Re: Where are the manuals today?
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0500 David E Ehresman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/StorageManagerforAIX5.1.html does not work today to find the TSM Server 5.1 manuals. Where are we suppose to find them today? http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/tdprodlist.html#S Reagrds, Alexander --- Alexander Verkooijen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Systems Programmer SARA High Performance Computing
AIX TSM better than OS390 TSM ?
Wanda, You wrote :- If you want to save mainframe disk and tape, your best bet would be to move to TSM on an AIX server (depending on the size of your clients, a WIn2K server might do). You get the same great product, terrific performance (as an ex-mainframer I can tell you the performance on AIX is incredible - wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself), and NO conversion costs for your clients. You won't have to change ANYTHING on the client end! So why is the performance on AIX so good, compared to the mainframe. Does TSM inherently run better on AIX, or is it because in many cases the AIX box will be dedicated to TSM, while OS390 TSM will usually be sharing with many other applications, and that it often does not get the resources it needs to run at optimum. We have both TSM's at our site and my perception of the usual applies here the AIX TSMs are dedicated, while I have to share a busy mainframe. John ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Re: incremental restore
That's what I also thought first. But what he wants is to replace the files that have changed after the last backup with the latest backed up version... :-) Of course he could do a PIT restore but that would result in much more database processing on the TSM server because the server would have to look for every eligible file for that system and not only the ones that changed after the last backup. It's like saying Search at Google or providing the exact URL. The results will (probably :-)) be the same but the first way takes longer. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Met vriendelijke groeten, With best regards, Bien amicalement, CU/2, Dirk Billerbeck Dirk Billerbeck CC CompuNet AG Co. oHG Enterprise Computing Solutions Am Jaegersberg 20, 24161 Altenholz (Kiel), Germany Phone: +49 (0) 431 / 3609 - 117, Fax: +49 (0) 431 / 3609 - 190, Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this mail in error, please tell us immediately by return email and delete the document. DFrance [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 21.02.2003 04:30:22 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: incremental restore -- This problem sounds impossible,,, kinda like an Ann Landers test(?). If you want to restore file that changed AFTER the latest backup, by definition, it has not been backed up, yet! I suspect, like other respondents, that you are really looking for point-in-time restore... I worked with a customer situation where a drive failure occurred slowly, such that the admin's failed to prevent normal-daily-incr from running after hundreds of thousands of files got vaporized, though the drive was still operating; the net was to research the logs for the last successful (and full/good) daily incremental, selecting the date-time of completion for the PIT parameters. Don France Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390 San Jose, Ca (408) 257-3037 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (change aye to a for replies) Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E. -- www.pacepros.com) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Xavier Merlin Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: incremental restore Hello, Someone wants to restore only the files which have changed after the latest backup. The opposite of the -ifnewer option on the restore command, in other words doing an incremental restore. There are possible ways of doing this, like for instance for a unix client: touch -t some_time_stamp some_ref_file find -newer some_ref_file files_to_restore for each if the files in files_to_restore dsmc restore . Are there any other possibilities, preferrably using standard TSM mechanisms ? Xavier Merlin DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, copying, distribution, or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error please notify KBC immediately and then delete this e-mail. KBC does not accept liability for the correct and complete transmission of the information, nor for any delay or interruption of the transmission, nor for damages arising from the use of or reliance on the information. All e-mail messages addressed to, received or sent by KBC or KBC employees are deemed to be professional in nature. Accordingly, the sender or recipient of these messages agrees that they may be read by other KBC employees than the official recipient or sender in order to ensure the continuity of work-related activities and allow supervision thereof.
Re: Linux back up files
Does anyone know of a listing of how a dsmc inc backs up. Is it touched files and modified or is there some kind of listing of how TSM distinguishes when an incremental should back up a file in Linux. Our Linux admins say it is backing up too much. Thank You, Bill Rosette Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International Bill - Did you not get the response that I posted yesterday? It's all in the manual: See p.64 of the Unix B/A Clients manual. Richard Sims, BU
Deleting DB backup volume
hi, in our practice application,i have a question for tivoli storage manamger.the version of tsm software that we used is 5.1.0.0,in order to protect tsm server database,we use the tsm administrator command backup db BRtype=full devc=ltodevclass to perform database fu ll backup,the backup database located into one scratch volume in ibm 3584 tape library,use the command q libv to check the upon scratch volumes status that is dbbackup status.i want to let the dbbackup volume turn into scratch or private volume, in other words,as normally data backup.verify the volume history file during performing q volh command,the following inf ormation is contained: database backup time:09/29/2002 i use del volh type=dbb toda=today-500 and attemp to delete the dbbackup volume in the volume history file,the result shows that zero sequential volume history entries were successfully deleted,then i use q volh com mand to verify the volume history file,the entry that described database backup is always exist,so i dont't delete the dbbackup vo lume. can you help me how to delete the dbbackup volume? please write back me ASAP. When posting messages, please include Subject in your mailing so as to identify the thread for tying responses to the original posting. today-500 means 500 or more days ago. Unless you are holding onto Dbbackup tapes for 500 days, you need to employ a shorter age specification for the tapes which may be deleted, such as today-5 to recycle tapes 5 or more days old. Richard Sims, BU
Re: delete volhist t=dbb (was no subject)
where you used today=today-500 is saying you only want to delete entries OLDER than 500 days ago... In other words, you are asking it to KEEP things that are less than about 1.5 years, probably not what you want... Use del volhist t=dbb tod=today-7 or some number smaller than 500... I only keep one weeks worth of tsm data base backups. ALSO you can't delete the ONLY data base backup tape no matter how hard you try. TSM is very nice and won't let you shoot yourself in the foot... hope this helps... Dwight -Original Message- From: jiangguohong1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hi, in our practice application,i have a question for tivoli storage manamger.the version of tsm software that we used is 5.1.0.0,in order to protect tsm server database,we use the tsm administrator command backup db BRtype=full devc=ltodevclass to perform database full backup,the backup database located into one scratch volume in ibm 3584 tape library,use the command q libv to check the upon scratch volumes status that is dbbackup status.i want to let the dbbackup volume turn into scratch or private volume, in other words,as normally data backup.verify the volume history file during performing q volh command,the following information is contained: database backup time:09/29/2002 i use del volh type=dbb toda=today-500 and attemp to delete the dbbackup volume in the volume history file,the result shows that zero sequential volume history entries were successfully deleted,then i use q volh command to verify the volume history file,the entry that described database backup is always exist,so i dont't delete the dbbackup volume. can you help me how to delete the dbbackup volume? please write back me ASAP.
client ip in query node
Hi, remembering that just yesterday somebody asked about this (irl): adsm q n muis f=d Session established with server COOKE: AIX-RS/6000 Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 6.2 Server date/time: 02/21/03 17:29:00 Last access: 02/21/03 17:01:02 Node Name: MUIS Platform: AIX Client OS Level: 5.1 Client Version: Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.11 Policy Domain Name: STANDARD Last Access Date/Time: 02/21/03 17:28:36 Days Since Last Access: 1 Password Set Date/Time: 02/21/03 17:04:32 Days Since Password Set: 1 Invalid Sign-on Count: 0 Locked?: No Contact: Compression: Client Archive Delete Allowed?: Yes Backup Delete Allowed?: No Registration Date/Time: 02/21/03 17:04:32 Registering Administrator: REMCO Last Communication Method Used: Bytes Received Last Session: 0 Bytes Sent Last Session: 0 Duration of Last Session: 0.00 Pct. Idle Wait Last Session: 0.00 Pct. Comm. Wait Last Session: 0.00 Pct. Media Wait Last Session: 0.00 Optionset: URL: Node Type: Client Password Expiration Period: Keep Mount Point?: No Maximum Mount Points Allowed: 1 Auto Filespace Rename : No Validate Protocol: No TCP/IP Name: muis TCP/IP Address: 145.100.16.14 Globally Unique ID: b4.5b.88.e2.45.cf.11.d7.be.d0.08.63.91.64.10.0e -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdamhttp://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 8008Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams
Problem with Storagetek L20 and 5.1.6.2
Hello, I juste upgraded my TSM server on AIX 4.3.3 to 5.1.6.2 from 4.1.6 and I had to reinstall the devices software at 4.1 level to have my Storagetek work. The library functionned but the DLT1 drives where unable to read tapes. I got the following message : 20.02.03 14:06:43 ANR8302E I/O error on drive DLT1.2 (/dev/mt1) (OP=SETMODE, Error Number=22, CC=207, KEY=FF, ASC=FF, ASCQ=FF, SENSE=**NONE**, Description=Device is not in a state capable of performing request). Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages' manual for recommended action. I just updated TSM to 5.1.6.2 and removed the drive and the library before recreating them. Did I do anything wrong or is it normal (I hope not) Regards Etienne GUILLAUMONT e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB Technologie Parc d'Innovation, Bâtiment PYTHAGORE 11 Rue Jean SAPIDUS 67400 ILLKIRCH Tél : 03 90 40 60 60 Fax : 03 90 40 60 61
Re: Order of daily administrative events
Good point Dave. I am moving my PREPARE to after my MOVE DRMEDIA that ejects my database tape. -Original Message- From: David Bronder [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Order of daily administrative events Coats, Jack wrote: Ours is slightly different, [...snip...] make DR plan file eject copypool tape volumes and db backup, put dr plan on offsite media to go with the db backup. [...snip...] If I understand how PREPARE creates the DR plan file, this order will result in a recovery script that won't work like you expect. It will mark all the copy pool and DB backup tapes still on-site at the time PREPARE was run as DESTROYED. If you reverse the order (MOVE DRMEDIA first, then PREPARE), the plan file will think the most recent DB backup and copy pool tapes are available for use (because they were considered off-site at the time). =Dave -- Hello World.David Bronder - Systems Admin Segmentation Fault ITS-SPA, Univ. of Iowa Core dumped, disk trashed, quota filled, soda warm. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SHOW commands and TSM 5162
