Fwd: Opera browser in PA i386 - cont

[Bogdan Cristea]

And it seems that Flash Player is working (at least on youtube)


 Original Message 
Subject:Opera browser in PA i386
Date:   Sat, 07 Dec 2013 21:00:28 +0100
From:   Bogdan Cristea 
To: active@kde.org 



Hi

I have downloaded Opera browser archive for i386 and it runs smoothly in
PA installed on an ExoPC tablet. The main issue seems to be that the on
screen keyboard is not triggered when needing to input some text. I am
wondering if there is a way to manually trigger the on screen keyboard
(not sure however if the text will be received by the text box in this
case). Other solution might be to try to write an extension for Opera in
order to have integration with PA. What do you think ?

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Opera browser in PA i386

[Bogdan Cristea]

Hi

I have downloaded Opera browser archive for i386 and it runs smoothly in 
PA installed on an ExoPC tablet. The main issue seems to be that the on 
screen keyboard is not triggered when needing to input some text. I am 
wondering if there is a way to manually trigger the on screen keyboard 
(not sure however if the text will be received by the text box in this 
case). Other solution might be to try to write an extension for Opera in 
order to have integration with PA. What do you think ?


regards
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Re: random idea about OBS packages

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On Tue 12 Nov 2013 04:12:41 PM CET, Marco Martin wrote:

an update on the direction i'm going.

At this point using invocation of the external tool osc it can fetch both the
proper rpm filesize and correct rpm name, buiold number included.

One problem is that right now it's based on the extension of the uploaded file
being ".desc", but apart being hacky, the branch mart/obsmanager of the server
works.

one idea was, instead of requiring a file to be uploaded is to have some data
source concept..

The database already has the concept of "externpath", so, if the user while
creating an asset from obs does instead specify a repo and a package (like
home:foo) the externpath becomes
obs://build.merproject.org/home:foo/packagename

when this happens a desc file gets created (that should probably become json,
to ensure a bit of expandibility) and it works as now in the mart/obsmanager
branch

when the publisher approves a pending request, another external osc invokation
happens automatically and it does a copypac of the package between home:foo
and kde:stable:apps, so the approval procedure would be completely web based

not sure if i explained myself clearly at all.. but, comments? ;)



The idea of submitting just a repository path and a package name is 
something I was expecting from the beginning. But you need some online 
validation mechanism in order to make sure that the user fills 
correctly these fields.

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Re: random idea about OBS packages

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On 11/11/2013 11:17 AM, Marco Martin wrote:

I was thinking about how to make the osc integration a bit better, since now
is a bit clunky (starting from the fact the input fields in the upload form
seems to be a bit confusing)

another problem that surfaced is that when there is an update in plasma active
that touches things like kdelibs, it triggers a rebuild of the other packages
as well, changing the build number, making the packageid invalid (i corrected
by hand the two assets interested)

an idea may be:
* the user only inputs the project (or not even that if we force all to be in
a single repo)
* the ackage name (again the obs package name and rpm name are the same in 99%
of the cases)
* the architecturei586,armv7hl (if we still want to be two different assets
for the two architectures)

then the descriptor file on the server is just a template, the actual
packageid should be generated by a command (possibly when the asset is
downloaded, to be really really sure is the newest one)

something like

osc list -b kde:stable:apps TabletReader|grep TabletReader

seems a good base for the job

opinions? comments?



I would go for using the package name and its version number, as defined 
by the author, e.g.

name: TabletReader
version: 3.0.2
then the number generated by the build system is added automatically.

However, I don't see how you update the package from that single repo 
when the author makes available a new version. Should the author upload 
all the files needed to build the package on OBS ?

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Re: Errors when editing an already published asset

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On 11/11/2013 10:44 AM, Marco Martin wrote:

what do you mean as in platform tag? you can assign any of the two in the tag
drag and drop thinghie (second action icon in the assets view)
I don't understand your question "what do you mean as in platform tag?". 
The platform tag I see when editing contains Vivaldi string and if I 
publish my assert exactly like this it gets rejected.

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Errors when editing an already published asset

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Hi

When I try to edit an already published asset (created from OBS) I have 
noticed that the selected platform is Vivaldi, even if previously I have 
published the asset for PA. This is an issue as assets for Vivaldi 
platform are rejected. Also, the fields for screenshots and application 
icons are empty even if previously I have filled this fields.


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Re: bodega stores - book reader

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On Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:45:24 PM CET, Marco Martin wrote:

On Monday 04 November 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:


Yes, there is some tweaking left on the PA side to make this work
properly. Working on it :)


When trying to install the book-reader, AddOns crushed everytime I tried
it. I tried to generate a bug report, but when trtying to install the


Luckily i could reproduce.

now after pulling the latest update should be fixed.
I suceeded to install and uninstall the tabletreader app some times and all
went fine.
Also fixed the issue for which "launch" opened the desktop file instead of
launching the application.
So testing of the install process with latest client pulled from zypper would
be welcome ;)

Cheers,
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I can confirm that TabletReader installs and launches from Add-Ons. 
Good work Martin

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Re: bodega stores - book reader

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On 11/04/2013 12:41 PM, Wolfgang Romey wrote:

When trying to install the book-reader, AddOns crushed everytime I tried it. I
tried to generate a bug report, but when trtying to install the debug symbols
i got ther message that not all the neccessary repos are there. Which do I
need.
I have tried yesterday to install TabletReader, but the desktop file is 
opened instead. I am not sure what happened after the update of today, 
I'll retest this evening.

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Re: Creating an asset on Bodega server

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On Fri 25 Oct 2013 10:15:53 PM CEST, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2013 21:16:44 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

On Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:16:56 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Friday 25 October 2013 21:07:50 you wrote:

On Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:07:10 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Friday 25 October 2013 20:51:08 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Hi
When I try to create a simple image asset, I get on create the error
"PartnerInvalid". When creating an App from OBS I get no error but the
asset is not created. Probably the two errors are related. Any advice ?
regards
Bogdan


are you "content creator" in the partner?


I am an approved Publisher, where should I look for "content creator"


in the people of the publisher (little action icon with the faces)

then add person, your email/login and then set the capabilities


I got it, thanks


I improved this the other day for new partners: now when you create a new
partner, you get *all* the roles associated with your account (as the
“founding” individual)



I think that more explicit error messages are necessary. For example, 
it should say explicitly what roles I need in order to create in asset 
an how

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Re: Creating an asset on Bodega server

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On Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:16:44 PM CEST, Bogdan Cristea wrote:

On Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:16:56 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Friday 25 October 2013 21:07:50 you wrote:

On Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:07:10 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Friday 25 October 2013 20:51:08 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Hi
When I try to create a simple image asset, I get on create the error
"PartnerInvalid". When creating an App from OBS I get no error but
the
asset is not created. Probably the two errors are related. Any
advice ?
regards
Bogdan


are you "content creator" in the partner?


I am an approved Publisher, where should I look for "content creator"


in the people of the publisher (little action icon with the faces)

then add person, your email/login and then set the capabilities


I got it, thanks


I have created two assets, with a picture and from OBS, but with both I 
get "Error in sending your request"

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Re: Creating an asset on Bodega server

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On Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:16:56 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Friday 25 October 2013 21:07:50 you wrote:

On Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:07:10 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Friday 25 October 2013 20:51:08 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Hi
When I try to create a simple image asset, I get on create the error
"PartnerInvalid". When creating an App from OBS I get no error but the
asset is not created. Probably the two errors are related. Any advice ?
regards
Bogdan


are you "content creator" in the partner?


I am an approved Publisher, where should I look for "content creator"


in the people of the publisher (little action icon with the faces)

then add person, your email/login and then set the capabilities


I got it, thanks
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Re: Creating an asset on Bodega server

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On Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:07:10 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Friday 25 October 2013 20:51:08 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Hi
When I try to create a simple image asset, I get on create the error
"PartnerInvalid". When creating an App from OBS I get no error but the
asset is not created. Probably the two errors are related. Any advice ?
regards
Bogdan


are you "content creator" in the partner?



I am an approved Publisher, where should I look for "content creator"
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Creating an asset on Bodega server

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Hi
When I try to create a simple image asset, I get on create the error 
"PartnerInvalid". When creating an App from OBS I get no error but the 
asset is not created. Probably the two errors are related. Any advice ?

regards
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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

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On Tue 22 Oct 2013 10:04:57 PM CEST, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

On Tuesday 22 October 2013 21:55:53 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 16:38:17 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

On Tuesday 22 October 2013 13:47:27 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

When sending a request for publishing for an image, there is still the
message, that an icon is missing. There is only the possibility to
upload
a
sreenshot, which i did, but which is not accepted as an icon.


Turning screenshots into icons is not implemented; you need to provide
an
icon.


Auto-creating icons from thumbnails was what Marco suggested in a previous
thread, wasn't it (see below)?


yes; but it only got implemented tonight (thanks to marco)


Lightning-fast Marco, as always :)


b) modify the server in such when icons are generated, if none present,
use
the screenshot and resize it icon-sized


Is it still the plan to implement that in the future? For me, this is the
way to go, because what works better as an icon for an image than a small
version of it?


yep. and for things like books we even know which screenshot to use (the
front cover).

many will still want to create their own custom icons, though, as generally
the result will usually be better.


Sure. People should have the chance to provide their own icon, with auto-
generated ones as fallback.
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Just tried again to create an asset from OBS, but still my assets list 
is empty with no error message. I am registered as Publisher. Do I need 
to activate other options ?

