like that. so, I do it with my fingers. yes, its even in public. I don't mind as I think if the people around me had the same problem, they would have developed the custom of eating by fingers and at that time, eating with spoon would have been rather unacceptable custom. say for example, for eating 'Dosa', another well known south Indian meal, the same people cannot use spoon or any other tool and inevitably they eat by fingers. so, I conclude, if sighted people make customs based on their conveniences, why cannot we follow them according to our conveniences? these are my personal views and you have right to differ in yours. Umesha - Original Message - From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com To: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hold the fork gentlly, while you're in confusing state. However, the empty fork situation seems dificult to avoid during some last moments of the eating affairs. On 4/4/12, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya, Advocate. Mobile: +91 9210616426 New Delhi Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork!
Why feel concerned and embarrassed about an issue like not being able to fork something on your plate? It is not that you are doing it on purpose or you have a choice of avoiding this situation. Trust me you are not the only one that can't fork something on your plate, I many times have put an empty fork in my mouth and sometimes have hurt my mouth too. It happens and I just learned to live with it, so did my friends and social network. Relax, its not the end of the world or anything remotely close. - Original Message - From: Mohit Shah Shah To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:17 AM Subject: [AI] It's all about using a fork for Mohit the Dork! Hi all, This time, my question is not as weird as all my other questions have been so far. My question is related to using a fork. So, I usually use a fork for having things like pasta, noodles, brownies, etc. However, sometimes, the thing which I'm attempting to have doesn't stick in the fork, so my fork remains empty. So, this can be a bit awkward in social situations. My question is, is there a more definitive way of getting more success with using a fork? Is there a better way to ensure that the piece which does actually stick to the fork is not too big? Please do answer this question ASAP. Controversially yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