Anyone else running 5162 and able to use the SHOW VERSION command? I've never used the SHOW VERSION command before but on my 5.1.6.2 server, a SHOW VERSION nodename filespacename returns output like one might expect from a show command. David
Re: Tivoli pubs email address evaporated
Please don't leave out thanking Dwight Cook in the mix below. Thanks Dwight! Zlatko Krastev [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ET cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: Tivoli pubs email address evaporated Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 02/20/2003 07:13 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi Andy, I know this list *is not* an official communication method to IBM and even tried to explain this once or twice. Usually I am opening PMRs on behalf of our customers. Also was already few times annoyed with unavailability of ESR tool (which was also promptly reported to ibm.com). Not only me but all we should thank to those many IBMers volunteering on the list and helping us all the time. Just to name a few: Del Hoobler, Thiha Than, Neil Rasmussen, Pete Tanenhaus, Gianluca Mariani, Nick Cassimatis, Bill Degli-Angeli, Gabriel Wiley, Hunny Kershaw, Lotti Brooks and of course our top poster Mr. Raibeck. You guys are helping us alot and we are overusing your kind assistance all the time (not bagging, I would disagree with the recent discussion). At least I can recall 4-5 time you Andy made this same P.S. - APAR was opened on something. The pulse of TSM's life was sensed by development directly. And despite many comments seen here about the product, my (personal) opinion is this is one of the best supported products I've worked with. Side question to rest of the list: for how many products you've had the same or better support and from how many vendors? I do not have any idea about support quality in U.S. At least here in Bulgaria IBM's support is far from good but is THE BEST compared to *any* other vendor. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.02.2003 23:25 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tivoli pubs email address evaporated Hi Zlatko, I understand your and everyone else's frustration. When it comes to the TSM product code, ADSM-L is one of the best places to be because your message gets to people who write the code. In a similar fashion, the feedback mechanism that I mentioned yesterday will enable your message about the books and the web site to get to the people who manage the books and the web site. While we in development make a best effort to carry this kind of feedback to the right people, the feedback is now second-hand, and as such, it tends to get diluted. So I would recommend that you use the web site's feedback mechanism to provide feedback on the web site and the books. Please note that I am not trying to be dismissive of these legitimate issues; I am only trying to help point you to the place where your voice is likely to have a greater impact. Best regards, Andy P.S. APAR IC35702 has been opened to address the documentation problem that was created when the pubs email address went away. Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Andy, please do not assume its personal to you - you just brought the bad news, not created them. Actually those web folks (not we) ought to submit in this case a long list of requests for doc-updates. Each book contains the hard to redirect address. I would bet some other books have already been submitted for publishing and also contain the wrong address. At least my docs for ITSM 5.1 contain it (and are less than a year old). Why is so hard to redirect this address for a year or two before discontinuing it?! Or IBM is losing control over tivoli.com domain? Regarding Steve's recent post I will not throw all the mud on developers. But for sure can complain about management of tivoli.com to ibm.com transition (despite all help and communications from Luiz Nevarez). Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant
Re: can't delete filespace
According to the help for ANR0859E: User Response: Examine the server messages issued prior to this message to determine the source of the error. Issue the QUERY ACTLOG command to view the activity log and search for messages. If the error cannot be isolated and resolved, contact your service representative. Are there any other messages in the ACTLOG? Like maybe an ANR message? If not, sounds like a time to call Tivoli. If you can afford to take and keep your TSM server down, try an AUDITDB FIX=YES to see if you have any database corruption problems. Bill Boyer I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. - ??? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexander Lazarevich Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can't delete filespace Um, yeah, that fixes one problem, but then we are back to the original failure: ANR2017I Administrator DUDE issued command: DELETE FILESPACE zworykin.itg.uiuc.edu \\zworykin\c$ type=any ANR0984I Process 672 for DELETE FILESPACE started in the BACKGROUND a 16:41:03. ANR0800I DELETE FILESPACE: \\zworykin\c$ for node ZWORYKIN.ITG.UIUC.EDU started as process 672. ANR0802I Delete Filespace \\zworykin\c$ (backup/archive data) for node ZWORYKIN.ITG.UIUC.EDU started. ANR2017I Administrator DUDE issued command: QUERY PROCESS ANR0859E Data storage object erasure failure, DELETE FILESPACE process aborted. ANR0985I Process 672 for DELETE FILESPACE running in the BACKGROUND completed with completion state FAILURE at 16:41:15. Any ideas what to do now? Thanks! Alex --- --- Alex Lazarevich | Systems Administrator | Imaging Technology Group Beckman Institute - University of Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (217)244-1565 | www.itg.uiuc.edu --- --- On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Nicholas Cassimatis wrote: Something looked wrong here, and it's the filespace name. The output of query filespace has it like this: \\zworykin\c$ But way I've seen it on all of my servers is: \\zworykin\$c Not sure how a 3.1 server would handle the rename of the filespaces to the UNC path, so it may have that messed up in the display. I'd try this command, see if it works: delete file zworykin.itg.uiuc.edu \\zworykin\c$ type=any Nick Cassimatis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Think twice, type once.
Re: TDP for oracle set up
From memory the dsm.sys that tdp looks for should be in the api/oracle/bin directory and not the dsm.sys that the client software uses. Good luck -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday 20 February 2003 22:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TDP for oracle set up Client info Oracle v9.2 TDP v 2.2.0 (64 bit api) TSM v 4.2.2 Solaris v 2.8 Server zOS running TSM Server 4.2.2.9 I'm trying to run TDPOCONF PASSWORD to authenticate the client to the server. I get prompted for the password, enter it... and then get the following error message: ANS0263E (RC2230) Either the dsm.sys file was not found, or the Inclexcl file specified in the dsm.sys was not found Both files exist and the permissions are correct Any help Regards, Joe
Re: SHOW commands and TSM 5162
Thanks for testing this out for me David using your environment, I'll keep on looking then. The * doesn't seem to help any: tsm: C2TSMSERVshow version c2n11aix * ANR0852E SHOW: No matching file spaces found for node C2N11AIX. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/03 07:36AM Anyone else running 5162 and able to use the SHOW VERSION command? I've never used the SHOW VERSION command before but on my 5.1.6.2 server, a SHOW VERSION nodename filespacename returns output like one might expect from a show command. David
Re: Restoring RMAN data onto different server
NO , you can't . Also we can't restore ORAClE DB using TSM which are backedup by RMAN /TDP. RMAN restores it . RMAN on 9i - Guide from Oracle press for more details .. SD Theresa Sarver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/2003 05:37 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Restoring RMAN data onto different server Hi All; Environment: SP Complex (7 nodes) AIX 433 ML10 TSM Server 5162 TSM Clients 415 TDP Oracle 110 Oracle Database (RMAN) 817 The DBA's asked me if they could possibly restore one of their test RMAN (817) databases onto a different node, as I do not know the answer to this question I am deferring to all your experts out there. Thank you in advance for the help; Theresa
Re: Novell Redirected Restore Problem
I've done this successfully, although I insist that the NW admins use their NWcopy rather than TSM restores. First thing I'd do is upgrade the NW6 client to 5.1.5.1 at least, I didn't like the 5.1.1 client much.Then you might want to have the same on the 4.1 box. I assume you've got the access set. or are using virtualnodename Coats, Jack wrote: I have some old Novell 4.11 systems, backing them up with TSM client 4.2.2.0 to a Windows TSM server running 4.2.3.1 (sofar so good). Communications is IPX only with this client. I now have a new Novell 6 server using TSM client 5.1.1.0 - this client is in a new (test) NDS tree, and is talking TCP/IP only. It can do backup and restore of itself. I cannot seem to do a cross system restore from the old Novell server data to the new Novell server. It is getting some kind of (apparently) TSM authentication error. Suggestion on how to get this to work, or what to try next? ... This is in support of moving from Novell 4.11 to Novell 6 (a supported version). Once that is done, we can upgrade TSM to something with a longer life! TIA ... Jack -- Jim Kirkman AIS - Systems UNC-Chapel Hill 966-5884
Re: Restoring RMAN data onto different server
Thanks for the response, though the DBA's aren't going to like to hear that too much. Thanks again; Theresa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/03 07:50AM NO , you can't . Also we can't restore ORAClE DB using TSM which are backedup by RMAN /TDP. RMAN restores it . RMAN on 9i - Guide from Oracle press for more details .. SD Theresa Sarver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/2003 05:37 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Restoring RMAN data onto different server Hi All; Environment: SP Complex (7 nodes) AIX 433 ML10 TSM Server 5162 TSM Clients 415 TDP Oracle 110 Oracle Database (RMAN) 817 The DBA's asked me if they could possibly restore one of their test RMAN (817) databases onto a different node, as I do not know the answer to this question I am deferring to all your experts out there. Thank you in advance for the help; Theresa
Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly
I do 1TB+ backups nightly which run for about 8 hours. A large part of our backup is a 500GB Oracle database backup to TSM. The database backups up over a private 1Gb connection to a AIX P660-6h1 server with 2GB of RAM and 4 processors. The data then goes to nine 2disk stripe sets, over a 1Gb SAN connection (I went with stripe sets because RAID5 was just to slow). I'm getting high iowat times on my AIX TSM server. I'm having a hard time pinpointing exactly where the bottleneck is at. Currently it takes 51/2 hours to backup 500GB but I know it can be better. My question is are any of you that are moving this amount of data faster than me using a more powerful server like a IBM 690. THanks ***EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of th individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.996.3941.