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Bodega server availability for creating assets

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Hi

I am still unable to create an asset from OBS in my account. When I 
press create button no error message, but my assets list is empty. When 
bodega will be available ?


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Re: Add application from mer repos to Bodega server

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On 10/10/2013 11:29 AM, Marco Martin wrote:

now the form should report an error in case something goes wrong (btw, i tried
again to upload an asset,  and it works fine here, so may depend from what
user is doing it)

another thing you can try is to not upload any image at first, just add them
after the asset has been created

btw, if you give me a pointer  of where is the package you want to publish on
obs, i'll copy it in the kde:stable:apps, the repository (to put in the same
place the apps that are in the store)

Hi

Here is the link to my repository

http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/cristeab/kde_devel_ux_latest_i586/i586/

The package file is: TabletReader-3.0.2-18.1.Nemo.i586.rpm

However, I would like to update this package, so simply copying into 
another place might be an issue since different versions might be in 
different places.


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Re: Add application from mer repos to Bodega server

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On Wed 09 Oct 2013 10:11:43 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Wednesday 09 October 2013 21:43:05 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Hi
I have just added an application from mer repositories and uploaded
several screenshots, but nothing appears under my assets tab.
regards
Bogdan


i don't see anything in the incomingassets table.
if you add one, you should see it appear in the assets page indeeded, in the
"review pending" ones
at least is what i see it happens with my user.

did you use "app from obs" or uploaded directly an rpm?
and it didn't answer with any error whatsoever?



I have used "app from obs", no error shown
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Add application from mer repos to Bodega server

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Hi
I have just added an application from mer repositories and uploaded 
several screenshots, but nothing appears under my assets tab.

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Re: new bodega server up

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On 10/08/2013 08:43 PM, Marco Martin wrote:

On Saturday 28 September 2013, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

hi everyone ...

addons.makeplaylive.com is now running an instance of the new bodega
server. it comes with a huge number of improvements across the board, the
most important of which is that we now also have a web app where you can
log in and upload, edit, etc. content.

to give a little update, i did a lot of fixes today, and now should be
possible to submit basic items correctly.
applications can be submitted via either a direct upload of the rpm or as
package name of a package already in the repository (we have an empty
repository in pa4, that will be filled with applications offered for download)

Today i completed the submission procedure of the owncloud client and (after
updating pa4 with zypper) should be available and installable on an x86 pa4
device.

rough edges are still there (and expect them) and improvements are still to be
made, but is on the right track



Hi

My account at http://manager.makeplaylive.com is accesible, but I don't 
see any way to submit an application. I have defined a partner and 
requested to become a publisher, but no change till now. Also, after 
submitting the request the link is the same, "Request". I was expecting 
to see that link changing to something more informal, e.g. "Request 
Pending". And who provides the "Producer" status ?


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Re: new bodega server up

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On 10/07/2013 06:31 PM, Wolfgang Romey wrote:

now (18.30 ) login is working. I will try to uload a few of my own images
soon. Unless Aaron says: don't do it (now)


Same here, I am able to login now. I'll try to upload my application in 
the next couple of days.

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Re: new bodega server up

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On 10/07/2013 01:17 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

On Sunday, October 6, 2013 08:48:14 crist...@gmail.com wrote:

I was expecting to have a more informative error message. Anyway, using my
addons account doesnâEUR^(TM)t work either:
  
Odd; I just logged in, I also tried an incorrect password and a non-existent

email address and did not receive any errors.

The installation was upgraded over the weekend after a private beta period
last week, perhaps it was during that time? Can you try again?


Hi

I have tried to login to this address

http://manager.makeplaylive.com/

and I get this error message with my addons account:


 Express


   /500/TypeError: Cannot read property 'id' of undefined

 * at Object.module.exports.loadMainPage
   (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/lib/index.js:27:51)
 * at BodegaManager.index
   (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/lib/bodega.js:126:15)
 * at app.get.res.render.network
   (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/routes.js:43:23)
 * at callbacks
   
(/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/router/index.js:164:37)
 * at isAuthorized
   (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/routes.js:24:9)
 * at callbacks
   
(/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/router/index.js:164:37)
 * at param
   
(/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/router/index.js:138:11)
 * at pass
   
(/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/router/index.js:145:5)
 * at Router._dispatch
   
(/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/router/index.js:173:5)
 * at Object.router
   
(/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/router/index.js:33:10)


not sure why, is there some options that I need to activate in my 
account ? Anyway, I am interested in publishing an application based on 
okular on bodega server, please let me know when this can be done.


thanks
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Re: new bodega server up

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Any news about bodega server ? When I try to create an account with my
gmail address I get an error message saying that my e-mail address is
invalid.


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Aaron J. Seigo  wrote:

> On Saturday, September 28, 2013 07:53:57 you wrote:
> > When new apps can be uploaded to bodega ?
>
> Technically they could be uploaded right now, but I’d like to wait until
> Monday/Tuesday so that we can release the documentation (which will
> prevent me
> having to answer the same questions over and over).
>
> > The link you provide gives only a
> > page with Vivaldi tablet information. No other options are available.
>
> I actually didn’t provide any links other than to a PDF file and the
> apidocs
> (which is at apidocs.makeplaylive.com).
>
> The bodega server runs on addons.makeplaylive.com:3443 and the management
> app
> is also on its own domain. Essentially, each service gets hosted on its own
> domain.
>
> The management app is live right now at manager.makeplaylive.com but I’d
> like
> to ask everyone to wait for the documentation.
>
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[Active] [Bug 324777] Found no way to enter new RSS Feed in the feed reader

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RSS Plasmoid works for me, but I had a similar issue with the ok button. It
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Picture Frame plasmoid rpm

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Hi

I have packaged for PA Picture Frame plasmoid from KDE plasma addons. 
The rpm has been tested on ExoPC tablet and is available here:


http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/cristeab/kde_devel_ux_latest_i586/

The project homepage can be found here (it can be used as example for 
packaging plasmoids for PA):


https://github.com/cristeab/picture-frame

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PA4 installed on Virtual Box

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Hi

I have just installed PA4 on Virtual Box and Windows8, but I am unable 
to connect to the network. Is there a way to do this (configuration 
parameters) ?


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Re: Plasmoid installation in PA

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Yes, the grid exists in Plasma 2, but due to screen size is less obvious,
while for small touch-screen it becomes a little too intrusive. Is there a
way to have the gris parameters changed in order to have closer grid points
or disable it completely ?


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

> On Saturday 07 September 2013 21:44:56 Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I had a look at new plasmoids installed on PA (Picture Frame). No
> > modifications are needed to be installed in PA, but when a plasmoid is
> > added to an activity it seems a little strange that the plasmoid
> > position and size are somehow limited to some discrete values, i.e. the
> > plasmoid cannot be positioned anywhere on the screen and its size cannot
> > vary to any value.
>
> That's on purpose: The Activity Screen uses a layout grid, and everything
> automatically aligns to that grid. That limits the placement and sizing
> freedom a bit, but in combination with the resource boxes and the
> imprecision
> of touchscreen interaction, Activity screens would turn into a real visual
> mess pretty fast if there was not grid.
> Btw: I've heard that Plasma 2 uses a grid layout for all workspaces (not
> sure
> if that's still true, though).
>
> > One more question. Where could I add the new plasmoids I find to work on
> > PA (e.g. picture frame) ?
>
> There is no offical way yet, but as soon as it's completely rolled out,
> Plasmoids will be made available through Add Ons. See also Aaron's Google
> Plus
> post sharing the release announcement
> (https://plus.google.com/10740696571114069/posts/ffJp9rpTMZe):
> "The real story, however, is going to be in the months after this release
> as
> we roll out the content store management app for people who would like to
> participate by offering original content (apps, artwork, books, etc,
> etc.), an
> app developer support program and focus on hardware adaptations."
>
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Plasmoid installation in PA

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Hi

I had a look at new plasmoids installed on PA (Picture Frame). No 
modifications are needed to be installed in PA, but when a plasmoid is 
added to an activity it seems a little strange that the plasmoid 
position and size are somehow limited to some discrete values, i.e. the 
plasmoid cannot be positioned anywhere on the screen and its size cannot 
vary to any value. Also, plasmoid installation went well only when the 
CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX was set to /usr, the default value (/usr/local) 
does not work.


One more question. Where could I add the new plasmoids I find to work on 
PA (e.g. picture frame) ?


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Re: Feedback to the Dot story

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On 09/05/2013 02:38 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

On 05.09.2013 13:30, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
so what do we do? wait until there are only tasks that a majority of 
random

test subjects do well on?


Do you think the tasks for the test were picked randomly? Most of the 
tasks in the test are essential for working with what sets Plasma 
Active apart from other OSes (like adding things to Activities, 
tagging stuff in Files or using SLC). It's not the first time I set up 
a usability test.



To me, this is not a "polished product", this is still an (advanced)
early adopter / developer version.


i understand you feel this way (i noted so in my earlier email, 
even). this is

not your call to make, however.


It's standard procedure in human-centered design to do a usability 
test before releasing a product. And in every company I've worked 
with, people not being able to finish important tasks (or having big 
problems along the way) results in a red light, forcing the product 
team to do another iteration before release.
I know that's not the way it works in FOSS: We release early versions 
into the public to get feedback from a wide range of people. That's 
absolutely okay, but calling it a "polished product" instead of an 
early version still does not make sense to me.
It's not my call, but it isn't yours, either. If the majority of the 
team feels that PA4 is a polished product (which may very well be the 
case), then I have to bow to that majority, of course.