Re: TSM Disk Pool Management
Manuel, The remote copypool ended up being NetWare 6, i can serve up a 8TB volume to TSM with Novell Storage Services (NSS). NetWare's Common Internet FileSystem (CIFS) allows TSM access without loading a NetWare client on the TSM server. i chose this approach because copypools can only access sequential media, so NAS was my only option. It also appears copypools can only have a single device which limited me to one NAS volume per copypool. Windows volumes have a limit of 2TB which was too small for my backuppool, short of having to break it up into multiple 2TB backuppools and copypools, i decide to use NetWare to get around this, we are also a NetWare shop so this was a no brainier. Everything seems to working fine so far but it's still new. I also have another 7TB of ATA disk arrays on order that should get here in a couple of weeks, the price is now down to ~$3,000/TB. Let me know how this solution sound to you and also let me know what you decide to go with. Thanks, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/03 09:03AM John, I read your message on adsm.org Mailing List. I wonder if you implemented the remote copy pool. We are considering a similar solution, and we are talking to DataCore and FalconStor. Thanks, Manuel J. Sanchez Assurant Group (305) 252-7035 x32153 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Unless you are the intended addressee, any review, reliance, dissemination, distribution, copying or use whatsoever of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error, please reply immediately and delete the material from all computers. Email sent through the Internet is not secure. Do not use email to send us confidential information such as credit card numbers, PIN numbers, passwords, Social Security Numbers, Account numbers, or other important and confidential information.
Re: AIX TSM better than OS390 TSM ?
Hi John, I should have included more caveats in that message; I didn't mean to imply that AIX performance is ALWAYS better than OS/390. You can certainly set up configurations where either OS/390 performs better, or where AIX performs better. And I am certainly not an AIX wizard, my background is primarily in OS/390 performance storage management. In many cases, as you said, people get better performance on TSM/AIX simply because they are running the AIX TSM server on a dedicated host and don't have to fight for resources. The AIX TCP/IP stack also performs much better than the TCP/IP stack on the earlier versions of OS/390; in every release of OS/390 that is getting better. And it appears to me that AIX has a shorter code path for doing I/O than OS/390. AIX also uses all the available free memory in the box for (in OS/390 terms) I/O buffers, and the I/O just flies, even though the AIX boxes don't have the back end I/O processor hardware that mainframes do. On the other hand, many OS/390 systems benefit from having a lot of I/O paths available where you can tune and spread the I/O around, where some people order AIX boxes with just one disk I/O bus (that's a MISTAKE!), so that you eventually will hit a dead end on throughput. Now those are all just BLAZING GENERALITIES, I know -- and I'm the first to tell you that the answer to all tuning and configuration questions is: IT DEPENDS!!! My intent was just to assure the original writer that she could move TSM off her OS/390 system to AIX without worrying about giving up performance. -Original Message- From: John Naylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AIX TSM better than OS390 TSM ? Wanda, You wrote :- If you want to save mainframe disk and tape, your best bet would be to move to TSM on an AIX server (depending on the size of your clients, a WIn2K server might do). You get the same great product, terrific performance (as an ex-mainframer I can tell you the performance on AIX is incredible - wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself), and NO conversion costs for your clients. You won't have to change ANYTHING on the client end! So why is the performance on AIX so good, compared to the mainframe. Does TSM inherently run better on AIX, or is it because in many cases the AIX box will be dedicated to TSM, while OS390 TSM will usually be sharing with many other applications, and that it often does not get the resources it needs to run at optimum. We have both TSM's at our site and my perception of the usual applies here the AIX TSMs are dedicated, while I have to share a busy mainframe. John ** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **
Re: Order of daily administrative events
Thanks. I've gotten lots of good responses to this question. TSM support told me the order they suggest is something like: Expire Reclaim Migrate Backup Storage Backup Database Set Migrate back to high Set Reclaim back to high Move DRM (This is with backups being run at night) Most of the order of events that I've seen (including mine) are not quite set up the way TSM support suggests. I wonder if there is an optimum way to do this or if it depends on the needs of your shop? By the way, I like your idea about Expiration running at night. I hadn't thought of that. Tommy Templeton Senior System Administrator DFA-MMRS 601-359-3106 e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Paul Ripke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events My 5 AUS cents: - backup diskpool - offsite pool - migrate diskpool - primary tape - backup primary tape - offsite - backup db - eject drm - run reclamaitions Expiration runs during a quite period over night. Cheers, -- Paul Ripke Unix/OpenVMS/TSM/DBA 101 reasons why you can't find your Sysadmin: 68: It's 9AM. He/She is not working that late. -- Koos van den Hout
Re: version 5.1.6.2
HI, We have been running about 1 week with this version - no problems so far. Jane Jane Bamberger IS Department Bassett Healthcare 607-547-4784 -Original Message- From: Muthyam Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: version 5.1.6.2 ** High Priority ** kind men, We'r planning to upgrade TSM from 5.1.0 to 5.1.6.2 this weekend.Have anyone experiened problems with 5.1.6.2. please write ur experiences. thanks in adv regds /mani + This electronic mail transmission contains information from Joy Mining Machinery which is confidential, and is intended only for the use of the proper addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately at the return address on this transmission, or by telephone at (724) 779-4500, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Unauthorized use, copying, disclosing, distributing, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. +
Re: 5.1.6.2 is out
Hi, I usually get a call back within 1 hour - and then they follow up almost daily - I have never been dropped from the radar! Jane Jane Bamberger IS Department Bassett Healthcare 607-547-4784 -Original Message- From: Remeta, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 5.1.6.2 is out How's this one, I call on Thursday February the 6th and get a pmr number. The following morning a level 1 tech e-mail's me for some information. By the following Monday, all through email, no phone call yet, he ascertains that it is a system resource issue and I should check my system and environment logs. I told him that is why I am calling them and I would appreciate a call back by a level 2 tech. Here it is the 20th and I'm still waiting for my call back! Some service... Mark -Original Message- From: Mark Bertrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 5.1.6.2 is out I was not going to post to this message, but I found it SO surprising that I could not let it go by. snip If yur hold time with IBM is more than 5 minutes the operators are busy. If its more than minutes to get to the tech, then all the techs are busy. There are times that I have waited 15+ minutes, but this is rare.snip Wow, is this how everyone's support calls go? What number are you guys calling? When I call 1800 848 6548, I usually get to talk to a person right away that assigns a PMR, but usually end up waiting hours or days for a call back. Wow, 15 minutes, just wondering if this was the norm out there. Thanks, Mark B. -Original Message- From: Sias Dealy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 5.1.6.2 is out Geoff, I know of a company that once lay off IBM hardware and software and went with another company. The first month or so everything seem to be fine. Then the hardware started to have some problems and then everyday there was a problem with the hardware. The hardware tech practically lived in the company. When calling in for support. The wait in the hold queue was about 15+ minutes just to get to the person to get your information and then it was another 20+ minutes to get to the tech. After a year the company went back to IBM. If yur hold time with IBM is more than 5 minutes the operators are busy. If its more than minutes to get to the tech, then all the techs are busy. There are times that I have waited 15+ minutes, but this is rare. In my shop we do not install the patches unless there is no work around. With patches you can solve one issue and introduce a new unknown issue. If we are not experiencing any problems we do not install any patch code. Maintence code is what we mostly upgrade to. Sias Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On, Gill, Geoffrey L. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This morning I've seen email asking us to lay off IBM. Does anyone have any further experience with any level of 5.1.6 that can convince anyone it's stable? Is anyone on 5.1.5x satified with that delivery? Is anyone who is on 5.1.6.0 satisfied with the delivery? Is anyone on 5.1.6.1 satisfied with that delivery? Is anyone ready to move to 5.1.6.2? Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154 Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately.
Re: Order of daily administrative events
well, i would backup storage before migrating it, will spare many tape mounts ! -Original Message- From: Tommy Templeton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday,21. February 2003 15:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events Thanks. I've gotten lots of good responses to this question. TSM support told me the order they suggest is something like: Expire Reclaim Migrate Backup Storage Backup Database Set Migrate back to high Set Reclaim back to high Move DRM (This is with backups being run at night) Most of the order of events that I've seen (including mine) are not quite set up the way TSM support suggests. I wonder if there is an optimum way to do this or if it depends on the needs of your shop? By the way, I like your idea about Expiration running at night. I hadn't thought of that. Tommy Templeton Senior System Administrator DFA-MMRS 601-359-3106 e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Paul Ripke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events My 5 AUS cents: - backup diskpool - offsite pool - migrate diskpool - primary tape - backup primary tape - offsite - backup db - eject drm - run reclamaitions Expiration runs during a quite period over night. Cheers, -- Paul Ripke Unix/OpenVMS/TSM/DBA 101 reasons why you can't find your Sysadmin: 68: It's 9AM. He/She is not working that late. -- Koos van den Hout
Re: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly
Here there are DB servers with 3.8 TB oracle SAP instances on them and they backup at a peak rate of 304-342 GB/hr. How ? Large client server (Sun E10K with 32 processors) Gb ethernet 15 concurrent client sessions client compression goes to diskpool, not straight to tape... Each session is able to keep a processor running at about 90+%. Each session sees a peak transfer rate of about 5+ GB/hr of COMPRESSED CLIENT DATA at an average of 3.8/1 compression ratio that is about 19+ GB/hr of actual oracle data base space. Network transfer rates run about 80-90 GB/hr but at an average of 3.8/1 compression that is the 304-342 GB/hr of actual oracle data base space. TSM server is a 7017-S70 with only two processors and really doesn't run that busy (30-45% maybe) TSM server does utilize ESS storage but we see this same sort of abilities on tsm servers using large amounts of SSA disks configured as JBOD... but we try to limit things to one drawer per SSA loop. Now I said peak transfer rates because at that peak rate the 3.8 TB data base should backup in about 12.8 hours but it actually runs between 14-16 hours. Also one can utilize 100 Mb/sec fast ethernet if they are OK with just 40 GB/hr data transfer rates that puts the backup from 14 hours to just under 24... Dwight -Original Message- From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly I do 1TB+ backups nightly which run for about 8 hours. A large part of our backup is a 500GB Oracle database backup to TSM. The database backups up over a private 1Gb connection to a AIX P660-6h1 server with 2GB of RAM and 4 processors. The data then goes to nine 2disk stripe sets, over a 1Gb SAN connection (I went with stripe sets because RAID5 was just to slow). I'm getting high iowat times on my AIX TSM server. I'm having a hard time pinpointing exactly where the bottleneck is at. Currently it takes 51/2 hours to backup 500GB but I know it can be better. My question is are any of you that are moving this amount of data faster than me using a more powerful server like a IBM 690. THanks ***EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of th individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.996.3941.
Re: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly
Whether this helps or not, on testing the backups of Oracle databases to TSM we found it far quicker to set a max filesize (1GB is what we use) on the disk pool and let the big DB files got straight to tape. Your bottleneck is then with the setup of your tape drives. We don't backup a given DB of your sort of size but we do back up numerous large databases of approaching 100GB in size. Our config is a P660 6M1 with 2 CPU's and 1GB memory. with four directly attached LTO HVD drives (each on their own bus) and four SAN attached LTO drives (with Four FC adapters in the server). With regards to whether a P690 is a better way to go... I would say probably not. The only advantage of the P690 over a P660 in I/O throughput is if you need shed loads of I/O adapters to support your tape drives and disks. Cheers Andy Wilcox Midrange Services Aquila Networks Services Ltd -Original Message- From: Dearman, Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 February 2003 14:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly I do 1TB+ backups nightly which run for about 8 hours. A large part of our backup is a 500GB Oracle database backup to TSM. The database backups up over a private 1Gb connection to a AIX P660-6h1 server with 2GB of RAM and 4 processors. The data then goes to nine 2disk stripe sets, over a 1Gb SAN connection (I went with stripe sets because RAID5 was just to slow). I'm getting high iowat times on my AIX TSM server. I'm having a hard time pinpointing exactly where the bottleneck is at. Currently it takes 51/2 hours to backup 500GB but I know it can be better. My question is are any of you that are moving this amount of data faster than me using a more powerful server like a IBM 690. THanks ***EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of th individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.996.3941. ** ** Confidentiality: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, use of this information (including disclosure, copying or distribution) may be unlawful. Please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the message immediately. Security: Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. Viruses: This e-mail (and any attachments) has been checked (using Sophos Sweep 3.63 + patches) and found to be clean from any virus infection before leaving. Therefore neither Aquila Networks Services Ltd nor Midlands Electricity plc or any of their group undertakings (as defined by the Companies Act 1989) (together referred to as the Companies) accept legal responsibility for this message or liability for the consequences of any computer viruses which may have been transmitted by this e-mail. Monitoring: All electronic communications with the Companies may be monitored in accordance with the UK Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, Lawful Business Practice Regulations, 2000. If you do not consent to such monitoring, you should contact the sender of this e-mail. Aquila Networks Services Limited, Registered office: Whittington Hall, Whittington, Worcester, WR5 2RB Registered in England and Wales number 3600545 This e-mail may be sent on behalf of any of the Companies. ** **
bug?
Hi, tsm: COOKEq stg Storage Device EstimatedPctPct High Low Next Stora- Pool NameClass NameCapacity Util Migr Mig Mig ge Pool (MB) Pct Pct --- -- -- - - --- --- ARCHIVEPOOL DISK 2,000.00.00.090 70 FILEPOOL BACKUPPOOL DISK 2,000.0 65.3 65.390 70 FILEPOOL DDSPOOL TAPECLASS 0.00.00.090 70 FILECOPYPO- FILEDEV 100,000.04.1 OL FILEPOOL FILEDEV 100,000.04.66.090 70 SPACEMGPOOL DISK 2,000.0 50.4 50.490 70 FILEPOOL So this is our test-server, no biggy, but ehhh,this isn't supposed to work this way... -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdamhttp://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 8008Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Order of daily administrative events
Thats what I thought too. We are doing it that way now also. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-CSC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:55 AM Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events well, i would backup storage before migrating it, will spare many tape mounts ! -Original Message- From: Tommy Templeton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday,21. February 2003 15:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events Thanks. I've gotten lots of good responses to this question. TSM support told me the order they suggest is something like: Expire Reclaim Migrate Backup Storage Backup Database Set Migrate back to high Set Reclaim back to high Move DRM (This is with backups being run at night) Most of the order of events that I've seen (including mine) are not quite set up the way TSM support suggests. I wonder if there is an optimum way to do this or if it depends on the needs of your shop? By the way, I like your idea about Expiration running at night. I hadn't thought of that. Tommy Templeton Senior System Administrator DFA-MMRS 601-359-3106 e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Paul Ripke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events My 5 AUS cents: - backup diskpool - offsite pool - migrate diskpool - primary tape - backup primary tape - offsite - backup db - eject drm - run reclamaitions Expiration runs during a quite period over night. Cheers, -- Paul Ripke Unix/OpenVMS/TSM/DBA 101 reasons why you can't find your Sysadmin: 68: It's 9AM. He/She is not working that late. -- Koos van den Hout
Re: Restoring RMAN data onto different server
I know the DBA's here are backing up restoring Oracle 8.1.6 databases between servers using RMAN/TDPO. We are running TDP 2.2.0.1. How they are doing it I have no idea It was setup/scripted by a consultant from IBM Global Services. -- Bruce Kamp Midrange Systems Analyst II Memorial Healthcare System E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: (954) 987-2020 x4597 F: (954) 985-1404 --- -Original Message- From: Theresa Sarver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Restoring RMAN data onto different server Thanks for the response, though the DBA's aren't going to like to hear that too much. Thanks again; Theresa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/03 07:50AM NO , you can't . Also we can't restore ORAClE DB using TSM which are backedup by RMAN /TDP. RMAN restores it . RMAN on 9i - Guide from Oracle press for more details .. SD Theresa Sarver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/2003 05:37 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Restoring RMAN data onto different server Hi All; Environment: SP Complex (7 nodes) AIX 433 ML10 TSM Server 5162 TSM Clients 415 TDP Oracle 110 Oracle Database (RMAN) 817 The DBA's asked me if they could possibly restore one of their test RMAN (817) databases onto a different node, as I do not know the answer to this question I am deferring to all your experts out there. Thank you in advance for the help; Theresa
Re: 5.1.6.2 is out
We are on 5.1.6.1 and it been very stable No problem David C. Pearson IS Production Support Analyst System Network Service Snohomish County PUD # 1 ole0.bmp Phone: 425.347.4420 Pager: 425.290.0944 FAX: 425.267.6380 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:5.1.6.2 is out This morning I've seen email asking us to lay off IBM. Does anyone have any further experience with any level of 5.1.6 that can convince anyone it's stable? Is anyone on 5.1.5x satified with that delivery? Is anyone who is on 5.1.6.0 satisfied with the delivery? Is anyone on 5.1.6.1 satisfied with that delivery? Is anyone ready to move to 5.1.6.2? Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154 ole0.bmp
show ver on oracle filespaces
Theresa, when I run the command I see info like this: /adsmorc : // al_00ee894v_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT) Active, Inserted 01/31/03 02:40:32 ObjId: 0.134453795 /adsmorc : // al_01ee894v_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT) Active, Inserted 01/31/03 02:40:32 ObjId: 0.134453794 /adsmorc : // al_03ee89nc_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT) Active, Inserted 01/31/03 02:50:22 ObjId: 0.134455581 /adsmorc : // al_04e7u4ci_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT) Active, Inserted 11/16/02 10:40:20 ObjId: 0.112626200 Does the insertion data jibe with reality? I mean, RMAN/TDPO are set up to only keep 7 days worth of incrs. So, following that logic, those object should not be there, correct? Isn't the tdposync utility supposed to get rid of the stragglers? When I run tdposync syncdb, it comes back with the message that The TSM Server is synchronized with the Oracle Catalog or there are no matching files in the requested filespace If these are stranded objects, how would I delete them from TSM, since RMANs catalog doesn't know about them? help! lisa Theresa Sarver tsarver.IFMC@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDPS.ORGcc: Sent by: Subject: SHOW commands and TSM 5162 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 02/20/2003 05:13 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Does anyone know - do the SHOW commands work with TSM Server 5162? I used them all the time to view my TDP for Oracle data under TSM415, but after upgrading the following is returned: tsm: C2TSMSERVshow version c2f1n11ex_oracle /adsmorc ANR0852E SHOW: No matching file spaces found for node C2F1N11EX_ORACLE. Anyone else running 5162 and able to use the SHOW VERSION command? Thanks; Theresa
Re: Tivoli pubs email address evaporated