And since we target early adopters
and devs, why do we call it "polished product”?


we target early adopters and devs because there are no devices that 
it comes

pre-installed on.


Yet I have heard several times things along the lines of "The people 
we target with PA4 will be fine with that", which translates to me as 
"We assume the target audience of this release to have above-average 
computer skills".


real products ship. real products are not perfect. yet somehow 
people use

them and even fall in love with them.


Release early, release often, I know. That's what all FOSS should do 
and

most do. But e.g. Simon or KTp give their - already pretty mature -
products 0.X version numbers and say they'll call them 1.0 when they
find nothing really missing anymore (that doesn't mean they cannot be
improved anymore, though).
I know this isn't about version numbers, but I've never heard David 
call


yes, it is not about version numbers.

that said ... Simon is quite mature; KTp still has a ways to go. 
regardless,
one of the hurdles KDE projects face is this perfectionism bleeding 
over into

public communication.


I consider both Simon and KTp pretty successful, despite their making 
clear that they are not "1.0" yet.


we can, and do, have all sorts of valid criticisms of the products 
produced.


for most people, that doesn’t matter one bit. and so when we go out 
and tell

people how *bad* our software is (which is exactly what your messaging
translates to in people’s minds) they just don’t use the software at 
all or if

they do they focus on the negatives we’ve  primed them for.

the result is that they do not use software that would actually work 
*just

fine* for them and even make them happy.

why? because we’ve pointed out what it does not do well in an attempt 
to over
our ass instead of highlighting what it does do well and focusing 
people on

that.


I know this list is publicly readable, but do you think what's written 
on this list directly affects public opinion? Read the quote from me 
in the article. Does this sound like pointing out how bad PA4 is to you?



I don't mean to say that we did bad work, because we didn't. We did
great work, but we still have more great work to do before we have a
"polished product". PA4 is great, but still very "rough" in a whole lot
of ways.


shall i list all the bugs i run into on a daily basis on my (not very 
old)

Android phone?

shall i share the pain of watching my brother-in-law use his brand 
new top-of-
the-line Android phone while he complains about this or that as he 
fiddles

about with it?

you are trying to live in a world of perfection that doesn’t exist, 
and that

mindset is an existential threat to the  project.


I pointed out why I would not consider PA4 a polished product. I did 
not write a blog post about PA4 being bad or anything.


I have different standards for "polished" than you. That's fine with 
me, but I don't think that means I'll have to shut up and keep my 
standard for myself.
To me it's similar with bugs: I may have annoyed you and Marco and 
possible others as well when I insisted on several bugs being fixed 
before release.
However it turns out that fixing these bugs took only a few days, 
resulting in improved quality. And it was not that bug fixing which 
delayed the release in the end. I gave my green light on august 16th. 
If I'd kept my mouth shut, those bugs would still be in there.

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On Thu 05 Sep 2013 11:47:26 AM CEST, Bogdan Cristea wrote:

On 09/05/2013 11:29 AM, Wolfgang Romey wrote:

I didn't find the widget in the Widgets section after installing
owncloud-client. Is this something that should be installed separately
or has a different name ?

I looked it up in virtualbox a moment ago and it is the widget
Synchronisation
- online.

Maybe it should get another name.

Wolfgang


I have found the plasmoid, it was there from the beginning. The icon
and/or the name should be changed to something more close to owncloud


Well, after playing with the settings module and the plasmoid I am not 
sure that it is working. Anyway, in my case it fails to synchronize a 
remote folder. Are the sources for owncloud-client available ? I am 
interested in fixing this.

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On 09/05/2013 11:29 AM, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
  

I didn't find the widget in the Widgets section after installing
owncloud-client. Is this something that should be installed separately
or has a different name ?

I looked it up in virtualbox a moment ago and it is the widget Synchronisation
- online.

Maybe it should get another name.

Wolfgang


I have found the plasmoid, it was there from the beginning. The icon 
and/or the name should be changed to something more close to owncloud

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Re: ownCloud in PA4

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On 09/05/2013 11:09 AM, Wolfgang Romey wrote:

As I wrote, there is a widget for owncloud you can add to an activity and see,
which folders you have set up for syncing. That was the first i found, before
finding owncloud in settings.

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Re: ownCloud in PA4

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On 09/04/2013 06:27 PM, Carl Symons wrote:

On Wednesday, September 04, 2013 17:17 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

On Wed 04 Sep 2013 04:43:16 PM CEST, Sebastian Kügler wrote:

On Tuesday, September 03, 2013 18:42:02 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Thank you for this tip. It seems to me that owncloud is not yet
functional. First, the client icon should be shown on the main task
bar. Searching for an application also has some issues with the on
screen keyboard, but it seems to work.

It's not a traditional application, more like a system service. The
synching is done by a daemon in the background. This daemon can be
controlled by an Active settings module, or a Plasmoid. Use those.

Using the "mirall" owncloud client will cause havoc, so choose either one.


I am able to type my owncloud parameters, but after sign in, there is a
dark frame that hides the graphical elements found on the owncloud GUI,
which makes owncloud client unusable at this current stage. This client
is the one shipped by owncloud ? Are the sources available ?

Could you show a screenshot or a photo?

I have installed all owncloud stuff and the client is available only as
KDE settings module. Should this module be displayed on Apps section ?
It is visible only when searching for it. Here is a screenshot when I
start owncloud module.

Hello Bogdan,

I was having the same result.

the full process for installing and setting up owncloud...
launch Konsole
as root, zypper in owncloud-client

launch Settings from the Application pulldown
there will be a new item
Synchronization
ownCloud Client
where you can set up ownCloud

However, I entered the remote location and my credentials in the ownCloud
application...before getting to this screen

So not sure how that part of the process goes.

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Hi

I was able to run ownclound synchronization interface from Settings 
applications and use for connecting to my local owncloud server. Folder 
synchronization works, so overall this module is usable.


I have found the following issues:
- owncloud module is accessible as stand alone application, but it does 
not work. Not sure how the owncloud module is implemented, but maybe it 
could be possible to disallow running this module as stand alone 
application.
- when filling the login in form and pressing sign in button nothing 
happens. After trying to synchronize some folder the login credentials 
are asked again and finally I am connected and able to select folders 
from my owncloud server
- the folder/file list is not correctly sorted as uppercase names appear 
first, then lower case names. It is not the way the user expects the 
folder/file list to appear


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Re: ownCloud in PA4

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On Tue 03 Sep 2013 09:42:59 PM CEST, Wolfgang Romey wrote:

I don't know, if i understand your problems.  owncloud is a widget you have to
add to an activity. After installation for me it is shown in the wigets
screeen.  When it is installed, the widget  asks for the start of the
owncloud-client.

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I have installed owncloud-client. It is shown either in App section 
when adding an item or when searching in the main taskbar. It is not 
shown in widgets section. For me it is an application.

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Re: Install TimeKeeper plasmoid on PA

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On 09/03/2013 08:43 PM, Carl Symons wrote:

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Bogdan Cristea  wrote:

Hi

I have just found that plasmoids can be installed on PA, but there is still
little support for plasmoids found on kde-apps.org. I am interested
especially in this one

http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Time+Keeper?content=159345

is there a way to install it on PA or have it included by default ?

Also, this feature should be better advertised an provide an option to
install directly from kde-apps.org plasmoids (as it is available on KDE)

regards
Bogdan

I'm delighted that you're experimenting with the cool Plasma stuff. It
would be mighty fine if the project could attract a bunch of people
who want to push the limits of Plasma Active.

By the way, TimeKeeper is one of my favorites. It just doesn't work
quite right for my desktop.

Seems like the best way to get Plasma widget installation in place is
to document it on the wiki. For example, I'm curious about what you
have discovered about installing plasmoids. With some of the
information in place, other people could jump in on moving it forward.
Depending on the core devs to do this probably means that it won't get
done any time soon.

We really need to make PA attractive to developers of all skill
levels. The wiki is the best place to gather the information necessary
to allow that to happen.

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I'll report back on the PA wiki my experiments with plasmoids.

regards
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Re: Install TimeKeeper plasmoid on PA

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On Tue 03 Sep 2013 08:48:00 PM CEST, Michael Bohlender wrote:

Hi Bogdan,

https://github.com/Joker/timekeeper  tells you how to install the
plasmoid by hand.

The addons app is supposed to be the single/central place on
PlasmaActive to get new features. Our addons app is a client for the
bodega server (which is open source compared to kde-apps.org
<http://kde-apps.org>). It also uses a different protocol. I am not
aware of plans to support GHNS (the protocol used by kde-apps.org
<http://kde-apps.org>) in PA so it is very unlikely to get an easy way
to install things form GHNS services.  However it should be possible
to install plasmoids via the addons app very soon.
How we get people to also upload their things on a/our bodega server
is another problem.

A bodega developer will probably be able to tell you more.

Cheers

Mike




On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Carl Symons mailto:carlsym...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Bogdan Cristea
mailto:crist...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have just found that plasmoids can be installed on PA, but
there is still
> little support for plasmoids found on kde-apps.org
<http://kde-apps.org>. I am interested
> especially in this one
>
> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Time+Keeper?content=159345
>
> is there a way to install it on PA or have it included by default ?
>
> Also, this feature should be better advertised an provide an
option to
> install directly from kde-apps.org <http://kde-apps.org>
plasmoids (as it is available on KDE)
>
> regards
> Bogdan

I'm delighted that you're experimenting with the cool Plasma stuff. It
would be mighty fine if the project could attract a bunch of people
who want to push the limits of Plasma Active.