Zlatko -- I agree we're imposing on the good will of the IBM and Tivoli staff that show their presence here, and also appreciate their help on the issues we bring up. Thanks to all of you! In answer to your side question -- I'm a retread mainframe sysprog, from back when a sev-1 system down would keep you on the phone line with level-2 or level-3 (hot transfer from the original call) until the system was back up or a work-around had been dispatched. From that regard, ALL IBM support has gone downhill. OTOH -- I have no complaints with the design of the product and few complaints with the implementation. And the complaints I do have, as I have said, I lay at the feet of management, not the support staff. When I finally get through to support, I get useable answers; it's just that the timeframe could be improved. I've looked at some of the other products, and there is NO WAY I'd try to run my environment with them. My implementation complaint boils down to the lack of a way back on server upgrades. Because of the complexity of the product there is always the chance I'll hit something that passed through the testing environment. I *must* have a way of going back to the previous server level without loosing ANY of the intervening backups or archives. I'm going to play with export/import this time around (can I export a node from TSM 5 and import the result into TSM 4?). And back to the original topic here -- would it kill someone to add an MX record for [EMAIL PROTECTED] that points to the new recipient? Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: Zlatko Krastev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tivoli pubs email address evaporated Hi Andy, I know this list *is not* an official communication method to IBM and even tried to explain this once or twice. Usually I am opening PMRs on behalf of our customers. Also was already few times annoyed with unavailability of ESR tool (which was also promptly reported to ibm.com). Not only me but all we should thank to those many IBMers volunteering on the list and helping us all the time. Just to name a few: Del Hoobler, Thiha Than, Neil Rasmussen, Pete Tanenhaus, Gianluca Mariani, Nick Cassimatis, Bill Degli-Angeli, Gabriel Wiley, Hunny Kershaw, Lotti Brooks and of course our top poster Mr. Raibeck. You guys are helping us alot and we are overusing your kind assistance all the time (not bagging, I would disagree with the recent discussion). At least I can recall 4-5 time you Andy made this same P.S. - APAR was opened on something. The pulse of TSM's life was sensed by development directly. And despite many comments seen here about the product, my (personal) opinion is this is one of the best supported products I've worked with. Side question to rest of the list: for how many products you've had the same or better support and from how many vendors? I do not have any idea about support quality in U.S. At least here in Bulgaria IBM's support is far from good but is THE BEST compared to *any* other vendor. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.02.2003 23:25 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tivoli pubs email address evaporated Hi Zlatko, I understand your and everyone else's frustration. When it comes to the TSM product code, ADSM-L is one of the best places to be because your message gets to people who write the code. In a similar fashion, the feedback mechanism that I mentioned yesterday will enable your message about the books and the web site to get to the people who manage the books and the web site. While we in development make a best effort to carry this kind of feedback to the right people, the feedback is now second-hand, and as such, it tends to get diluted. So I would recommend that you use the web site's feedback mechanism to provide feedback on the web site and the books. Please note that I am not trying to be dismissive of these legitimate issues; I am only trying to help point you to the place where your voice is likely to have a greater impact. Best regards, Andy P.S. APAR IC35702 has been opened to address the documentation problem that was created when the pubs email address went away. Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Andy, please do not assume its personal to you - you just brought the bad news, not created them. Actually those web folks (not we) ought to submit in this case a long list of requests for doc-updates. Each book contains the hard to redirect address. I would bet some other books have already been
Re: show ver on oracle filespaces
Hi Lisa; Yes, I would say that the insert date jibes with reality ( - - I like that). I don't know a whole lot about the RMAN side of things as our DBA's deal with that part - I just know that we had some problems in the beginning where the DBA's weren't running the RMAN delete script (or weren't running it right?), so none of the RMAN backups were being marked for deletion - thus Tivoli was never expirating them. Could this possibly be an issue with your environment? Also, I decided to try using a select statement to see if I could view my RMAN data - and that DID work: select * from backups where node_name='C2F1N1EX_ORACLE' AND filespace_name='/adsmorc' So I have no idea why my ever-reliable SHOW VERSION command won't work? Oh well, at least I can still get what I need. Thanks; Theresa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/03 10:04AM Theresa, when I run the command I see info like this: /adsmorc : // al_00ee894v_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT) Active, Inserted 01/31/03 02:40:32 ObjId: 0.134453795 /adsmorc : // al_01ee894v_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT) Active, Inserted 01/31/03 02:40:32 ObjId: 0.134453794 /adsmorc : // al_03ee89nc_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT) Active, Inserted 01/31/03 02:50:22 ObjId: 0.134455581 /adsmorc : // al_04e7u4ci_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT) Active, Inserted 11/16/02 10:40:20 ObjId: 0.112626200 Does the insertion data jibe with reality? I mean, RMAN/TDPO are set up to only keep 7 days worth of incrs. So, following that logic, those object should not be there, correct? Isn't the tdposync utility supposed to get rid of the stragglers? When I run tdposync syncdb, it comes back with the message that The TSM Server is synchronized with the Oracle Catalog or there are no matching files in the requested filespace If these are stranded objects, how would I delete them from TSM, since RMANs catalog doesn't know about them? help! lisa Theresa Sarver tsarver.IFMC@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDPS.ORGcc: Sent by: Subject: SHOW commands and TSM 5162 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 02/20/2003 05:13 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Does anyone know - do the SHOW commands work with TSM Server 5162? I used them all the time to view my TDP for Oracle data under TSM415, but after upgrading the following is returned: tsm: C2TSMSERVshow version c2f1n11ex_oracle /adsmorc ANR0852E SHOW: No matching file spaces found for node C2F1N11EX_ORACLE. Anyone else running 5162 and able to use the SHOW VERSION command? Thanks; Theresa
Does this performance look ok?
Good afternoon all I'm running TSM 4.2.2.12 on a Solaris 7 Machine and am in the never ending search for ways to imrpove / check performance of our server as we are getting some massive (and I mean huge) variations in backup and restore times from machine to machine. Our Solaris box is a 1CPU 400Mhz with 1GB Ram. Database = 8500Mb (81% utilised) on a A1000 Storage Array (RAID5) Buffpoolcache is 64Mb Right now I'm running expiration on the database. Nothing else is running at all. I have printed the output of the vmstat command and was wondering if it looks acceptable. The output is as follows :- procs memory page disk faults cpu r b w swap free re mf pi po fr de sr m0 m1 m2 m1 in sy cs us sy id 1 0 0 1560 768 0 5 131 0 300 0 173 0 0 0 0 174 83 98 3 26 70 3 1 0 1702768 31416 0 1 432 0 400 0 68 0 0 0 0 625 711 625 8 81 11 1 1 0 1702768 31312 0 0 325 0 416 0 68 0 0 0 0 667 1634 602 24 68 8 1 0 0 1702768 31416 0 0 224 0 216 0 33 0 0 0 0 636 503 507 4 79 17 0 0 0 1702768 31448 0 0 154 0 165 0 43 0 0 0 0 565 460 433 3 88 10 1 1 0 1702808 31440 0 23 280 0 224 0 35 0 0 0 0 585 571 504 7 79 14 3 0 0 1702896 31376 0 0 253 0 280 0 43 0 0 0 0 601 431 422 1 84 15 0 0 0 1702896 31456 0 0 141 0 152 0 23 0 0 0 0 549 439 420 4 88 8 2 1 0 1702896 31424 0 0 184 0 213 0 32 0 0 0 0 600 438 422 3 83 14 2 0 0 1702896 31448 0 0 184 0 197 0 29 0 0 0 0 635 488 482 3 84 12 2 0 0 1702896 31424 0 0 210 0 218 0 44 0 0 0 0 624 468 447 3 77 19 3 0 0 1702896 31408 0 0 200 0 240 0 43 0 0 0 0 625 435 450 3 79 18 2 0 0 1702896 31232 0 0 376 0 384 0 56 0 0 0 0 645 464 459 4 76 19 1 0 0 1702896 31440 0 0 264 0 272 0 54 0 0 0 0 647 523 506 5 82 13 2 0 0 1702896 31448 0 0 173 0 162 0 27 0 0 0 0 567 519 498 5 84 11 1 0 0 1702896 31448 0 0 256 0 266 0 48 0 0 0 0 605 430 412 1 84 15 0 0 0 1702896 31440 0 0 162 0 162 0 23 0 0 0 0 520 379 385 1 84 15 The cache hit ratio is running at 98.14 at present. Many thanks Farren Minns - John Wiley Sons Ltd
Re: Tivoli pubs email address evaporated
And back to the original topic here -- would it kill someone to add an MX record for [EMAIL PROTECTED] that points to the new recipient? Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc My stupid common sense came into play when I first saw the email float through saying it was removed and I wondered the same thing. Oops, there I go off the deep end thinking again. Nice one Tom. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Backup Retention Question
We currently retain 180 Days of Version Exists, Deleted, Only and Extra Versions. Our question is if we have been backing up node A for 600days should we not still have a complete set of the first Full that is available to restore even though the file has not changed from the first backup? (IE one copy that is 600Days old?) Thanks!!
Re: Does this performance look ok?