By the way, TimeKeeper is one of my favorites. It just doesn't work
quite right for my desktop.

Seems like the best way to get Plasma widget installation in place is
to document it on the wiki. For example, I'm curious about what you
have discovered about installing plasmoids. With some of the
information in place, other people could jump in on moving it forward.
Depending on the core devs to do this probably means that it won't get
done any time soon.

We really need to make PA attractive to developers of all skill
levels. The wiki is the best place to gather the information necessary
to allow that to happen.

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Hi

This is the approach I have used, since that plasmoid is written in 
QML/Javascript using only plasmapkg with the *.plasmoid file is enough, 
but there are still some dependences missing. I was not aware about the 
issues around kde-apps.org, but it seems to be also the server used by 
KDE desktop when trying to install plasmoids from the Internet. I find 
a little strange for PA not to follow the same approach as KDE.


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Hi

I have just found that plasmoids can be installed on PA, but there is 
still little support for plasmoids found on kde-apps.org. I am 
interested especially in this one


http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Time+Keeper?content=159345

is there a way to install it on PA or have it included by default ?

Also, this feature should be better advertised an provide an option to 
install directly from kde-apps.org plasmoids (as it is available on KDE)


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Re: ownCloud in PA4

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On Tue 03 Sep 2013 06:17:51 PM CEST, Carl Symons wrote:

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Bogdan Cristea  wrote:

On Tue 03 Sep 2013 05:17:54 PM CEST, c...@vaultechnology.com wrote:


On 2013-09-03 05:15, Sebastian Kügler wrote:


On Tuesday, September 03, 2013 13:37:49 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:


On 03.09.2013 12:39, Sebastian Kügler wrote:

On Sunday, September 01, 2013 20:40:42 Wolfgang Romey wrote:

What has to be done to support ownCloud sync in PA4?


It has to be put into the announcement. The client is ready and

works.

It does? Dude why didn't you tell us?  I thought it was still in a
"basically works, but there is still work to do" kind of state.
Is it already in the repos? ownCloud for PA is very important, we must
not miss this is in the announcement!



I did, it worked for PA3, I told people here, and the conclusion was
that it's
a nice add-on feature, but nothing too central. I didn't feel like
pushing it,
I just don't like vanity.

There are reports of people who are running it without problems for
months,
and it's running on my laptop for months as well, stable.

The main problem with it, technically, is that it doesn't warn
against self-
signed ssl certificates. That would probably needs two or three days
of work.

In the repos, just install owncloud-client (or maybe mirall client, or
somesuch, and you get a nicely integrated PA sync client.

Cheers,



I agree with Thomas...ownCloud in PA4 is important. I will add it to
the announcement if it's working well for others.

However, I'm having some difficulties with it on ExoPC. I can do the
sign-in. Then the instructions are to click "Finish" to set up
synching locations. But there's no obvious Finish to click and all the
text is overwritten. Installed from scratch with the latest image from
notmart. Any suggestions?

Is owncloud working for other people on the ExoPC?

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Hi

I am having issues too with owncloud client. How have you started the client
? From command line, when I type owncloud, only owncloudsyncd is available,
there is no owncloud-client.

regards
Bogdan



 From the launch page.

Pull down the top section and enter owncloud in the search box. It
doesn't show up for me in the display of available apps.

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Hi

Thank you for this tip. It seems to me that owncloud is not yet 
functional. First, the client icon should be shown on the main task 
bar. Searching for an application also has some issues with the on 
screen keyboard, but it seems to work.
I am able to type my owncloud parameters, but after sign in, there is a 
dark frame that hides the graphical elements found on the owncloud GUI, 
which makes owncloud client unusable at this current stage. This client 
is the one shipped by owncloud ? Are the sources available ?


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[Active] [Bug 324467] New: When pulling down the taskbar, the tasks already started on the toolbar are above the onscreen keyboard

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324467

Bug ID: 324467
   Summary: When pulling down the taskbar, the tasks already
started on the toolbar are above the onscreen keyboard
Classification: Unclassified
   Product: Active
   Version: PA 4
  Platform: Meego/Harmattan
OS: Linux
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: NOR
 Component: Keyboard
  Assignee: active@kde.org
  Reporter: crist...@gmail.com

The icons of the tasks already started are shown above the onscreen keyboard
when trying to search something on the main task bar.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Start two or more tasks (e.g. Browser and Terminal)
2. Pull down the main taskbar and select the search box
3. On screen keyboard is shown
Actual Results:  
the icons of the already started tasks are shown above the keyboard, making
impossible to type

Expected Results:  
the on screen keyboard should be shown above all items currently found on the
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Re: PA4 stable issues

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On 09/03/2013 05:35 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

On 03.09.2013 16:35, Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Hi

Eventually I have been able to install PA4 stable image
(plasma-active-i586-stable-2013-08-29.iso), the development image
installs but does not boot. It seems to me that there are different
kernel command line arguments.

However, while the general look is clean and stable, I have find the
following issues:

- Active Okular: there is still an issue when changing pages (different
page width)


Yes, that's a rather ugly bug, but wasn't deemed a release blocker. I 
hope somebody will find a fix for it during the next dev cycle.



- Add-Ons: when one selects an item from the right-most list, the view
should automatically scroll to the left in order to show the right-most
panel (which allows to download and view the book)


Indeed it should. I hadn't noticed that bug. Could you file a bug 
report, please? Probably not a release blocker either, though, since 
you can scroll manually.



- owncloud client can be installed, but I was unable to start the
client. Not sure how this client works, but I was expecting to see an
icon on the main panel that allows to display a GUI.


Others reported that they could use the client. Don't know what went 
wrong on your system...



I am also wondering what is the status of the Application Store for PA ?
Are there plans to provide something similar to KDEs Install Widgets
interface from kdeapps.org (and have a PA-dedicated section there) ?


According to Marco, the current Add Ons store should theoretically be 
able to handle applications. That category just has not been 
introduced yet. I feel a bit uneasy that we haven't had the chance to 
test whether it really works before release, but even if it doesn't we 
can still push an update to the stable repos once apps are available 
server-side.


Cheers,
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Hi

I am interested in this feature of providing PA applications. How the 
applications can be made available server side ? Currently I have setup 
a repository on https://build.merproject.org/ and I add with zypper this 
repo in order to install my application (TabletReader). For Active 
Okular I do believe that in the current form is difficult to use as a 
reader on PA.


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Re: ownCloud in PA4

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On Tue 03 Sep 2013 05:17:54 PM CEST, c...@vaultechnology.com wrote:

On 2013-09-03 05:15, Sebastian Kügler wrote:

On Tuesday, September 03, 2013 13:37:49 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

On 03.09.2013 12:39, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Sunday, September 01, 2013 20:40:42 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
>> What has to be done to support ownCloud sync in PA4?
>
> It has to be put into the announcement. The client is ready and
works.

It does? Dude why didn't you tell us?  I thought it was still in a
"basically works, but there is still work to do" kind of state.
Is it already in the repos? ownCloud for PA is very important, we must
not miss this is in the announcement!


I did, it worked for PA3, I told people here, and the conclusion was
that it's
a nice add-on feature, but nothing too central. I didn't feel like
pushing it,
I just don't like vanity.

There are reports of people who are running it without problems for
months,
and it's running on my laptop for months as well, stable.

The main problem with it, technically, is that it doesn't warn
against self-
signed ssl certificates. That would probably needs two or three days
of work.

In the repos, just install owncloud-client (or maybe mirall client, or
somesuch, and you get a nicely integrated PA sync client.

Cheers,


I agree with Thomas...ownCloud in PA4 is important. I will add it to
the announcement if it's working well for others.

However, I'm having some difficulties with it on ExoPC. I can do the
sign-in. Then the instructions are to click "Finish" to set up
synching locations. But there's no obvious Finish to click and all the
text is overwritten. Installed from scratch with the latest image from
notmart. Any suggestions?

Is owncloud working for other people on the ExoPC?

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Hi

I am having issues too with owncloud client. How have you started the 
client ? From command line, when I type owncloud, only owncloudsyncd is 
available, there is no owncloud-client.


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[Active] [Bug 324464] New: Add-Ons don't slide to the left when an item is selected from the right-most vertical list

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324464

Bug ID: 324464
   Summary: Add-Ons don't slide to the left when an item is
selected from the right-most vertical list
Classification: Unclassified
   Product: Active
   Version: PA 4
  Platform: Meego/Harmattan
OS: Linux
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: NOR
 Component: Applications
  Assignee: active@kde.org
  Reporter: crist...@gmail.com

When one selects an item from the right-most list, the view
should automatically scroll to the left in order to show the right-most
panel (which allows to download and view the book) 

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. start Add Ons application (connect using an account)
2. select Books from the left vertical list, then Agriculture from the second
list
3. select an item from the third list
Actual Results:  
the item from the third list is selected, but the used needs to swipe left in
order to see the fourth pannel (the one with "Download" button)

Expected Results:  
the view should slide automatically after an item was selected from the right
most list

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PA4 stable issues

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Hi

Eventually I have been able to install PA4 stable image 
(plasma-active-i586-stable-2013-08-29.iso), the development image 
installs but does not boot. It seems to me that there are different 
kernel command line arguments.


However, while the general look is clean and stable, I have find the 
following issues:


- Active Okular: there is still an issue when changing pages (different 
page width)
- Add-Ons: when one selects an item from the right-most list, the view 
should automatically scroll to the left in order to show the right-most 
panel (which allows to download and view the book)
- owncloud client can be installed, but I was unable to start the 
client. Not sure how this client works, but I was expecting to see an 
icon on the main panel that allows to display a GUI.