I'm running TSM 4.2.2.12 on a Solaris 7 Machine and am in the never ending search for ways to imrpove / check performance of our server as we are getting some massive (and I mean huge) variations in backup and restore times from machine to machine. A frequently posted cause is the use of Ethernet Autonegotiation or conflicting hard specification of Ethernet characteristics in the host vs. the router/switch. Be sure to check that. See ADSM-L archives. Richard Sims, BU
Sharing a Library @ Off-Site DR
We will be going to Sungaurd soon restoring two TSM servers (one AIX one SUN) using one 3494-library. Wouldn't I just modify the device.config to look at the same library name for both servers? The issue I for see is that TSM Serve A has always know about library A but Server B is use to backing up to Lib B. When I configure Serv B to See and use Library A will there be a problem that the TSM DB for Serv B in its libvol table only knows about lib A and not Lib B? I hope that made sense. Regards, Charles
Re: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly
Richard -- I do a large Oracle/SAP database nightly, with this result: BR077I Database file for backup: /oracle/PRD/sapbackup/cntrlPRD.dbf BR061I 487 files found for backup, total size 746281.344 MB BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 260.748 GB/h (74.168 MB/sec). BKI1227I: Average compression factor was 1.00. BKI0020I: End of program at: Thu Feb 20 21:49:52 2003 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 02 h 47 min 47 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. My TSM server is an RS/6000 660-6M1 with 10 LTO tape drives in an IBM 3584 library. This backup does NOT go to disk, it goes directly to four tapes, over two gigabit ethernet interfaces. The database server is another 660-6M1, with three fiber-channel connections to an IBM ESS. Both systems are 4-way; the database server has 8 GB and the TSM server is a 6 GB system. The tape drives are SCSI, with two drives per cable; I see about 4.5 to 1 hardware compression on this backup. The gigabit ethernets are dedicated for backups (my 'backup1' and 'backup2' networks). The TSM database and disk pools are spread over two ESS arrays, with the database and recovery logs TSM mirrored between the two (yes, I'm paranoid; so?) During the backup the TSM server runs at 30 to 40% CPU usage; the SAP database server is at 70 to 90% (anyone got a clue why TDP/R3 would pound the CPU like this, when it's not doing compression? I am doing 6-way multiplexing, that may be a contributor). Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly I do 1TB+ backups nightly which run for about 8 hours. A large part of our backup is a 500GB Oracle database backup to TSM. The database backups up over a private 1Gb connection to a AIX P660-6h1 server with 2GB of RAM and 4 processors. The data then goes to nine 2disk stripe sets, over a 1Gb SAN connection (I went with stripe sets because RAID5 was just to slow). I'm getting high iowat times on my AIX TSM server. I'm having a hard time pinpointing exactly where the bottleneck is at. Currently it takes 51/2 hours to backup 500GB but I know it can be better. My question is are any of you that are moving this amount of data faster than me using a more powerful server like a IBM 690. THanks ***EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of th individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.996.3941.
Re: Backup Retention Question
If the file was backed up and if the file have not changed. The file will remain an active copy. The active copy does not expire. If you did a full backup 600+ days ago and the file have not changed. When you restore the file, it will be the original file when it was backed up 600+ days ago. It is when the file goes from an active version to an inactive version is when the timer starts for the 180 day retention. Hope this make sense. Sias Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On, Hart, Charles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We currently retain 180 Days of Version Exists, Deleted, Only and Extra Versions. Our question is if we have been backing up node A for 600days should we not still have a complete set of the first Full that is available to restore even though the file has not changed from the first backup? (IE one copy that is 600Days old?) Thanks!!
Re: Backup Retention Question
As long as the file exists on the client machine and you do not subsequently delete it or excude it from backup, TSM will retain the *latest* version forever, regardless of the VEREXISTS, VERDELETED, RETONLY, or RETEXTRA settings. So if you back up file A, TSM will keep that backup copy forever until you delete the file, change the file, or exclude the file from backup. I'm not sure I entirely understood your question, so if I've missed something, let me know. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Hart, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/2003 09:40 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Backup Retention Question We currently retain 180 Days of Version Exists, Deleted, Only and Extra Versions. Our question is if we have been backing up node A for 600days should we not still have a complete set of the first Full that is available to restore even though the file has not changed from the first backup? (IE one copy that is 600Days old?) Thanks!!
Re: Sharing a Library @ Off-Site DR
Charles, You will have to change the device configuration files on both of the server planfiles to point to the single library. Once you have restored the TSM DB's you will then need to delete the library and drive information from the TSM servers and redefine them as the new library and drives of the 3494. Hope this helps Regards, Michael Swinhoe Storage Management Group Zurich Financial Services E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hart, Charles charles.hart@MEDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RONIC.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Sharing a Library @ Off-Site DR Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDU 21/02/2003 16:46 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager We will be going to Sungaurd soon restoring two TSM servers (one AIX one SUN) using one 3494-library. Wouldn't I just modify the device.config to look at the same library name for both servers? The issue I for see is that TSM Serve A has always know about library A but Server B is use to backing up to Lib B. When I configure Serv B to See and use Library A will there be a problem that the TSM DB for Serv B in its libvol table only knows about lib A and not Lib B? I hope that made sense. Regards, Charles ___ The information contained in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or otherwise use it and do not disclose it to anyone else. Please notify the sender of the delivery error and then delete the message from your system. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author only. Communications will be monitored regularly to improve our service and for security and regulatory purposes. Thank you for your assistance. ___
Re: Does this performance look ok?
Hi Farren, I'm not familiar with the vmstat command and Solaris but this is what I have learned during the last years as a TSM consultant: - Use as much and as fast CPUs as possible for the TSM server. As every database-based application TSM is CPU-depending. I've seen very great performance differences between different TSM servers. At one time we upgraded a single CPU Windows TSM Box to a dual processor machine and the performance of the expiration process rose from 200 examined objects per second (EOPS) to more than 3.000 EOPS... Or the database backup process: I've seen systems backing up 30.000 pages per minute and other TSM servers accomplish over 60.000 pages (both using IBM LTO Ultrium drives). CPU power also affects the client performance because client and server have to search for eligible files to back up and the larger the number of files on a client or the higher the number of versions the longer does it take to back up the client. - Try to optimize your cache hit ratio at a level 99%. The new SELFTUNEBUFPOOLSIZE option is very helpful for this task... - Use raw partitions rather than ufs or vxfs filesystems for the db, recovery log and disk storage pool volumes (if possible). - Look at the network settings for the affected clients. E.g. auto-sensing is known to cause problems for certain network adapter/switch combinations or different settings for full-/halfduplex. Or try an ftp transfer from the client to the TSM server and vice versa to see if the network is the bottleneck (Once one of our customers complained about the backup performance but he had forgotten that the leasing contract of his DNS server had expired and the system had been removed. I was just wondering that TSM was backing up data at all...). - Look at the memory consumption on the clients and the server during the backup. Tuning the memory subsystem can solve many performance issues... I don't know what type of clients you back up, what kind of hardware they are running on or which type of data they have but performance tuning can be a very difficult task. And you have to look at each client individually. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Met vriendelijke groeten, With best regards, Bien amicalement, CU/2, Dirk Billerbeck Dirk Billerbeck CC CompuNet AG Co. oHG Enterprise Computing Solutions Am Jaegersberg 20, 24161 Altenholz (Kiel), Germany Phone: +49 (0) 431 / 3609 - 117, Fax: +49 (0) 431 / 3609 - 190, Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this mail in error, please tell us immediately by return email and delete the document.
Re: Sharing a Library @ Off-Site DR
Great! Thank You, for adding the additional step about re-defining, as I would have thought just editing the device config would do it but what you state makes sense. -Original Message- From: Michael Swinhoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sharing a Library @ Off-Site DR Charles, You will have to change the device configuration files on both of the server planfiles to point to the single library. Once you have restored the TSM DB's you will then need to delete the library and drive information from the TSM servers and redefine them as the new library and drives of the 3494. Hope this helps Regards, Michael Swinhoe Storage Management Group Zurich Financial Services E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hart, Charles charles.hart@MEDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RONIC.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Sharing a Library @ Off-Site DR Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDU 21/02/2003 16:46 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager We will be going to Sungaurd soon restoring two TSM servers (one AIX one SUN) using one 3494-library. Wouldn't I just modify the device.config to look at the same library name for both servers? The issue I for see is that TSM Serve A has always know about library A but Server B is use to backing up to Lib B. When I configure Serv B to See and use Library A will there be a problem that the TSM DB for Serv B in its libvol table only knows about lib A and not Lib B? I hope that made sense. Regards, Charles ___ The information contained in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or otherwise use it and do not disclose it to anyone else. Please notify the sender of the delivery error and then delete the message from your system. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author only. Communications will be monitored regularly to improve our service and for security and regulatory purposes. Thank you for your assistance. ___
Re: Backup Retention Question
Thank you for the response, that clears things up a bit. Guess I could / should have just opened the book... ;-) -Original Message- From: Sias Dealy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Backup Retention Question If the file was backed up and if the file have not changed. The file will remain an active copy. The active copy does not expire. If you did a full backup 600+ days ago and the file have not changed. When you restore the file, it will be the original file when it was backed up 600+ days ago. It is when the file goes from an active version to an inactive version is when the timer starts for the 180 day retention. Hope this make sense. Sias Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On, Hart, Charles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We currently retain 180 Days of Version Exists, Deleted, Only and Extra Versions. Our question is if we have been backing up node A for 600days should we not still have a complete set of the first Full that is available to restore even though the file has not changed from the first backup? (IE one copy that is 600Days old?) Thanks!!
q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ?
Hello, i tested a client backupresults by q backup command: the result ist, the files are saved with the default managementclass, thats all right. But the directories all show a diffrent managmentclass, which this client should never heard off. It is not in the dsm.opt/dsm.sys file. This managementclass saves data for 6 years. The corresponding stg-pool contains data from a lot of clients, but there should be only one. The default managementclass for all policydomains isnt this managmentclass. The server is 4.2.2.7, for now i only checked 2 clients 5.1.5 Linux(Debian), 4.1.2.12 NT 4.0 (This client hasnt touch for 1 year, the wrong managementclass exist only a few weeks) Whats gone wrong, is this a bug? Thanxs M.Kindermann Wuerzburg/Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte ldcheln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!