I am also wondering what is the status of the Application Store for PA ? 
Are there plans to provide something similar to KDEs Install Widgets 
interface from kdeapps.org (and have a PA-dedicated section there) ?


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Re: PA4 lastest stable image

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On Tue 03 Sep 2013 03:13:49 PM CEST, Marco Martin wrote:

On Tuesday 03 September 2013, Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Hi

Where can I find the latest stable image of PA4 ? I have looked on PA4,
but I didn't find a link pointing to the latest PA iso.



http://makeplaylive.com/~notmart/

https://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/wetab-exopc/tablet/mer/devel/weekly/



Thank you for the quick reply. For the PA site admins: these links 
should be immediately accessible from http://plasma-active.org/, 
instead of diving into Wiki

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PA4 lastest stable image

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Hi

Where can I find the latest stable image of PA4 ? I have looked on PA4, 
but I didn't find a link pointing to the latest PA iso.


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Re: Reinstallation and saving the home directory

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On 09/01/2013 08:40 PM, Wolfgang Romey wrote:

Actually we had planned official support for ownCloud sync for PA4, but time
and manpower constraints didn't allow us to do it in time. It's still on
our to do list, though.

What has to be done to support ownCloud sync in PA4?

Cheers

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Reditr or similar application availability on PA

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Hi
It seems that RPMs provided on reditr site (for reading content from 
reddit.com) cannot be installed on PA due to missing dependencies. Is 
there something similar or is there some interest for providing such 
news reader ?

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On screen keyboard no longer working after update

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After a zypper dup today the onscreen keyboard no longer appears when I 
need to type something in an edit box (e.g. kwallet password). Any ideas 
how to fix this ?

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Re: wiki cleanup: Development

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On 08/20/2013 07:56 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

On Sunday 18 August 2013 23:06:43 Bogdan Cristea wrote:

Hi

I am unable to modify PA wiki with my kde account.

You have an Identity account and yet you cannot edit community.kde.org? That
sounds weird. Have you clicked "OpenID / Identity login" and then Identity?

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Hi

I have used my Google account to login and change PA wiki. The section I 
have added can be found here


http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development#Setting_up_a_Development_Environment

Please review and provide feedback if possible

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Re: wiki cleanup: Development

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On Fri 16 Aug 2013 07:34:30 PM CEST, Michael Bohlender wrote:

http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development

needs some work.

http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development#Plasma_SDK:_Plasmate:
Could someone using openSuse add the latest information about how to
install plasmate to the plasmate section? I removed the old info about
adding sebas personal repository for 11.4 because that looked outdated
to me.

http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development#Plasma_Active_Core_Development:

the part about contour seems to be outdated. what is the current state
of contour? could someone with knowledge edit this part or provide me
with enough information so I can do it?

http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development#Integration_Workflow

What is the state of the openSuse integration workflow?
Is this still happening?

I will update the meego part and make it about mer.
Do we still have automated devel images form basyskom ?

http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development#Release_Management
Do we  keep the "two month after KDE SC release plan?
With PA4 obviously not but what about the future?
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Hi

I am unable to modify PA wiki with my kde account. Could someone put on 
the wiki the article I have wrote on "Setting up an AP development 
environment for your application" ? It could be put on 
"Plasma/Active/Development" page 
(http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development) as section 1.2


thanks
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Setting up an AP development environment for your application

The recommended approach for application development is to use a PC with a 
Linux distribution (e.g. openSUSE). If needed, clone and compile the required 
PA libraries, notably Active Quick, on your platform. However, this step is not 
mandatory as long as the application interface is written in standard QML. As 
general rules please use cmake as compilation management system and QML for 
your graphical user interface. See PA Apps Recommendations and Guidelines 
(http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Apps) for further details.

Once your application is ready for testing, please use the latest PA iso on a 
supported device (e.g. ExoPC). Enable the development repository on your device 
and type

zypper refresh
zypper dup

in order to update your PA installation. Make sure that your application 
compiles and runs on PA. 

There are a number of limitations on PA, for example there is no full screen 
mode for the application as the task bar should be always displayed in case the 
application misbehaves. These limitations are not always documented, so please 
test carrefully your application. If needed, install synergy 
(http://synergy-foss.org/) in order to have keyboard and mouse support on your 
tablet. However, check carefully how your application is adapted to touch 
screens as this is the main target for PA. Using a virtual machine to test your 
application is not recommended as full touch screen support is not (yet) 
available.

Once you have tested your application, you can prepare it for deployment by 
setting up your repository on Mer Project Open Build Service 
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Re: PA4

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Le 7/23/2013 9:33 PM, Marco Martin a écrit :


So, little update:

I built an image of kde:ux:stable (pa4) against the current mer 
release, instead the old one that was used, and now installs correctly 
to the ExoPc :)


is not that easy since i had to rewrite nemo-mobile-sesison, that in 
turn needs nemo:mw:current, the userspace systemd session, so the 
kickstart has to be a bit convoluted.


an image should be
http://makeplaylive.com/~notmart/plasma-active-i586.iso 


(didn't try that file exactly)

so the things to be doen to do a release (at least on x86) are:
* build on a fixed mer release (that now is the current)
* use nemo:mw:devel (should need a fixed nemo release as well)
* put the redone nemo-mobile-session in kde:ux:stable,testing and devel
* adapt the kickstarts to new repos

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ARM devices are not yet supported in AP4 ? I have seen that compiling an 
app on mer build (https://build.merproject.org/) for other architectures 
than x86 does not seem to work


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Re: PA4 for a ExoPC

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Try a version recent enough

On 04.07.2013 19:50, Baltasar Ortega wrote:

Previous version¿? PA3 or another from 24 of may?
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I remember having some issues with some of ISOs provided. You
might try a previous version, enable development repository and do
an update: zypper dup


On 07/04/2013 07:35 PM, Baltasar Ortega wrote:

Hello:
I need help, please.
I have a ExoPC.
I download and install
basyskom-plasma-active-four-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-release-rc.iso
from

https://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/wetab-exopc/tablet/mer/testing/
of 3oth of june.
The installation is OK, but I do'nt see some icons and some
graphics elements, like the background of the icon's grups are
transparents.
Is normal? Is OK? Can I found a better iso?
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Re: PA4 for a ExoPC

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I remember having some issues with some of ISOs provided. You might try 
a previous version, enable development repository and do an update: 
zypper dup


On 07/04/2013 07:35 PM, Baltasar Ortega wrote:

Hello:
I need help, please.
I have a ExoPC.
I download and install 
basyskom-plasma-active-four-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-release-rc.iso from 
https://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/wetab-exopc/tablet/mer/testing/ 
of 3oth of june.
The installation is OK, but I do'nt see some  icons and some graphics 
elements, like the background of the icon's grups are transparents.

Is normal? Is OK? Can I found a better iso?
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Download files from owncloud using the web browser

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Hi

I am able to access owncloud web interface from AP and to browse through
the files, however I cannot download a specific file, the browser tries to
download instead a php file. Should this be considered a bug of AP browser ?

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My application builds only on kde_devel_ux_latest_i586 (armv7l, i586, x86_64)

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Hi

My application builds successfully only on the above repository, while the 
other two repositories based on kde_deve_ux (kde_devel_ux_latest_armv7hl 
(armv7l, i586, x86_64), kde_devel_ux_latest_armv7l (armv7l, i586, x86_64)) 
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Re: TabletReader v3.0 RPM for Active Plasma available

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On Sunday 12 May 2013 16:31:58 you wrote:


I'd like to test your e-book reader on Nexus 7 with Plasma Active. However 
it needs armv7hl packages. Do you plan to build them? They aren't 
available in your repo yet. Also, do you plan to implement rotation in the 
reader itself? It's one of the features that's strongly missing in the mobile 
okular. Paired with the lack of screen rotation in PlasmaActive itself it 
forces landscape only mode for reading, which is not optimal. I tried to 
install FBreader from the Nemo repos, but it lacks rotation as well (even 
though desktop FBreader offers rotation capability).


Hi

For building on armv7hl I need to discuss with other developers, I have 
added this platform to my project, but for some reason the build fails.
Rotation is indeed a must have feature for the next version :)


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TabletReader v3.0 RPM for Active Plasma available

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All

TabletReader v3.0 can be installed on Active Plasma from my 
merproject.org repository.
Just add the repository using
zypper ar 
http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/cristeab/kde_devel_ux_latest_i586/ 
cristeab
then install TabletReader with
zypper in TabletReader

This represents an experimental project and I am trying to support several 
platforms (currently Active Plasma and Windows, but in the future Android 
and iOS). For further information see: 
https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/edu/ebookreader

I'll start also to contribute to Active Okular once my time allows. Any 
feedback and contributions are welcome.

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AP screen shots from ExoPc

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Re: Application packaging and distribution for AP

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On Saturday 11 May 2013 13:19:23 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Saturday 11 May 2013, Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I would like to make available my own ebook reader as RPM for AP (I know
> > that okular active is the default e-book reader). Not sure if this has
> > been already asked, but I would like to know what is the recommended way
> > to build and make available my own RPM for the AP community ?
> 
> https://build.merproject.org
> 
> starting by making it work in an home project (building against
> kde:devel:ux) then when is ready is probably time to do a new repository
> for applications
> 
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Hi

I am using okular core library as backend, but when I try to add in merproject 
okular as a branch project from kde:devel:ux I get a lot of unresolvable 
errors:

nothing provides pkgconfig(exiv2), nothing provides pkgconfig(qca2), etc.

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Re: Application packaging and distribution for AP

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On Saturday 11 May 2013 13:19:23 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Saturday 11 May 2013, Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I would like to make available my own ebook reader as RPM for AP (I know
> > that okular active is the default e-book reader). Not sure if this has
> > been already asked, but I would like to know what is the recommended way
> > to build and make available my own RPM for the AP community ?
> 
> https://build.merproject.org
> 
> starting by making it work in an home project (building against
> kde:devel:ux) then when is ready is probably time to do a new repository
> for applications
> 
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Hi

I have been able to create an account on build.merproject.org, but I get an 
error message after filling the form with the user name and password, but the 
account is created.

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Application packaging and distribution for AP

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Hi

I would like to make available my own ebook reader as RPM for AP (I know that 
okular active is the default e-book reader). Not sure if this has been already 
asked, but I would like to know what is the recommended way to build and make 
available my own RPM for the AP community ?

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Qt update in AP from 4.8.3 to 4.8.4

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Hi

Are there any chances to have an update of Qt framework from 4.8.3 (as it is 
now in AP) to 4.8.4 (for example used by openSUSE 12.3) ? I have noticed a 
different behavior when listing the content of a folder with 

QDir directory = QDir(currentDir_, "*.*", QDir::Name | QDir::IgnoreCase | 
QDir::LocaleAware);

Folder names beginning by a parentheses are displayed first in the list in 
4.8.3 while in 4.8.4 the parentheses is ignored and the first letter is 
considered.

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Re: AP - full screen mode

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On Tuesday 09 April 2013 16:32:24 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 April 2013, Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> > I don't consider yet multiple screens, the reason for using this is that
> > showFullScreen() alone does not work on AP.
> 
> i would like fullscreen windows working correctly, but apart from that, an
> application should never ever worry about its geometry, it it does, there is
> something wrong

Thanks for clarifying this issue, but on AP there seems to be an issue with 
showFullScreen() as on openSUSE 12.3 there is no need to use setGeometry() for 
full screen.

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Re: AP - full screen mode

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I don't consider yet multiple screens, the reason for using this is that
showFullScreen() alone does not work on AP.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Martin Graesslin  wrote:

> On Tuesday 09 April 2013 15:54:42 you wrote:
> > Actually I am using first
> >
> > showFullScreen()
> >
> > before setting the geometry, otherwise on AP my window is wrongly
> resized.
> it still sounds quite wrong. Don't set geometries manually unless you
> really
> have to. The code you pasted would break on a desktop for example as it
> doesn't handle multiple screens. In general we just don't like that (and
> that's one of the reasons why I just look forward to Wayland).
>
> Cheers
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> >
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Martin Graesslin 
> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 09 April 2013 15:30:56 Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> > > > For full screen mode currently I use
> > > >
> > > > QRect rect(0, 0, QApplication::desktop()->width(),
> > >
> > > QApplication::desktop()-
> > >
> > > > >height());
> > > >
> > > > setGeometry(rect);
> > >
> > > this is not a way to set a window to fullscreen. How should the window
> > > manager
> > > know that this is fullscreen? It sees such a geometry and says: wow
> that's
> > > wrong, it would overlap with the panel. That's obviously not what the
> > > application wants and so I give it the area without the panel.
> > >
> > > If you want to set a window to fullscreen use the proper EWMH hint. I'm
> > > not
> > > sure whether Qt provides a hint for it, but KWindowSystem does.
> > >
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Re: AP - full screen mode

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Actually I am using first

showFullScreen()

before setting the geometry, otherwise on AP my window is wrongly resized.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Martin Graesslin  wrote:

> On Tuesday 09 April 2013 15:30:56 Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> > For full screen mode currently I use
> >
> > QRect rect(0, 0, QApplication::desktop()->width(),
> QApplication::desktop()-
> >
> > >height());
> >
> > setGeometry(rect);
> this is not a way to set a window to fullscreen. How should the window
> manager
> know that this is fullscreen? It sees such a geometry and says: wow that's
> wrong, it would overlap with the panel. That's obviously not what the
> application wants and so I give it the area without the panel.
>
> If you want to set a window to fullscreen use the proper EWMH hint. I'm not
> sure whether Qt provides a hint for it, but KWindowSystem does.
>
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Re: AP - full screen mode

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On Tuesday 09 April 2013 15:39:46 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> we are currently preventing full screen mode because if a (legacy) 
> application does not provide a way to exit full screen mode without 
> using the keyboard, we're stuck with no way to close the application. 
> This has happened e.g. with Bangarang.
> We are planning to re-allow full screen mode once we are sure that no 
> application running on PA uses full screen without a way to return to 
> windowed using the touch screen.

ok, in this case I keep my implementation hoping for this future feature in AP 
:). 

I do believe that a full screen might be needed as the main panel occupies 
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Re: AP - full screen mode

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On Tuesday 09 April 2013 15:36:23 Marco Martin wrote:
> full screen mode is not supported yet, because on an application
> misbehaving  it can lock out the entire device.
> what would be needed is a kwin extension that offers some gesture to exit
> from  fullscreen

Allright, it's a good point. In my case I am actually using my own toolbar 
with a full screen button. I should disable this on AP, but I am wondering if 
from Qt I can find a portable way to detect when running on AP.

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AP - full screen mode

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On Tuesday 09 April 2013 00:41:44 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday, April 8, 2013 20:12:41 Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> > I would like to reuse the background image of the AP main toolbar in my
> > own
> > application (for a toolbar that should appear just below the main
> > toolbar).
> > Is there a way to obtain this image or something similar ?
> 
> it's the widgets/panel-background svg from the Plasma theme.
> 
> Svg("widgets/panel-background") should do the trick.

Hi

I am trying to force my application in full screen mode, but it seems that the 
main panel is always shown while my application window is below the main 
panel. Is there a way to force an application window to be in full screen mode 
without the main panel ?

For full screen mode currently I use

QRect rect(0, 0, QApplication::desktop()->width(), QApplication::desktop()-
>height());
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AP main toolbar image

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Hi

I would like to reuse the background image of the AP main toolbar in my own 
application (for a toolbar that should appear just below the main toolbar). Is 
there a way to obtain this image or something similar ?

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git availability in AP repos

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Hi

Is there a way to install git on AP from some repository. It would be nice to 
have at least this package available in the default repos (together maybe with 
tmux, synergy, etc.)

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Re: new image

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After several trials PA installs on my exopc tablet. The improvements are
visible. Thanks for the good work.


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 March 2013 14:29:21 Marco Martin wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > this image finally comes from the new repos:
> >
> >
> https://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/wetab-exopc/tablet/mer/d
> >
> evel/weekly/basyskom-plasma-active-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-devel-130326-1124.
> > iso
> >
> > happy testing
>
> Wow, the new repos are _fast_! :) I didn't believe my eyes when doing the
> first
> update from the new image, packages came in _flying_!
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Re: new image

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On Tuesday 26 March 2013 14:29:21 Marco Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
> this image finally comes from the new repos:
> 
> https://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/wetab-exopc/tablet/mer/d
> evel/weekly/basyskom-plasma-active-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-devel-130326-1124.
> iso
> 
> happy testing

Hi
  I have just installed it on my exopc tablet. At reboot AP does not start. 
This one works: basyskom-plasma-active-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-
devel-121104-2007.iso

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Active Media Center and Active Plasma

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Hi

Just seen today a post about the first release of Active Media Center. What is 
the relationship with AP ? It looks like a lot of the functionality is 
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Active Okular (was Re: Active Plasma crashes after zypper dup)

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On Sunday 03 March 2013 20:52:21 you wrote:
> On Sunday 03 March 2013 20:37:33 you wrote:
> > Just an update: the devel image from 1st March 2013 works on my exopc.
> > 
> > In Active Okular, when switching pages, the page width is not always the
> > same, sometimes I see below the previous page. Is this a desired effect ?
> > I
> > find this to be rather disturbing.
> 
> This is an open bug, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310371
> 
> > Also, is there a way to choose page zoom
> > "fit width" ?
> 
> Nope, there isn't yet. It would be a nice feature, though I currently don't
> have an idea where it would be placed in the UI. It's nice that Okular
> Active doesn't have any "chrome" and I'd like it to stay that way. If we
> find a good way to access the function and somebody would be willing to
> implement it, that would be great :)

Hi Thomas

I am willing to contribute to Active Okular. As you might remember, I have my 
own version of an e-book reader. Is there an official way to submit 
applications 
to AP ? How about the status of qt5 ? AP uses rather qt5 than qt4 for 
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Just an update: the devel image from 1st March 2013 works on my exopc.

In Active Okular, when switching pages, the page width is not always the
same, sometimes I see below the previous page. Is this a desired effect ? I
find this to be rather disturbing. Also, is there a way to choose page zoom
"fit width" ?