Re: AIX TSM better than OS390 TSM ?
This was just the sort of discussion I was looking for. Thank you for the replies. I inherited our current TSM system 4 years ago and feel that is the best product on the market. I have never run into a problem restoring/retrieving files for clients (that wasn't user related) in all that time. But alternatives using TSM are just the kind of thing I would like to present to management. I will now do some research on AIX to see what I can come up with. As I said though, our mainframe is the most reliable server in the house. So I am wondering if you ever have problems with the AIX server crashing etc.? Is it difficult to learn how to use? In the MVS world I can write scripts and macros to use as input files to assembler programs, in this way I have automated the whole TSM backup OFFSITE processes including reclaimation, expiration etc. The only TSM tasks the Data Center operators have to do is put ejected tapes in a box in the morning to go offsite each day. Is this something I would be able to do on a AIX system? Would you suggest a class or two of formal training? Out of all the platforms I have some knowledge of, I find NetWare the most puzzling, even though our NetWare Administrator would lay in front of a speeding train rather than switch to another platform. Does AIX have a complicated operating system? We have never had an AIX box here so my knowledge is less than nothing. I will do some research now, but any other feedback you have would be very welcome. Thanks again, Shannon
Re: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ?
If you do not explicitly specify a management class for directories they will go to the longest defined management class. Take care, Al Alan Davenport Senior Storage Administrator Selective Insurance Co. of America [EMAIL PROTECTED] (973) 948-1306 -Original Message- From: Michael Kindermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ? Hello, i tested a client backupresults by q backup command: the result ist, the files are saved with the default managementclass, thats all right. But the directories all show a diffrent managmentclass, which this client should never heard off. It is not in the dsm.opt/dsm.sys file. This managementclass saves data for 6 years. The corresponding stg-pool contains data from a lot of clients, but there should be only one. The default managementclass for all policydomains isnt this managmentclass. The server is 4.2.2.7, for now i only checked 2 clients 5.1.5 Linux(Debian), 4.1.2.12 NT 4.0 (This client hasnt touch for 1 year, the wrong managementclass exist only a few weeks) Whats gone wrong, is this a bug? Thanxs M.Kindermann Wuerzburg/Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte ldcheln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!
Re: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ?
If you don't specify a dirmc, tsm will associate the directory entries with the LONGEST retention management class available in the domain under which the node is registered... Dwight -Original Message- From: Michael Kindermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ? Hello, i tested a client backupresults by q backup command: the result ist, the files are saved with the default managementclass, thats all right. But the directories all show a diffrent managmentclass, which this client should never heard off. It is not in the dsm.opt/dsm.sys file. This managementclass saves data for 6 years. The corresponding stg-pool contains data from a lot of clients, but there should be only one. The default managementclass for all policydomains isnt this managmentclass. The server is 4.2.2.7, for now i only checked 2 clients 5.1.5 Linux(Debian), 4.1.2.12 NT 4.0 (This client hasnt touch for 1 year, the wrong managementclass exist only a few weeks) Whats gone wrong, is this a bug? Thanxs M.Kindermann Wuerzburg/Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte ldcheln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!
Re: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ?
Directories get bound to the mgmt class with the longest retention in that policy domain. You can bind the directories to a specific mgmt class with the DIRMC option. Be careful that it as at least the same retention policies as the files on your server. I am sure others on the list will give you some more specifics. Regards, Matt -Original Message- From: Michael Kindermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ? Hello, i tested a client backupresults by q backup command: the result ist, the files are saved with the default managementclass, thats all right. But the directories all show a diffrent managmentclass, which this client should never heard off. It is not in the dsm.opt/dsm.sys file. This managementclass saves data for 6 years. The corresponding stg-pool contains data from a lot of clients, but there should be only one. The default managementclass for all policydomains isnt this managmentclass. The server is 4.2.2.7, for now i only checked 2 clients 5.1.5 Linux(Debian), 4.1.2.12 NT 4.0 (This client hasnt touch for 1 year, the wrong managementclass exist only a few weeks) Whats gone wrong, is this a bug? Thanxs M.Kindermann Wuerzburg/Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte ldcheln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage! - This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. - If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
Re: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ? NO!
Specifically, directories are bound to the management class whose backup copygroup contains the highest RETONLY setting. In the event that more than one management class qualifies, the management class whose name is highest in collating sequence will be selected (note that we do not document this, so it is not guaranteed that this will always be the case). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Alan Davenport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/2003 10:57 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ? If you do not explicitly specify a management class for directories they will go to the longest defined management class. Take care, Al Alan Davenport Senior Storage Administrator Selective Insurance Co. of America [EMAIL PROTECTED] (973) 948-1306 -Original Message- From: Michael Kindermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: q backup shows wrong mgmtclass, BUG ? Hello, i tested a client backupresults by q backup command: the result ist, the files are saved with the default managementclass, thats all right. But the directories all show a diffrent managmentclass, which this client should never heard off. It is not in the dsm.opt/dsm.sys file. This managementclass saves data for 6 years. The corresponding stg-pool contains data from a lot of clients, but there should be only one. The default managementclass for all policydomains isnt this managmentclass. The server is 4.2.2.7, for now i only checked 2 clients 5.1.5 Linux(Debian), 4.1.2.12 NT 4.0 (This client hasnt touch for 1 year, the wrong managementclass exist only a few weeks) Whats gone wrong, is this a bug? Thanxs M.Kindermann Wuerzburg/Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte ldcheln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!
AW: Product Comparisons.
Or for the Legato part have a look at my excel sheet to be found at http://www.autovault.org/discus/index.html / Tivoli Storage Manager(tm) Scripts / Other / Compare TSM 5.1 with Legato 6. Hope this helps Kind regards Thomas Rupp Vorarlberger Illwerke AG -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Cahill, Ricky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Februar 2003 16:47 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Product Comparisons. I've been asked to write a document comparing Legato, Netbackup datacentre and TSM. Never having used Legato and Netbackup makes this a little difficult, has anyone already gone through this process recently and have any pointers to docs, reviews, comparisons etc? Thanks in advance. .Rikk Equitas Limited, 33 St Mary Axe, London EC3A 8LL, UK NOTICE: This message is intended only for use by the named addressee and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the message and any attachments accompanying it immediately. Equitas reserve the right to monitor and/or record emails, (including the contents thereof) sent and received via its network for any lawful business purpose to the extent permitted by applicable law Registered in England: Registered no. 3173352 Registered address above
Re: Order of daily administrative events
Backups Creation of copypool volumes from disk Creation of copypool volumes from primary tape DB backup Remove offsite tapes Migration from disk to cartridge Expiration Reclamation I like to clear my disk cache before backing up the DB, so that if I restore that DB, I don't have a problem with what is in the disk storage pools, as they certainly will not reflect what the DB thinks is in there. It may then be a situtation where the only copy of some of your data is in your copypool. -- Phillip Ford Senior Software Specialist Corporate Computer Center Schering-Plough Corp. (901) 320-4462 (901) 320-4856 FAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lawrence Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events Backups creation of copypool volumes Migration from disk to cartridge DB backup Expiration (which triggers reclamation) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/03 11:28AM I was just wondering what order that most TSM users have their daily processes running (IE: Migration, Expiration, Reclaim etc). It seems that those process times were set up wrong when our TSM server was first installed. Our process schedule looks this way right now. I know its way off base from what it should be. Any suggestions? I know I need to put EXPIRATION first. thanks, Tommy Templeton Senior System Administrator DFA-MMRS 601-359-3106 e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scheduled Start Actual Start Schedule Name Status - - 02/19/03 06:00:0002/19/03 06:00:16BACKUPSTG_D- CompletedBackup disk storagepool ISK 02/19/03 06:15:0002/19/03 06:15:17BACKUPSTG_T- Completed Backup tape storagepool 02/19/03 07:30:0002/19/03 07:30:18BACKUPSTG_O- Failed Backup tape offsitepool FFSITE 02/19/03 09:00:0002/19/03 09:00:19RESET_MIGR_- Completed Reset threshold for migrate to tape pool low LOW 02/19/03 11:00:0002/19/03 11:00:20RESET_RECLA- Completed Reset threshold for reclamation of offsitepool1 low IM_OFFSITE- _LOW 02/19/03 13:00:0002/19/03 13:03:50DBBACKUP_FULL CompletedTSM database backup 02/18/03 14:00:0002/18/03 14:00:11EXPIRE_INVE- Completed Expire inventory NTORY 02/19/03 14:00:0002/19/03 14:00:21RESET_MIGR_- Completed Reset threshold for migrate to tape pool high HIGH 02/19/03 14:00:0002/19/03 14:00:21RESET_RECLA- Completed Reset threshold for reclamation of tapepool low IM_LOW 02/19/03 17:00:0002/19/03 17:00:21DELETE_VOL_- CompletedDelete volume history file HIST 02/19/03 17:00:0002/19/03 17:00:21DEL_DBVOL_H- CompletedDelete database volume history IST 02/19/03 17:15:0002/19/03 17:15:21DEL_DBSNAP_- Completeddelete dbsnapshot volume history HIST 02/19/03 18:00:0002/19/03 18:00:22RESET_RECLA- CompletedReset threshold for reclamation of tapepool high IM_HIGH 02/19/03 18:30:0002/19/03 18:30:22RESET_RECL_- Completed Reset threshold for reclaim of copy pool high COPY_HIGH 02/19/03 19:00:0002/19/03 19:00:22RESET_RECLA- Completed Reset threshold for reclamation of offsitepool1high IM_OFFSITE- _HIGH * This message and any attachments is solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- Please immediately and permanently delete. Steve Roder, University at Buffalo HOD Service Coordinator VM Systems Programmer UNIX Systems Administrator (Solaris and AIX) TSM/ADSM Administrator ([EMAIL PROTECTED] | (716)645-3564)