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Bogdan Cristea  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have installed first the latest devel image
>
> basyskom-plasma-active-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-devel-130224-2046.iso
>
> but after installation it does not boot on my exopc tablet. With the
> stable version
>
> basyskom-plasma-active-three-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-release.iso
>
> I have a working system, but I cannot update the entire distribution. I
> would like to have at least a recent Active Plasma distribution in
>  order to start testing and developing. Are there any other options for
> exopc ?
>
> regards
> Bogdan
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>> On 26.02.2013 23:08, Bogdan Cristea wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have installed AP from the stable release, then I have done a zypper
>>> dup,
>>> but after reboot AP keeps crashing. I am using a exopc tablet. Are the
>>> public
>>> repos not stable ? What is the proper way to install AP with the latest
>>> updates ?
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> if you want to get the latest updates, you should install the Devel image.
>> The stable repos should actually be stable, so that's a problem. I
>> suspect that the crash is caused by Mer updates, so it looks like we'll
>> have to keep a closer eye on which Mer version gets into our stable repos.
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Re: Active Plasma crashes after zypper dup

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Hi

I have installed first the latest devel image

basyskom-plasma-active-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-devel-130224-2046.iso

but after installation it does not boot on my exopc tablet. With the stable
version

basyskom-plasma-active-three-wetab-exopc-tablet-mer-release.iso

I have a working system, but I cannot update the entire distribution. I
would like to have at least a recent Active Plasma distribution in
 order to start testing and developing. Are there any other options for
exopc ?

regards
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> On 26.02.2013 23:08, Bogdan Cristea wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have installed AP from the stable release, then I have done a zypper
>> dup,
>> but after reboot AP keeps crashing. I am using a exopc tablet. Are the
>> public
>> repos not stable ? What is the proper way to install AP with the latest
>> updates ?
>>
>
> Hi,
> if you want to get the latest updates, you should install the Devel image.
> The stable repos should actually be stable, so that's a problem. I suspect
> that the crash is caused by Mer updates, so it looks like we'll have to
> keep a closer eye on which Mer version gets into our stable repos.
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Active Plasma crashes after zypper dup

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Hi

I have installed AP from the stable release, then I have done a zypper dup, 
but after reboot AP keeps crashing. I am using a exopc tablet. Are the public 
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Re: Plasma Active Infos

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On Wednesday 26 December 2012 23:23:39 Mathieu Calvo wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,
 
Padways is a french company that develops ambient intelligence systems for 
house livings and industry. These systems uses technologies as touchscreen, 
nfc, sensors, actuators,...
 
We have designed our own hardware based on ARM core, we use Android OS most of 
the time and also work on our own embedded linux kernel, from an Angstrom one.
 
But we just took knowledge of the Plasma Active project, we find that it looks 
very fine and would like to know more about it, in order to use it as an 
alternative of Android for our new customers.
 
Could you tell me if the kernel is an open source one so that we could 
customize it for our hardware ? If yes do you provide the source for ARM based 
devices, as BeagleBone for example ?
 
For Linux HMI programs we use Qt/C++ to develop them, I guess that this would 
also be possible for applications of Plasma Active interfaces ?
 
I wish you good christmas holidays !
Hi

Not sure if anyone has answered to this thread. I am not very familiar with 
the development around AP, you could have a look on AP site http://plasma-
active.org/. There are also a number of companies involved that also provide 
periodic builds, so you might contact them for the available platforms.
For the GUI Qt/QML is the development framework, but QML seems to be the 
preferred way to build GUIs. Please also follow the discussions on freenode 
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Re: [Okular-devel] Improving the book reading experience with KDE tech

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On Sunday 23 December 2012 15:29:24 Inge Wallin wrote:
> Thanks a lot. That will help.  
> 
> I was thinking of experimenting with a qwebkit based generator instead of
> the  current qtextdocument based one. Another alternative is to use the
> more advanced text layout of the calligra text engine which is also based
> on qtextdocument but extends it considerably.

This approach of rendering epub using qwebkit would be beneficial for chm 
documents too. Currently okular renders them as images so that all embedded 
links are frozen (not clickable). kchmviewer uses a different approach that 
works much better for chm docs. I am interested in this topic and willing to 
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Re: Android Apps (Re: "Big picture" design one release cycle ahead?)

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On Sunday 28 October 2012 18:09:11 Clemens Toennies wrote:
> Is there anyone in KDE who knows how such a compatibilty layer could be 
> done and capable of doing the work?
> I could imagine Blue Systems to sponsor this specific project if there 
> is any volunteer with a sound plan.

That could be put on the KDE wish list :)
The guys from KDE for Windows group might have some ideas.
Also, Digia (who owns Qt) has plans to port Qt to Android, thus making Qt a 
viable option to write Android apps, which probably will be much more easier 
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Re: sum up of yesterday IRC meeting

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On Friday 26 October 2012 10:31:29 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> I'm asking myself what the benefit of that would be as well. Sure some
> users  prefer one animation slightly over the other, but I don't see that
> as idiosyncratic enough to warrant a config option, to be honest. Going
> with an animation that most users like and nobody absolutely hates should
> be enough here.

That is rather a matter of taste and user preferences. There is indeed an 
average user taste wich should be enough for now, but in a long run providing 
several options (not only for user animation) should be a better approach.

> >> Not sure how well works the app store, hopefully I will put there
> >>soon my>>
> >> own version of the e-book reader
> 
> I don't think developing two different readers in parallel is the most
> efficient  use of our manpower. Personally I'd prefer if everyone
> interested in ebook/PDF reader development in PA joined forces to create
> the best possible reader.

Agree that given the current state of the AP development is better to join 
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Re: sum up of yesterday IRC meeting

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On Thursday 25 October 2012 11:55:57 Marco Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
> those i thnk are the most important points discussed (Thomas should come
> with a bit more complete notes):
> 
> * release cycle and development cycle beocome two distinct things
> * start with always releasable: no crap in master, feature branches, first
> they will go in integration branch, then the integrator (aaron?) will give
> green flag for merging in master
> * there will be continuous integration that keeps the integration branch up
> to date and pushes on obs
> * releases synced with SC (or a bit after?)
> * there will still be freeze a month before release, alongside a beta image
> 
> * feature development: pa4 will be mostly fixes/finishes to current stuff:
> other people are welcome to work on new applications, the current team
> however won't
> 
> * keyboard: it has some bugs fixable with the current qml plugin
> architecture, for some architectural limitations we'll have to wait maliit
> 1.0, that will be qt5 only (fixable: resizing, input blocking, some new
> keys) (non fixable: hints on what keys to have, autocompletition, layout
> switching is maybe fixable, probably not)
> 
> * Files: needs some extra features, like file rename, file delete and tag
> delete
> * doesn't work that well as books browser, especially if periodicals will be
> supported
> * The delegates mechanism is a bit heavy and clunky
> * The metadata models should be hopefully redesigned a bit and go into
> nepomuk-core
> 
> * Addons app: ui just minor bugs, needs more importers, integration with rpm
> repos. tasks: http://community.kde.org/Bodega
> 
> * Cloud integration: ui for owncloud and mirall is in progress
> * will be installed from the addons app, possibly as different options with
> online services pre-configured
> 
> * things specific about calligra or possible mediacenter integration weren't
> discussed
> 
> complete raw log:
> http://www.notmart.org/misc/active-irc-meeting-2012-10-24.txt
> 
> please point out if i forgot something
> Cheers,
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   I haven't been able to attend this meeting, for some reason I have not 
received the announce for the meeting date.
  My interest is related also to the e-book reader and I have the following 
propositions:
- use several page animations
- implement an options page to allow, among other things, the selection of the 
page animation
- okular active might need some internal rework in order to use okular core 
library as backend and separate completely the frontend implemented in QML.
- I have not yet tested okular, a must have feature should be the ability to 
open at star the previously opened document at the last read page. Please 
confirm if this feature already exists

   Not sure how well works the app store, hopefully I will put there soon my 
own version of the e-book reader

In order to encourage the application development, I think that a tutorial 
explaining how to setup a development environment for AP would be very useful 
(everything compiled from sources, not some kind of distribution having 
already installed the binaries). Maybe a building system written in python, 
similar to emerge used by kde for windows team. Also, this might help a lot 
with the tests.

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Re: Plasma Active 3

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On Wednesday 05 September 2012 11:07:44 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> - When using Kmail Touch, it looks like you try swiping several times but 
> nothing happens. Either something actually did happen but you can't tell
> what  happened from the video, or the screen didn't recognize the gesture,
> or there is a bug in Kmail Touch. Either way, it gives the impression that
> Plasma Active is sluggish, which is not good for a touchscreen UI, so I
> think that should be cut.

I had the same impression: everything run smoothly except the kmail Touch 
application. Same feeling, you tried several times to swipe, but nothing 
happens.

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Re: UX suggestions for tabletReader

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On Sunday 22 July 2012 23:38:52 Inge Wallin wrote:
> What's the status of this? I have suddenly bccome interested in ebook
> readers  for tablets and I wonder what the status of TabletReader for
> Plasma Active is.

Hi

tabletReader uses now okular core library (with some modifications). I am 
about to submit my changes to okular team so that okular core library will be 
independent of the settings of the front end. Currently I am trying to use a 
single DeclarativeView for tabletReader, the current sources can be found in 
the git repository here

https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/edu/ebookreader

However, you might experience compilation issues since okular does not yet 
integrate my changes.

For an alternative to tabletReader you might have a look at Active Okular

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Re: Installing plasma active (PA) on Balsam Professional fails

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On Monday 25 June 2012 19:15:17 Sascha Manns wrote:
> Our prefered way is to install the PA2 Image, and then updating via the 
> Repositories like described there: http://community.open-
> slx.com/articles.php?article_id=398
> But thank you very much, we have to update the Link.
> 
> > So, I think that we need a development environment for PA based on some
> > well known Linux distribution (personally I prefer openSUSE) if we want
> > to have more applications developed for this platform.
> 
> I don't think that can be. openSUSE don't support PA anymore.