TSM server move
Hi, Currently, I have TSM 4.1.4 running on AIX 4.3.3 using a STK tape library. Next month, I need to move TSM to another AIX server(Running 5L) and would like to upgrade TSM to 5.1.5 at the same time, using the existing STK tape library. Can anyone give me some pointers the best ways to accomplish this task. If I install TSM 5.1.5 on the new server, how can I get the new server to recognize the old tapes in the tape library, especially the database backup tape that I am going to use for the restore? Thanks
Re: Order of daily admini
Top of message -- 02-21-03 14:59 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Re: Order of daily admini I had the opportunity to have to restore a database a while back from a backup created after disk pool backup and before migration. After finishing, it appeared that the disk pool was in the same state as before the migration. Audit showed no inconsistencies and migrations kicked off and migrated the data that had already been migrated. Looks like migration doesn't really affect the data on the pool, just moves it to tape and updates the database. Sam Sheppard San Diego Data Processing Corp. (858)-581-9668 ---` Top of message -- 02-21-03 13:21 ..NETMAIL () Re: Order of daily admini Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:17:42 -0500 From: Steve Roder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _Top_of_Message_ Backups Creation of copypool volumes from disk Creation of copypool volumes from primary tape DB backup Remove offsite tapes Migration from disk to cartridge Expiration Reclamation I like to clear my disk cache before backing up the DB, so that if I restore that DB, I don't have a problem with what is in the disk storage pools, as they certainly will not reflect what the DB thinks is in there. It may then be a situtation where the only copy of some of your data is in your copypool. -- Phillip Ford Senior Software Specialist Corporate Computer Center Schering-Plough Corp. (901) 320-4462 (901) 320-4856 FAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lawrence Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events Backups creation of copypool volumes Migration from disk to cartridge DB backup Expiration (which triggers reclamation) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/03 11:28AM I was just wondering what order that most TSM users have their daily processes running (IE: Migration, Expiration, Reclaim etc). It seems that those process times were set up wrong when our TSM server was first installed. Our process schedule looks this way right now. I know its way off base from what it should be. Any suggestions? I know I need to put EXPIRATION first. thanks, Tommy Templeton Senior System Administrator DFA-MMRS 601-359-3106 e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scheduled Start Actual Start Schedule Name Status - - 02/19/03 06:00:0002/19/03 06:00:16BACKUPSTG_D- CompletedBackup disk storagepool ISK 02/19/03 06:15:0002/19/03 06:15:17BACKUPSTG_T- Completed Backup tape storagepool 02/19/03 07:30:0002/19/03 07:30:18BACKUPSTG_O- Failed Backup tape offsitepool FFSITE 02/19/03 09:00:0002/19/03 09:00:19RESET_MIGR_- Completed Reset threshold for migrate to tape pool low LOW 02/19/03 11:00:0002/19/03 11:00:20RESET_RECLA- Completed Reset threshold for reclamation of offsitepool1 low IM_OFFSITE- _LOW 02/19/03 13:00:0002/19/03 13:03:50DBBACKUP_FULL CompletedTSM database backup 02/18/03 14:00:0002/18/03 14:00:11EXPIRE_INVE- Completed Expire inventory NTORY 02/19/03 14:00:0002/19/03 14:00:21RESET_MIGR_- Completed Reset threshold for migrate to tape pool high HIGH 02/19/03 14:00:0002/19/03 14:00:21RESET_RECLA- Completed Reset threshold for reclamation of tapepool low IM_LOW 02/19/03 17:00:0002/19/03 17:00:21DELETE_VOL_- CompletedDelete volume history file HIST 02/19/03 17:00:0002/19/03 17:00:21DEL_DBVOL_H- CompletedDelete database volume history IST 02/19/03 17:15:0002/19/03 17:15:21DEL_DBSNAP_- Completeddelete dbsnapshot volume history HIST 02/19/03 18:00:0002/19/03 18:00:22RESET_RECLA- CompletedReset threshold for reclamation of tapepool high IM_HIGH 02/19/03 18:30:0002/19/03 18:30:22
Re: TSM on Linux
I have it running in a lab environment and I'm having big problems with the Adaptec SCSI driver. I can get the server to behave for as long as a few days but it always seems to hang up (both TSM and Linux) on the drivers. I've tried many different things, including compiling everything with 2.95.3 (instead of 2.96) and this helped out immensely but it's still flakey as heck. mitch Lloyd Dieter wrote: Etienne, Probably not. I tried this as well, and ultimately had to back down to RH 7.2 with a kernel upgrade to get things working. The TSMSCSI modules appear to be VERY fussy about loading into *exactly* the kernel specified. Once you meet the requirements, however, it seems to work pretty well, although it still complains about tainting the kernel when you insert the modules. Note that I only have this working in a lab environment...haven't tried it on anything production (yet). Regards, -Lloyd On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:54:12 +0100 GUILLAUMONT Etienne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I tried to install TSM 5.1.5 server on Linux but I have a problem because my level is 7.3 red hat with a 2.4.18.24 kernel and for the devices, TSM requires an older kernel. Is there any possibility to have TSM work on my linux level ? Etienne GUILLAUMONT e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB Technologie Parc d'Innovation, Bâtiment PYTHAGORE 11 Rue Jean SAPIDUS 67400 ILLKIRCH Tél : 03 90 40 60 60 Fax : 03 90 40 60 61 -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Registered Linux User 285528 Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:585-389-1260fax:585-389-1267 -
Re: AIX TSM better than OS390 TSM ?
On Saturday, Feb 22, 2003, at 04:55 Australia/Sydney, Shannon Bach wrote: snip reliable server in the house. So I am wondering if you ever have problems with the AIX server crashing etc.? snip Just from my experience, yes, like and complex piece of software, AIX can crash. I've crashed too many systems (all accidentally) to say otherwise. In all cases, IBM has either suggested an existing patch which has fixed the problem, or, in a few cases, have engineered a patch which has fixed the problem. (OK, one exception to that, we've had one rare problem that we couldn't reproduce, and couldn't provide IBM any hard debugging info to even start to look at). We have quite a few busy systems with uptimes over 500 days. Given that TSM only really stresses I/O, network, threading and VM, AIX should be rock solid on recent maintenance levels. Cheers, -- Paul Ripke Unix/OpenVMS/TSM/DBA 101 reasons why you can't find your Sysadmin: 68: It's 9AM. He/She is not working that late. -- Koos van den Hout
Re: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly
Tom, we are currently backing up approx 4.5 TB nightly. This is with 16 X 9840A/B STK Fibre channel drives, 2 X 9310 Silos', 2.5 TB of ESS disk storage pools, and a 4 way 6H1 AIX TSM server with 4GB of memory. There are 2XGigE interfaces and 6X10/100 Ethernet cards into our server farms. We feel we have maxed out our configuration now, and have aggressively been moving towards a production implementation of LAN-Free for some of our largest clients, such as Exchange 2000 (1.6TB daily), SAP/AIX (400GB daily), and some large Oracle SUN applications (500 GB daily). best regards, Kevin Mercer Sr. Enterprise Storage Network Manager RBC Royal Bank -Original Message- From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly Richard -- I do a large Oracle/SAP database nightly, with this result: BR077I Database file for backup: /oracle/PRD/sapbackup/cntrlPRD.dbf BR061I 487 files found for backup, total size 746281.344 MB BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 260.748 GB/h (74.168 MB/sec). BKI1227I: Average compression factor was 1.00. BKI0020I: End of program at: Thu Feb 20 21:49:52 2003 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 02 h 47 min 47 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. My TSM server is an RS/6000 660-6M1 with 10 LTO tape drives in an IBM 3584 library. This backup does NOT go to disk, it goes directly to four tapes, over two gigabit ethernet interfaces. The database server is another 660-6M1, with three fiber-channel connections to an IBM ESS. Both systems are 4-way; the database server has 8 GB and the TSM server is a 6 GB system. The tape drives are SCSI, with two drives per cable; I see about 4.5 to 1 hardware compression on this backup. The gigabit ethernets are dedicated for backups (my 'backup1' and 'backup2' networks). The TSM database and disk pools are spread over two ESS arrays, with the database and recovery logs TSM mirrored between the two (yes, I'm paranoid; so?) During the backup the TSM server runs at 30 to 40% CPU usage; the SAP database server is at 70 to 90% (anyone got a clue why TDP/R3 would pound the CPU like this, when it's not doing compression? I am doing 6-way multiplexing, that may be a contributor). Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly I do 1TB+ backups nightly which run for about 8 hours. A large part of our backup is a 500GB Oracle database backup to TSM. The database backups up over a private 1Gb connection to a AIX P660-6h1 server with 2GB of RAM and 4 processors. The data then goes to nine 2disk stripe sets, over a 1Gb SAN connection (I went with stripe sets because RAID5 was just to slow). I'm getting high iowat times on my AIX TSM server. I'm having a hard time pinpointing exactly where the bottleneck is at. Currently it takes 51/2 hours to backup 500GB but I know it can be better. My question is are any of you that are moving this amount of data faster than me using a more powerful server like a IBM 690. THanks ***EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of th individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.996.3941. This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. Ce courrier ilectronique est confidentiel et protigi. L'expiditeur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) disigni(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courrier ilectronique par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immidiatement, par retour de courrier ilectronique ou par un autre moyen.