Thank you, actually the install instructions exist on PA site, but they are 
among all other install options. This is exactly what I need, I would put this 
option (install PA2 with balsam, then update) as an option for developpers.

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Installing plasma active (PA) on Balsam Professional fails

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Hi

I am trying to setup a development environent for PA using an ExoPC tablet. 
The only way till now was to install the Meego based image, but this solution 
is not appropriate for development since the repositories are scarce in 
packages.

I have followed the instructions for installing PA on Balsam Professional with 
Balsam-Professional-12.1-USB-Install-i586.img and 
http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation#Installation_on_Balsam_Professional,
 
but after installing PA from repository the KDE desktop becomes unusable.

Trying to install PA from source seems to be difficult, because one needs to 
compile first KDE. I have tried several times, but with no luck and there are 
no clear instructions on PA site.

So, I think that we need a development environment for PA based on some well 
known Linux distribution (personally I prefer openSUSE) if we want to have 
more applications developed for this platform. 

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Re: Code for number wheel widget

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On Sunday 24 June 2012 12:14:04 Marco Martin wrote:
> yep, its' there
> unfortunately that code is still tangled in the date configuration, module,
> is  pretty single purpose.
> 
> what should be done is to isolate it in a general purpose reusable
> component,  so that can be moved in the plasmaextras namescpace.
> 
> any takers?

Hi

I had taken a short look, but indeed it seems quite outdated. I can update 
this component for PA, with some help from you maybe. Please tell me what 
should be done in order to transform this into a reusable component.

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Code for number wheel widget

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Hi

Could someone provide the link for the implementation of number wheel widget 
as is described in the link below ?

http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development/ActiveHIG/Widgets/NumberWheel

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Re: New git repos

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On Monday 18 June 2012 12:51:51 Marco Martin wrote:
> just as heads up, we have two new git repos of things that were discussed
> on  this list in the past:
> 
> https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/plasma-active-maliit
> https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/plasma-active-kickstart
> 
> migrated from my scratch area to playground. the first is a maliit plugin
> that  uses plasma qml components for its ui, the second is a collection of
> kickstarts and yaml files to generate mer based plasma active images

Thanks for your efforts. Just a small observation: "plasma active" should be 
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[Bug 300327] New: active-okular does not support djvu and chm files

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300327

Bug ID: 300327
  Severity: normal
   Version: unspecified
  Priority: NOR
  Assignee: active@kde.org
   Summary: active-okular does not support djvu and chm files
Classification: Unclassified
OS: Linux
  Reporter: crist...@gmail.com
  Hardware: Meego/Harmattan
Status: UNCONFIRMED
 Component: General
   Product: Active

active-okular cannot open djvu and chm files (error message says "No plugin for
mimetype ...")

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.install active-okular in meego with active plasma, devel release
2.open from terminal a document with active-documentviewer
Actual Results:  
Cannot open djvu and chm files

Expected Results:  
Should open the file or display en error message to warn the user.

active-okular should use the same okular core library as the classic okular
application. When installing active-okular the okular backend should remain the
same.

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Re: Okular active

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On Thursday 17 May 2012 17:47:15 Marco Martin wrote:
> packaging is fixed, unfortunately at the moment it still have to be
> launched  from the shell with active-documentviewer pdfpath

I have installed 2012-04-23-16-57-basyskom-plasma-active-testing-meego-usb-
live.iso, but even after repository refresh I am unable to find okular-active. 
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Re: [Okular-devel] Okular active

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On Tuesday 15 May 2012 23:28:13 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> There is also the problem of the settings class not being accessible from
> the  outside but Bogdan is working on a patch to fix that (sitting in
> reviewboard waiting for me).

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Re: Okular active

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Hi

On Tuesday 15 May 2012 22:08:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> So is this based on Bogdan's work to integrate the Okular libraries into 
> tabletReader or did he abandon this work or was it wasted because the
> result  is just being discarded?

tabletReader is not abandoned. I have been able to integrate okular core 
library into tabletReader, but there are some compilation problems due to 
separation issues between okular core library and its front-end. I am about to 
submit a patch to okular in order to try to fix some of these issues. This is 
why I am not yet able to provide an rpm, because I use a customized okular 
core library.

> 
> And is there already a package in the OBS for testing it? If so, what's its 
> name?
> The screenshot looks nice, but I'd like to see it in action so I can give 
> feedback.

I will give a try to okular active, maybe we will find a way to coordonate our 
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Re: UX suggestions for tabletReader

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On Wednesday 02 May 2012 22:25:24 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > I would never propose it for PDF reading. Poppler and the rest of the
> > Okular libraries is probably perfect for that.
> > 
> >  To be honest, I'm not that familiar with the internals of ebook
> >  readers but> 
> > there is one thing that struck me when I read about the epub format:
> > It's
> > intended to be relayouted on the fly for different screen sizes or
> > orientations (landscape / portrait).
> > 
> > The Calligra office engine can do that quite efficiently on even
> > thousand
> > pages long documents but I don't know if the Okular engine can do it. My
> > impression was that okular is mostly for fixed formats where the page is
> > fixed as is is and cannot change.  But that impression could be wrong of
> > course.
> 
> Ah okay, that makes sense :). I don't have any experience with ebooks, so I
> don't know how well the Okular libraries handle them. However, reading PDFs
> is probably at least as important a usecase as ebooks for our reader. So in
> case the Calligra Words engine actually handles ebooks better than Okular,
> it would make sense to use different backends for the two file types.
> @Bogdan: Would that be possible for your reader?

Everything is possible, but I need to know in what format the data to be 
displayed is presented by the backend. Currently only pixmaps are used, even 
if for chm is not the most efficient way.

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Re: UX suggestions for tabletReader

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On Wednesday 02 May 2012 15:48:07 Inge Wallin wrote:
> It is a word processor on the desktop currently but there are reader /
> viewer  interfaces as well, e.g. Calligra Active.
> 
> Can the okular libraries handle reflowable contents?

If calligra could provide some library as backend for handling e-documents, 
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Re: UX suggestions for tabletReader

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On Wednesday 02 May 2012 14:38:50 Inge Wallin wrote:
> Regarding the e-book reader, why not reuse Calligra Words, possibly with a 
> special UI, and create an e-book import filter? That should be the fastest
> way  to the goal. (Sorry if this is already discussed, I'm new to the
> list.)

Hi

Not familiar with calligra words, but it seems to be an word processor, not an 
e-book reader. We already have discussed about reusing okular core library as 
backend with a redesigned GUI, and this is for now the chosen solution, but 
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Re: UX suggestions for tabletReader

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On Wednesday 02 May 2012 13:59:15 you wrote:
> On 29.04.2012 19:04, Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> > On Sunday 29 April 2012 18:30:33 you wrote:
> >> sorry that it took me so long to get tabletReader running on my
> >> machine and have a look at it. It already "does the job", and I think
> >> that with some tweaks, it can offer a great experience. So as
> >> promised, here are my> 
> >> suggested improvements (in random order):
> > Hi
> > 
> > Thank you for your feedback. Currently I am working on the integration
> > with okular core library. Once I finish with that I'll have a look at
> > these issues.
> Hi,
> thank you for the update. No need to hurry. As long as find the time to work
> on the issues before feature freeze for PA3 (which is not even scheduled
> yet), It's fine with me :)
> 
> After using tabletReader a little more, i noticed a few more things:
> 
> 1. You'll need Share/Like/Connect (at a minumum rating and connecting to
> activities) features in order to integrate into Plasma Active well
> 
> 2. Sometimes I need to tap the toolbar buttons several times before they
> actually react. I don't know that the reason for that is.
> 
> 3. The menu in full-screen mode should appear already while the finger is
> still touching the screen, not after "finger up". That way the user can be
> sure when she has held long enough for it to appear, and it's also
> consistent with e.g. the context menu for resources on the PA Activity
> screen.
> 
> Best,
> Thomas

Hi

Having a release for AP3 is fine for me, even if there is no schedule yet. We 
still need to agree upon a name for the e-book reader, not sure that 
tabletReader will remain.

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Re: UX suggestions for tabletReader

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On Sunday 29 April 2012 18:30:33 you wrote:
> sorry that it took me so long to get tabletReader running on my machine and 
> have a look at it. It already "does the job", and I think that with some
> tweaks, it can offer a great experience. So as promised, here are my
> suggested improvements (in random order):

Hi

Thank you for your feedback. Currently I am working on the integration with 
okular core library. Once I finish with that I'll have a look at these issues.

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Re: tabletReader rpms

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On Wednesday 11 April 2012 11:25:46 you wrote:
> Thanks for providing the RPMs! However, there is still a problem: At least
> on  MeeGo, currently libchm.so.0 is not available, and without it,
> tabletReader does not start. Could you please provide a package for this as
> well?

Hi

Have you tried to install chmlib rpms provided for openSUSE 12.1? They should 
work with the rpms I provide. If you still have problems, please provide more 
details about your OS in order to be able to test this issue on my side.

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tabletReader rpms

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For those willing to test tabletReader, RPMs are available for openSUSE 12.1 
at

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Bogdanc23/openSUSE_12.1/

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tabletReader project is now public

[Bogdan Cristea]

All

tabletReader project repository resides now in KDE Playground so that public 
contributions are possible. It can be found at:

https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/edu/ebookreader

please note that in projects.kde.org its identifier is *ebookreader*. The 
identifier could be temporary, later we need to agree upon a name more 
specific for this project.

For read/write access with git use:

g...@git.kde.org:ebookreader

regards
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Bogdan 
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